Silverlight 4

2010-04-15 Thread Vinay Tripathi
Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download.


Vinay

-Original Message-
From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

Hey Ross,

Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a big 
framework - so chaning it isn't an option.

Cheers,

Jordan.


From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of ross 
[r...@perenni.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win.

You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming
the legacy permits.

I just tried it out for fun.  I have two divs, one with a SL app and
one with a html button.

On clicking the button I hid the SL div, called the page method, and
on the page method callback showed the SL div and updated a label in
the html div with the time from the server.  The SL app definitely
didn't reload, as I had a timestamp showing in the xaml side of things
that didn't change.


On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Jordan Knight
jordan.kni...@readify.net wrote:
 Having it outside was an option i've considered... the problem is that the
 UI is quite complex with fold out bits etc... so having it float would
 probably make it look a bit funny.

 JAK
 
 From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
 [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien
 [j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
 Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 12:00 PM
 To: 'ozSilverlight'
 Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

 We talking updatepanels Jordan? You need to make sure you're SL controls are
 not within the updatepanel or they are redrawn.

 The trick we used for the Bing Maps ASP.NET control was to have the update
 panel just contain some divs used for communication while the large map
 control sat just outside. This was all encapsulated within the control, the
 developer didn't add their own updatepanel.



 John.



 From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
 [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
 Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 11:36 AM
 To: ozSilverlight
 Subject: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML



 Hey guys,



 I have a situation where an existing ASP.NET AJAX based app has a series of
 SL controls in them. Basically they don't want the SL elements to reload
 when the ajax controls refresh.



 I've had a muck around with moving the element in JS, and it can be moved no
 problem - but it re-initialises the control each time... pretty sure its the
 browser doing it.



 Does anyone have any ideas on how I might move an SL control without it
 re-initialising?



 Cheers!

 Jordan.

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Re: Silverlight 4

2010-04-15 Thread Winston Pang
So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is?

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph n...@builttoroam.comwrote:

 Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for
 Silverlight 4 itself!

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 -Original Message-
 From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
 ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi
 Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM
 To: ozSilverlight
 Subject: Silverlight 4

 Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download.


 Vinay

 -Original Message-
 From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
 ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
 Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM
 To: ozSilverlight
 Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

 Hey Ross,

 Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a
 big framework - so chaning it isn't an option.

 Cheers,

 Jordan.

 
 From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [
 ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of ross [
 r...@perenni.com.au]
 Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM
 To: ozSilverlight
 Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

 If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win.

 You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming
 the legacy permits.

 I just tried it out for fun.  I have two divs, one with a SL app and
 one with a html button.

 On clicking the button I hid the SL div, called the page method, and
 on the page method callback showed the SL div and updated a label in
 the html div with the time from the server.  The SL app definitely
 didn't reload, as I had a timestamp showing in the xaml side of things
 that didn't change.


 On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Jordan Knight
 jordan.kni...@readify.net wrote:
  Having it outside was an option i've considered... the problem is that
 the
  UI is quite complex with fold out bits etc... so having it float would
  probably make it look a bit funny.
 
  JAK
  
  From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
  [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien
  [j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
  Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 12:00 PM
  To: 'ozSilverlight'
  Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML
 
  We talking updatepanels Jordan? You need to make sure you're SL controls
 are
  not within the updatepanel or they are redrawn.
 
  The trick we used for the Bing Maps ASP.NET control was to have the
 update
  panel just contain some divs used for communication while the large map
  control sat just outside. This was all encapsulated within the control,
 the
  developer didn't add their own updatepanel.
 
 
 
  John.
 
 
 
  From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
  [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan
 Knight
  Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 11:36 AM
  To: ozSilverlight
  Subject: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML
 
 
 
  Hey guys,
 
 
 
  I have a situation where an existing ASP.NET AJAX based app has a series
 of
  SL controls in them. Basically they don't want the SL elements to reload
  when the ajax controls refresh.
 
