Re: RE: Failed to invoke: Javascript function

2011-11-29 Thread Jonathan Parker
Try

HtmlPage.Window.Alert("Test");

as per this thread http://forums.silverlight.net/t/211409.aspx/1

On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Greg Keogh  wrote:

> >Maybe there is a javascript error on the page causing problems.
>
> I don’t see one in the browser. I’ve tried running the SL4 app in debug
> and non-debug modes but I get no extra information from anywhere, just the
> same “Failed to Invoke” error. No helpful diagnostic information is
> anywhere that I can find via any trick I can think of so far.
>
> Even if the JavaScript function doesn’t exist I get the same error.
> InvalidOperationException is all I get and nothing else to help me, so it’s
> not even getting as far as the browser. It’s like a typical security
> roadblock, but there are no hints that it is one in this case. This is just
> a perfectly normal SL4 app with no “weird” things happening, it’s just
> calls a WCF service to send XML back and forth and that’s all working fine.
> 
>
> I will now compare the html an scripts generated by the VS2010 wizard and
> my live ones.
>
> Greg 
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Re: can i please unsubscribe, thanks

2010-04-14 Thread Jonathan Parker
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Re: Silverlight site.

2010-03-11 Thread Jonathan Parker
Maybe change? The download progress has changed from the default to "Loading
Silverlight Experience" since yesterday.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Darren Neimke wrote:

>  Not really sure what we're trying to achieve with this conversation.
>
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Darren Neimke
> darren.nei...@live.com
> http://2010wave.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>
> --
> Subject: RE: RE: RE: Silverlight site.
> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:23:59 +1000
> From: ross.mckin...@michaelhill.com.au
> To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
>
>
>  I must admit, I was underwhelmed.
>
>
>
> Ross McKinnon
>
>
>
> Michael Hill Jeweller
>
> A: 7 Smallwood Place, Murrarie QLD 4172, Australia
>
> P: +61 7 31663344 M: +61 413 128877 F: +61 7 33990949
>
> E: *ross.mckin...@michaelhill.com.au*
>
>
>
> *From:* carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au [mailto:
> carl.scarl...@bankwest.com.au]
> *Sent:* Friday, 12 March 2010 11:19 AM
> *To:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
> *Subject:* RE: RE: RE: Silverlight site.
>
>
>
> I’d go even further than that.  I’ve never worked for Microsoft so I don’t
> have a feel for the internal political struggles.  My comments are purely as
> a developer.
>
>
>
> History tells us one of Microsoft’s greatest strengths lies in the creation
> and support of developer communities.  From the dawn of (MS) time with
> Geekfest, throughout the monkey-boy Balmer days and until today, Microsoft’s
> mantra has been “developers developers developers developers
> developers...”.  The developer community now has a life of it’s own, yet
> remains a cornerstone of Microsoft’s success.  And Microsoft continues to
> innovate such that the community grows stronger, broader, and can react
> quicker than any other developer community.  It’s an amazing thing to be a
> part of.
>
>
>
> Given all that, it is such a fantastic shame that Microsoft can’t get it
> together (and put the icing on the cake) as far as their developer product
> websites go.  Somehow during the design of these sites, the message seems to
> become lost that developers are wonderful craftsmen and women with an
> insatiable desire for technical detail.  It’s the ultimate let-down that we
> can’t point to a Microsoft showcase site and say “this is what it’s all
> about”; instead we are ignore these dungheap sites Microsoft deploy every
> now and again and focus back inwards to our communities a little embarrassed
> by it all.
>
>
>
> I’m a proud Microsoft developer and I do love the company.  But websites
> like this take a little bit of the shine off my pride when I know it could
> be just that much better.
>
>
>
> Hopefully this hasn’t been the ramblings of old hand.  I will continue to
> love the company, and hope for the day I can come out as such.
>
>
>
> My opinions are my own yadda yadda yadda,
>
> Carl.
>
>
>
> *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
> ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Scott Barnes <
> scott.bar...@readify.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, 11 March 2010 11:50 PM
> *To:* ozSilverlight 
> *Subject:* RE: RE: RE: Silverlight site.
>
>
>
> My vote is to fold mscom/expression and mscom/silverlight into
> Silverlight.NET
>
>
>
> Tim is touching only the tip of the iceberg, as having 4 sites all talking
> about the same thing is just counter-productive and it kind of makes me
> chuckle a bit as given the problem of XAML was to ensure both sides of the
> isle (developer <-> designer) collaborate. Yet the first thing Microsoft
> does is segregate the audiences? J It retards the potential for skill
> pollination (teach devs to design, and devs teach design to code etc) and if
> anything all it really does is bolster internal political and egos within
> (currently 4 factions duking it out over ownership rights :D)
>
>
>
> Now the stark reality is most sites in Microsoft only follow a typical
> quantitative analysis for their given sites, which is essentially a
> popularity contest in terms of traffic. Yet, the closer i looked at the data
> the more I saw nobody was really doing a qualitative analysis as had they
> done that, they'd see about 80% of the sites are actually utter failures and
> are offering zero value to their consumer base J
>
>
>
> "..as long as the graphs keep ascending to the upper right, it's no
> questions asked..."
>
>
>
> Silverlight.NET is really the only site that has value, the rest are just
> mediocrity being celebrated out loud.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
> ozsilverlight-boun...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Tim Heuer
> *Sent:* Friday, March 12, 2010 1:40 AM
> *To:* ozSilverlight
> *Subject:* RE: RE: RE: Silverlight site.
>
>
>
> Welcome to the world of MSFT ;-0
>
>
>
> Microsof.com/ are usually ‘marketing’ sites – displaying
> decision-maker information and case studies, etc.
>
> Silverlight.net serves as a developer community resources: forums, learning
> resources, samples, etc. -- **for developers**
>
>
>
> -th
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Re: The verboseness of Visibility

2010-03-11 Thread Jonathan Parker
That would make sense. Hidden I assume means that all the events such as
button clicks, hover, etc. are still fired whereas with collapsed this isn't
possible.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Vishwanath Humpy wrote:

