RE: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-04-21 Thread Fred Stein
Not to mention WebOS, which is also Linux. 

-Original Message-
From: Edward Jones [mailto:edward.jo...@nvs-ltd.co.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 7:28 AM
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Subject: Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

Maybe not the right forum this, but according to the Aceeca spec for the 
PDA32, it will run either Garnet, Linux or WinCE. It is the Linux part 
that interests me - would it be possible to run Android on this unit 
seeing as I gather Android is based on Linux? This would give me the 
platform I want to develop on without the smartphone features I don't 
want or have to pay for...


Regards

Edward Jones

On 14/04/2010 20:15, Benjamin wrote:
> None of this matters until we see a link to buy one of these units to
> test for compatibility with our software and to sell them to our
> customers. My customers need a cheaper PDA than the Janam and more
> reliable than old refurbished Tungsten E2's. The PDA32 would fit that
> nitch nicely if I could get a hold of one.
>
> Benjamin
>
> On 4/14/2010 1:47 PM, Luc Le Blanc wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> More info is now available on the new PDA32. It won't be QVGA
>> (quarter) but HVGA (half) linke in 320x480. More info here:
>>
>> http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2010/04/08/aceeca-pda32-new-garnet-os-hardware
>>
>>
>> As for the confusing memory specs, I checked with Aceeca who corrected:
>>
>> Memory RAM: 64 MB
>> Memory ROM: 128 MB
>> Memory Expansion: Secure Digital (SD)
>>
>> This fast CPU combined with twice the usual battery capacity makes the
>> whole thing very exciting!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Luc Le Blanc
>> http://www.speleo.qc.ca/Auriga
>>
>
>


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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-04-21 Thread Edward Jones
Maybe not the right forum this, but according to the Aceeca spec for the 
PDA32, it will run either Garnet, Linux or WinCE. It is the Linux part 
that interests me - would it be possible to run Android on this unit 
seeing as I gather Android is based on Linux? This would give me the 
platform I want to develop on without the smartphone features I don't 
want or have to pay for...



Regards

Edward Jones

On 14/04/2010 20:15, Benjamin wrote:

None of this matters until we see a link to buy one of these units to
test for compatibility with our software and to sell them to our
customers. My customers need a cheaper PDA than the Janam and more
reliable than old refurbished Tungsten E2's. The PDA32 would fit that
nitch nicely if I could get a hold of one.

Benjamin

On 4/14/2010 1:47 PM, Luc Le Blanc wrote:

Hi,

More info is now available on the new PDA32. It won't be QVGA
(quarter) but HVGA (half) linke in 320x480. More info here:

http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2010/04/08/aceeca-pda32-new-garnet-os-hardware


As for the confusing memory specs, I checked with Aceeca who corrected:

Memory RAM: 64 MB
Memory ROM: 128 MB
Memory Expansion: Secure Digital (SD)

This fast CPU combined with twice the usual battery capacity makes the
whole thing very exciting!


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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-04-19 Thread Edward Jones
Thanks Dmitry, yes the card in question is an SDHC card so I will give 
PowerSDHC a go!



Edward Jones

On 16/04/2010 18:40, Dmitry Grinberg wrote:

What are you talking about? I have a 32GB card in mine right now. :)
Google: PowerSDHC


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(847) 226 9295


On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Edward Jones
mailto:edward.jo...@nvs-ltd.co.uk>> wrote:

Indeed, I have just ordered a Janam XP30 but at over 800GBP that is
a lot more than the trusty TX's we have out in the field costing
about 250GBP. I have recently found that the TX wont recognise 4Gb
SD cards so hopefully the Aceeca (sounds like Access?!) units will?
Or is this a limit to Palm OS 5?

Edward Jones


On 14/04/2010 20:15, Benjamin wrote:

None of this matters until we see a link to buy one of these
units to
test for compatibility with our software and to sell them to our
customers. My customers need a cheaper PDA than the Janam and more
reliable than old refurbished Tungsten E2's. The PDA32 would fit
that
nitch nicely if I could get a hold of one.