 
 
  I've had a muck around with moving the element in JS, and it can be moved
 no
  problem - but it re-initialises the control each time... pretty sure its
 the
  browser doing it.
 
 
 
  Does anyone have any ideas on how I might move an SL control without it
  re-initialising?
 
 
 
  Cheers!
 
  Jordan.
 
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Re: Silverlight 4

2010-04-15 Thread Jordan Knight
Yuppers

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang winstonp...@gmail.comwrote:

 So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is?


 On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph n...@builttoroam.comwrote:

 Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for
 Silverlight 4 itself!

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 -Original Message-
 From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
 ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi
 Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM
 To: ozSilverlight
 Subject: Silverlight 4

 Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download.


 Vinay

 -Original Message-
 From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
 ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
 Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM
 To: ozSilverlight
 Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

 Hey Ross,

 Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a
 big framework - so chaning it isn't an option.

 Cheers,

 Jordan.

 
 From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [
 ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of ross [
 r...@perenni.com.au]
 Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM
 To: ozSilverlight
 Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

 If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win.

 You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming
 the legacy permits.

 I just tried it out for fun.  I have two divs, one with a SL app and
 one with a html button.

 On clicking the button I hid the SL div, called the page method, and
 on the page method callback showed the SL div and updated a label in
 the html div with the time from the server.  The SL app definitely
 didn't reload, as I had a timestamp showing in the xaml side of things
 that didn't change.


 On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Jordan Knight
 jordan.kni...@readify.net wrote:
  Having it outside was an option i've considered... the problem is that
 the
  UI is quite complex with fold out bits etc... so having it float would
  probably make it look a bit funny.
 
  JAK
  
  From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
  [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien
  [j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
  Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 12:00 PM
  To: 'ozSilverlight'
  Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML
 
  We talking updatepanels Jordan? You need to make sure you're SL controls
 are
  not within the updatepanel or they are redrawn.
 
  The trick we used for the Bing Maps ASP.NET control was to have the
 update
  panel just contain some divs used for communication while the large map
  control sat just outside. This was all encapsulated within the control,
 the
  developer didn't add their own updatepanel.
 
 
 
  John.
 
 
 
  From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
  [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan
 Knight
  Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 11:36 AM
  To: ozSilverlight
  Subject: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML
 
 
 
  Hey guys,
 
 
 
  I have a situation where an existing ASP.NET AJAX based app has a
 series of
  SL controls in them. Basically they don't want the SL elements to reload
  when the ajax controls refresh.
 
 
 
  I've had a muck around with moving the element in JS, and it can be
 moved no
  problem - but it re-initialises the control each time... pretty sure its
 the
  browser doing it.
 
 
 
  Does anyone have any ideas on how I might move an SL control without it
  re-initialising?
 
 
 
  Cheers!
 
  Jordan.
 
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Re: Silverlight 4

2010-04-15 Thread Winston Pang
Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all
these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM
bits at once.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight jak...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yuppers


 On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang winstonp...@gmail.comwrote:

 So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is?


 On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph n...@builttoroam.comwrote:

 Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for
 Silverlight 4 itself!

 Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application
 Development | +61 412 413 425
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 -Original Message-
 From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
 ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi
 Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM
 To: ozSilverlight
 Subject: Silverlight 4

 Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download.


 Vinay

 -Original Message-
 From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
 ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
 Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM
 To: ozSilverlight
 Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

 Hey Ross,

 Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a
 big framework - so chaning it isn't an option.

 Cheers,

 Jordan.

 
 From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [
 ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of ross [
 r...@perenni.com.au]
 Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM
 To: ozSilverlight
 Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

 If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win.

 You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming
 the legacy permits.

 I just tried it out for fun.  I have two divs, one with a SL app and
 one with a html button.

 On clicking the button I hid the SL div, called the page method, and
 on the page method callback showed the SL div and updated a label in
 the html div with the time from the server.  The SL app definitely
 didn't reload, as I had a timestamp showing in the xaml side of things
 that didn't change.