> I think it must be due to compatibility with WPF.  WPF has an additional
> value for Visibility called "Hidden" which can be useful as the UI element
> retains it's dimensions.
>
> The weird thing is that Silverlight doesn't have "Hidden" I think.  I don't
> find the need for a converter a problem.  You code it once and job done.
>
>
> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 03:56:20 +0530 wrote
>
> >Hi all,
> >
> >Does anyone else get annoyed at the extra hastle required to set and bind
> the Visibility property?
> >
> >I mean, how easy was it in the "old days" to simply set IsVisible=true or
> IsVisible=false? You didn't
> >need a Visibility to Bool converter, which is extra unneccessary
> processing, and an extra point of
> >failure if it's forgotten, and more text to make mistakes.
> >
> >I mean, come on, there are only two states. There will never be a third
> state. Instead of writing in
> >my code:
> >
> >TermTextBox.IsVisible = MyBoolVar;
> >
> >I have to write something like:
> >TermTextBox.Visibility = (MyBoolVar ? Visibility.Visible
> :Visibility.Collapsed);
> >
> >Does it somehow give it extra contextual meaning for all the extra effort?
> No.
> >
> >Can there be a third state, somehow semi-visible. No - that would be
> handled via an opacity or
> >animation.
> >
> >There is only a single meaning!
> >
> >It's Friday, bring it on!
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Re: The verboseness of Visibility

2010-03-11 Thread Jonathan Parker
Ah, these things always appear simple until you think about them a bit more.

A wild guess but maybe this design is in anticipation that there will be
another value.

Visible
Collapsed
*Invisible*

Collapsed and invisible aren't the same (e.g. An invisible cardboard box and
a collapsed one are different. The invisible one still takes up the same
space as the visible one while the collapsed one doesn't take up any space).

This illustrates my point.








btn2 takes up no space as it is collapsed while btn3 is invisible but still
takes up space.

So at the moment Invisible can be achieved by setting the Opacity to 0 but
in the future they may add another value to the enum for this.

My 2c.

On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Mark  wrote:

> Yeah, I've thought about this too. I use a converter and so the View Model
> can just use a bool, but it does seem like an unnecessary step.
>
> -Original Message-
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> ton...@tpg.com.au
> Sent: Friday, 12 March 2010 11:31 a.m.
> To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
> Subject: The verboseness of Visibility
>
> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone else get annoyed at the extra hastle required to set and bind
> the Visibility property?
>
> I mean, how easy was it in the "old days" to simply set IsVisible=true or
> IsVisible=false? You didn't
> need a Visibility to Bool converter, which is extra unneccessary
> processing,
> and an extra point of
> failure if it's forgotten, and more text to make mistakes.
>
> I mean, come on, there are only two states. There will never be a third
> state. Instead of writing in
> my code:
>
> TermTextBox.IsVisible = MyBoolVar;
>
> I have to write something like:
> TermTextBox.Visibility = (MyBoolVar ? Visibility.Visible :
> Visibility.Collapsed);
>
> Does it somehow give it extra contextual meaning for all the extra effort?
> No.
>
> Can there be a third state, somehow semi-visible. No - that would be
> handled
> via an opacity or
> animation.
>
> There is only a single meaning!
>
> It's Friday, bring it on!
>
> Regards,
> Tony
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Re: Silverlight site.

2010-03-10 Thread Jonathan Parker
Doesn't work in Chrome 4.
Navigation is broken.
They should have customised the loading animation.

On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Scott Barnes wrote:

>  http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight
>
> has been  updated.
>
>
>
> Thoughts? (i.e. i had nothing to do with it so unload good/bad)
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Re: Data visualisation spare time project – Reques t for feedback

2010-03-09 Thread Jonathan Parker
Great stuff!

A suggestion. Maybe for the country that is selected you could make the
circle filled or animated (like a give it a shiny gloss) so that it stands
out.
I played the timeline while selecting a country but the information box
isn't well linked to the circle visually even though it is surrounded by an
extra yellow circle it didn't stand out that well maybe because there are
other yellow circles too.

Also I had the mouse over the timeline so the X-axis label was hidden. It
took me a while to find it!
When it stops playing at the end you could change the play button to a
replay button.

It might be good to make the "international region section" button always
visible if the panel is open so it's easy to close.

Might be nice to be able to select two or more countries and have a line
drawn between them to see the difference (maybe even an option to hide other
countries).

I haven't read the help but the concept of clicking on an area of the screen
is great. Contextual help is rare these days be invaluable.

On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Vishwanath Humpy wrote:

> Looks great.  Lucky it isn't 1832 or I would probably be dead already and
> not able to give feedback.
>
> Maybe when you hover over a circle it could give some feedback that it can
> be clicked, eg a hand cursor or highlight.   I didn't realise I could click
> something until I tried.
>
> I suppose you could easily add an option to zoom, which might be good if
> plotting a lot of points.  Otherwise it might be hard to find the right
> circle to click on.
>
> On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:22:06 +0530 wrote
>
> >
>
> Dear List,
>
>
>
> I am looking for some feedback on my current spare time project, which is
> starting to get to the point that I can show it to people...
>
>
>
> This is a data visualisation project based on the work done by Hans Rosling
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Rosling)
> and the people at GapMinder.org.
>
>
>
> You can see Hans present on (the flash version of) the chart at
> http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/hans_rosling_reveals_new_insights_on_poverty.html.
>
>
>
>
> My Silverlight version of the chart can be seen at
> http://www.eshiftlog.com/Silverlight/MotionGraphTestPage.html
> .
>
>
>
> I stress that this is still a work in progress, so I am not looking for bug
> reports; I am more looking for statements like “it would be real cool if you
> did xyz with the chart”.  OK if you see a real blunder let me know :-).
>
>
>
> Please feel free to send me specific suggestions off the list to my email
> at 
> harris.gre...@gmail.comand
>  more generic messages that would benefit all of us on the list.
>
>
>
> Because the concept being presented is complex, I am thinking that the next
> task is to add an audio track to explain the chart to the viewer.
>
>
>
> By the way, a big thank-you to all of the people who have given me feedback
> to date, it has been really helpful!
>
>
>
> All the best
>
> Greg Harris
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Re: unsubscribe

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Re: SEO in SL3

2009-07-13 Thread Jonathan Parker
>From what I gather it's basically saying that by using dynamic data with
hyperlinks to an asp.net page that has your silverlight app on it you can do
SEO+deep linking with SL3.

