Re: [Pacemaker] very urgent

2009-02-16 Thread Glory Smith




 we kill the node with STONITH.
 very hard for a machine to write to shared media when its powered off.


 we can kill nodes when:
 - nodes become unresponsive - nodes are not part of the cluster that has
 quorum
 - resources fail to stop when instructed
 - resources fail in any way (optional)


1) well if somehow STONITH fails to kill the errant node and the node is
still alive , it will be able to do IO on shared disk.   this can cause data
integrity issue right??

2) suppose we have set STONITH action to reboot then the errant node can
comeup and still write to shared disk , even if it does not suppose to do
this.

if openais -pacemaker provide something  for resouce fencing we would have
completely ruled out  above possiblities  Please share your view.




   i am sure you ppl must have something .

  waiting for your reply,
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Re: [Pacemaker] very urgent

2009-02-16 Thread Andrew Beekhof


On Feb 16, 2009, at 11:24 AM, Glory Smith wrote:






we kill the node with STONITH.
very hard for a machine to write to shared media when its powered off.


we can kill nodes when:
- nodes become unresponsive
- nodes are not part of the cluster that has quorum
- resources fail to stop when instructed
- resources fail in any way (optional)

1) well if somehow STONITH fails to kill the errant node and the  
node is still alive ,


having an unreliable stonith mechanism is worse than not having one at  
all.


what if your resource fencing has a bug? its the same problem.

reliable fencing is a fundamental requirement of the cluster.

it will be able to do IO on shared disk.   this can cause data  
integrity issue right??


2) suppose we have set STONITH action to reboot then the errant node  
can comeup and still write to shared disk , even if it does not  
suppose to do this.


1) well dont configure it like that then

2) no, it cant.
it wont have quorum and therefor isn't allowed to start cluster  
resources




if openais -pacemaker provide something  for resouce fencing we  
would have completely ruled out  above possiblities  Please share  
your view.





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Re: [Pacemaker] very urgent

2009-02-16 Thread Glory Smith

 I get the feeling that by resource fencing, you just mean scsi
 reservations which are already possible in the current framework.


Yes i want  persistent scsi reservation .it's really great that it is
possible in current framework , but i couldnot find it and when posted a
query about this sometime back , got a impression that it is only available
in RHCS not in suse 11 :(

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Re: [Pacemaker] very urgent

2009-02-16 Thread Glory Smith
Hi Andrew,
how do we configure pesisten reservation  fencing in suse 11.

Thanks,


On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Glory Smith xx2gl...@gmail.com wrote:



 I get the feeling that by resource fencing, you just mean scsi
 reservations which are already possible in the current framework.


 Yes i want  persistent scsi reservation .it's really great that it is
 possible in current framework , but i couldnot find it and when posted a
 query about this sometime back , got a impression that it is only available
 in RHCS not in suse 11 :(

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Re: [Pacemaker] very urgent

2009-02-16 Thread Andrew Beekhof

I believe its called SBD, but I'm no expert on it

On Feb 16, 2009, at 4:15 PM, Glory Smith wrote:


Hi Andrew,
how do we configure pesisten reservation  fencing in suse 11.

Thanks,


On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Glory Smith xx2gl...@gmail.com  
wrote:



I get the feeling that by resource fencing, you just mean scsi  
reservations which are already possible in the current framework.


Yes i want  persistent scsi reservation .it's really great that it  
is possible in current framework , but i couldnot find it and when  
posted a query about this sometime back , got a impression that it  
is only available in RHCS not in suse 11 :(


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