Re: [ozmidwifery] existing midwifery services

2002-09-02 Thread Jan Robinson 
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] existing midwifery services



On 29/8/02 7:04 PM, "Marian Bullard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Just like to stimulate some discussion regarding the recent press around smaller birthing services in Sydney and surrounds.
Is there any support for women currently choosing these services for birth, or do we think these services are not worth hanging on to.  There seem to be an abundance of ideas for new models of care for midwifery services and I believe we need these plans for the future of birthing women but at the moment feel we are throwing out our old shoes before we have the money to buy the new. What do other midwives feel. Cheers Marian


Dear Marian
We must hang on to the smaller birthing services and we must insist of midwifery-led care. 
No woman wants to be taken away from her major social support systems to give birth.
Unfortunately for the few women who develop major problems during pregnancy this may be the case, but most women should be able to give birth in or near their home with midwives who they know and trust.

Both ASIM, HAS and the Maternity Coalition have tried to make this point with the NSW Minister for Health to no avail. He refuses to have meetings about setting up more units with midwives as primary carers. 
So today a briefing of the cross-bench in NSW State Parliament begins.
Denise and Sally Tracey will be presenting information re the desire to keep smaller birthing services operational and to spread community midwifery across the state. The cross benchers will then be able to put more pressure on the Minister.

I’m sure Denise will have something to say about the cross-briefing on ozmidwifery tonight.

Yours in better birthing practices
Jan Robinson


__
 Jan Robinson  Phone/fax: 011+ 61+ 2+ 9546 4350
 Independent Midwife Practitioner      e-mail: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 8 Robin Crescent       www:   midwiferyeducation.com.au
 South Hurstville  NSW  2221      National Coordinator, ASIM
__

Re: [ozmidwifery] existing midwifery services

2002-09-01 Thread Denise Hynd 
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] existing midwifery services



Marion
Was that a meeting on a Tuesday night??If so I 
would appreciate a chat off line
Denise Hynd
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Marian 
  Bullard 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 6:17 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] existing 
  midwifery services
  
   
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Maurice Bullard 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 6:11 
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] existing 
midwifery services

Dear Justine 
thank you for your response, I certainly agree regarding 
the blisters. I am so disappointed at what appears to be a lack of 
support for each other.  I recently attended a large meeting with 
many midwives(who make up the large percentage of midwives with vast 
interest in the current models of midwifery care) attending and it was very 
clear there was no support for anything other than protecting your own 
patch.  Thank you so much to Denise and Jan for their wonderful 
speeches and their courage to support women and fellow 
midwives.
I agree its worth hanging in there and I suppose it was 
just a moment of absolute frustration with battling the current system that 
seems to thwart every attempt at midwifery care centred on women, not 
instutions. 
Cheers Marian

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Justine Caines 
  To: OzMid List 
  Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:01 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] existing 
  midwifery services
  
  Just like to stimulate some 
discussion regarding the recent press around smaller birthing services 
in Sydney and surrounds.Is there any support for women currently 
choosing these services for birth, or do we think these services are not 
worth hanging on to.  There seem to be an abundance of ideas for 
new models of care for midwifery services and I believe we need these 
plans for the future of birthing women but at the moment feel we are 
throwing out our old shoes before we have the money to buy the new. What 
do other midwives feel. Cheers MarianHi Marian and AllI am unsure exactly what you 
mean.  Are you referring to the appalling moves in NSW to 
centralise regional services, or the National Maternity Action Plan ( a 
model to increase midwife-led care)?  In relation to throwing out 
the old shoes it is true that many midwives will be 
uncomfortable/unwilling to work in a caseload capacity in an autonomous 
way.  There are many (including our IPM’s) that would love to. 
 The time is absolutely ripe (with the professional indemnity 
‘crisis’) to demonstrate VERY clearly to politicians and policy makers 
that midwives are legitimate carers for women and can adequately care 
for normal, healthy pregnant women through the entire episode. 
 Their care is proven to be more appropriate and cost effective and 
the relationship a woman forms with a known midwife has such far 
reaching benefits for her and her family.Combine the 
international research, practice with 30 parliamentary inquiries since 
1985 across the country with the majority recommending an increase in 
midwife –led care.  BINGO!If the system was to support 
appropriate midwife care we would see 80% of normal births, rather than 
the 20 or so % we see now.  Over time a great many more women would 
see birth as a normal and beautiful life event, rather than a terrifying 
experience that they need to be anaesthetised from.  Our 
Tresillian, etc services would not be full and mothering would be 
greater valued, because women would demand it!The old shoes 
don’t fit!!!  The new one’s may give some people blisters, but hey 
once we walk them in they be the best pair ever!!Justine 
CainesMaternity Coalition ACT Branch

Re: [ozmidwifery] existing midwifery services

2002-08-31 Thread Marian Bullard 
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] existing midwifery services



 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Maurice Bullard 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 6:11 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] existing 
  midwifery services
  
  Dear Justine 
  thank you for your response, I certainly agree regarding the 
  blisters. I am so disappointed at what appears to be a lack of 
  support for each other.  I recently attended a large meeting with 
  many midwives(who make up the large percentage of midwives with vast interest 
  in the current models of midwifery care) attending and it was very clear there 
  was no support for anything other than protecting your own patch.  Thank 
  you so much to Denise and Jan for their wonderful speeches and their courage 
  to support women and fellow midwives.
  I agree its worth hanging in there and I suppose it was just 
  a moment of absolute frustration with battling the current system that seems 
  to thwart every attempt at midwifery care centred on women, not instutions. 
  