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:14 PM, Ross Jempson <
ross.jemp...@michaelhill.com.au> wrote:

>  I am investigating how to best do SEO in SL3.
>
>
>
> I have seen the following quoted 100’s of times all over the web, but none
> of the authors  have elaborated on the specifics :
>
>
>
> “By utilizing business objects on the server, together with ASP.NETcontrols 
> and site maps, users can automatically mirror database-driven RIA
> content into HTML that is easily indexed by the leading search engines.”
>
>
>
> Does anyone know of any resources that elaborate on such techniques?
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Re: SilverZine - Silverlight designer resource

2009-04-21 Thread Jonathan Parker
First off this is an awesome site that really is a good example of how to
integrate SL into a site IMO.
Having said that, lets make it better...

1. Will you be providing all the content? If so Wow! If not will it be an
aggregation or will people be able to sign up and post tutorials?
2. The side bar is should be further to the right and or thinner. It's
squashing the content. Remember that that's what the site is all about.
3. Make the "Hi there and welcome" on the home page a bigger font size. I
didn't read it on the first go as it was the same as all the other content
such as the side bar. This is the elevator pitch so it needs to stand out
for first timers.
4. Make the menu link for current page different so you know what page
you're on. You need to add a different background color for the selectedli
css class.

Good luck.
Jonathan.

On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Scott Barnes wrote:

>  I visited the site and I was meet with a warm fuzzy feeling of
> greatness..
>
>
>
> For ye hath inspired me..
>
>
>
> Now to divert the world to the site……..where did I put that switch that
> re-routes people from MSDN to this…
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
> ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Price
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:06 AM
> *To:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
> *Subject:* Re: SilverZine - Silverlight designer resource
>
>
>
> This is an awful site. It's horrible. It makes me feel inadequate in so
> many ways. Are you intentionally trying to make me feel bad about my design
> skills? I'm now questioning myself - am I a designer or a developer? or
> neither?
>
>
>
> nah just kidding. :)
>
> Good work, you should be proud of yourself! I'll make sure to give it a
> plug at the Perth SDDN meeting tomorrow evening.
>
>
>
> cheers,
>
> Stephen
>
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Alex Knight <
> alex.kni...@objectify.com.au> wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> The other day I launched a new site dedicated to designers (and developers
> looking for tips) working with Silverlight.
>
>
>
> http://www.silverzine.com
>
>
>
> Would love to get some feedback and I’m always on the lookout if anyone
> would be interested in contributing, so if you have any ideas, shoot me an
> email either through the site or on here.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Alex
>
> AGKDesign.net
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Re: Memory and bindings

2009-04-11 Thread Jonathan Parker
This link might help.

http://silverlight.net/forums/p/72532/175206.aspx

Here's the google cache in case you don't want to login:

http://72.14.235.132/search?q=cache:rulOy4_nwlgJ:silverlight.net/forums/p/72532/175206.aspx+silverlight+observable+collection+memory&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=au&client=firefox-a



On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Stephen Price wrote:

> Hi All,
> I've noticed a strange problem, I've got a search happening where it
> returns a collection to me via WCF service. I put the results into an
> ObservableCollection in my ViewModel class. If I do another search and
> another, the memory usage keeps going up each time. (I'm using Silverlight
> Spy to show the memory usage).
>
> I remember reading about bindings holding onto objects but can't find
> anything. Anyone come across this before?
>
> thanks,
> Stephen
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Re: SDDN Training day in Adelaide and meetings in Perth, Melbourne and Sydney

2009-04-02 Thread Jonathan Parker
http://www.acs.org.au/index.cfm?action=event&area=9005&temID=eventdetails&eveID=10133342778230

On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Asheesh Soni  wrote:

> Haven't been to previous SDDN meets is there any registration required?
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 6:27 PM, Miguel Madero  wrote:
> > Wow that's great :)
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Re: Toolbox Treeview control

2009-03-27 Thread Jonathan Parker
Just a guess but maybe you have to set the SelectedValuePath property.

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 2:17 AM, Stephen Price wrote:

> Has anyone had a good play with the Treeview control in the Silverlight
> Toolkit? I can't seem to figure out how to easily deselect all nodes.
> I tried looping through all nodes and setting IsSelected to false but it
> didn't seem to work.
>
> thanks :)
>
> Stephen
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Deep Zoom on the Age website

2009-03-27 Thread Jonathan Parker
Apologies if this is old news.

http://www.theage.com.au/interactive/2009/sport/f1/silverlight.html

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Re: Blend 3

2009-03-20 Thread Jonathan Parker
In that case it might be bundled with VS2010. It would be good to have the
tools and framework aligned.

2009/3/21 Perry Stathopoulos 

>  The only thing I heard, is that it will be released before the end of
> year 2009.
>
>  *From:* .net noobie 
> *Sent:* Friday, March 20, 2009 8:54 PM
> *To:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
> *Subject:* Re: Blend 3
>
> anyone heard any rumors when SL 3 will be released?
>
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Jonas Follesø  wrote:
>
>> They already exist - three nicely looking "hand drawn" themes for
>> prototyping.
>>
>> http://www.nikhilk.net/Silverlight-Themes.aspx
>>
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/corrinab/archive/2008/03/24/a-new-control-skin-set.aspx
>>
>> - Jonas
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Gilbert Corrales 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> yeah, not shipping SketchFlow after last night's demo was a bummer, it
>>> was just like Adobe when they showed FC for the first time...
>>>
>>> but of well I guess at least maybe someone could come up with a theme for
>>> the wireframe like controls... then maybe we could have a reason to do
>>> interactive prototypes with code ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Perry Stathopoulos 
>>> wrote:
>>>
  I installed Blend 3 and you can have it side-by-side with Blend 2. I
 uninstalled it however, because I wanted to try out the SketchFlow which is
 not included in the preview of Blend 3 yet [image: Sad smile emoticon].


  *From:* Gilbert Corrales 
 *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:36 AM
 *To:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
 *Subject:* Re: Blend 3

 I don't know though if I you can have Blend 3 running side by side with
 Blend 2... from the early versions that I tried of Blend 3 no... but who
 knows maybe things have changed a bit since.


