Re: [ozmidwifery] I need your help again.
Thanks Denise, I had my appt. with this client & found her to be in early labour at 35+2. She had her baby early the next morning. They gave her a shot of pethidine to try & stop contractions, she went to sleep. When she woke up she was ready to push. She had slept through labour. I didn't make it obviously. But baby girl is fine & so is mum. I will keep all the info though for next time something like this happens. Thanks all. Philippa ScottBirth Buddies - Original Message - From: Denise Hynd To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] I need your help again. Dear Philipa The information they have given your client even in lay terms is contradictory! AIMS http://www.aims.org.uk/ has a booklet "Ultrasound, unsound" The approach this women's "Carers" have taken is not consistent with principles of informed choice (check out ANdrea's article at http://www.acegraphics.com.au/articles/andrea10.html). No-one can do anything to any one else with out their permission, to do so is assault and to have this woman fearful and acting out of fear is coersion (like most women in this position) is again not appropriate. Also inducing women who are afraid usually results in failed induction more interventions to eventually C/S because adrenaline (the fear hormone) in the system turns the uterus off. If she does not understand what the need for induction is then she needs to ask more questions. If she does not like their answers then she needs to decide if she will submit to their inappropriate behaviours toward her or go get answers AND POSSIBLY CARE and respect from others?? I think we need to say to women that No -one can make any one do what they do not want, and submission is an act for which more women must take responsibilty or stop doing it! Denise Hynd "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have." Margaret Mead - Original Message - From: Philippa Scott To: ozmidwifery ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 6:39 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] I need your help again. Hi all, Sorry about the cross posting but I dont have a lot of time to gather info. I need it in less than 24 hrs actually. My client has been told that her placenta is aging & that they will induce her at 37wks, 38 at the most. They have told her that the baby is fine & growing well and that this may simply be how her body works but they are not taking chances with the babies life. It was only picked up on because she was diagnosed as a very mild gest. diabetic. Her last two babies she didn't have any antenatal care at all so she doesn't know what is normal for her except that she is more worried about things this time. But who can blame her. Oh she is also Group Strep B or was early in pg. Can anyone point me in the right direction for info as I dont have a lot of time to look it up & me pg brain is only working to half speed. I cant believe I only have 9 weeks to go. Cheers Philippa ScottBirth Buddies
Re: [ozmidwifery] I need your help again.
PS Induction is (or should be ) also contra indicated for some one who is Gp B strep Mind you 30% of the population carry Gp B with no problems but if it is there and the membranes are ruptured the baby is at risk. So more contradiction? Denise Hynd "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have." Margaret Mead - Original Message - From: Philippa Scott To: ozmidwifery ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 6:39 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] I need your help again. Hi all, Sorry about the cross posting but I dont have a lot of time to gather info. I need it in less than 24 hrs actually. My client has been told that her placenta is aging & that they will induce her at 37wks, 38 at the most. They have told her that the baby is fine & growing well and that this may simply be how her body works but they are not taking chances with the babies life. It was only picked up on because she was diagnosed as a very mild gest. diabetic. Her last two babies she didn't have any antenatal care at all so she doesn't know what is normal for her except that she is more worried about things this time. But who can blame her. Oh she is also Group Strep B or was early in pg. Can anyone point me in the right direction for info as I dont have a lot of time to look it up & me pg brain is only working to half speed. I cant believe I only have 9 weeks to go. Cheers Philippa ScottBirth Buddies
Re: [ozmidwifery] I need your help again.
Dear Philipa The information they have given your client even in lay terms is contradictory! AIMS http://www.aims.org.uk/ has a booklet "Ultrasound, unsound" The approach this women's "Carers" have taken is not consistent with principles of informed choice (check out ANdrea's article at http://www.acegraphics.com.au/articles/andrea10.html). No-one can do anything to any one else with out their permission, to do so is assault and to have this woman fearful and acting out of fear is coersion (like most women in this position) is again not appropriate. Also inducing women who are afraid usually results in failed induction more interventions to eventually C/S because adrenaline (the fear hormone) in the system turns the uterus off. If she does not understand what the need for induction is then she needs to ask more questions. If she does not like their answers then she needs to decide if she will submit to their inappropriate behaviours toward her or go get answers AND POSSIBLY CARE and respect from others?? I think we need to say to women that No -one can make any one do what they do not want, and submission is an act for which more women must take responsibilty or stop doing it! Denise Hynd "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have." Margaret Mead - Original Message - From: Philippa Scott To: ozmidwifery ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 6:39 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] I need your help again. Hi all, Sorry about the cross posting but I dont have a lot of time to gather info. I need it in less than 24 hrs actually. My client has been told that her placenta is aging & that they will induce her at 37wks, 38 at the most. They have told her that the baby is fine & growing well and that this may simply be how her body works but they are not taking chances with the babies life. It was only picked up on because she was diagnosed as a very mild gest. diabetic. Her last two babies she didn't have any antenatal care at all so she doesn't know what is normal for her except that she is more worried about things this time. But who can blame her. Oh she is also Group Strep B or was early in pg. Can anyone point me in the right direction for info as I dont have a lot of time to look it up & me pg brain is only working to half speed. I cant believe I only have 9 weeks to go. Cheers Philippa ScottBirth Buddies
[ozmidwifery] I need your help again.
Hi all, Sorry about the cross posting but I dont have a lot of time to gather info. I need it in less than 24 hrs actually. My client has been told that her placenta is aging & that they will induce her at 37wks, 38 at the most. They have told her that the baby is fine & growing well and that this may simply be how her body works but they are not taking chances with the babies life. It was only picked up on because she was diagnosed as a very mild gest. diabetic. Her last two babies she didn't have any antenatal care at all so she doesn't know what is normal for her except that she is more worried about things this time. But who can blame her. Oh she is also Group Strep B or was early in pg. Can anyone point me in the right direction for info as I dont have a lot of time to look it up & me pg brain is only working to half speed. I cant believe I only have 9 weeks to go. Cheers Philippa ScottBirth Buddies