Fw: My view

2001-09-01 Thread Denise Hynd


>
> Dear Andrea
> Please do not despair I am sure insurance for all is coming and with all
> this crisis and its' resolution is coming greater awareness and support of
> midwifery care around Australia and the ground work has been laid for even
> greater midwifery access.
>
> Meanwhile if I were in your situation I would print  out a statement of
the
> history of this situation including your desire to be insured, intention
to
> practice as legally qualified, the present impasse and clients booked.
> Send to the ANF with CC to ACMI, Vic Health Minister and other party
> spokespersons, Vic Nurses Reg Board,  federal counter parts.
> Then I would include a copy of this (above)  in the notes of all clients
> plus an extension in the form of an acknowledgement by the client of this
> history and a determination between the both of you that all care will be
> done through an informed choice process and intention to optimise a
healthy
> natural pregnancy and childbirth.
>
> Meanwhile I feel we all need to see this as part of the transition phase
of
> the rebirth of midwifery care in Australia and we all know how cataclismic
> that can be.
>
> Denise
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ian & Andrea Quanchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Oz Midwifery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 8:21 AM
> Subject: My view
>
>
> > Well today is the first time I have had the time or the energy to put my
> > thoughts on paper about the insurance issue.
> >
> > The ANF rang me and asked me to come to the meeting on Thursday so I
> > changed all my appointments and made arrangements to go. I saw a client
> > who was due on September 6th and she had not had any signs of impending
> > labour and so I asked her to ring me before 7am if that changed.
> >
> > She rang at 0640 to say that her membranes had ruptured so leaving here
> > for over 7 hours to attend the meeting was not on. I did ring the ANF to
> > apologise but notice by Joy's notes that I was not on the apologies
> > list.
> >
> > The birth story is worth the telling but not the subject of this letter
> > but I guess things happen for a reason and she obliged bu having her
> > baby on August 31st while I still was covered ( I think) by the existing
> > policy.
> >
> > Those of you in a similar situation will, and the remainder probably
> > will have difficulty, understanding how I feel at this moment. Just
> > sitting here I can hardly see the keys for the tears that have been so
> > close to the surface for the last twenty four hours.
> >
> > I guess I knew in my heart that this was going to be the outcome but I
> > could never give up hope that a solution would be found and that the ANF
> > would put up the cost of the policies of all ANF members to continue to
> > give woman the right to choose where they give birth and who it is that
> > they want to have with them.
> >
> > I am sitting here not considering giving up my practice. I can't. I
> > haven't been through what I have over the last two years to give it up
> > now.  I haven't even been to a home birth yet and have just booked my
> > first client that wants one.  I'm working out how to go about
> > continuing.
> >
> > I totally respect the right of the ACMI to advise me not to practice
> > without insurance as at the moment it is a part of their policy that all
> > midwives have insurance and that was fine while it was available but if
> > I have to choose between being a member of the ACMI and practicing then
> > they had better be looking quickly at that part of the policy. The
> > nurses board of Victoria are in the same situation.
> >
> > My long suffering husband,  with the patience of a saint, has stood by
> > my side throughout all this and simply sat beside me yesterday and said
> > well what do we do now?  Looking at ways to get rid of all my assets is
> > probably the answer. You have to look at this from a lawyers perspective
> > as that is who is driving this. That is where all the litigation stuff
> > is coming from. Lawyers don't take on cases where there is little
> > likelihood of a payout and if I don't have any assets then they can sue
> > away but you can't get blood out of a stone.  I have absolutely no fear
> > of being sued by a woman and all of the clients I have at this stage
> > have volunteered without prompting to sign a disclaimer rather than give
> > up the option of having me provide their care. But I think the deal is
> > legally they can't sign a disc

My view

2001-09-01 Thread Ian & Andrea Quanchi

Well today is the first time I have had the time or the energy to put my
thoughts on paper about the insurance issue.

The ANF rang me and asked me to come to the meeting on Thursday so I
changed all my appointments and made arrangements to go. I saw a client
who was due on September 6th and she had not had any signs of impending
labour and so I asked her to ring me before 7am if that changed.

She rang at 0640 to say that her membranes had ruptured so leaving here
for over 7 hours to attend the meeting was not on. I did ring the ANF to
apologise but notice by Joy's notes that I was not on the apologies
list.

The birth story is worth the telling but not the subject of this letter
but I guess things happen for a reason and she obliged bu having her
baby on August 31st while I still was covered ( I think) by the existing
policy.

