[Bug 961642] Review Request: ubuntu-font-family - The fonts used in Ubuntu Linux

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=961642



--- Comment #14 from Tom "spot" Callaway  ---
Arguably, the "best" approach would be to use a standard and recognized font
license, like the SIL OFL, but I imagine that is unlikely to occur. This hybrid
license is inconsistent, and the text does not reflect the intent.

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[Bug 961642] Review Request: ubuntu-font-family - The fonts used in Ubuntu Linux

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=961642

Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek  changed:

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--- Comment #13 from Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek  ---
The _intent_ is clear in the preamble ("be used … and redistributed freely"),
however "Permissions & Conditions" allows for "propagation" under specified
terms, but doesn't directly allow _use_. So you're allowed to distribute the
font, but there's no specific permission for the font to be used. This doesn't
make much sense, and I doubt anyone could argue, because of the preamble, that
you violate the copyright just by using the font, but indeed this should be
fixed.

I don't think the suggested fix of dropping "except executing
it on a computer or modifying a private copy" is the best approach. Instead, it
would imho be better to add a separate sentence at the beginning of
Permissions that use, study, and modification, without propagation,
are not limited in any way.

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[Bug 961642] Review Request: ubuntu-font-family - The fonts used in Ubuntu Linux

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=961642

Paul Sladen  changed:

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--- Comment #12 from Paul Sladen  ---
@spot: I didn't see this bug report before this evening.  My apologies on
behalf of the Ubuntu project.  Anyone is most welcome to ping me directly,
using any  of the normal methods.

Yes, as Kevin Kofler has noted the "Propagate" wording arrived directly at the
suggestion of somebody extremely familiar with the GPLv3 drafting.  For the
ease of anyone wanting to follow, a diff verses SIL OFL 1.1 is here:

  http://font.ubuntu.com/ufl/ofl-1.1-ufl-1.0.diff.html

UFL-1.0 in "Preamble" has "allows the licensed fonts to be used, studied,
modified and redistributed freely"

GPLv3 in "Basic Permissions" has "You may make, run and propagate"

My understanding of the "executing it on a computer or modifying a private
copy." (identical in GPLv3 and UFL-1.0) is to clearly differentiate local
activities from intentional distribution (the propagation).

Those local activities being "make and run" (GPLv3); or "use, study, modify"
(UFL-1.0).

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[Bug 961642] Review Request: ubuntu-font-family - The fonts used in Ubuntu Linux

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=961642

Parag AN(पराग) panem...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |CLOSED
 CC||panem...@gmail.com
 Blocks|177841 (FE-NEEDSPONSOR),|201449 (FE-DEADREVIEW)
   |182235 (FE-Legal)   |
 Resolution|--- |NOTABUG
Last Closed||2015-08-15 08:10:51



--- Comment #11 from Parag AN(पराग) panem...@gmail.com ---
Please feel free to reopen but for now, I am going to close this and any other
review by this submitter based on
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_stalled_package_reviews#Submitter_not_responding

Note for others, I have already ping package submitter on other bug but have
not got any response.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=177841
[Bug 177841] Tracker: Review requests from new Fedora packagers who need a
sponsor
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=182235
[Bug 182235] Fedora Legal Tracker
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=201449
[Bug 201449] FE-DEADREVIEW -- Reviews stalled due to lack of submitter
response should be blocking this bug.
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[Bug 961642] Review Request: ubuntu-font-family - The fonts used in Ubuntu Linux

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=961642



--- Comment #10 from Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com ---
I'm amused (and disappointed) that this bug has been open on Canonical's side
for almost two years now.

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[Bug 961642] Review Request: ubuntu-font-family - The fonts used in Ubuntu Linux

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=961642



--- Comment #9 from Kevin Kofler ke...@tigcc.ticalc.org ---
The funny thing is that the offending definition is copied from the GPLv3. But
sadly, out of the context of the GPLv3 (in particular, its 2. Basic
Permissions paragraph), the definition does not make sense. And unfortunately,
that's exactly what this license does, it attempts using that definition in a
BSD-style Permission is granted, free of charge, … clause. The hybrid does
not fit together.

