Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening I don't know much about this and also tend to kill plants!! But one of my colleagues takes home unwanted placentae for her roses - I will ask her what she does to them, apparently her garden is lovely Sue "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"Edmund Burke - Original Message - From: Justine Caines To: OzMid List Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening Dear AllI can vouch for the following plantsCamellia in a pot (very happy) 1st babe 6.5 years agoGrevillea (grew like bloody wildfire) nearly 5 years oldDavid Austin old world Rose Only a bit sad due to drought and a forgotten area of the yard - um ma! (3 years old)Now what to plant for the twins? Yes HUGE placenta. I have a huge garden but virtually no space. I am thinking of something with a double flower (yes I like matching and all that cutesy meaning stuff!!), suggestions??I planted the plant and placenta at the same time but the Camellia was originally in the ground. I gave the placenta a fair bit of space below the root ball of the plant.I am a keen gardener (yet dont know too much) and I would think as a rule anything that likes blood and bone should do fine. A native (like a Grevillea) should be an exception. I think Marys advice re staged planting is very sound.Perhaps ask what plants like rich soil and blood and bone type additions.Justine6 HB babes all with/to have planted placentas (and I said placenta planting was hippy when first introduced to HB rituals, Ah how we eat our words!) No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.12/266 - Release Date: 21/02/2006
Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening
Vicky, I am in the same boat - mine is still in the freezer from almost 9 months ago! I also had a home water birth, 29 min pushing, 7 hours total labour, physiological third stage... I am also a primip Midwife ;) Jo On 20/02/2006, at 4:19 PM, Vicky Gotte wrote: Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice about planting my placenta- it has been in the freezer for 5 months and I really need to do something with it!). I want to put it in a pot plant as I'd want to take the plant if we move. What plants would you recommend (please note I have killed mint!)and should I put it in a big plant pot or a small one. Do I need to do anything with the potting mix, or is a placenta and premium mix enough to make sure the plant thrives?. I know it's not really a mid question but I really want a 'special' plant for my daughter, and I didn't think the local nursery could give much advice. By the way, I had a beautiful water birth (with hardly any pushing), after a 2 1/2 hour first stage, and completed with a physiological third stage. (Not bad for a primip midwife!). Thanks a lot, Vicky Do you Yahoo!? Find a local business fast with Yahoo! Local Search http://au.local.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening
Why dont you go to a good nursery and ask them what plants would thrive in a pot with a placenta. Maybe you need a pair of pots ( and half in each as it might be too much for one and would also increase your chances of having one survive Andrea Q On 20/02/2006, at 7:46 PM, Jo Watson wrote: Vicky, I am in the same boat - mine is still in the freezer from almost 9 months ago! I also had a home water birth, 29 min pushing, 7 hours total labour, physiological third stage... I am also a primip Midwife ;) Jo On 20/02/2006, at 4:19 PM, Vicky Gotte wrote: Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice about planting my placenta- it has been in the freezer for 5 months and I really need to do something with it!). I want to put it in a pot plant as I'd want to take the plant if we move. What plants would you recommend (please note I have killed mint!)and should I put it in a big plant pot or a small one. Do I need to do anything with the potting mix, or is a placenta and premium mix enough to make sure the plant thrives?. I know it's not really a mid question but I really want a 'special' plant for my daughter, and I didn't think the local nursery could give much advice. By the way, I had a beautiful water birth (with hardly any pushing), after a 2 1/2 hour first stage, and completed with a physiological third stage. (Not bad for a primip midwife!). Thanks a lot, Vicky Do you Yahoo!? Find a local business fast with Yahoo! Local Search http://au.local.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening
My experience is that it needs to be planted about a month before the plant is put on top of it. It needs to break down before tender roots are put on it. It would be awful to have the plant die. MM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrea Quanchi Sent: Monday, 20 February 2006 5:00 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening Why dont you go to a good nursery and ask them what plants would thrive in a pot with a placenta. Maybe you need a pair of pots ( and half in each as it might be too much for one and would also increase your chances of having one survive Andrea Q On 20/02/2006, at 7:46 PM, Jo Watson wrote: Vicky, I am in the same boat - mine is still in the freezer from almost 9 months ago! I also had a home water birth, 29 min pushing, 7 hours total labour, physiological third stage... I am also a primip Midwife ;) Jo On 20/02/2006, at 4:19 PM, Vicky Gotte wrote: Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice about planting my placenta- it has been in the freezer for 5 months and I really need to do something with it!). I want to put it in a pot plant as I'd want to take the plant if we move. What plants would you recommend (please note I have killed mint!)and should I put it in a big plant pot or a small one. Do I need to do anything with the potting mix, or is a placenta and premium mix enough to make sure the plant thrives?. I know it's not really a mid question but I really want a 'special' plant for my daughter, and I didn't think the local nursery could give much advice. By the way, I had a beautiful water birth (with hardly any pushing), after a 2 1/2 hour first stage, and completed with a physiological third stage. (Not bad for a primip midwife!). Thanks a lot, Vicky Do you Yahoo!? Find a local business fast with Yahoo! Local Search http://au.local.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening
That makes sense. I am sure to kill anything that I plant though except the succulents my MIL planted for me. I need something very hardy! I actually wanted to plant the placenta with our dog Abby who died 2 weeks after Will was born, but we forgot and Matt refused to dig her up again! ;) I'm following this thread with interest :) Jo On 20/02/2006, at 5:04 PM, Mary Murphy wrote: My experience is that it needs to be planted about a month before the plant is put on top of it. It needs to break down before tender roots are put on it. It would be awful to have the plant die. MM -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrea Quanchi Sent: Monday, 20 February 2006 5:00 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening Why dont you go to a good nursery and ask them what plants would thrive in a pot with a placenta. Maybe you need a pair of pots ( and half in each as it might be too much for one and would also increase your chances of having one survive Andrea Q On 20/02/2006, at 7:46 PM, Jo Watson wrote: Vicky, I am in the same boat - mine is still in the freezer from almost 9 months ago! I also had a home water birth, 29 min pushing, 7 hours total labour, physiological third stage... I am also a primip Midwife ;) Jo On 20/02/2006, at 4:19 PM, Vicky Gotte wrote: Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice about planting my placenta- it has been in the freezer for 5 months and I really need to do something with it!). I want to put it in a pot plant as I'd want to take the plant if we move. What plants would you recommend (please note I have killed mint!)and should I put it in a big plant pot or a small one. Do I need to do anything with the potting mix, or is a placenta and premium mix enough to make sure the plant thrives?. I know it's not really a mid question but I really want a 'special' plant for my daughter, and I didn't think the local nursery could give much advice. By the way, I had a beautiful water birth (with hardly any pushing), after a 2 1/2 hour first stage, and completed with a physiological third stage. (Not bad for a primip midwife!). Thanks a lot, Vicky Do you Yahoo!? Find a local business fast with Yahoo! Local Search http://au.local.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening
Hi Jo Vicky, I was given a 'Mother's Love' rose bush when my daughter was born (the same day as Jo's little boy). We brought a large pot and buried the placenta. We left it for a month or so to decompose. We were told that the placenta being so nutrient rich would kill anything planted if not left to do so first. Then we planted our rose, which is now just beautiful. Had our own burying and planting 'ceremonies' and took photos, although have been questioned many times as to why i wanted a photo of my placenta! Naomi Vicky, I am in the same boat - mine is still in the freezer from almost 9 months ago! I also had a home water birth, 29 min pushing, 7 hours total labour, physiological third stage... I am also a primip Midwife ;) Jo On 20/02/2006, at 4:19 PM, Vicky Gotte wrote: Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice about planting my placenta- it has been in the freezer for 5 months and I really need to do something with it!). I want to put it in a pot plant as I'd want to take the plant if we move. What plants would you recommend (please note I have killed mint!)and should I put it in a big plant pot or a small one. Do I need to do anything with the potting mix, or is a placenta and premium mix enough to make sure the plant thrives?. I know it's not really a mid question but I really want a 'special' plant for my daughter, and I didn't think the local nursery could give much advice. By the way, I had a beautiful water birth (with hardly any pushing), after a 2 1/2 hour first stage, and completed with a physiological third stage. (Not bad for a primip midwife!). Thanks a lot, Vicky Do you Yahoo!? Find a local business fast with Yahoo! Local Search http://au.local.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening
'We were told that the placenta being so nutrient rich would kill anything planted if not left to do so first' Hi Naomi, I hadn't heard this when I planted my twins placentas (placentae?) under a weeping cherry tree in our front yard, and whilst it didn't kill it, it came very, very close, and it took a really long time to bring it back from the brink. So yes, I can vouch for it being too rich to plant directly under something. I like the pot idea Vicky - not sure how I'd feel about leaving that tree behind if we ever moved. Regards Bernadine
Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening Dear All I can vouch for the following plants Camellia in a pot (very happy) 1st babe 6.5 years ago Grevillea (grew like bloody wildfire) nearly 5 years old David Austin old world Rose Only a bit sad due to drought and a forgotten area of the yard - um ma! (3 years old) Now what to plant for the twins? Yes HUGE placenta. I have a huge garden but virtually no space. I am thinking of something with a double flower (yes I like matching and all that cutesy meaning stuff!!), suggestions?? I planted the plant and placenta at the same time but the Camellia was originally in the ground. I gave the placenta a fair bit of space below the root ball of the plant. I am a keen gardener (yet dont know too much) and I would think as a rule anything that likes blood and bone should do fine. A native (like a Grevillea) should be an exception. I think Marys advice re staged planting is very sound. Perhaps ask what plants like rich soil and blood and bone type additions. Justine 6 HB babes all with/to have planted placentas (and I said placenta planting was hippy when first introduced to HB rituals, Ah how we eat our words!)
