RE: [ozmidwifery] Liability ruling in Weekend Australian

2005-08-21 Thread Tania Smallwood








You said it all Sally_Anne

 

Tania

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Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery]
Liability ruling in Weekend Australian



 



Thanks for this link Tania, 





 





re the case - two thoughts





 





ONE - this is exactly why all midwives need to be aware that
they should have their own PI Insurance - because of the reality that vicarious
liability alone does not cover a midwife.  Sadly - many midwives still
make the assumption that the PI Insurance issue is to be put in the basket
for IPM's to deal with, in the belief it is only their issue (how sad our
colleagues are not supported anyway! ) - but the truth is PI is an issue
that affects all midwives ! 





 





good to see Bisits calling it as it is and not buying into
the primary care stuff as RANZCOG recently did (it would be delightful to be a
fly on the wall right now). Of course Mourik's claim that Ob's be responsible
for the work of midwives is the response we would expect when the issue not
been faced is the OB been responisble for
their own work..which leads into point two.





 





TWO - 





 







We all know obstetric beds are the highest number of
hospital beds used currently approx 250,000 per year.  And
despite the OB's  largely turning birthing into big
 'business' - with overservicing of well women and less time
available for the women who do need hrs of intensive obstetric care -
govts still provide the funds to keep it happenning,





 





Women do not actually receive the care they think they
will when they choose an obstetrician for their care in both the private and
public health sector. we know the OB's do not provide the care
for a woman experiencing labour and birth -  it
is the midwives who provide this care with the OB glorified for
catching the baby (if they actually make it in time -and only if the woman
has private health cover).  Whilst different OB's do have
different practices, in the public health arena a woman does not realise that
even in an obstetric emergency - caesarean section or emergency medical
care - the Obstetrician does not provide this.  - women do not
realise it is provided by the team of midwives and drs/ob's in
training (residents and registrars) while the obstetricians who may
have seen the women for one or two brief periods in pregnancy and birth (15-30
mins ?) are drumming up big business (scans and genetic tests), often
imposed on healthy well young women at whim - who again do not need to be overserviced
with costly and unnessary tests. and we all know only a small proportion of
women receiving this care actually need it - and the costs to women and the
system are exorbitant. 





 







Yet how do the govts address this ? - when the
insurance crisis hit the fed government bailed the OB's out to the
tune of $600 million and libs senator helen coonan secured coverage with
Llyods (London) ... the govt also provides access to
the high costs claim scheme (where if the Ob's PI insurance fee is more
than 7.5% of their income the govt pays the rest 80% AND will payout any
claim over $300,000 !) - not to mention the
coverage by medicare etc.





 





so why do govts continue to pay unnessary medicalised birth
costs and the 'patch up the damage funds' for other health costs resulting from
women recovering from traumatic birth experiences, postnatal depression etc ?
 why do they keep plugging up the holes and support a service that is
essentially unnessary and expensive medical sub standard care for the
majority of women (80% WHO) ?







 





Why do govts deny women the right to experience the safest
and most cost effective pregnancy and birth care ensuring the health
system 'dam' wall bursts while midwives do not have equity to
access medicare provider numbers or insurance ? ... yes abbott has stated
he is now finally considering
medicare for midwives but only if a woman has been serviced by the public
health budget of a medicare swiped visit to the GP for a referral first ! 





 





despite all the evidence, unnessa'scary costs are continuing
to be paid out big time - for sub-standard care of healthy well women
experiencing pregnancy and birth.  one does not need to look much
further than the individual and organisational donations at election time
and the politics of the obstetric alliance to work out why.