 On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Jordan Knight
 jordan.kni...@readify.net wrote:
  Having it outside was an option i've considered... the problem is that
 the
  UI is quite complex with fold out bits etc... so having it float would
  probably make it look a bit funny.
 
  JAK
  
  From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
  [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien
  [j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
  Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 12:00 PM
  To: 'ozSilverlight'
  Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML
 
  We talking updatepanels Jordan? You need to make sure you're SL
 controls are
  not within the updatepanel or they are redrawn.
 
  The trick we used for the Bing Maps ASP.NET control was to have the
 update
  panel just contain some divs used for communication while the large map
  control sat just outside. This was all encapsulated within the control,
 the
  developer didn't add their own updatepanel.
 
 
 
  John.
 
 
 
  From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
  [mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan
 Knight
  Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 11:36 AM
  To: ozSilverlight
  Subject: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML
 
 
 
  Hey guys,
 
 
 
  I have a situation where an existing ASP.NET AJAX based app has a
 series of
  SL controls in them. Basically they don't want the SL elements to
 reload
  when the ajax controls refresh.
 
 
 
  I've had a muck around with moving the element in JS, and it can be
 moved no
  problem - but it re-initialises the control each time... pretty sure
 its the
  browser doing it.
 
 
 
  Does anyone have any ideas on how I might move an SL control without it
  re-initialising?
 
 
 
  Cheers!
 
  Jordan.
 
  ___
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RE: Silverlight 4

2010-04-15 Thread Jordan Knight
+ It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :)

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph 
[n...@builttoroam.com]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

Right, so you’d prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the 
designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know 
what I’d prefer.

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| +61 412 413 425
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From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Silverlight 4

Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all 
these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM bits 
at once.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight 
jak...@gmail.commailto:jak...@gmail.com wrote:
Yuppers

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang 
winstonp...@gmail.commailto:winstonp...@gmail.com wrote:
So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is?

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph 
n...@builttoroam.commailto:n...@builttoroam.com wrote:
Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for 
Silverlight 4 itself!

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development 
| +61 412 413 425
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in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or 
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-Original Message-
From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com]
 On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Silverlight 4

Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download.


Vinay

-Original Message-
From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com]
 On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

Hey Ross,

Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a big 
framework - so chaning it isn't an option.

Cheers,

Jordan.


From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com]
 On Behalf Of ross [r...@perenni.com.aumailto:r...@perenni.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win.

You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming
the legacy permits.

I just tried it out for fun.  I have two divs, one with a SL app and
one with a html button.

On clicking the button I hid the SL div, called the page method, and
on the page method callback showed the SL div and updated a label in
the html div with the time from the server.  The SL app definitely
didn't reload, as I had a timestamp showing in the xaml side of things
that didn't change.


On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Jordan Knight
jordan.kni...@readify.netmailto:jordan.kni...@readify.net wrote:
 Having it outside was an option i've considered... the problem is that the
 UI is quite complex with fold out bits etc... so having it float would
 probably make it look a bit funny.

 JAK
 
 From: 
 ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
 [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com]
  On Behalf Of John OBrien
 [j...@soulsolutions.com.aumailto:j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
 Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 12:00 PM
 To: 'ozSilverlight'
 Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

 We talking updatepanels Jordan? You need to make sure you're SL controls are
 not within the updatepanel or they are redrawn.

 The trick we 

RE: Silverlight 4

2010-04-15 Thread John OBrien
Great post from Tim explaining it all:
http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.
aspx

 

Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what
I'll be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the
only problematic piece of the puzzle.

 

John.

 

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

 

+ It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's
done :)

  _  

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph
[n...@builttoroam.com]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

Right, so you'd prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the
designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I
know what I'd prefer.