Benjamin

On 4/14/2010 1:47 PM, Luc Le Blanc wrote:

Hi,

More info is now available on the new PDA32. It won't be QVGA
(quarter) but HVGA (half) linke in 320x480. More info here:


http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2010/04/08/aceeca-pda32-new-garnet-os-hardware


As for the confusing memory specs, I checked with Aceeca who
corrected:

Memory RAM: 64 MB
Memory ROM: 128 MB
Memory Expansion: Secure Digital (SD)

This fast CPU combined with twice the usual battery capacity
makes the
whole thing very exciting!


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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-04-16 Thread Dmitry Grinberg
What are you talking about? I have a 32GB card in mine right now. :)
Google: PowerSDHC


Best Regards,
Dmitry Grinberg
(847) 226 9295


On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Edward Jones
wrote:

> Indeed, I have just ordered a Janam XP30 but at over 800GBP that is a lot
> more than the trusty TX's we have out in the field costing about 250GBP. I
> have recently found that the TX wont recognise 4Gb SD cards so hopefully the
> Aceeca (sounds like Access?!) units will? Or is this a limit to Palm OS 5?
>
> Edward Jones
>
>
> On 14/04/2010 20:15, Benjamin wrote:
>
>> None of this matters until we see a link to buy one of these units to
>> test for compatibility with our software and to sell them to our
>> customers. My customers need a cheaper PDA than the Janam and more
>> reliable than old refurbished Tungsten E2's. The PDA32 would fit that
>> nitch nicely if I could get a hold of one.
>>
>> Benjamin
>>
>> On 4/14/2010 1:47 PM, Luc Le Blanc wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> More info is now available on the new PDA32. It won't be QVGA
>>> (quarter) but HVGA (half) linke in 320x480. More info here:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2010/04/08/aceeca-pda32-new-garnet-os-hardware
>>>
>>>
>>> As for the confusing memory specs, I checked with Aceeca who corrected:
>>>
>>> Memory RAM: 64 MB
>>> Memory ROM: 128 MB
>>> Memory Expansion: Secure Digital (SD)
>>>
>>> This fast CPU combined with twice the usual battery capacity makes the
>>> whole thing very exciting!
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Luc Le Blanc
>>> http://www.speleo.qc.ca/Auriga
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-04-15 Thread Edward Jones
Indeed, I have just ordered a Janam XP30 but at over 800GBP that is a 
lot more than the trusty TX's we have out in the field costing about 
250GBP. I have recently found that the TX wont recognise 4Gb SD cards so 
hopefully the Aceeca (sounds like Access?!) units will? Or is this a 
limit to Palm OS 5?


Edward Jones

On 14/04/2010 20:15, Benjamin wrote:

None of this matters until we see a link to buy one of these units to
test for compatibility with our software and to sell them to our
customers. My customers need a cheaper PDA than the Janam and more
reliable than old refurbished Tungsten E2's. The PDA32 would fit that
nitch nicely if I could get a hold of one.

Benjamin

On 4/14/2010 1:47 PM, Luc Le Blanc wrote:

Hi,

More info is now available on the new PDA32. It won't be QVGA
(quarter) but HVGA (half) linke in 320x480. More info here:

http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2010/04/08/aceeca-pda32-new-garnet-os-hardware


As for the confusing memory specs, I checked with Aceeca who corrected:

Memory RAM: 64 MB
Memory ROM: 128 MB
Memory Expansion: Secure Digital (SD)

This fast CPU combined with twice the usual battery capacity makes the
whole thing very exciting!


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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-04-14 Thread Benjamin
None of this matters until we see a link to buy one of these units to 
test for compatibility with our software and to sell them to our 
customers.  My customers need a cheaper PDA than the Janam and more 
reliable than  old refurbished Tungsten E2's.  The PDA32 would fit that 
nitch nicely if I could get a hold of one.