  On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:33 PM, Stephen Price <
 step...@perthprojects.com> wrote:

> Thanks for that.
> Shame that, guess I'll have to set it up on another machine. Didn't we
> go through this pain when they introduced .net 2.0. Wasn't sorted out 
> until
> you could target a framework. *sigh*
>
>  On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Gilbert Corrales <
> gcorra...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> in the release notes says that if u open a SL2 project with Blend 3 it
>> will automatically upgrade the project to SL3 and this cannot be undone, 
>> so
>> if u want to keep editing SL2 project u will have to do so using Blend 2.
>>
>> I installed and there are only 2 options to projects SL3 or WPF.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> G.
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:27 PM, Stephen Price <
>> step...@littlevoices.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone installed Blend 3 yet and tried to edit a Silverlight 2.0
>>> project? I'm wondering if installing Blend 3 would allow me to
>>> continue developing on a Silverlight 2.0 project or if its an all or 
>>> nothing
>>> thing going to Silverlight 3.0.
>>>
>>> From what I've read you can't have both with regards to the SDK and
>>> tools for VS but not sure on Blend.
>>>
>>> thx,
>>> Stephen
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Re: missing wcf service calls

2009-03-03 Thread Jonathan Parker
It really depends on your service configuration.

I'm not sure exactly what the issue is but it's 99% likely a
configuration issue.

Check out the docs on concurrency and sessions here:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms731193.aspx

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Stephen Price  wrote:
> Hmm...
> I've just put a Debug.Writeln message after every one of my service calls
> and it's not doing it now. (tried 10 times, it was doing it around 1 in 3
> times before). Is it possible I was calling too fast?
> I have a number of controls, each with its own local Instance of the client.
> Could one client be clashing with another client in a different usercontrol?
> I assumed it would be ok to use a Servicereference like that?
> client = new ServiceReference.ServicesClient(binding, new
> EndpointAddress(App.ServiceUrl));
> client.GetDropDownItemsAsync();
> each control gets the dropdown items it's interested in.
> I'm not closing the client either (should I be explicitly closing the
> client? I read that it wasn't necessary...)
>
> cheers,
> Stephen
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Jonathan Parker
>  wrote:
>>
>> The only thing I can think of is that subsequent calls are canceling
>> the previous calls.
>> Have you tried putting print statements before/after each service call
>> in the client?
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Stephen Price 
>> wrote:
>> > Hey all,
>> > I'm making a series of wcf service calls to populate a number of
>> > comboboxes
>> > and have noticed that quite often a number of them don't seem to be
>> > getting
>> > called. It seems fairly random. I'm making 9 calls and using fiddler I
>> > can
>> > see that all the services that are called are being returned. I've put
>> > some
>> > debug.writeln's into the Reference.cs file to make sure they are being
>> > hit
>> > and as far as I can tell its all working.
>> > Any ideas how I can further figure out what's going on here?
>> > For example, the code below from my Reference.cs;
>> > base.InvokeAsync(this.onBeginGetExerciseEquipmentDelegate, new object[]
>> > {
>> >                         session},
>> > this.onEndGetExerciseEquipmentDelegate,
>> > this.onGetExerciseEquipmentCompletedDelegate, userState);
>> > Debug.WriteLine("Internal Call of Get Equipment hit");
>> > I'm seeing the debug message appear in the output but sometimes fiddler
>> > doesn't see the response (or the request). Its as if the call is being
>> > lost
>> > before sending it. It seems fairly random which service call is missed,
>> > and
>> > it happens on my machine, and when I pull it down from the beta server.
>> > cheers,
>> > Stephen
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Re: missing wcf service calls

2009-03-03 Thread Jonathan Parker
The only thing I can think of is that subsequent calls are canceling
the previous calls.
Have you tried putting print statements before/after each service call
in the client?

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Stephen Price  wrote:
> Hey all,
> I'm making a series of wcf service calls to populate a number of comboboxes
> and have noticed that quite often a number of them don't seem to be getting
> called. It seems fairly random. I'm making 9 calls and using fiddler I can
> see that all the services that are called are being returned. I've put some
> debug.writeln's into the Reference.cs file to make sure they are being hit
> and as far as I can tell its all working.
> Any ideas how I can further figure out what's going on here?
> For example, the code below from my Reference.cs;
> base.InvokeAsync(this.onBeginGetExerciseEquipmentDelegate, new object[] {
>                         session}, this.onEndGetExerciseEquipmentDelegate,
> this.onGetExerciseEquipmentCompletedDelegate, userState);
> Debug.WriteLine("Internal Call of Get Equipment hit");
> I'm seeing the debug message appear in the output but sometimes fiddler
> doesn't see the response (or the request). Its as if the call is being lost
> before sending it. It seems fairly random which service call is missed, and
> it happens on my machine, and when I pull it down from the beta server.
> cheers,
> Stephen
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Re: Silverlight reach on Mobile devices

2009-03-02 Thread Jonathan Parker
Well my opinion is that the thing holding back SL is deep browser
integration. It would be nice to get the browser right click menu for
links. I know you can do html overlay or whatever but it's just too
much work IMO. I don't have any specifics on mobile support ATM.

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Scott Barnes  wrote:
> I want to tell you what I know and see, but can't as it's a little early to 
> discuss so I'm sworn to the usual "mums the word" on this one. The moment we 
> are allowed to provide a more detailed roadmap that answers some of the below 
> questions I'll make sure this list gets a good healthy heads up.
>
> Until then, discuss away and feel free to "wish-list" this thread to death, 
> as I am taking notes.
>
> -
> Scott Barnes
> Rich Platforms Product Manager
> Microsoft.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com 
> [mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jordan Knight
> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 3:27 PM
> To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
> Subject: RE: Silverlight reach on Mobile devices
>
> It's actually XAML on mobile desktop that I'm more interested in...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com 
> [mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Ross McKinnon
> Sent: Monday, 2 March 2009 10:23 AM
> To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
> Subject: RE: Silverlight reach on Mobile devices
>
> If you can write SL apps in C#, you can write a WM6 app. It's a quite
> simple migration. The issue with symbian operating system is the native
> C++ which is so foreign to us in the modern business world. Having a
> powerful cross operating system platform that will work on all mobile
> operating system that fits in with the microsoft programming framework
> is something we should be heading for.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jordan Knight [mailto:jordan.kni...@readify.net]
> Sent: Monday, 2 March 2009 9:16 AM
> To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
> Subject: RE: Silverlight reach on Mobile devices
>
> Perhaps if there are two hosts through, one that runs on desktop as a
> full app and one that runs in browser...
>
> Would be so cool to write SL apps on WM desktop (means I could write a
> mobile app)
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
> [mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Ross McKinnon
> Sent: Monday, 2 March 2009 10:14 AM
> To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
> Subject: RE: Silverlight reach on Mobile devices
>
> Jordan,
>
> Obviously it would be require some degree of protection and potentially
> open to malicous coders, but so are all applications that you can
> download onto your phone. It would require signing of the sites or
> something etc...
>
> It's the old battle between potential vs protection.
>
>
> Ross.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jordan Knight [mailto:jordan.kni...@readify.net]
> Sent: Monday, 2 March 2009 9:06 AM
> To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
> Subject: RE: Silverlight reach on Mobile devices
>
> Depends on if it runs hosted in the browser or some other SL host...
>
> I'd not want my IMEI being posted from a random web app or sidebar ad...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
> [mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Ross McKinnon
> Sent: Monday, 2 March 2009 10:04 AM
> To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
> Subject: RE: Silverlight reach on Mobile devices
>
> I am sure in the future of mobile devices, one platform that is derived
> off C# will be of great importance.
>
> I am curious though whether SL will have access to the hardware device
> will be available (ie imei number, device ID and other functions of the
> phone).
>
>
> Ross.
>
> -----Original Message-
> From: Jordan Knight [mailto:jordan.kni...@readify.net]
> Sent: Monday, 2 March 2009 8:57 AM
> To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
> Subject: RE: Silverlight reach on Mobile devices
>
> Bragging rights?? :P
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
> [mailto:ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Parker
> Sent: Monday, 2 March 2009 9:55 AM
> To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
> Subject: Re: Silverlight reach on Mobile devices
>
> Sorry. I accidentally hit the send button.
>
> I heard in a video (can't remember where) that the mobile team are keen
> to sync up with the desktop team with their releases of SL so maybe 3.0
> will have both, though I'm not sure about the usefulness of HD video on
> a phone!
>
> On Mon, Mar 