Those of you in a similar situation will, and the remainder probably
will have difficulty, understanding how I feel at this moment. Just
sitting here I can hardly see the keys for the tears that have been so
close to the surface for the last twenty four hours.

I guess I knew in my heart that this was going to be the outcome but I
could never give up hope that a solution would be found and that the ANF
would put up the cost of the policies of all ANF members to continue to
give woman the right to choose where they give birth and who it is that
they want to have with them.

I am sitting here not considering giving up my practice. I can't. I
haven't been through what I have over the last two years to give it up
now.  I haven't even been to a home birth yet and have just booked my
first client that wants one.  I'm working out how to go about
continuing.

I totally respect the right of the ACMI to advise me not to practice
without insurance as at the moment it is a part of their policy that all
midwives have insurance and that was fine while it was available but if
I have to choose between being a member of the ACMI and practicing then
they had better be looking quickly at that part of the policy. The
nurses board of Victoria are in the same situation.

My long suffering husband,  with the patience of a saint, has stood by
my side throughout all this and simply sat beside me yesterday and said
well what do we do now?  Looking at ways to get rid of all my assets is
probably the answer. You have to look at this from a lawyers perspective
as that is who is driving this. That is where all the litigation stuff
is coming from. Lawyers don't take on cases where there is little
likelihood of a payout and if I don't have any assets then they can sue
away but you can't get blood out of a stone.  I have absolutely no fear
of being sued by a woman and all of the clients I have at this stage
have volunteered without prompting to sign a disclaimer rather than give
up the option of having me provide their care. But I think the deal is
legally they can't sign a disclaimer on behalf of their baby and that is
where a case will come form if one ever does.

Well I guess the ACMI conference in a couple of weeks is going to  give
us the opportunity to get together and discuss this and I for one am
glad to be going.

I feel better now after having talked to you all and over the last two
years this list has been a god send for  support and for that I
Andrea Quanchi


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My view

2001-09-01 Thread Ian & Andrea Quanchi

Well today is the first time I have had the time or the energy to put my
thoughts on paper about the insurance issue.

The ANF rang me and asked me to come to the meeting on Thursday so I
changed all my appointments and made arrangements to go. I saw a client
who was due on September 6th and she had not had any signs of impending
labour and so I asked her to ring me before 7am if that changed.

She rang at 0640 to say that her membranes had ruptured so leaving here
for over 7 hours to attend the meeting was not on. I did ring the ANF to
apologise but notice by Joy's notes that I was not on the apologies
list.

The birth story is worth the telling but not the subject of this letter
but I guess things happen for a reason and she obliged bu having her
baby on August 31st while I still was covered ( I think) by the existing
policy.

Those of you in a similar situation will, and the remainder probably
will have difficulty, understanding how I feel at this moment. Just
sitting here I can hardly see the keys for the tears that have been so
close to the surface for the last twenty four hours.

I guess I knew in my heart that this was going to be the outcome but I
could never give up hope that a solution would be found and that the ANF
would put up the cost of the policies of all ANF members to continue to
give woman the right to choose where they give birth and who it is that
they want to have with them.

I am sitting here not considering giving up my practice. I can't. I
haven't been through what I have over the last two years to give it up
now.  I haven't even been to a home birth yet and have just booked my
first client that wants one.  I'm working out how to go about
continuing.

I totally respect the right of the ACMI to advise me not to practice
without insurance as at the moment it is a part of their policy that all
midwives have insurance and that was fine while it was available but if
I have to choose between being a member of the ACMI and practicing then
they had better be looking quickly at that part of the policy. The
nurses board of Victoria are in the same situation.

My long suffering husband,  with the patience of a saint, has stood by
my side throughout all this and simply sat beside me yesterday and said
well what do we do now?  Looking at ways to get rid of all my assets is
probably the answer. You have to look at this from a lawyers perspective
as that is who is driving this. That is where all the litigation stuff
is coming from. Lawyers don't take on cases where there is little
likelihood of a payout and if I don't have any assets then they can sue
away but you can't get blood out of a stone.  I have absolutely no fear
of being sued by a woman and all of the clients I have at this stage
have volunteered without prompting to sign a disclaimer rather than give
up the option of having me provide their care. But I think the deal is
legally they can't sign a disclaimer on behalf of their baby and that is
where a case will come form if one ever does.

Well I guess the ACMI conference in a couple of weeks is going to  give
us the opportunity to get together and discuss this and I for one am
glad to be going.

I feel better now after having talked to you all and over the last two
years this list has been a god send for  support and for that I
Andrea Quanchi

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