Benjamin

On 4/14/2010 1:47 PM, Luc Le Blanc wrote:

Hi,

More info is now available on the new PDA32. It won't be QVGA (quarter) but 
HVGA (half) linke in 320x480. More info here:

http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2010/04/08/aceeca-pda32-new-garnet-os-hardware

As for the confusing memory specs, I checked with Aceeca who corrected:

Memory RAM:  64 MB
Memory ROM: 128 MB
Memory Expansion: Secure Digital (SD)

This fast CPU combined with twice the usual battery capacity makes the whole 
thing very exciting!


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http://www.speleo.qc.ca/Auriga




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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-04-14 Thread Luc Le Blanc
Hi,

More info is now available on the new PDA32. It won't be QVGA (quarter) but 
HVGA (half) linke in 320x480. More info here:

http://tamspalm.tamoggemon.com/2010/04/08/aceeca-pda32-new-garnet-os-hardware

As for the confusing memory specs, I checked with Aceeca who corrected:

Memory RAM:  64 MB
Memory ROM: 128 MB
Memory Expansion: Secure Digital (SD)

This fast CPU combined with twice the usual battery capacity makes the whole 
thing very exciting!


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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-03-04 Thread David Thacker
"Luc Le Blanc" <> wrote in message news:188...@palm-dev-forum...
> Checking the Aceeca website, I see the MEZ1500 (499$) and the MZIO-less 
> RDA1500 (399$) are displayed, but no PDA32.
>
> Mentionned operating systems for these upcoming devices (shipping date 
> TBA) are WinCE 5.x / WinCE 6.x and Linux, but no Palm OS.
>
> The Aceeca website lacks much details (in both text and photos) for its 
> devices. I gather the Bluetooth option must sit inside since the RDA1500 
> doesn't have a MZIO slot. What are those side buttons? Is the battery 
> swappable (it doesn't say)? Can a MZIO GPS be purchased? (news release say 
> so, but I can't find this item among accessories.)
>
> Perusing the forums (no message more recent than August 2009), I read 
> about the MEZ2000 as if it were old news, yet I don't find it anywhere. 
> Same dimensions and weight as the MEZ1500, but with a VGA screen according 
> to Tam's blog. Does it exist?
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Luc Le Blanc
> http://www.speleo.qc.ca/Auriga


Hi Luc,

Aceeca still hasn't updated that product page on their website to reflect 
the new/changed devices.  That same page has been there for about 2 years. 
None of the up to date info about the MEZ1500 running GarnetOS is there, 
nothing about the PDA32, etc.  I'm told they're working on a news release 
and will update the website then.

The MEZ2000 was abandoned before release, maybe about 1.5 years ago.

Swappable battery: Yes for the MEZ1500, No for the PDA32.

Side buttons: just a pair of user-programmable side buttons, great for 
triggering a barcode scan, for example.

GPS module: I know there is/was one for the MEZ1000 from a third party, not 
sure about use in the MEZ1500.

Meanwhile, tick tock tick tock...

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re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-03-02 Thread Luc Le Blanc
Checking the Aceeca website, I see the MEZ1500 (499$) and the MZIO-less RDA1500 
(399$) are displayed, but no PDA32.

Mentionned operating systems for these upcoming devices (shipping date TBA) are 
WinCE 5.x / WinCE 6.x and Linux, but no Palm OS.

The Aceeca website lacks much details (in both text and photos) for its 
devices. I gather the Bluetooth option must sit inside since the RDA1500 
doesn't have a MZIO slot. What are those side buttons? Is the battery swappable 
(it doesn't say)? Can a MZIO GPS be purchased? (news release say so, but I 
can't find this item among accessories.)

Perusing the forums (no message more recent than August 2009), I read about the 
MEZ2000 as if it were old news, yet I don't find it anywhere. Same dimensions 
and weight as the MEZ1500, but with a VGA screen according to Tam's blog. Does 
it exist?