Re: Silverlight reach on Mobile devices

2009-03-01 Thread Jonathan Parker
Sorry. I accidentally hit the send button.

I heard in a video (can't remember where) that the mobile team are
keen to sync up with the desktop team with their releases of SL so
maybe 3.0 will have both, though I'm not sure about the
usefulness of HD video on a phone!

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Jonathan Parker
 wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Steven Berry
>  wrote:
>> Hi Jonathan,
>>
>> With all of Mobile 6.5 information coming out and Mix with Silverlight 3 
>> I've noticed Silverlight mobile taken a back seat at the moment.
>>
>> Fingers crossed we get to see this at Mix.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jonathan Parker [mailto:jonathanparkerem...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, 2 March 2009 9:49 AM
>> To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
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>>
>> Still in private beta: http://silverlight.net/learn/mobile.aspx
>>
>> However I wouldn't be surprised to see something at Mix about it.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:39 AM,   wrote:
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>>> the Silverlight 'reach' on mobile devices?
>>>
>>>
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Re: Silverlight reach on Mobile devices

2009-03-01 Thread Jonathan Parker
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Steven Berry
 wrote:
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> With all of Mobile 6.5 information coming out and Mix with Silverlight 3 I've 
> noticed Silverlight mobile taken a back seat at the moment.
>
> Fingers crossed we get to see this at Mix.
>
> Steve
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jonathan Parker [mailto:jonathanparkerem...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, 2 March 2009 9:49 AM
> To: ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
> Subject: Re: Silverlight reach on Mobile devices
>
> Still in private beta: http://silverlight.net/learn/mobile.aspx
>
> However I wouldn't be surprised to see something at Mix about it.
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:39 AM,   wrote:
>> Hi all... I'm going to show my ignorance here (what's new ) but... what is
>> the Silverlight 'reach' on mobile devices?
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Darren Neimke - Microsoft MVP
>> darren.nei...@live.com
>>
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Re: Silverlight reach on Mobile devices

2009-03-01 Thread Jonathan Parker
Still in private beta: http://silverlight.net/learn/mobile.aspx

However I wouldn't be surprised to see something at Mix about it.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:39 AM,   wrote:
> Hi all... I'm going to show my ignorance here (what's new ) but... what is
> the Silverlight 'reach' on mobile devices?
>
>
> Kind Regards,
>
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> darren.nei...@live.com
>
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Re: Animations and threads

2009-02-18 Thread Jonathan Parker
SL wcf proxies are asyc only due to not wanting to lock the UI which
means that my first guess would be that the animation is using a
background thread as well (under the hood) which is the same thread as
the wcf (under the hood) thread for detecting a response.

It doesn't make sense that the wcf call would block the UI as that's
the whole reason for having async calls.

Is the animation stopping or just stuttering? It may be a thread
polling for a response from the service which is blocking the
animation.

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Stephen Price  wrote:
> Hey all
> I've notices some of my animations are not running smoothly and it
> seems to happen when I make wcf service calls. The call is asyc
> judging by it's name and callback but it would appear to be blocking
> the ui thread.
> From memory I've hit this before in the past when I was working with
> SPF and I think I used a background worker to kick the work off on
> it's own thread but that doesn't seem right for an asyc wcf service
> call?
> Anyone come across this before? If I comment out the service call the
> animation works fine. (it's a busy/loading/waiting type animation that
> I want to run until the callback is called when the results come back.
> Ta
> Stephen
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Re: Multiple Attachment(s) ASP.NET 2.0

2009-02-06 Thread Jonathan Parker
You need to cast to HttpPostedFile

http://dotnetslackers.com/articles/aspnet/Upload_multiple_files_using_the_HtmlInputFile_control.aspx

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Miguel Madero  wrote:

> Is SL an option? If so you can use the FileUploader and even do some
> manipulation at the client side, like compress, resize or crop images,
> then zip them all and send everything.
>
> To do that on ASP.NET/HTML I think you need to change the type of the
> form.
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Muhammad Niaz
>  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I want to upload unlimited file(s) as attachment as Google, yahoo do.
> Using
> > asp.net 2.5.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > What I have done,:
> >
> >
> >
> > · Tried to add controls at runtime on page but no success, when
> page
> > come on server the server lost them why.?
> >
> > · Using java script I have added unlimited {input type=file} on
> the
> > client side, but server dot know them. Why.? Although it show in Watch
> but
> > as string type.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Any solution please
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -N
> >
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Re: Selft Join

2009-02-05 Thread Jonathan Parker
Have you tried the Include method?

http://weblogs.asp.net/zeeshanhirani/archive/2008/07/03/eager-loading-self-referencing-table-in-linq-to-sql.aspx

I haven't played with this much on L2S, but in the EF there is a similar
limitation in that it can't just perform an arbitrarily deep recursive query
for you or even let you specify a number of levels deep that you'd like it
to go.