  Cheers Marian
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Justine Caines 
To: OzMid List 
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:01 
PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] existing 
midwifery services

Just like to stimulate some 
  discussion regarding the recent press around smaller birthing services in 
  Sydney and surrounds.Is there any support for women currently choosing 
  these services for birth, or do we think these services are not worth 
  hanging on to.  There seem to be an abundance of ideas for new models 
  of care for midwifery services and I believe we need these plans for the 
  future of birthing women but at the moment feel we are throwing out our 
  old shoes before we have the money to buy the new. What do other midwives 
  feel. Cheers MarianHi Marian and 
  AllI am unsure exactly what you mean.  Are you referring to 
  the appalling moves in NSW to centralise regional services, or the 
  National Maternity Action Plan ( a model to increase midwife-led care)? 
   In relation to throwing out the old shoes it is true that many 
  midwives will be uncomfortable/unwilling to work in a caseload capacity in 
  an autonomous way.  There are many (including our IPM’s) that would 
  love to.  The time is absolutely ripe (with the professional 
  indemnity ‘crisis’) to demonstrate VERY clearly to politicians and policy 
  makers that midwives are legitimate carers for women and can adequately 
  care for normal, healthy pregnant women through the entire episode. 
   Their care is proven to be more appropriate and cost effective and 
  the relationship a woman forms with a known midwife has such far reaching 
  benefits for her and her family.Combine the international 
  research, practice with 30 parliamentary inquiries since 1985 across the 
  country with the majority recommending an increase in midwife –led care. 
   BINGO!If the system was to support appropriate midwife care 
  we would see 80% of normal births, rather than the 20 or so % we see now. 
   Over time a great many more women would see birth as a normal and 
  beautiful life event, rather than a terrifying experience that they need 
  to be anaesthetised from.  Our Tresillian, etc services would not be 
  full and mothering would be greater valued, because women would demand 
  it!The old shoes don’t fit!!!  The new one’s may give some 
  people blisters, but hey once we walk them in they be the best pair 
  ever!!Justine CainesMaternity Coalition ACT 
  Branch

Re: [ozmidwifery] existing midwifery services

2002-08-29 Thread Aviva Sheb'a 

Re: [ozmidwifery] existing midwifery servicesSPOT ON!
aviva
- Original Message -
From: Justine Caines
To: OzMid List
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] existing midwifery that midwives are legitimate
carers for women and can adequately care for normal, healthy pregnant women
through the entire episode. benefits for her and her family.

BINGO!

and mothering would be greater valued, because women would demand it!

The old shoes don't fit!!!
Justine Caines

Maternity Coalition ACT Branch

--
This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics.
Visit  to subscribe or unsubscribe.

Re: [ozmidwifery] existing midwifery services

2002-08-29 Thread Justine Caines 
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] existing midwifery services



Just like to stimulate some discussion regarding the recent press around smaller birthing services in Sydney and surrounds.
Is there any support for women currently choosing these services for birth, or do we think these services are not worth hanging on to.  There seem to be an abundance of ideas for new models of care for midwifery services and I believe we need these plans for the future of birthing women but at the moment feel we are throwing out our old shoes before we have the money to buy the new. What do other midwives feel. Cheers Marian

Hi Marian and All

I am unsure exactly what you mean.  Are you referring to the appalling moves in NSW to centralise regional services, or the National Maternity Action Plan ( a model to increase midwife-led care)?  In relation to throwing out the old shoes it is true that many midwives will be uncomfortable/unwilling to work in a caseload capacity in an autonomous way.  There are many (including our IPM’s) that would love to.  The time is absolutely ripe (with the professional indemnity ‘crisis’) to demonstrate VERY clearly to politicians and policy makers that midwives are legitimate carers for women and can adequately care for normal, healthy pregnant women through the entire episode.  Their care is proven to be more appropriate and cost effective and the relationship a woman forms with a known midwife has such far reaching benefits for her and her family.

Combine the international research, practice with 30 parliamentary inquiries since 1985 across the country with the majority recommending an increase in midwife –led care.  BINGO!

If the system was to support appropriate midwife care we would see 80% of normal births, rather than the 20 or so % we see now.  Over time a great many more women would see birth as a normal and beautiful life event, rather than a terrifying experience that they need to be anaesthetised from.  Our Tresillian, etc services would not be full and mothering would be greater valued, because women would demand it!

The old shoes don’t fit!!!  The new one’s may give some people blisters, but hey once we walk them in they be the best pair ever!!

Justine Caines

Maternity Coalition ACT Branch

[ozmidwifery] existing midwifery services

2002-08-29 Thread Marian Bullard 



Just like to stimulate some discussion regarding the recent 
press around smaller birthing services in Sydney and surrounds.
Is there any support for women currently choosing these 
services for birth, or do we think these services are not worth hanging on 
to.  There seem to be an abundance of ideas for new models of care for 
midwifery services and I believe we need these plans for the future of birthing 
women but at the moment feel we are throwing out our old shoes before we have 
the money to buy the new. What do other midwives feel. Cheers 
Marian