 

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application
Development | +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the
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From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Silverlight 4

 

Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all
these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM
bits at once.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight jak...@gmail.com wrote:

Yuppers

 

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang winstonp...@gmail.com
wrote:

So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is?

 

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph n...@builttoroam.com
wrote:

Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for
Silverlight 4 itself!

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application
Development | +61 412 413 425
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intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this
email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any
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-Original Message-
From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Silverlight 4

Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download.


Vinay

-Original Message-
From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

Hey Ross,

Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a
big framework - so chaning it isn't an option.

Cheers,

Jordan.


From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of ross
[r...@perenni.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win.

You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming
the legacy permits.

I just tried it out for fun.  I have two divs, one with a SL app and
one with a html button.

On clicking the button I hid the SL div, called the page method, and
on the page method callback showed the SL div and updated a label in
the html div with the time from the server.  The SL app definitely
didn't reload, as I had a timestamp showing in the xaml side of things
that didn't change.


On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Jordan Knight
jordan.kni...@readify.net wrote:
 Having it outside was an option i've considered... the problem is that the
 UI is quite complex with fold out bits etc... so having it float would
 probably make it look a bit funny.

 JAK
 
 From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
 [ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien
 [j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
 Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 12:00 PM
 To: 'ozSilverlight'
 Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

 We talking updatepanels Jordan? You need to make sure you're SL controls
are
 not within the updatepanel or they are redrawn.

 The trick we used for the Bing Maps ASP.NET control 

RE: Silverlight 4

2010-04-15 Thread Jordan Knight

A gotcha worth pointing out when going to VS2010 and developing for Azure with 
Silverlight and WCF RIA Services: The 2010 version of WCF RIA Services can't 
run on 3.5... So I've been re-isntalling WRS as I switch projects.

Nothing major - its a 2 mins install...

Anyone have an tips on having them both on the machine at once?

Probably should just build a VS08 VPC :)

Jordan.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien 
[j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 1:02 PM
To: 'ozSilverlight'
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

Great post from Tim explaining it all: 
http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.aspx

Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what I’ll 
be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the only 
problematic piece of the puzzle.

John.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

+ It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :)

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph 
[n...@builttoroam.com]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4
Right, so you’d prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the 
designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know 
what I’d prefer.

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development 
| +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the 
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email 
in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or 
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not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Silverlight 4

Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all 
these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM bits 
at once.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight 
jak...@gmail.commailto:jak...@gmail.com wrote:
Yuppers

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang 
winstonp...@gmail.commailto:winstonp...@gmail.com wrote:
So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is?

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph 
n...@builttoroam.commailto:n...@builttoroam.com wrote:
Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for 
Silverlight 4 itself!

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development 
| +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the 
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email 
in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or 
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-Original Message-
From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com]
 On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Silverlight 4

Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download.


Vinay

-Original Message-
From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com]
 On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

Hey Ross,

Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a big 
framework - so chaning it isn't an option.

Cheers,

Jordan.


From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com]
 On Behalf Of ross [r...@perenni.com.aumailto:r...@perenni.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win.

You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming
the legacy permits.

I just tried it out for fun.  I have two divs, one with a SL app and
one with a html 

RE: Silverlight 4

2010-04-15 Thread Scott Barnes
Give the expression team some slack this time round, as think about their 
shipping dependencies..heheh

- VS2010 compat
- .NET 4 compat
- SL4 compat
- WP7 compat
+ New Features

All within around a 9 month schedule. When we were told of the schedule after 
SL3 was launched I simply shook my head in disbelief and uttered the words 
poor bastards... they appear to have come through in the end

Hats off to them though they've kept it together considering.




From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien 
[j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 1:02 PM
To: 'ozSilverlight'
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

Great post from Tim explaining it all: 
http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.aspx

Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what I’ll 
be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the only 
problematic piece of the puzzle.