That said, this is a bit easier in EF than the kind of code you wrote above
for L2S.  With the EF you can just specify however many levels you would
like in your Include string.

So, if you had an example like yours above with a Category entity which has
a Categories set containing nested categories, and if you wanted to go up to
5 levels deep, then you could just do something like this:

foreach (var category in
ctx.Categories.Include("Categories.Categories.Categories.Categories"))

{

// do something

}

This would load the top level categories as well as up to 4 more levels
underneath them.  Of course you do have to keep in mind that this would
produce a single, potentially very large query to return all the results.
 So I would recommend perf testing it to decide if you want this approach or
if you want to manually write multiple smaller queries...

- Danny

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Muhammad Niaz  wrote:

>  Parker,
>
> Basically I am using a table with self join, like Employee table, which
> also have a column of BossId( in my case parented).
>
> Although it's very simple using SQL or LINQ, but I am bound due to *.edmx
> file (image attached) Entity Framework etc. Under Navigation properties
> ProgressNoteType1 is parent Object.
>
>
>
>
>
> Understand.?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> Rregards,
>
> -N
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Jonathan Parker [mailto:jonathanparkerem...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, February 06, 2009 11:14 AM
> *To:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
> *Subject:* Re: Selft Join
>
>
>
> Please elaborate.
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Muhammad Niaz <
> muhammad.n...@sigmatec.com.pk> wrote:
>
> PFA,
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>  Can anybody help me in this regards, Here is the scenario,
>
> I have a table, with Id, Description, ParentId, (selft join). i want to get
> the records using Entity Framework and LINQ query.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks in Advance.
>
> Niaz
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Re: Selft Join

2009-02-05 Thread Jonathan Parker
Please elaborate.

On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Muhammad Niaz  wrote:

>  PFA,
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>  Can anybody help me in this regards, Here is the scenario,
>
> I have a table, with Id, Description, ParentId, (selft join). i want to get
> the records using Entity Framework and LINQ query.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks in Advance.
>
> Niaz
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Re: Silverlight Reporting apps

2009-02-05 Thread Jonathan Parker
You can use Entity framework with Oracle as well to write your web service:
http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/dataspace/dav/wiki/Main/VirtAdoNet35Provider


On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Caleb Jenkins <
caleb.jenk...@improvingenterprises.com> wrote:

>  Bruce,
>
>
>
> You should look at the charting a in the Silvelright Control Toolkit (
> http://codeplex.com/silverlight)
>
> Silverlight applications don't have direct access to any back end databases
> (SQL Server or Oracle). So the database will have to sit behind some sort of
> access layer (typically a WCF Service or ADO.NET Data Services). You
> should be able to use the same concepts found on
> http://silverlight.net/learn for accessing SQL data and apply them to your
> Oracle database. Silverlight doesn't care about the specific database
> because it can't "talk" directly to it anyways.
>
>
>
> HTH!
>
> * *
>
> *Caleb Jenkins*
>
> *Principal Consultant, Microsoft MVP, INETA National Speaker*
>
> *mobile:** 469.867.4552 | **blog:** 
> http://developingUX.com|
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>
>
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>
>
> *From:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
> ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Bruce Hopkins
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 05, 2009 5:20 PM
> *To:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
> *Subject:* Silverlight Reporting apps
>
>
>
> Does anyone know of any open source or demo type apps to show how to create
> a reporting application with a Silverlight frontend that pulls data from an
> Oracle backend? I've got a little idea I want to play around with a bit and
> some examples may be useful.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Bruce Hopkins
>
> 770-528-4574
>
> Director Information Systems
>
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Re: video player

2009-01-31 Thread Jonathan Parker
Surely debugging would have found that as the URL would have been empty.

On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Stephen Price wrote:

> Gah!!
> I found the problem and yes it was a stupid mistake.
> I forgot to remove the
> this.RootVisual = new Page();
> at the end of my Application_Startup, the default one that's there. So
> essentially it was all working right except it was the loading the default
> page with no parameters. I'm using the paremeters to pass in the url so
> thats why it couldnt find the url.
>
> kicking myself for not finding it a bit sooner but now I can move on!
> *bangs head against wall as punishment*
>
> cheers,
> Stephen
>
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 11:56 AM, .net noobie wrote:
>
>> yes in the example it does, I just did it as a test to make sure I
>> remembered correctly
>> I also the same issues along time ago
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Stephen Price 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Wouldn't that download the whole video and then set the source on
>>> completion?
>>> I want to stream it from the web server.
>>> I'll have a look at set source, thanks.
>>> On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 8:59 PM, .net noobie wrote:
>>>
 this is just a sample to show how I did a test
 you might want to look at the "SetSource"

  SetSource(MediaStreamSource) This sets the source of a MediaElement to
 a subclass of MediaStreamSource.

 SetSource(Stream) Sets the Source property using the supplied stream.


  public partial class Page : UserControl

 {

 private WebClient wc;



 public Page()

 {

 InitializeComponent();



 set1.Click += set1_Click;

 set2.Click += set2_Click;

 }



 private void set1_Click(object sender, RoutedEventArgs e)

 {

 wc = new WebClient();

 wc.OpenReadCompleted += wc_OpenReadCompleted;

 wc.OpenReadAsync(new Uri("media/one.wmv", UriKind.Relative));

 }



 private void set2_Click(object sender, RoutedEventArgs e)

 {

 wc = new WebClient();

 wc.OpenReadCompleted += wc_OpenReadCompleted;

 wc.OpenReadAsync(new Uri("media/two.wmv", UriKind.Relative));

 }



 private void wc_OpenReadCompleted(object sender, 
 OpenReadCompletedEventArgs e)

 {

 this.MediaPlayer.SetSource(e.Result);

 }

 }



 On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 9:05 PM, Stephen Price <
 step...@littlevoices.com> wrote:

> Hey all,
> I'm going spare here. I've got a simple mediaelement, and when I set
> the source in the xaml it works fine. If I set the source in the 
> codebehind
> it doesn't work. It doesn't even seem to hit the url. (using Fiddler aimed
> at www.somesite.com)
>
> has something changed with Uri's?
>
> I've downloaded Tim Heuer's silverlight 2 media player which works.
> I've copied his code (doesn't work) and put my url into his code (works).
>
>
> Application startup has this;
>
>   if (!string.IsNullOrEmpty(url)) {
> Uri mediaUri;
>
> if (url.Contains("://")) {
> mediaUri = new Uri(url,
> UriKind.RelativeOrAbsolute);
> }
> else {
> mediaUri = new Uri(url, UriKind.Relative);
> }
>
> this.Resources.Add("url", mediaUri);
>
> }
>
>
> and then I put this into page constructor
>
>videoClipPlayer.Source = App.Current.Resources["url"] as Uri;
>
>
> Am I missing something really obvious or obscure here?
>
> cheers,
> Stephen
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Re: Coding Standards

2009-01-26 Thread Jonathan Parker
Check out IDesign.net.