 





Sally-Anne 





 









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From: Tania Smallwood






To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 





Sent: Sunday, August 21,
2005 7:00 PM





Subject: [ozmidwifery]
Liability ruling in Weekend Australian





 



http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,16318814%255E23289,00.html

 

 


 
  
   
  
 


Liability ruling delivers
fuel to midwife debate
Adam Cresswell, health e

Re: [ozmidwifery] Liability ruling in Weekend Australian

2005-08-21 Thread Sally-Anne Brown



Thanks for this link Tania, 
 
re the case - two thoughts
 
ONE - this is exactly why all midwives need to be 
aware that they should have their own PI Insurance - because of the reality that 
vicarious liability alone does not cover a midwife.  Sadly - many midwives 
still make the assumption that the PI Insurance issue is to be put in the 
basket for IPM's to deal with, in the belief it is only their issue (how sad our 
colleagues are not supported anyway! ) - but the truth is PI is an issue 
that affects all midwives ! 
 
good to see Bisits calling it as it is and not 
buying into the primary care stuff as RANZCOG recently did (it would be 
delightful to be a fly on the wall right now). Of course Mourik's claim that 
Ob's be responsible for the work of midwives is the response we would expect 
when the issue not been faced is the OB been responisble for their own 
work..which leads into point two.
 
TWO - 
 

We all know obstetric beds are the highest 
number of hospital beds used currently approx 250,000 per year.  
And despite the OB's  largely 
turning birthing into big  'business' - with overservicing of well 
women and less time available for the women who do need hrs of 
intensive obstetric care - govts still provide the funds to keep it 
happenning,
 
Women do not actually receive the care they 
think they will when they choose an obstetrician for their care in both the 
private and public health sector. we know the OB's do not 
provide the care for a woman experiencing 
labour and birth -  it is the midwives who provide this care 
with the OB glorified for catching the baby (if they actually make it in 
time -and only if the woman has private health cover).  Whilst 
different OB's do have different practices, in the public health arena a woman 
does not realise that even in an obstetric 
emergency - caesarean section or emergency medical care - the Obstetrician 
does not provide this.  - women do 
not realise it is provided by the team of midwives and drs/ob's 
in training (residents and registrars) while the obstetricians who may 
have seen the women for one or two brief periods in pregnancy and birth (15-30 
mins ?) are drumming up big business (scans and genetic tests), often 
imposed on healthy well young women at whim - who 
again do not need to be overserviced with costly and unnessary tests. and we all 
know only a small proportion of women receiving this care actually need it - and 
the costs to women and the system are exorbitant. 
 

Yet how do the govts address this ? - when the 
insurance crisis hit the fed government bailed the OB's out to the 
tune of $600 million and libs senator helen coonan secured coverage with 
Llyods (London) ... the govt also provides access to 
the high costs claim scheme (where if the Ob's PI insurance fee is more 
than 7.5% of their income the govt pays the rest 80% AND will payout any 
claim over $300,000 !) - not to mention the 
coverage by medicare etc.
 
so why do govts continue to pay unnessary 
medicalised birth costs and the 'patch up the damage funds' for other health 
costs resulting from women recovering from traumatic birth experiences, 
postnatal depression etc ?  why do they keep plugging up the holes and 
support a service that is essentially unnessary and expensive 
medical sub standard care for the majority of women (80% 
WHO) ?
 
Why do govts deny women the right to experience the 
safest and most cost effective pregnancy and birth care ensuring the health 
system 'dam' wall bursts while midwives do not have equity to 
access medicare provider numbers or insurance ? ... yes abbott has stated he is now finally considering 
medicare for midwives but only if a woman has been serviced by the public health 
budget of a medicare swiped visit to the GP for a referral first ! 
 
despite all the evidence, unnessa'scary costs are 
continuing to be paid out big time - for sub-standard care of healthy well 
women experiencing pregnancy and birth.  one does not need to look 
much further than the individual and organisational donations at election 
time and the politics of the obstetric alliance to work out why.
 
Sally-Anne 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tania 
  Smallwood 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 7:00 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] Liability ruling 
  in Weekend Australian
  
  
  http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,16318814%255E23289,00.html
   
   
  


  
 
  Liability ruling delivers 
  fuel to midwife debateAdam Cresswell, health editorAugust 20, 2005 
  
  DOCTORS and midwives are at 
  loggerheads over their legal liabilities from new-style birthing units after a 
  hospital sued an obstetrician to recover a share of the $7.5million it was 
  ordered to pay for a birth mishap involving a 
  midwife.Obstetricians say the 
  case vindicates their fears they will be held responsible for the work of 
  midwives, who are pushing for expanded ro