John.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

+ It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :)

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph 
[n...@builttoroam.com]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4
Right, so you’d prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the 
designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know 
what I’d prefer.

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development 
| +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the 
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email 
in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or 
attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may 
not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Silverlight 4

Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all 
these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM bits 
at once.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight 
jak...@gmail.commailto:jak...@gmail.com wrote:
Yuppers

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang 
winstonp...@gmail.commailto:winstonp...@gmail.com wrote:
So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is?

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph 
n...@builttoroam.commailto:n...@builttoroam.com wrote:
Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for 
Silverlight 4 itself!

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development 
| +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the 
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email 
in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or 
attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may 
not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.


-Original Message-
From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com]
 On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Silverlight 4

Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download.


Vinay

-Original Message-
From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com]
 On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

Hey Ross,

Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a big 
framework - so chaning it isn't an option.

Cheers,

Jordan.


From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com]
 On Behalf Of ross [r...@perenni.com.aumailto:r...@perenni.com.au]
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:00 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

If the SL app is inside an updatepanel I don't think you will ever win.

You could try pagemethods instead of updatepanels perhaps, assuming
the legacy permits.

I just 

RE: Silverlight 4

2010-04-15 Thread Scott Barnes
Jordan: I ended up created 3x VHD's that i do native boots on.

VHD1 - VS2008 (SL3/EXPR3)
VHD2 - VS2010 (RC)
VHD3 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXPR 4 RC

then i'll create a VHD4
VHD4 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXP4 RTW

I use a base VHD with everything but Microsoft tools installed (CS4, Office etc)

Go Win7! :)


From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight 
[jordan.kni...@readify.net]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 1:06 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4


A gotcha worth pointing out when going to VS2010 and developing for Azure with 
Silverlight and WCF RIA Services: The 2010 version of WCF RIA Services can't 
run on 3.5... So I've been re-isntalling WRS as I switch projects.

Nothing major - its a 2 mins install...

Anyone have an tips on having them both on the machine at once?

Probably should just build a VS08 VPC :)

Jordan.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien 
[j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 1:02 PM
To: 'ozSilverlight'
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

Great post from Tim explaining it all: 
http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.aspx

Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what I’ll 
be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the only 
problematic piece of the puzzle.

John.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

+ It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :)

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph 
[n...@builttoroam.com]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4
Right, so you’d prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the 
designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know 
what I’d prefer.

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development 
| +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the 
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email 
in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or 
attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may 
not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Silverlight 4

Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all 
these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM bits 
at once.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight 
jak...@gmail.commailto:jak...@gmail.com wrote:
Yuppers

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang 
winstonp...@gmail.commailto:winstonp...@gmail.com wrote:
So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is?

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph 
n...@builttoroam.commailto:n...@builttoroam.com wrote:
Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for 
Silverlight 4 itself!

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application Development 
| +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not the 
intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in this email 
in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of any emails or 
attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the author's own and may 
not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.


-Original Message-
From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com]
 On Behalf Of Vinay Tripathi
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Silverlight 4

Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download.


Vinay

-Original Message-
From: 
ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.commailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com]
 On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Move Silverlight Element around in HTML

Hey Ross,

Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately the app is actually a CMS with a big 
framework - so chaning it isn't an option.

Cheers,

Jordan.


From: 

VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)

2010-04-15 Thread Carl . Scarlett
OMG.  I had no idea you could do native boots on VHDs in Windows 7.  I
still can't pick my jaw up from the floor.

 

Scott: Are there any tools that let you do this easily setup VHDs for
boot or is it all done through the command line (Diskpart etc)?

 

Carl.

 

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Scott
Barnes scott.bar...@readify.net
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:29 PM
To: ozSilverlight ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

 

Jordan: I ended up created 3x VHD's that i do native boots on.