Regards,


Luc Le Blanc
http://www.speleo.qc.ca/Auriga
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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-02-11 Thread David Thacker
I suggest trying any of the contact methods for Aceeca listed at
http://www.aceeca.com/contact_us/


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"Benjamin" <> wrote in message news:188...@palm-dev-forum...
> Good question.  I need to test and see if the code works or I need to make 
> changes.  Also compatibilities with Bluetooth printers.
>
> On 2/10/2010 11:08 AM, Dmitry Grinberg wrote:
>> Any idea of what it'll cost to get a prerelease unit or who to contact 
>> about
>> that?
> 



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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-02-10 Thread Benjamin
Good question.  I need to test and see if the code works or I need to 
make changes.  Also compatibilities with Bluetooth printers.


On 2/10/2010 11:08 AM, Dmitry Grinberg wrote:

Any idea of what it'll cost to get a prerelease unit or who to contact about
that?


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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-02-10 Thread Dmitry Grinberg
Any idea of what it'll cost to get a prerelease unit or who to contact about
that?

Best Regards,
Dmitry Grinberg
(847) 226 9295


On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:32 AM, David Thacker wrote:

>  Hi Dmitry,
>
> If you look on the "Model Comparison" page on the Aceeca website, you can
> see which CPU is in the MEZ1500.  I understand the PDA32 will have same
> CPU.  I believe the SDRAM is 128MB not the 64MB shown on that chart.  You'll
> have to ask Aceeca for the other specs.
>
> I have an MEZ1500 CE pre-release unit on my desk right now.  I have not
> touched any of the Garnet models yet.
>
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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-02-10 Thread David Thacker
Hi Dmitry,

If you look on the "Model Comparison" page on the Aceeca website, you can see 
which CPU is in the MEZ1500.  I understand the PDA32 will have same CPU.  I 
believe the SDRAM is 128MB not the 64MB shown on that chart.  You'll have to 
ask Aceeca for the other specs.

I have an MEZ1500 CE pre-release unit on my desk right now.  I have not touched 
any of the Garnet models yet.

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  "Dmitry Grinberg" <> wrote in message news:188...@palm-dev-forum...
  any specs? what cpu is being used (part nr), what sound/touchscreen chip? 
what pmu? 
  [asking for obvious reasons: http://dgosblog.blogspot.com/]
  
  Best Regards,
  Dmitry Grinberg
  (847) 226 9295



  On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 2:32 PM, David Thacker <> wrote:

Here's some very interesting news for those of you still dealing in
vertical/industrial markets: Aceeca is bringing several new handhelds to
market in the next couple months, including models running the GarnetOS
(aka PalmOS Garnet) operating system!!

We've just been given clearance to release some info about the new
devices:

1. MEZ1500 CE

This device has been "coming soon" for almost 2 years, but is finally
coming to market, scheduled for release the first week of March.  This
unit runs the Microsoft Windows CE 5.0 operating system.  The MEZ1500
looks very similar to the MEZ1000, but features a QVGA colour screen,
larger battery, side buttons, and additional wireless options compared to
the MEZ1000.  Of course, it features the trademark MZIO expansion port on
the top of the device, for connecting barcode scanner modules, RFID
readers, GPS receiver modules, and so on.  It will support SD memory
expansion also.

We should have a MEZ1500 CE unit here for testing with Satellite Forms in
a few weeks.

List price on the MEZ1500 CE is expected to be $499, plus wireless
options.


2. MEZ1500 Garnet

Aceeca is working with ACCESS (formerly PalmSource) to load the GarnetOS
on the MEZ1500, which will be the first PalmOS 5.x device from Aceeca.
Running on the same hardware as the MEZ1500 CE version, the MEZ1500 garnet
version offers a big speed increase from the MEZ1000, as well as the QVGA
colour screen, twice the battery capacity, WLAN and Bluetooth options, SD
memory expansion, and more.  Aceeca expects to have beta units ready for
testing at about the same time that the MEZ1500 CE version ships.

