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[Tanya drumm]

Hi,

Could I please be removed from this list.

Thank you,
Tanya Drumm


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Re: [ozmidwifery] Uni SA B(Mid) problems

[Tanya drumm]

Hi Sue,
I live in Hobart and a UniSA external student - I'm still waiting to hear 
back from the Uni as to whether I can complete my clinical placement in 
Hobart (with my fingers crossed as going to SA for placement would be next 
to imposible for me twice a year).
Thanks
Tanya Drumm

From: "Callum & Kirsten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Uni SA B(Mid) problems
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 17:07:29 +0930
Hi Sue,
Those of us currently studying interstate got a fright when we heard about 
this letter! It seems it is a problem with the interstate hospitals not 
uniSA itself.
It will affect all new applicants, and shouldn't affect those of us already 
studying interstate.

Kirsten
Darwin
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Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 4:52 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Uni SA B(Mid) problems


Hi all,
Just thought I'd update those others of you who may have enrolled to do 
the external BMid course through Uni SA. I guess I'd been feeling that 
there was something uncertain around the course, and today I received a 
letter from the uni saying that in future, all clinical placements for 
this course have to happen in SA (whereas to date students have found 
placements wherever they've resided).
Reason cited was "due to pressure on clinical places from within those 
states" (any state apart from SA)... makes you laugh since only Vic and SA 
have BMid programs. I know the huge Base Hospital near me (1300 births 
p/a) only has 2 places for midwifery students which are allocated to the 
students from Sturt Uni at Wagga Wagga. Oh dear.
I'm yet to determine whether the clinical placements can be done in 
blocks, in which case one could fly to SA for a few weeks here and there 
as required .. just another hurdle on the pathway...

Any of you currently doing this course having problems now with your 
clinical placements?

Thanks, Sue
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Students, training and other things was Re: uterinerupture 1998

[Tanya drumm]

Hi Trish,
As a first year BMid student, I am absolutely inspired by your passion - 
please don't quit, we need you - you are inspirational!!!
Tanya

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Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Students, training and other things was Re: 
uterinerupture 1998
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 11:14:30 +0930

Trish
Don't ever quit, you are too valuable. Not only as a midwife, but as a role 
model too. There are alot of us passionate students out here ready and 
willing to fight bloody hard for midwifery and midwives, and we need you. 
It would be a sad day when midwifery starts loosing woman/midwives like 
yourself.

Kirsten
Darwin.
~~~start life with a midwife~~~
- Original Message - From: "Trish David" 
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Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Students, training and other things was Re: 
uterinerupture 1998


Abby, if I didn't think I was trying to impart a degree of wisdom, and
assist students to find their own wisdom, together with the women (heard
of the follow-through experience???) and the lovely midwives in
hospitals who assist them with onsite learning, and the VERY occassional
homebirth midwife who can take a student... then I would give it up.
With (diminishing) respect, evaluate a curriculum or two, enrol in a
midwifery program, and don't generalise what you see in a workshop of 10
midwives to what is taught in every curriculum in Australia.
Every curriculum I have evaluated has a focus on non-intervention for
'normal' childbearing and that includes programs from 4 states in
Australia, both postgraduate and undergraduate. I have participated in
curriculum development at undergraduate, grad dip and masters level
midwifery and used programs from NZ, Holland, Scandinavia and UK and
Canada for inspiration and international comparison. And I know many
colleagues in other universities who have done the same. In addition, we
now have Standards to which we are held that are based in international
benchmarks for midwifery education, and there are moves now to develop
more national benchmarks in what is offered in midwifery programs. Your
criticisms are hollow in the face of this real work. Your rhetoric is
empty of real examples.
My students learn active birth, pelvic mapping, physiological processes,
support for all of this and many have also been to 'workshops' with ten
midwives and say they learned little new that wasn't offered in their
program. hmmm. I encourage them to go, though, because they
sometimes bring something new back for me, too.
As to the third world, yes, I have seen the Birthrites video, too, it is
wonderful, but only a very small sample of what is out there and
certainly can't be generalised to the rest of the world. Through ICM/WHO
documents etc as well as direct communication with women and midwives
know that the problems in many countries cannot be fixed with a few
herbs, no matter how good their public health and nutrition. Have a look
at another fabulous video "Celebrations" about the role of midwives
across cultures and contexts. Women die because they don't have access
to a 'facility' that can offer them antibiotics, anaesthesia and
operative birth. They die of tetanus and pnuemonia, of septicaemia and
blood loss, of obstructed labour and AIDS. Planting crops and fixing
plumbing is one aspect of what is needed here, but good nutrition and
education take two-three generations to improve the health of a
population. In the meantime these individual women are just trying to
stay alive.
Women in these contexts want good drugs, skilled users of instruments
and operative procedures, immunisation and contraception, safe abortion,
nutritional supplements and freedom from patriarchal, economic,
religious and political oppression. They want TBAs with western as well
as traditional learning, they want access to western trained doctors and
midwives, nurses and dentists, etc. Midwifery cannot stand alone to
deliver, we need to put aside a moral highground and work with all
sectors of health and education, etc to achieve outcomes in thees
contexts.
Dare I say it, the same is true here. In many, many gov't reports women
in Australia want an integrated maternity service that uses the best
talents of all practitioners working together to offer choice (including
all the unpalatable ones like epidural, induction and LUSCS on demand,
all of which I would cringe at).
Yes, midwives are 'trained' differently now. Now we have to learn how to
be discerning consumers of research, to critique all forms of dogma, to
understand the physiology, not just rote-learn something, we must also
understand a rationale for actions and learn to be fully accountable for
them, we must commit to lifelong learning, to participate in quality
improvement of services, and to work in a multi-disciplinary environment
with a wide variety of women. We no longer have the excuse of t

Re: [ozmidwifery] introduction

[Tanya drumm]

Hi Jayne
Thanks for your welcome.  In answer to your question, we do need to attend 
the Uni, for intensive workshops (usually between 3 - 5 days) a couple of 
times a year (although I don't know exactly as we havn't been to one yet as 
the externals don't start midwifery based subjects until next year).
Tanya

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Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] introduction
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 15:30:46 +1000
Hi Tanya,
Welcome and good luck with your follow thrus.
re your external studying of the BMid at SA, are you required to attend the
uni at all or can you do the whole course externally?
Jayne
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From: "Tanya drumm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 10:08 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] introduction
> Hi everyone,
>
> I have been a member of this list for a few weeks and though I should
> introduce myself to you all.  My name is Tanya Drumm and I live in 
Hobart,
> Tas.  I am currently a 1st year external Bachelor of Midwifery student
with
> Uni of SA, married with 2 beautiful children and have just started my 
two
> follow thrus with a lovely lady who is in her early stages of pregnancy 
(I
> must say I am a little nervous about how I will be treated/accepted).
>
> I am a little worried about how I will be accepted when doing pracs and
> follow thrus in Hobart (as well as finding 30 ladies who want me to be
part
> of their journey) as I have heard from quite a few people that I am 
doing
> the wrong thing (by doing BMid instead of BNursing then Midwifery), but 
am
> prepared to fight my case if I need too.  I am really enjoying being a
part
> of this list and would gladly appreciate any advice any of you can 
offer.
>
> Thanks again for letting me be a part of this list.
> Tanya
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Re BMid SA

[Tanya drumm]

Hi Sue,  I am at Uni SA and started part time external BMid this year, but 
as Kirsten mentioned, the course will be available full time externally next 
year.  Hope this helps. Tanya


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Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Re BMid SA
Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2004 17:40:45 +0930
Re BMid SAYes the external can be full time 3 years or part time over up to 
6 years.

We have only been able to do part time this year, but the course is fully 
full time external as of next year!

Kirsten
(another unisa external student!)
Darwin.
~~~start life with a midwife~~~
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  From: Sue Cookson
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 5:33 PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Re BMid SA
  Hi Tania, Tanya and others,
  Just to clarify Tania, you're enrolled in the 3 year BMid internal 
program, and Tanya you're in the 6 year external Bmid at UniSA.
  Could either of you enlighten me about whether UniSA has a 3 year 
external program as well?