On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Muhammad Niaz <
muhammad.n...@sigmatec.com.pk> wrote:

>  Hi all,
>
>   Can anybody help me about the standard of coding conventions about
> ASP.NET, C#, WSSF. Although I know but I need any kind of recommended by
> MS or blah blah.
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> Thanks in advance.
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> Thanks & Regards,
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Re: Layout controls

2009-01-13 Thread Jonathan Parker
Yeah, I don't know why they didn't add the wrap panel into the core. Maybe
it'll go in in the next release.

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 4:13 AM, Perry Stathopoulos wrote:

>  Hi Stephen,
>
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>
> You should take a look at the Silverlight Toolkit. They offer a WrapPanel
> that should do what you want.
>
> http://www.codeplex.com/Silverlight
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> Perry
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> *From:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
> ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Price
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 13, 2009 9:28 AM
> *To:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
> *Subject:* Re: Layout controls
>
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> Silverlight/XAML?
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> When did they introduce div tags in Xaml? :)
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> I actually like the Grid in silverlight. Your talking about asp.net right?
> (God I hope so)
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> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Corneliu I. Tusnea <
> corneliu.tus...@readify.net> wrote:
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> You should try to use UL/LI's with a div in the LI and have the LI as
> display:inline;
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> You can use a repeater to achieve this quite nicely.
>
> Avoid the grid like the plague.
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>
> Corneliu.
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>
> *From:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
> ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] *On Behalf Of *Stephen Price
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 January 2009 1:10 AM
> *To:* ozsilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
> *Subject:* Layout controls
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>
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> Hey all,
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>
> I want to dynamically add some controls (might be images or buttons, not
> sure yet) to a layout panel so that it dynamically wraps them as you resize
> the browser window. I seem to recall that the Stackpanel does this
> automagically but then realised it doesn't. Perhaps I'm thinking back to
> when I was doing WPF stuff.
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> Is there a control for this or will I need to use a grid and some math to
> pidgeonhole the images into the next available grid cell?
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> cheers,
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> Stephen
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Re: SL in Offline World

2008-12-31 Thread Jonathan Parker
I *think* Shane is talking about Moonlight which is a joint project between
Novell and MS:
>From Scottgu's blog (
http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2007/09/04/silverlight-1-0-released-and-silverlight-for-linux-announced.aspx
 ):

*Silverlight for Linux Support*

Over the last few months we've been working to enable Silverlight support
on Linux, and today we are announcing a formal partnership with Novell to
provide a great Silverlight implementation for Linux.  Microsoft will be
delivering Silverlight Media Codecs for Linux, and Novell will be building a
100% compatible Silverlight runtime implementation called "Moonlight".

Moonlight will run on all Linux distributions, and support FireFox,
Konqueror, and Opera browsers.  Moonlight will support both the JavaScript
programming model available in Silverlight 1.0, as well as the full .NET
programming model we will enable in Silverlight 1.1.  Below is a screen-shot
of the Silverlight 1.1 Flight-Picker
application I
built in my keynote at MIX running on Linux using Moonlight:

On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Miguel Madero  wrote:

> >>the Linux iteration for Silverlight will work the same as it does on
> Windows and Mac, so if you're concerned about API forking, don't be as we
> are focused on ensuring that it maps across the board cleanly.
>
> What's this, when is this coming?
>
>  Miguel A. Madero Reyes
>  www.miguelmadero.com (blog)
>  m...@miguelmadero.com
>  +61 (0) 406-704-161
>  "Please reconsider your environmental responsibility before printing this
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> -Original Message-
> From: OzSilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [mailto:
> ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On Behalf Of Scott Barnes
> Sent: Thursday, 1 January 2009 11:11 AM
> To: OzSilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
> Subject: RE: SL in Offline World
>
> You can use the same approach within Flex Data Services inside Silverlight,
> MidnightCoders have done this with WebORB. If it's something you'd like to
> see in a more packaged focus, then I'm all ears as to the rationale as to
> why.
>
> The Occasionally Connected Client model is a really good story on paper,
> but I've seen it fail so many times over the years in all platforms, that i
> simply caution all. It's an approach that requires deep understanding of the
> mechanics of both deep linking and state management (visual & data). It
> requires all members of your team to understand it's principals clearly and
> above all the most important thing is to get a Usability Designer in place
> at the start, as if you disconnect a person from the main hub of data,
> certain usability principals need to apply here.
>
> Writing your own "am I live protocol" isn't hard btw, many customers in
> Silverlight today have done in a lot, i guess we just need to unearth some
> tutes on how?
>
> the Linux iteration for Silverlight will work the same as it does on
> Windows and Mac, so if you're concerned about API forking, don't be as we
> are focused on ensuring that it maps across the board cleanly.
>
> Scott.
>
>
> 
> From: OzSilverlight@ozsilverlight.com [ozsilverli...@ozsilverlight.com] On
> Behalf Of Barry Beattie [barry.beat...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 31 December 2008 12:48 AM
> To: OzSilverlight@ozsilverlight.com
> Subject: Re: SL in Offline World
>
> > While we've detoured on to Flex, are you aware of any ORMs running in
> > AS3?
>
> I've used the codegen in Flexbuilder a few times, it's not bad in
> creating value objects, and DTO's to your chosen platform, as well as
> middleware mapping between client and server, but it's not a true ORM.
> Not sure what MidnightCoders can offer there talking back to a .NET
> backend.
>
> AS3 isn't really designed to directly connect to a database anyway,
> without writing the whole thing using the AS3 sockets library (meh,
> not enough hours in the day). Flash's whole bag is to be a user
> interface, not an application in itself, and to connect and
> communicate with a defined API on the server. The rest is left up to
> the middlewhere.
>
> the exception there is the SQLite libraries in AIR that work with the
> client-embedded database for local storage (comes in handy to keep
> working when disconnected from the server)
>
> > The Flex/AIR world seems to still be a very connected world,
> > rather than a self-contained/disconnected one.
>
> well, it slots nicely into an N-tiered environment. While I used to
> get away with small VB5 apps having the UI talking directly to the
> database (using DAO - shudder), it wasn't really very flexible.
>
> There's sometimes a tendancy for people to forget that none of

Re: SL in Offline World

2008-12-31 Thread Jonathan Parker
Yep, the fact that MS was going on about Richness vs Reach at PDC, where
desktop is rich and web is reach and Siverlight is a balance between them,
shows that if you want both then Silverlight is your only option from MS at
the moment and probably for a while.
Having said that, given MS is supporting Silverlight on MAC they may support
Live Mesh at some point which would allow you to host Silverlight apps on a
MAC desktop within some kind of sand box.