 

VHD1 - VS2008 (SL3/EXPR3)

VHD2 - VS2010 (RC)

VHD3 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXPR 4 RC

 

then i'll create a VHD4

VHD4 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXP4 RTW

 

I use a base VHD with everything but Microsoft tools installed (CS4,
Office etc) 

 

Go Win7! :)

 



From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
[jordan.kni...@readify.net]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 1:06 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

 

A gotcha worth pointing out when going to VS2010 and developing for
Azure with Silverlight and WCF RIA Services: The 2010 version of WCF RIA
Services can't run on 3.5... So I've been re-isntalling WRS as I switch
projects.

 

Nothing major - its a 2 mins install... 

 

Anyone have an tips on having them both on the machine at once?

 

Probably should just build a VS08 VPC :)

 

Jordan.



From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien
[j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 1:02 PM
To: 'ozSilverlight'
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

Great post from Tim explaining it all:
http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-relea
sed.aspx

 

Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is
what I'll be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for
SL3 is the only problematic piece of the puzzle.

 

John.

 

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan
Knight
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

 

+ It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's
done :)



From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph
[n...@builttoroam.com]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

Right, so you'd prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all
the designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today
h I know what I'd prefer.

 

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application
Development | +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not
the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in
this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of
any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the
author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.

 

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston
Pang
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Silverlight 4

 

Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of
all these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the
RTM bits at once.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight jak...@gmail.com
wrote:

Yuppers

 

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang winstonp...@gmail.com
wrote:

So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is?

 

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph n...@builttoroam.com
wrote:

Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for
Silverlight 4 itself!

Nick Randolph | Built To Roam | Microsoft MVP - Device Application
Development | +61 412 413 425
The information contained in this email is confidential. If you are not
the intended recipient, you may not disclose or use the information in
this email in any way. Built To Roam does not guarantee the integrity of
any emails or attached files. The views or opinions expressed are the
author's own and may not reflect the views or opinions of Built To Roam.



-Original Message-
From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Vinay
Tripathi
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 10:03 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Silverlight 4

Just checked, Silverlight 4 RC2 is now available for download.


Vinay

-Original Message-
From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan
Knight
Sent: Thursday, 15 April 2010 2:03 PM
To: 

RE: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)

2010-04-15 Thread Jordan Knight
hehe I love those moments

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of 
carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au [carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 3:32 PM
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)

OMG.  I had no idea you could do native boots on VHDs in Windows 7.  I still 
can’t pick my jaw up from the floor.

Scott: Are there any tools that let you do this easily setup VHDs for boot or 
is it all done through the command line (Diskpart etc)?

Carl.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes 
scott.bar...@readify.net
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:29 PM
To: ozSilverlight ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

Jordan: I ended up created 3x VHD's that i do native boots on.

VHD1 - VS2008 (SL3/EXPR3)
VHD2 - VS2010 (RC)
VHD3 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXPR 4 RC

then i'll create a VHD4
VHD4 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXP4 RTW

I use a base VHD with everything but Microsoft tools installed (CS4, Office etc)

Go Win7! :)


From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight 
[jordan.kni...@readify.net]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 1:06 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

A gotcha worth pointing out when going to VS2010 and developing for Azure with 
Silverlight and WCF RIA Services: The 2010 version of WCF RIA Services can't 
run on 3.5... So I've been re-isntalling WRS as I switch projects.

Nothing major - its a 2 mins install...

Anyone have an tips on having them both on the machine at once?

Probably should just build a VS08 VPC :)

Jordan.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien 
[j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 1:02 PM
To: 'ozSilverlight'
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4
Great post from Tim explaining it all: 
http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.aspx

Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what I’ll 
be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the only 
problematic piece of the puzzle.

John.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

+ It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :)

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph 
[n...@builttoroam.com]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4
Right, so you’d prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the 
designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know 
what I’d prefer.