  Thanks,
  Sue
Hi Kim
I'm not sure how to email you off list so am replying here! I'm 
interested in doing my graduate year in NZ. Currently I'm studying the BMid 
at UniSA as one of the first 'direct entry' group. I'd have finished at the 
end of this year, but had a homebirth for baby no. 3 in July last year and 
will now finish end of 2005.

Thanks for link you provided - will take a look and see how I go. 
Could you let me know how to email you off list - just in case I have more 
questions?? Thanks.

Cheers
Tania

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Re: [ozmidwifery] introduction

[Tanya drumm]

Thanks Kirsten, Its great to be here, and thanks for the words of 
encouragement everyone, just what I needed (I know I am doing the right 
thing).  Tanya


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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2004 09:54:18 +0930
Hi Tanya,
Nice to see you on here!
Kirsten
~~~start life with a midwife~~~
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Sent: Friday, September 10, 2004 9:38 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] introduction

Hi everyone,
I have been a member of this list for a few weeks and though I should 
introduce myself to you all.  My name is Tanya Drumm and I live in Hobart, 
Tas.  I am currently a 1st year external Bachelor of Midwifery student 
with Uni of SA, married with 2 beautiful children and have just started my 
two follow thrus with a lovely lady who is in her early stages of 
pregnancy (I must say I am a little nervous about how I will be 
treated/accepted).

I am a little worried about how I will be accepted when doing pracs and 
follow thrus in Hobart (as well as finding 30 ladies who want me to be 
part of their journey) as I have heard from quite a few people that I am 
doing the wrong thing (by doing BMid instead of BNursing then Midwifery), 
but am prepared to fight my case if I need too.  I am really enjoying 
being a part of this list and would gladly appreciate any advice any of 
you can offer.

Thanks again for letting me be a part of this list.
Tanya
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[ozmidwifery] introduction

[Tanya drumm]

Hi everyone,
I have been a member of this list for a few weeks and though I should 
introduce myself to you all.  My name is Tanya Drumm and I live in Hobart, 
Tas.  I am currently a 1st year external Bachelor of Midwifery student with 
Uni of SA, married with 2 beautiful children and have just started my two 
follow thrus with a lovely lady who is in her early stages of pregnancy (I 
must say I am a little nervous about how I will be treated/accepted).

I am a little worried about how I will be accepted when doing pracs and 
follow thrus in Hobart (as well as finding 30 ladies who want me to be part 
of their journey) as I have heard from quite a few people that I am doing 
the wrong thing (by doing BMid instead of BNursing then Midwifery), but am 
prepared to fight my case if I need too.  I am really enjoying being a part 
of this list and would gladly appreciate any advice any of you can offer.

Thanks again for letting me be a part of this list.
Tanya
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