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[Bug 961642] Review Request: ubuntu-font-family - The fonts used in Ubuntu Linux

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Julien Enselme juj...@jujens.eu changed:

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1070946
[Bug 1070946] Review Request: python-SimpleCV - Open source framework for
building computer vision applications
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[Bug 961642] Review Request: ubuntu-font-family - The fonts used in Ubuntu Linux

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Julien Enselme juj...@jujens.eu changed:

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1070946
[Bug 1070946] Review Request: python-SimpleCV - Open source framework for
building computer vision applications
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[Bug 961642] Review Request: ubuntu-font-family - The fonts used in Ubuntu Linux

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=961642

Christopher Meng cicku...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #7 from Christopher Meng cicku...@gmail.com ---
I will try contacting Ubuntu for a declaration.

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[Bug 961642] Review Request: ubuntu-font-family - The fonts used in Ubuntu Linux

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Christopher Meng cicku...@gmail.com changed:

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External Bug ID||Launchpad 1211154



--- Comment #8 from Christopher Meng cicku...@gmail.com ---
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family/+bug/1211154

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[Bug 961642] Review Request: ubuntu-font-family - The fonts used in Ubuntu Linux

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Hans de Goede hdego...@redhat.com changed:

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--- Comment #6 from Hans de Goede hdego...@redhat.com ---
(In reply to K.Prasad from comment #5)
 Thanks for the review. 
 So I guess this package cannot be included in Fedora repo.

Or you could contact Ubuntu and ask them to fix the license.

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[Bug 961642] Review Request: ubuntu-font-family - The fonts used in Ubuntu Linux

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Product: Fedora
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=961642

--- Comment #5 from K.Prasad kpra...@gmx.com ---
Thanks for the review. 
So I guess this package cannot be included in Fedora repo.

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[Bug 961642] Review Request: ubuntu-font-family - The fonts used in Ubuntu Linux

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Product: Fedora
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=961642

Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com changed:

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--- Comment #4 from Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com ---
The Ubuntu Font License is non-free.

It says:

  To Propagate a work means to do anything with it that, without
  permission, would make you directly or secondarily liable for
  infringement under applicable copyright law, except executing it on a
  computer or modifying a private copy.

The except items are use and modification restrictions. Since the
license only refers to propogate, and never grants unrestricted use
or modification permissions, the license is non-free.

Canonical could fix this license by simply dropping except executing
it on a computer or modifying a private copy.

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[Bug 961642] Review Request: ubuntu-font-family - The fonts used in Ubuntu Linux

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=961642

--- Comment #3 from K.Prasad kpra...@gmx.com ---
Thanks Antonio. I'll request them to review this license.

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[Bug 961642] Review Request: ubuntu-font-family - The fonts used in Ubuntu Linux

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Product: Fedora
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=961642

Antonio Trande anto.tra...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #2 from Antonio Trande anto.tra...@gmail.com ---
Hi.

SIL Open Font License 1.1 is ok for Fedora but Ubuntu font family is not
listed among appropriate licenses:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing:Main#Font_Licenses

Please, ask to Fedora Legal.

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[Bug 961642] Review Request: ubuntu-font-family - The fonts used in Ubuntu Linux

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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=961642

K.Prasad kpra...@gmx.com changed:

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[Bug 961642] Review Request: ubuntu-font-family - The fonts used in Ubuntu Linux

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Product: Fedora
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=961642

--- Comment #1 from K.Prasad kpra...@gmx.com ---
Adding rpmlint output :

$rpmlint ../SRPMS/ubuntu-font-family-0.80-1.fc18.src.rpm 
ubuntu-font-family.src: W: invalid-license Ubuntu Font License, based on SIL
OFL 1.1
ubuntu-font-family.src:51: W: mixed-use-of-spaces-and-tabs (spaces: line 51,
tab: line 4)
1 packages and 0 specfiles checked; 0 errors, 2 warnings.

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