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From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Silverlight 4

Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick of all 
these beta and RC bits on my machine, I want to just install all the RTM bits 
at once.
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Jordan Knight 
jak...@gmail.commailto:jak...@gmail.com wrote:
Yuppers

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Winston Pang 
winstonp...@gmail.commailto:winstonp...@gmail.com wrote:
So wait, the tool's aren't final, but the runtime is?

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Nick Randolph 
n...@builttoroam.commailto:n...@builttoroam.com wrote:
Note that this is RC2 for the Visual Studio tools. It's actually RTW for 
Silverlight 4 itself!

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-Original Message-
From: 

RE: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)

2010-04-15 Thread Scott Barnes
It's cool huh. I used to use this a lot when i was in Microsoft as given i used 
to dogfood a lot of software for the company it just paid to have VHD instances 
ready to be used at a moments notice and nuked with equal guilt free.. as i 
often would keep my primary Win7 build as the clean don't install, pure build

Then clone this build, use it as my variety of instance builds etc. I then 
would get into the habit of keeping documents, source code etc on D: which was 
my original Win7 instance..that way should i have to put an axe through a 
VS2010 RC build that's gone south, its not a case of Did i back the music, 
sourcecode, artwork etc up..answer is Yes, as all use it

I also am starting to use it now for customers that i visit onsite. In that if 
the customer needs me to configure my laptop to suite their environment i 
new-up an instance and call it CustomerXYZ - Win7 and then archive it for 
when i next re-visit them etc ..that way its set to the exact settings before 
and after i leave and not impact my personal setups...

I did it via the old skool command prompt, but if you find a tool let me know. 
as i'd be keen to automate this more.




From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of 
carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au [carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 3:32 PM
To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: VHDs in Windows 7 (was RE: Silverlight 4)

OMG.  I had no idea you could do native boots on VHDs in Windows 7.  I still 
can’t pick my jaw up from the floor.

Scott: Are there any tools that let you do this easily setup VHDs for boot or 
is it all done through the command line (Diskpart etc)?

Carl.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes 
scott.bar...@readify.net
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:29 PM
To: ozSilverlight ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

Jordan: I ended up created 3x VHD's that i do native boots on.

VHD1 - VS2008 (SL3/EXPR3)
VHD2 - VS2010 (RC)
VHD3 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXPR 4 RC

then i'll create a VHD4
VHD4 - VS2010 RTW + SL4 RTW + EXP4 RTW

I use a base VHD with everything but Microsoft tools installed (CS4, Office etc)

Go Win7! :)


From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight 
[jordan.kni...@readify.net]
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 1:06 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

A gotcha worth pointing out when going to VS2010 and developing for Azure with 
Silverlight and WCF RIA Services: The 2010 version of WCF RIA Services can't 
run on 3.5... So I've been re-isntalling WRS as I switch projects.

Nothing major - its a 2 mins install...

Anyone have an tips on having them both on the machine at once?

Probably should just build a VS08 VPC :)

Jordan.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of John OBrien 
[j...@soulsolutions.com.au]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 1:02 PM
To: 'ozSilverlight'
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4
Great post from Tim explaining it all: 
http://timheuer.com/blog/archive/2010/04/15/download-silverlight-4-released.aspx

Also he confirmed that VS2010 can multi target SL3 and SL4 so that is what I’ll 
be playing with on the weekend. Looks like RIA services for SL3 is the only 
problematic piece of the puzzle.

John.

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:07 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4

+ It'll be done when it's done. It's good that we can use it before it's done :)

From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Nick Randolph 
[n...@builttoroam.com]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 12:02 PM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: RE: Silverlight 4
Right, so you’d prefer to wait for longer to get Silverlight 4 until all the 
designer bits are final, rather than get Silverlight 4 today h I know 
what I’d prefer.

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From: ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com 
[mailto:ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Winston Pang
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 11:55 AM
To: ozSilverlight
Subject: Re: Silverlight 4

Pooo :( I just wish they would just release it all at once, bit sick