[ozmidwifery] LUDICROUS! Fw: Joyous Birth if this doesn't make you write a letter nothing will!
You have got to read thismy favourite part is where he says, "Home is the most dangerous place to have a baby. " My mind is running trying to figure out where to start with this bunch of BS!! Of course, it would be a male OB!!! When will they learn. - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 7:19 PM Subject: Joyous Birth if this doesn't make you write a letter nothing will! The EditorThe Weekly TimesP O Box 14999Melbourne 3001Tel: 9292 1584Fax: (03) 9292 2697Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Letters must be short and may be edited for space and legal reasons. Names andaddresses must be includedMIDWIFE-ONLY PLAN IS A BABY GAMBLEReplacing obstetricians with midwives will not fix the lack of birthing servicesin the country, argues, DR PIETER MOURIKDoes the Vic Govt really believe its plans to set up midwife-led maternity unitswill relieve the shortage of rural obstetricians?There is no question midwivesare recognised as skilled professionals who do a great job caring for women inlabour. However they are not trained to deal with complications beyond theirexperience or expertise. This is where an obstetrician is required to attend thelabour ward and take over the delivery.A normal delivery does not need an obstetrician in the labour ward, but mostwomen want to have the security that the most experienced person is making thedecisions and is immediately available. Seconds can make the difference betweena happy and successful outcome and a disaster.The silent majority of midwives continue to support the concept of teammidwifery with obstetricians.The vocal minority of midwives, who say they can do without obstetricians, andwho claim they are cheaper as they do not induce labour or perform instrumentaldeliveries or caesareans, are deluding themselves, the public and the Govt. theyare not comparing apples with apples. Midwives purposefully select heatlhy womenwith low risks and transfer those who do not deliver spontaneously to anobstetrician, so their statistics of successful outcomes are good.Women selected as low risk for a midwife delivery are not "no risk", as 30 percent develop problems during the pregnancy or in labour and have to betransferred to an obstetrician.No midwife can guarantee to a pregnant woman she can complete the job, while anobstetrician can always complete the delivery and deal with complications thatmay occur. That is the difference. The 0.2 per cent of women in Vic who chooseto deliver at home take increased risks to themselves and their babies andshould be informed of that fact by the midwife caring for them.Home is the most dangerous place to have a baby. The best compromise is todeliver in a birthing unit at a hospital. Patients can have the best of bothworlds where midwives work in collaboration with obstetricians, not incompetition.Unfortunately, the vocal minority of independent midwives seem to have positionsof influence and have convinced the Govt their wishes are what the majority ofmidwives and women want, when this is not true. These midwives should do whattwo of our local midwives have done: apply to medical school, complete six yearsof training then complete another six years to be a qualified obstetrician.They would be most welcome, particularly in rural centres, to help reverse thedecline in the number of doctors willing to deliver babies.*PETER MOURIK HAS BEEN A CONSULTANT OBSTETRICIAN IN WODONGA FOR 25 YEARS AND ISCHAIRMAN OF THE WODONGA OBSTETRIC SUB-COMMITTEE.Every woman and every baby and every family have the right to Joyous Birth! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/joyousbirth/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [ozmidwifery] LUDICROUS! Fw: Joyous Birth if this doesn't make you write a letter nothing will!
I am not clear where this was sourced from - can you help me out? At 08:45 PM 22/09/2004, you wrote: You have got to read thismy favourite part is where he says, Home is the most dangerous place to have a baby. My mind is running trying to figure out where to start with this bunch of BS!! Of course, it would be a male OB!!! When will they learn. - Original Message - From: Janet Fraser To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 7:19 PM Subject: Joyous Birth if this doesn't make you write a letter nothing will! The Editor The Weekly Times P O Box 14999 Melbourne 3001 Tel: 9292 1584 Fax: (03) 9292 2697 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Letters must be short and may be edited for space and legal reasons. Names and addresses must be included MIDWIFE-ONLY PLAN IS A BABY GAMBLE Replacing obstetricians with midwives will not fix the lack of birthing services in the country, argues, DR PIETER MOURIK Does the Vic Govt really believe its plans to set up midwife-led maternity units will relieve the shortage of rural obstetricians?There is no question midwives are recognised as skilled professionals who do a great job caring for women in labour. However they are not trained to deal with complications beyond their experience or expertise. This is where an obstetrician is required to attend the labour ward and take over the delivery. A normal delivery does not need an obstetrician in the labour ward, but most women want to have the security that the most experienced person is making the decisions and is immediately available. Seconds can make the difference between a happy and successful outcome and a disaster. The silent majority of midwives continue to support the concept of team midwifery with obstetricians. The vocal minority of midwives, who say they can do without obstetricians, and who claim they are cheaper as they do not induce labour or perform instrumental deliveries or caesareans, are deluding themselves, the public and the Govt. they are not comparing apples with apples. Midwives purposefully select heatlhy women with low risks and transfer those who do not deliver spontaneously to an obstetrician, so their statistics of successful outcomes are good. Women selected as low risk for a midwife delivery are not no risk, as 30 per cent develop problems during the pregnancy or in labour and have to be transferred to an obstetrician. No midwife can guarantee to a pregnant woman she can complete the job, while an obstetrician can always complete the delivery and deal with complications that may occur. That is the difference. The 0.2 per cent of women in Vic who choose to deliver at home take increased risks to themselves and their babies and should be informed of that fact by the midwife caring for them. Home is the most dangerous place to have a baby. The best compromise is to deliver in a birthing unit at a hospital. Patients can have the best of both worlds where midwives work in collaboration with obstetricians, not in competition. Unfortunately, the vocal minority of independent midwives seem to have positions of influence and have convinced the Govt their wishes are what the majority of midwives and women want, when this is not true. These midwives should do what two of our local midwives have done: apply to medical school, complete six years of training then complete another six years to be a qualified obstetrician. They would be most welcome, particularly in rural centres, to help reverse the decline in the number of doctors willing to deliver babies. *PETER MOURIK HAS BEEN A CONSULTANT OBSTETRICIAN IN WODONGA FOR 25 YEARS AND IS CHAIRMAN OF THE WODONGA OBSTETRIC SUB-COMMITTEE. Every woman and every baby and every family have the right to Joyous Birth! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/joyousbirth/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
Re: [ozmidwifery] LUDICROUS! Fw: Joyous Birth if this doesn't make you write a letter nothing will!
I am not clear where this was sourced from - can you help me out? The letter was published in The Weekly Times in Melbourne. I recieved the email on the Joyous Birth list and forwarded it on. Is that the info you wanted? Love Abby
Re: [ozmidwifery] LUDICROUS! Fw: Joyous Birth if this doesn't make you write a letter nothing will!
Yes thank you - that is perfect. Take care Alphia At 09:54 AM 23/09/2004, you wrote: I am not clear where this was sourced from - can you help me out? The letter was published in The Weekly Times in Melbourne. I recieved the email on the Joyous Birth list and forwarded it on. Is that the info you wanted? Love Abby Alphia Possamai-Inesedy Ba (Hons.) PhD. Candidate School of Applied and Human Sciences Bankstown Campus, University of Western Sydney UWS Locked Bag 1797 South Penrith Distribution Centre NSW 1797 Australia Phone: 02 97726628 Fax: 02 97726584
