Re:[ozmidwifery] language
I thought the term actually derived from the 18th century when "doctors" started to take over the delivery of babies and for their convenience the mother was "confined" to bed for the duration of her labour. I read this in a book of "medical myths" which was actually about the false belief by doctors of this era that "childbed fever" was transmitted by "bad humours" as opposed to their bad hygiene. Interestingly women of that era also used to beg to be delivered by midwives as the mortality rate with a midwife was significantly lower than that with the doctors!! DebbySend and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] Language
not sure about the first time, but it probably came from the south east asian custom of the 40 days of confinement of the mother... or the 'mother roasting' custom. Jo Babies are Born... Pizzas are Delivered.
[ozmidwifery] Language
Does anyone know the first tiem the term confinement was used to describe childbirth? Thanks Sally
Re: [ozmidwifery] language
Hi Sue Your program is truly positive, it is unfortunately quite unique. I wish it was otherwise. There are some really dedicated people here in Adelaide plugging away at the 'system'. We live in hope of enlightening others about vbac and caesarean issues. We have one private hospital here who offer a vbac education class, but the demand is so low that she does it on a one on one basis now. Motivation and encouragement is an ongoing need, I agree. But is gets me fired up when I hear this type of thing (veronica's incident), as women are very influenced by passing comments made by midwives and obstetricians, and will often take them at face value. Thank you for all the wonderful work you do, it is fantastic. Carolyn Sue Crosby wrote: > Carolyn, > On a more positive note, I was at work today and asked by one of my > midwife colleagues could I please talk to two of our women who had had > caesarean births about out vbac program. > On introducing myself and the information I had for one of the women > before I had even mentioned our vbac program she said a friend of hers > had already spoken to her about vbac's and told her about our program. > Our unit is a small unit in rural Victoria. > Please keep up with your motivation because it does start to diffuse. > Take care everyone, > Regards, > Sue Crosby, > Midwife > > >> From: Carolyn Donaghey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: [ozmidwifery] language >> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 11:15:09 +0930 >> >>> The other day at handover I said a woman had had a "VBAC" instead of >>> "Trial of scar". And 3 of the 4 midwives said "What do you mean?, >>> what is that?" and I tried to explain that trial of scar was >>> disempowering to women and that it was setting them up for failure. >>> The 4th midwife who knew what it meant said "It's one of those new >>> words they learn out at Uni"and they basically laughed at me. >> >> >> >> Go Veronica! What is really scary is that VBAC women would be cared >> for by these dinosaurs who probably still think that once a caesarean >> always a caesarean is the 'safest way'. We are actually constantly >> amazed that a term such a vbac which was coined in the early 70's >> should be unknown by midwives. >> Carolyn > > > > > > _ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] language
Sue Crosby, I know that I have spoken to you before, but I was just wondering if you could contact me personally to discuss your vbac program. cheers Jo Bainbridge founding member CARES SA email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: 08 8388 6918 birth with trust, faith & love... - Original Message - From: "Sue Crosby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 8:43 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] language > Carolyn, > On a more positive note, I was at work today and asked by one of my midwife > colleagues could I please talk to two of our women who had had caesarean > births about out vbac program. > On introducing myself and the information I had for one of the women before > I had even mentioned our vbac program she said a friend of hers had already > spoken to her about vbac's and told her about our program. > Our unit is a small unit in rural Victoria. > Please keep up with your motivation because it does start to diffuse. > Take care everyone, > Regards, > Sue Crosby, > Midwife > > > >From: Carolyn Donaghey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: [ozmidwifery] language > >Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 11:15:09 +0930 > > > >>The other day at handover I said a woman had had a "VBAC" instead of > >>"Trial of scar". And 3 of the 4 midwives said "What do you mean?, what is > >>that?" and I tried to explain that trial of scar was disempowering to > >>women and that it was setting them up for failure. The 4th midwife who > >>knew what it meant said "It's one of those new words they learn out at > >>Uni"and they basically laughed at me. > > > > > >Go Veronica! What is really scary is that VBAC women would be cared for by > >these dinosaurs who probably still think that once a caesarean always a > >caesarean is the 'safest way'. We are actually constantly amazed that a > >term such a vbac which was coined in the early 70's should be unknown by > >midwives. > >Carolyn > > > > > _ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > -- > This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. > Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. > -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.