Both the CE and Garnet versions of the MEZ1500 are built ultra-tough like
their older brother the PalmOS 4.x powered MEZ1000.

List price on the MEZ1500 Garnet is expected to be $499, plus wireless
options.


3. PDA32 CE

This is a brand new handheld that is smaller and less rugged than the
MEZ1000 or MEZ1500 models.  It is just slightly taller than a Palm TX, and
about twice as thick.  It has an ARM CPU, colour QVGA screen, but does NOT
have the MZIO expansion bus, so it will not support add-on modules.  It
will have SD memory expansion, as well as wireless options.  The first
version of this device will run the Windows CE 5.0 OS.

List price on the PDA32 CE is expected to be $199, plus wireless options.
That is not a typo!!


4. PDA32 Garnet

The same hardware as the PDA32 CE version, with the GarnetOS operating
system!  This will be the first new non-smartphone, non-barcode-scanner
GarnetOS powered handheld released within the past couple years, with
multiple wireless options and SD memory expansion.

List price on the PDA32 CE is expected to be $199, plus wireless options.
Amazing!!

The PDA32 models are expected to start shipping in April.

Regards,

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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-02-10 Thread Dmitry Grinberg
any specs? what cpu is being used (part nr), what sound/touchscreen chip?
what pmu?
[asking for obvious reasons: http://dgosblog.blogspot.com/]

Best Regards,
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(847) 226 9295


On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 2:32 PM, David Thacker wrote:

> Here's some very interesting news for those of you still dealing in
> vertical/industrial markets: Aceeca is bringing several new handhelds to
> market in the next couple months, including models running the GarnetOS
> (aka PalmOS Garnet) operating system!!
>
> We've just been given clearance to release some info about the new
> devices:
>
> 1. MEZ1500 CE
>
> This device has been "coming soon" for almost 2 years, but is finally
> coming to market, scheduled for release the first week of March.  This
> unit runs the Microsoft Windows CE 5.0 operating system.  The MEZ1500
> looks very similar to the MEZ1000, but features a QVGA colour screen,
> larger battery, side buttons, and additional wireless options compared to
> the MEZ1000.  Of course, it features the trademark MZIO expansion port on
> the top of the device, for connecting barcode scanner modules, RFID
> readers, GPS receiver modules, and so on.  It will support SD memory
> expansion also.
>
> We should have a MEZ1500 CE unit here for testing with Satellite Forms in
> a few weeks.
>
> List price on the MEZ1500 CE is expected to be $499, plus wireless
> options.
>
>
> 2. MEZ1500 Garnet
>
> Aceeca is working with ACCESS (formerly PalmSource) to load the GarnetOS
> on the MEZ1500, which will be the first PalmOS 5.x device from Aceeca.
> Running on the same hardware as the MEZ1500 CE version, the MEZ1500 garnet
> version offers a big speed increase from the MEZ1000, as well as the QVGA
> colour screen, twice the battery capacity, WLAN and Bluetooth options, SD
> memory expansion, and more.  Aceeca expects to have beta units ready for
> testing at about the same time that the MEZ1500 CE version ships.
>
> Both the CE and Garnet versions of the MEZ1500 are built ultra-tough like
> their older brother the PalmOS 4.x powered MEZ1000.
>
> List price on the MEZ1500 Garnet is expected to be $499, plus wireless
> options.
>
>
> 3. PDA32 CE
>
> This is a brand new handheld that is smaller and less rugged than the
> MEZ1000 or MEZ1500 models.  It is just slightly taller than a Palm TX, and
> about twice as thick.  It has an ARM CPU, colour QVGA screen, but does NOT
> have the MZIO expansion bus, so it will not support add-on modules.  It
> will have SD memory expansion, as well as wireless options.  The first
> version of this device will run the Windows CE 5.0 OS.
>
> List price on the PDA32 CE is expected to be $199, plus wireless options.
> That is not a typo!!
>
>
> 4. PDA32 Garnet
>
> The same hardware as the PDA32 CE version, with the GarnetOS operating
> system!  This will be the first new non-smartphone, non-barcode-scanner
> GarnetOS powered handheld released within the past couple years, with
> multiple wireless options and SD memory expansion.
>
> List price on the PDA32 CE is expected to be $199, plus wireless options.
> Amazing!!
>
> The PDA32 models are expected to start shipping in April.
>
> Regards,
>
> David Thacker
> http://www.SatelliteForms.net
> The Premier RAD Tool for PalmOS & PocketPC
>
>
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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-02-01 Thread Dmitry Grinberg
It is doable, but unlikely. I am busy working on DGOS and on secret
stuff in the startup i work at :)