This post claims that Live Mesh will support MAC.

http://blogs.computerworld.com/live_mesh_solution_in_search_of_problem

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Sam Lai  wrote:

> > well, it slots nicely into an N-tiered environment. While I used to
> > get away with small VB5 apps having the UI talking directly to the
> > database (using DAO - shudder), it wasn't really very flexible.
>
> See the thing is, I'm trying to use AIR not to build RIAs, but rather
> cross-platform desktop apps with spiffy interfaces. I don't have the
> luxury here of client/server architecture and the ability to use
> something else for the backend (the .NET/Java proxy aside, which
> doesn't have a very good deployment story). There isn't much else out
> there with the ease and features of AIR for desktop apps, which is
> annoying.
>
> As an RIA platform, which is what they're focusing on, it's great. But
> it's got so many attributes that would make it a good desktop app
> platform too, and is so close, yet so far from being about to do that
> too. But hey, desktop apps are dying slowly right? :)
>
> > Mono was mentioned before as a way of getting around having
> > non-windows clients: maybe I'm far too conservitative or afraid, but I
> > find it really hard to embrace Mono.
>
> True, but you have that problem even with platforms where the apps are
> supposed to be cross-OS compatible due to inherent differences between
> OSs, e.g. Java. Granted the likelihood might be less, and it all
> depends on the features you leverage, but then I'd expect simple apps
> to work fine between .NET and Mono also.
>
> It isn't an ideal situation, but it's probably the best solution
> possible realistically - the chance of seeing a Microsoft supported
> release of .NET on Linux is minuscule :)
>
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Re: SL in Offline World

2008-12-29 Thread Jonathan Parker
Google Gears is an option. It uses SQLite I believe. I just tried a SL app
in Chrome with no internet connection and it ran the app from the cache
fine.

On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 10:35 PM, Craig Dunn  wrote:

> Muhammed,
>
> not sure what reading or googling you've already done on 'offline
> Silverlight'; here's a few links i've bookmarked - apologies to others
> who're already familiar with them - note i'm *paraphrasing *here, i've no
> more hands-on experience with Mesh than the next guy...
> Basically it seems like you will need to build your Silverlight on Azure
> (special project type in Visual Studio) and publish it such that it is
> 'aware' of being in a browser or a special 'host' exe (similar to AIR; read
> the first link for more). Your offline users will need to have that 'host
> exe' installed for Silverlight to run inside - so 'offline Silverlight'
> won't be just a XAP on your desktop. At least that's my understanding - if i
> ever get to build something with it i'll be happy to share the results. Full
> Mac support seems a little way off too (see link 3) - this stuff could be in
> ctp/beta for 18 months or more, so not sure i'd start planning a release
> around it right now?
>
> *http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/23/silverlight_live_mesh_offline/*
>
> Computers that are joined to a Mesh need a runtime called the Live
> Operating Environment (LOE), a local server that synchronizes its data with
> the online Mesh. The Mesh CTP adds the ability to deploy applications within
> the Mesh and to access both the online and local Mesh programmatically.
> When you install a MEWA, it automatically creates shortcuts on both the
> Live Desktop and on your local Mesh-joined PCs. Running the MEWA from the
> desktop opens the application in its own window, with no surrounding chrome,
> and it runs offline as well as online. The runtime includes an embedded web
> browser, which means you can run both Silverlight and HTML applications; in
> principle you could even use it for a Flash application though I have not
> tried this.
>
> *
> http://jonas.follesoe.no/MeshenablingTheDiveLogSilverlightApplication.aspx
> *
>
> To build Mesh-Enabled Web Applications you need access to the Live
> Framework SDK and 
> Tools.
> The SDK is currently only available in a private CTP, and to get access you
> need to apply for a token through the Microsoft 
> Connectsite.
> Once you have downloaded and installed the SDK you get a new project type
> called Live Framework, which comes in two flavors; "Mesh-enabled Web
> Application" and "Silverlight Mesh-enabled Web Application". The difference
> is that the first one is for writing JavaScript and HTML based
> Mesh-applications, while the second is for Silverlight applications that use
> the Live Framework libraries.
>
> *
> http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/liveframework/thread/69aca8c8-173c-4d64-8026-30f24c917ffc/
> *
> with quite aggressive timeline for PDC release with the current level of
> resources and CTP goals, we could only test XP SP3/Vista SP1 and IE7. We
> will eventually support Mac and Safari but this is not an immediate priority
> in the near future for CTP
>
>
> *
> http://blogs.msdn.com/blogfiles/mikeormond/WindowsLiveWriter/OfflineSilverlightApplications_EE57/LiveFxPoster_2.png
> *
> Just a nice diagram...
>
> and a video... *http://channel9.msdn.com/pdc2008/BB30/ *
>
> regards
>
> Craig
> conceptdev.blogspot.com | conceptdevelopment.net
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 9:42 PM, Andrea Boschin  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Muhammad Niaz <
>> muhammad.n...@sigmatec.com.pk> wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi all,
>>>
>>>  Can anybody let me know, if I want to develop pure offline App
>>> using SL. But when (off course) required then it sync with server using WCF.
>>>
>>> If any other elegant idea in this regards. J
>>>
>> Someone proposed to me to use Isolated Storage in this kind of scenario.
>> SL is not made to work offline. Isolated Storage is limited in space, may be
>> restricted by the user (and the user may clean it). And it seems there is
>> not a "database" you may use in the IS.
>> Probably it is better you search for a technology best suited for this
>> problems.
>>
>> Bye.
>>
>> --
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>> Microsoft(R) MVP - [Visual Developer - ASP/ASP.NET]
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