Re: [P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks !

[Michel Bauwens]

hi Brent, I have aggregated the wide variety of open business models at
http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Business_Models

not only are there solutions, but there are plenty of solutions, the key
question is of course finding the one that fits with your particular
project ...

but the general scheme, building a community around a commons, and create a
market entity around it (such as a coop), works well

Michel


On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Brent Shambaugh  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Since around mid-march or so I've spent time trying to refining the ideas
> from my Distributed Economy blog (
> http://www.adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com/) into a proposal. I kind of
> felt like I was teaching myself all of computer science. Even though I felt
> I was learning quite a bit, it came at a considerable cost to myself. It is
> hard to think in a peer-to-peer fashion while questioning the fabric of
> academia and industry. I felt that I did not fit in anywhere and was unsure
> build a business model around it. Physically, it seemed that way too. I
> also became very cynical. I grew isolated, but thought I needed time for
> self-study so what I was writing was credible, competitive and lucid enough
> that I could put faith in it to be confident with others. Still, it's scope
> was huge, enough to be not taken seriously by itself I guess. I felt I
> basically was trying to change the operating system of the planet, and
> everything else was built on top of that (businesses, academia, etc...).
> Was the value network the business model? That, and maybe support? Do I
> just try to start something like Linux and hope for the best? That's the
> sort of scale I was envisioning. Fortunately, the web efforts have done a
> lot of the groundwork. It's more of a use then. It's hard to say I did much
> beyond understanding and some aggregation of connections that others might
> not have seen. People tell you to hold on to some things in private, while
> at the same time you want to integrate with the rest of the community.
> Maybe what I have is significant, maybe it is not. It would be great to
> share it. I believe enough in it to think it could help people. I'm almost
> done with what seems to resemble a 20 page outline. I do not want to
> fragment the community (or be fragmented from it), but at the same time I
> need some sustainable way to survive. Paradoxically, it seems it needs the
> support and the efforts and the ideas of the community to succeed. Are
> there any solutions? I'm sorry if I come off as arrogant in any way.
>
> -Brent
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
> dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Eric
>>
>> Yes, I'd be glad to follow up on the thinking and research you are doing
>> around metacurrency, and participate in the scheduled hang out.
>>
>> further note :
>> an interesting reply by June on this thread,
>> also available on the public p2pf list archive
>>
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org/
>>
>>
>>- [P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is
>>understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks 
>> !
>> Dante-Gabryell Monson
>>   - Re: [P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is
>>   understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks 
>> !
>>June Gorman
>>   - Re: [P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is
>>   understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks 
>> !
>>Dante-Gabryell Monson
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Eric Harris-Braun 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> It turns out that where the technical side of the MetaCurrency Project
>>> has led us has lots to do with Semantic Data or rather, from our point of
>>> view, Semantic Computing.  Ceptr, the computing stack we are designing to
>>> build our tools out of, pushes Semantics down into the lowest levels of the
>>> stack, in a way that we haven't seen with the approaches inherent embodied
>>> in RDF/URI.
>>>
>>> For folks interested in our approach, I'm scheduling a tech hang-out in
>>> the next week or two. If you want to be notified of it please drop me a
>>> line.
>>>
>>> -Eric
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
>>> dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 *pre-note : I try to understand if we can , possibly collectively, *
 *write an article that could be published on the p2pfoundation blog,*
 *as to better explain, in words and with images / graphics , *
 *some of the potentials of building on, for example, Linked Data -
 and/or similar technologies enabling us to more easily redefine our
 realities collectively -*


 *If anyone wrote on these topics, or is i

Re: [P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks !

[Brent Shambaugh]

Hi All,

Since around mid-march or so I've spent time trying to refining the ideas
from my Distributed Economy blog (
http://www.adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com/) into a proposal. I kind of
felt like I was teaching myself all of computer science. Even though I felt
I was learning quite a bit, it came at a considerable cost to myself. It is
hard to think in a peer-to-peer fashion while questioning the fabric of
academia and industry. I felt that I did not fit in anywhere and was unsure
build a business model around it. Physically, it seemed that way too. I
also became very cynical. I grew isolated, but thought I needed time for
self-study so what I was writing was credible, competitive and lucid enough
that I could put faith in it to be confident with others. Still, it's scope
was huge, enough to be not taken seriously by itself I guess. I felt I
basically was trying to change the operating system of the planet, and
everything else was built on top of that (businesses, academia, etc...).
Was the value network the business model? That, and maybe support? Do I
just try to start something like Linux and hope for the best? That's the
sort of scale I was envisioning. Fortunately, the web efforts have done a
lot of the groundwork. It's more of a use then. It's hard to say I did much
beyond understanding and some aggregation of connections that others might
not have seen. People tell you to hold on to some things in private, while
at the same time you want to integrate with the rest of the community.
Maybe what I have is significant, maybe it is not. It would be great to
share it. I believe enough in it to think it could help people. I'm almost
done with what seems to resemble a 20 page outline. I do not want to
fragment the community (or be fragmented from it), but at the same time I
need some sustainable way to survive. Paradoxically, it seems it needs the
support and the efforts and the ideas of the community to succeed. Are
there any solutions? I'm sorry if I come off as arrogant in any way.

-Brent


On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Eric
>
> Yes, I'd be glad to follow up on the thinking and research you are doing
> around metacurrency, and participate in the scheduled hang out.
>
> further note :
> an interesting reply by June on this thread,
> also available on the public p2pf list archive
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/p2p-foundation@lists.ourproject.org/
>
>
>- [P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is
>understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks 
> !
> Dante-Gabryell Monson
>   - Re: [P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is
>   understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks 
> !
>June Gorman
>   - Re: [P2P-F] Do we know about Linked Data ? Are we interested is
>   understanding its potentials ? Quick survey - Thanks 
> !
>Dante-Gabryell Monson
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Eric Harris-Braun 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> It turns out that where the technical side of the MetaCurrency Project
>> has led us has lots to do with Semantic Data or rather, from our point of
>> view, Semantic Computing.  Ceptr, the computing stack we are designing to
>> build our tools out of, pushes Semantics down into the lowest levels of the
>> stack, in a way that we haven't seen with the approaches inherent embodied
>> in RDF/URI.
>>
>> For folks interested in our approach, I'm scheduling a tech hang-out in
>> the next week or two. If you want to be notified of it please drop me a
>> line.
>>
>> -Eric
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Dante-Gabryell Monson <
>> dante.mon...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> *pre-note : I try to understand if we can , possibly collectively, *
>>> *write an article that could be published on the p2pfoundation blog,*
>>> *as to better explain, in words and with images / graphics , *
>>> *some of the potentials of building on, for example, Linked Data -
>>> and/or similar technologies enabling us to more easily redefine our
>>> realities collectively -*
>>>
>>>
>>> *If anyone wrote on these topics, or is interested in combining our
>>> efforts and research in writing about these topics, or if some can help in
>>> making such article in a enjoyable reading moment ( combining it with nice
>>> imagery and stories ? Like some science fiction authors manage to do - yet
>>> talking about the present ? ) it would be great.   I mean, not only about
>>> one specific application or project, but about the potential to work
>>> together on various applications based on common protocols. *
>>>
>>> *Some call it a "Global Brain" , or a "Web Operating System" , ... *
>>>
>>> *Below is what I want to say to open