Re: [ozmidwifery] I need your help again.

2004-09-19 Thread Philippa Scott



Thanks Denise,
I had my appt. with this client & found her to 
be in early labour at 35+2. She had her baby early the next morning.  They 
gave her a shot of pethidine to try & stop contractions, she went to sleep. 
When she woke up she was ready to push. She had slept through labour. I didn't 
make it obviously. But baby girl is fine & so is mum. I will keep all the 
info though for next time something like this happens. Thanks all.
Philippa ScottBirth Buddies

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Denise Hynd 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 10:52 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] I need your 
  help again.
  
  Dear Philipa
  The information they have given your client even 
  in lay terms is contradictory! AIMS http://www.aims.org.uk/ has a booklet 
  "Ultrasound, unsound"
  The approach this women's "Carers" have 
  taken is not consistent with principles of informed choice (check out ANdrea's 
  article at http://www.acegraphics.com.au/articles/andrea10.html).
   
  No-one can do anything to any one else with out 
  their permission,
  to do so is assault 
   
  and to have this woman  fearful and acting 
  out of fear is coersion (like most women in this position) is again not 
  appropriate.
   
  Also inducing women who are afraid  usually 
  results in failed induction more interventions to eventually C/S because 
  adrenaline (the fear hormone) in the system turns the uterus off.
   
  If she does not understand what the need for 
  induction is then she needs to ask more questions.
  If she does not like their answers then she needs 
  to decide if she will submit to their inappropriate behaviours toward her or 
  go get answers AND POSSIBLY CARE and respect from others??
   
  I think we need to say to women that No -one can 
  make any one do what they do not want, and  submission is an act for 
  which more women must take responsibilty or stop doing it!
  Denise Hynd
   
  "Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world.  
  For, indeed, they are the only ones who ever have."  Margaret 
  Mead
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Philippa Scott 
To: ozmidwifery ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

    Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 6:39 
PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] I need your help 
again.

Hi all,
Sorry about the cross posting but I dont have a 
lot of time to gather info. I need it in less than 24 hrs actually. My 
client has been told that her placenta is aging & that they will induce 
her at 37wks, 38 at the most. They have told her that the baby is fine & 
growing well and that this may simply be how her body works but they are not 
taking chances with the babies life. It was only picked up on because she 
was diagnosed as a very mild gest. diabetic. Her last two babies she didn't 
have any antenatal care at all so she doesn't know what is normal for her 
except that she is more worried about things this time. But who can blame 
her. Oh she is also Group Strep B or was early in pg. Can anyone point me in 
the right direction for info as I dont have a lot of time to look it up 
& me pg brain is only working to half speed. I cant believe I only have 
9 weeks to go.
Cheers
Philippa ScottBirth 
  Buddies


Re: [ozmidwifery] I need your help again.

2004-09-14 Thread Denise Hynd



PS Induction is (or should be ) also contra 
indicated for some one who is Gp B strep
Mind you 30% of the population carry Gp B with no 
problems but if it is there and the membranes are ruptured the baby is at 
risk.
So more contradiction?
Denise Hynd
 
"Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world.  For, 
indeed, they are the only ones who ever have."  Margaret Mead

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Philippa Scott 
  To: ozmidwifery ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 6:39 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] I need your help 
  again.
  
  Hi all,
  Sorry about the cross posting but I dont have a 
  lot of time to gather info. I need it in less than 24 hrs actually. My client 
  has been told that her placenta is aging & that they will induce her at 
  37wks, 38 at the most. They have told her that the baby is fine & growing 
  well and that this may simply be how her body works but they are not taking 
  chances with the babies life. It was only picked up on because she was 
  diagnosed as a very mild gest. diabetic. Her last two babies she didn't have 
  any antenatal care at all so she doesn't know what is normal for her except 
  that she is more worried about things this time. But who can blame her. Oh she 
  is also Group Strep B or was early in pg. Can anyone point me in the right 
  direction for info as I dont have a lot of time to look it up & me pg 
  brain is only working to half speed. I cant believe I only have 9 weeks to 
  go.
  Cheers
  Philippa ScottBirth 
Buddies


Re: [ozmidwifery] I need your help again.

2004-09-14 Thread Denise Hynd



Dear Philipa
The information they have given your client even in 
lay terms is contradictory! AIMS http://www.aims.org.uk/ has a booklet 
"Ultrasound, unsound"
The approach this women's "Carers" have 
taken is not consistent with principles of informed choice (check out ANdrea's 
article at http://www.acegraphics.com.au/articles/andrea10.html).
 
No-one can do anything to any one else with out 
their permission,
to do so is assault 
 
and to have this woman  fearful and acting out 
of fear is coersion (like most women in this position) is again not 
appropriate.
 
Also inducing women who are afraid  usually 
results in failed induction more interventions to eventually C/S because 
adrenaline (the fear hormone) in the system turns the uterus off.
 
If she does not understand what the need for 
induction is then she needs to ask more questions.
If she does not like their answers then she needs 
to decide if she will submit to their inappropriate behaviours toward her or go 
get answers AND POSSIBLY CARE and respect from others??
 
I think we need to say to women that No -one can 
make any one do what they do not want, and  submission is an act for 
which more women must take responsibilty or stop doing it!
Denise Hynd
 
"Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world.  For, 
indeed, they are the only ones who ever have."  Margaret Mead

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Philippa Scott 
  To: ozmidwifery ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 6:39 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] I need your help 
  again.
  
  Hi all,
  Sorry about the cross posting but I dont have a 
  lot of time to gather info. I need it in less than 24 hrs actually. My client 
  has been told that her placenta is aging & that they will induce her at 
  37wks, 38 at the most. They have told her that the baby is fine & growing 
  well and that this may simply be how her body works but they are not taking 
  chances with the babies life. It was only picked up on because she was 
  diagnosed as a very mild gest. diabetic. Her last two babies she didn't have 
  any antenatal care at all so she doesn't know what is normal for her except 
  that she is more worried about things this time. But who can blame her. Oh she 
  is also Group Strep B or was early in pg. Can anyone point me in the right 
  direction for info as I dont have a lot of time to look it up & me pg 
  brain is only working to half speed. I cant believe I only have 9 weeks to 
  go.
  Cheers
  Philippa ScottBirth 
Buddies


[ozmidwifery] I need your help again.

2004-09-14 Thread Philippa Scott



Hi all,
Sorry about the cross posting but I dont have a lot 
of time to gather info. I need it in less than 24 hrs actually. My client has 
been told that her placenta is aging & that they will induce her at 37wks, 
38 at the most. They have told her that the baby is fine & growing well and 
that this may simply be how her body works but they are not taking chances with 
the babies life. It was only picked up on because she was diagnosed as a very 
mild gest. diabetic. Her last two babies she didn't have any antenatal care at 
all so she doesn't know what is normal for her except that she is more worried 
about things this time. But who can blame her. Oh she is also Group Strep B or 
was early in pg. Can anyone point me in the right direction for info as I dont 
have a lot of time to look it up & me pg brain is only working to half 
speed. I cant believe I only have 9 weeks to go.
Cheers
Philippa ScottBirth 
Buddies