RE: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening
Hi I had two placentas (or are they placentae) in my freezer at one stage. The first thing to be sure of, is to thaw the placenta properly! I have to admit that the significance of placing your placenta under a tree is marred when the tree dies, due to having frozen placenta under it. Unfortunately that was what happened to me. However I had many friends in NZ who 'planted' their placentas under roses and fruit trees and kauri and the like. Choose a 'hardy' plant... my personal preference is fruit trees because I like the idea that my placenta is bearing fruit of it's own. Cheers Lindsay -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Watson Sent: Monday, 20 February 2006 6:47 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening Vicky, I am in the same boat - mine is still in the freezer from almost 9 months ago! I also had a home water birth, 29 min pushing, 7 hours total labour, physiological third stage... I am also a primip Midwife ;) Jo On 20/02/2006, at 4:19 PM, Vicky Gotte wrote: Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice about planting my placenta- it has been in the freezer for 5 months and I really need to do something with it!). I want to put it in a pot plant as I'd want to take the plant if we move. What plants would you recommend (please note I have killed mint!)and should I put it in a big plant pot or a small one. Do I need to do anything with the potting mix, or is a placenta and premium mix enough to make sure the plant thrives?. I know it's not really a mid question but I really want a 'special' plant for my daughter, and I didn't think the local nursery could give much advice. By the way, I had a beautiful water birth (with hardly any pushing), after a 2 1/2 hour first stage, and completed with a physiological third stage. (Not bad for a primip midwife!). Thanks a lot, Vicky Do you Yahoo!? Find a local business fast with Yahoo! Local Search http://au.local.yahoo.com -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/2006 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
RE: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening How about a grafted fruit tree Justine? Like a lemon/lime, or a lime/mandarine? You get two different fruits off the same tree, and fruit trees love the organic stuff On this topic, I think I may hold the current world record for keeping a placenta in the freezer, my second son is 5 this July, and due to moving house, and then doing some pretty major earthworks, we have not yet grounded his placenta. Im thinking hell be old enough to be not only mildly curious, but probably completely grossed out by the whole thing. We were actually talking about it at the dinner table tonight, (good midwives children, talk about anything while they are eating) and my oldest who has just turned 7 commented so were going to put a body part in the garden cool!. Its going to go next to our lovely walnut tree eventually, which is 20 ft high, and will not be affected like a new plant, Im thinking. Tania Xx (who actually has 2 placentae in her freezer, but one is from a birth last week where the woman didnt want it, but wanted it to go to a good homeJ) -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.6/257 - Release Date: 10/02/2006 -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.6/257 - Release Date: 10/02/2006
[ozmidwifery] placental gardening
thanks everyone for your great advice- I also had a few laughs, I didn't expect such a great response. I feel totally inspired to go and plant it now, and I'm sure I'll make it thrive! I suppose in a months time the weather will be good for planting also. I think I might get the mothers love rosebush- my mum actually said before I had my baby she was going to get us one (she must have forgotton??) Do you Yahoo!? Never miss an Instant Message - Yahoo! Messenger for SMS http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mweb/index.html -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening
Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening Ooh Yes, Tania, how nice different fruit from the same tree! Just lovely. Sold! JC xx
Re: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening
grrr, didn't get your original email Vicky but I get the gist of the conversation. All 3 of our placentas went first into the freezer. 1st one was defrosted about 2 months after baby's birth (near Christmas) and planted with a 'Christmas' tree (confier type) that we'd received in honour of her birth from a local nursery.The tree is huge now 14 years later. It was planted directly in the ground with the tree with no thought given to composting first! 2nd one stayed in the freezer for numerous months and then was placed in compost bin and compost was used in spring veggie garden. Beautiful veggies and even though the veggie garden has been moved to another area, the area where the compost was originally used has a lush garden growing. 3rd one was put straight into a huge pot after being defrosted within a couple of weeks of birth with a largish plant and it did fine. We eventually planted the (now) tree in to the garden because it became too big for the pot. Your mother's love rose idea sounds beautiful :) You could put the placenta into the pot now with some decent potting mix so that it composts before you add the rose. Roses are fairly forgiving anyway. Justine, have you heard of a plumcot? Beautiful tasting fruit which is a graft of plum/apricot. Has the best of the plum and apricot taste. Should grow nicely in your area. Regards Jayne - Original Message - From: Vicky Gotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 11:33 PM Subject: [ozmidwifery] placental gardening thanks everyone for your great advice- I also had a few laughs, I didn't expect such a great response. I feel totally inspired to go and plant it now, and I'm sure I'll make it thrive! I suppose in a months time the weather will be good for planting also. I think I might get the mothers love rosebush- my mum actually said before I had my baby she was going to get us one (she must have forgotton??) Do you Yahoo!? Never miss an Instant Message - Yahoo! Messenger for SMS http://au.mobile.yahoo.com/mweb/index.html -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.
