Re: [Pacemaker] [Linux-HA] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015
25.11.2014 12:54, Lars Marowsky-Bree wrote:... > > OK, let's switch tracks a bit. What *topics* do we actually have? Can we > fill two days? Where would we want to collect them? > Just my 2c. - It would be interesting to get some bird-view information on what C APIs corosync and pacemaker currently provide to application developers (one immediate use-case is in-app monitoring of the cluster events). - One more (more developer-bounded) topic could be a "resource degraded state" support. From the user perspective it would be nice to have. One immediate example is iscsi connection to several portals. When some portals are not accessible, connection still may work, but in the "degraded" state. Best, Vladislav ___ Pacemaker mailing list: Pacemaker@oss.clusterlabs.org http://oss.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/pacemaker Project Home: http://www.clusterlabs.org Getting started: http://www.clusterlabs.org/doc/Cluster_from_Scratch.pdf Bugs: http://bugs.clusterlabs.org
Re: [Pacemaker] [Linux-HA] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015
> On 25 Nov 2014, at 9:16 pm, Michael Schwartzkopff wrote: > > Am Dienstag, 25. November 2014, 10:54:01 schrieb Lars Marowsky-Bree: >> On 2014-11-24T16:16:05, "Fabio M. Di Nitto" wrote: Yeah, well, devconf.cz is not such an interesting event for those who do not wear the fedora ;-) >>> >>> That would be the perfect opportunity for you to convert users to Suse ;) >>> > I´d prefer, at least for this round, to keep dates/location and explore > the option to allow people to join remotely. Afterall there are tons of > tools between google hangouts and others that would allow that. That is, in my experience, the absolute worst. It creates second class participants and is a PITA for everyone. >>> >>> I agree, it is still a way for people to join in tho. >> >> I personally disagree. In my experience, one either does a face-to-face >> meeting, or a virtual one that puts everyone on the same footing. >> Mixing both works really badly unless the team already knows each >> other. >> I know that an in-person meeting is useful, but we have a large team in Beijing, the US, Tasmania (OK, one crazy guy), various countries in Europe etc. >>> >>> Yes same here. No difference.. we have one crazy guy in Australia.. >> >> Yeah, but you're already bringing him for your personal conference. >> That's a bit different. ;-) >> >> OK, let's switch tracks a bit. What *topics* do we actually have? Can we >> fill two days? Where would we want to collect them? > > - Roadmap: What to expect next. > - Unification: Locking and fencing the RH style (cman) and the rest of the > world. Unification is pretty much sorted AFAICS, RHEL ships corosync2 + pacemaker and SUSE either does already or is talking about doing it soon. Pacemaker + CMAN was only ever a transitioning state. > - features in pacemaker > - Cluster File Systems: Which one is usable for what application. > > All points from a users point of view. Not realated to any company. > > I could present: "Monitoring of clusters". > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen, > > Michael Schwartzkopff > > -- > [*] sys4 AG > > http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64, +49 (162) 165 0044 > Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München > > Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 > Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer > Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian > Kirstein___ > Pacemaker mailing list: Pacemaker@oss.clusterlabs.org > http://oss.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/pacemaker > > Project Home: http://www.clusterlabs.org > Getting started: http://www.clusterlabs.org/doc/Cluster_from_Scratch.pdf > Bugs: http://bugs.clusterlabs.org ___ Pacemaker mailing list: Pacemaker@oss.clusterlabs.org http://oss.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/pacemaker Project Home: http://www.clusterlabs.org Getting started: http://www.clusterlabs.org/doc/Cluster_from_Scratch.pdf Bugs: http://bugs.clusterlabs.org
Re: [Pacemaker] [Linux-HA] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015
Am Dienstag, 25. November 2014, 10:54:01 schrieb Lars Marowsky-Bree: > On 2014-11-24T16:16:05, "Fabio M. Di Nitto" wrote: > > > Yeah, well, devconf.cz is not such an interesting event for those who do > > > not wear the fedora ;-) > > > > That would be the perfect opportunity for you to convert users to Suse ;) > > > > >> I´d prefer, at least for this round, to keep dates/location and explore > > >> the option to allow people to join remotely. Afterall there are tons of > > >> tools between google hangouts and others that would allow that. > > > > > > That is, in my experience, the absolute worst. It creates second class > > > participants and is a PITA for everyone. > > > > I agree, it is still a way for people to join in tho. > > I personally disagree. In my experience, one either does a face-to-face > meeting, or a virtual one that puts everyone on the same footing. > Mixing both works really badly unless the team already knows each > other. > > > > I know that an in-person meeting is useful, but we have a large team in > > > Beijing, the US, Tasmania (OK, one crazy guy), various countries in > > > Europe etc. > > > > Yes same here. No difference.. we have one crazy guy in Australia.. > > Yeah, but you're already bringing him for your personal conference. > That's a bit different. ;-) > > OK, let's switch tracks a bit. What *topics* do we actually have? Can we > fill two days? Where would we want to collect them? - Roadmap: What to expect next. - Unification: Locking and fencing the RH style (cman) and the rest of the world. - features in pacemaker - Cluster File Systems: Which one is usable for what application. All points from a users point of view. Not realated to any company. I could present: "Monitoring of clusters". Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Michael Schwartzkopff -- [*] sys4 AG http://sys4.de, +49 (89) 30 90 46 64, +49 (162) 165 0044 Franziskanerstraße 15, 81669 München Sitz der Gesellschaft: München, Amtsgericht München: HRB 199263 Vorstand: Patrick Ben Koetter, Marc Schiffbauer Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Florian Kirstein signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Pacemaker mailing list: Pacemaker@oss.clusterlabs.org http://oss.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/pacemaker Project Home: http://www.clusterlabs.org Getting started: http://www.clusterlabs.org/doc/Cluster_from_Scratch.pdf Bugs: http://bugs.clusterlabs.org
Re: [Pacemaker] [Linux-HA] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015
On 2014-11-24T16:16:05, "Fabio M. Di Nitto" wrote: > > Yeah, well, devconf.cz is not such an interesting event for those who do > > not wear the fedora ;-) > That would be the perfect opportunity for you to convert users to Suse ;) > >> I´d prefer, at least for this round, to keep dates/location and explore > >> the option to allow people to join remotely. Afterall there are tons of > >> tools between google hangouts and others that would allow that. > > That is, in my experience, the absolute worst. It creates second class > > participants and is a PITA for everyone. > I agree, it is still a way for people to join in tho. I personally disagree. In my experience, one either does a face-to-face meeting, or a virtual one that puts everyone on the same footing. Mixing both works really badly unless the team already knows each other. > > I know that an in-person meeting is useful, but we have a large team in > > Beijing, the US, Tasmania (OK, one crazy guy), various countries in > > Europe etc. > Yes same here. No difference.. we have one crazy guy in Australia.. Yeah, but you're already bringing him for your personal conference. That's a bit different. ;-) OK, let's switch tracks a bit. What *topics* do we actually have? Can we fill two days? Where would we want to collect them? Regards, Lars -- Architect Storage/HA SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) "Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes." -- Oscar Wilde ___ Pacemaker mailing list: Pacemaker@oss.clusterlabs.org http://oss.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/pacemaker Project Home: http://www.clusterlabs.org Getting started: http://www.clusterlabs.org/doc/Cluster_from_Scratch.pdf Bugs: http://bugs.clusterlabs.org
Re: [Pacemaker] [Linux-HA] [ha-wg] [RFC] Organizing HA Summit 2015
All the cool kids will be there. You want to be a cool kid, right? :p On 01/11/14 01:06 AM, Fabio M. Di Nitto wrote: just a kind reminder. On 9/8/2014 12:30 PM, Fabio M. Di Nitto wrote: All, it's been almost 6 years since we had a face to face meeting for all developers and vendors involved in Linux HA. I'd like to try and organize a new event and piggy-back with DevConf in Brno [1]. DevConf will start Friday the 6th of Feb 2015 in Red Hat Brno offices. My suggestion would be to have a 2 days dedicated HA summit the 4th and the 5th of February. The goal for this meeting is to, beside to get to know each other and all social aspect of those events, tune the directions of the various HA projects and explore common areas of improvements. I am also very open to the idea of extending to 3 days, 1 one dedicated to customers/users and 2 dedicated to developers, by starting the 3rd. Thoughts? Fabio PS Please hit reply all or include me in CC just to make sure I'll see an answer :) [1] http://devconf.cz/ Could you please let me know by end of Nov if you are interested or not? I have heard only from few people so far. Cheers Fabio ___ Linux-HA mailing list linux...@lists.linux-ha.org http://lists.linux-ha.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-ha See also: http://linux-ha.org/ReportingProblems -- Digimer Papers and Projects: https://alteeve.ca/w/ What if the cure for cancer is trapped in the mind of a person without access to education? ___ Pacemaker mailing list: Pacemaker@oss.clusterlabs.org http://oss.clusterlabs.org/mailman/listinfo/pacemaker Project Home: http://www.clusterlabs.org Getting started: http://www.clusterlabs.org/doc/Cluster_from_Scratch.pdf Bugs: http://bugs.clusterlabs.org