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On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Lionscribe  wrote:
> The problem is with the 64 bits version of Windows 7.
> They have no 64 bit driver.
> Maybe if we beg Dimitry, he may come to the rescue...
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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-30 Thread Lionscribe
The problem is with the 64 bits version of Windows 7.
They have no 64 bit driver.
Maybe if we beg Dimitry, he may come to the rescue...

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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-21 Thread David Thacker
The Aceeca PDA32 has a full size SD slot on the top exterior of the device, 
not under the battery.

The PDA32 battery is not field replaceable, but it is a whopping 2600mAh in 
capacity, which is more than double what the Palm TX batt capacity was. 
Battery life is not going to be a problem with this unit.

The MEZ1500 does have a field replaceable battery, and is even higher 
capacity than the PDA32.


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"David Thacker" <> wrote in message news:188...@palm-dev-forum...
>I don't know the details yet of which SD format they will have, nor whether 
>the slot is accessible without removing the battery.
>
> FYI the Janam XP units can be ordered with the scanner module removed, 
> saving a couple hundred bucks per unit.  It's not advertised, but it is 
> available.
>
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>
>
> "Ben Rittgers" <> wrote in message news:188...@palm-dev-forum...
>>I asked my boss to order some testing units as soon as they become 
>>available.  Our customers are fed up with the failing digitizers of E2 and 
>>T|X, yet don't want to pay for the high-priced Janam units.
>>
>> Bluetooth is a must as well as some kind of SD feature.  Do you happen to 
>> know what form the SD cards are in: full-size, mini, or micro?  Can you 
>> access the SD card without taking the battery out as in the Janam units?
>>
>> Benjamin
>>
>> David Thacker wrote:
>>> "Luc Le Blanc" <> wrote in message news:188...@palm-dev-forum...
 David Thacker wrote:

> List price on the PDA32 CE is expected to be $199,
> plus wireless options. Amazing!!
 Amazing indeed! What are the wireless options? Wifi (802.11) or 
 Bluetooth? Bluetooth would be most interesting in my case. As for the 
 battery, is it field-replaceable?


 Luc Le Blanc
 http://www.speleo.qc.ca/Auriga
>>>
>>> Hi Luc,
>>>
>>> Yes to 802.11b/g WLAN.
>>>
>>> Yes to Bluetooth (Class 1 !).
>>>
>>> Infrared as well.
>>>
>>> Battery is a 2000mAh lithium polymer battery, but I don't yet know if it 
>>> is field replaceable.  I do know that the MEZ1500 battery is field 
>>> replaceable, but not sure with the PDA32.
>>>
>>
>
>
> 



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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-21 Thread Philip Sheard
Palm's decision to wash their hands of Palm OS is hitting sales of Web OS 
devices. Apparently one of the big selling points of the iPhone over the Palm 
Pre is the Apple appstore.

Who would have expected such a turn of events, from the managerial brainboxes 
at Palm Inc?


From: luis maldonado 
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:12 PM
To: Palm Developer Forum 
Subject: RE: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!


abandoned is putting it EXTREMELY mild, try KIKING IN THE M***R FN A***S
 
> From: llebl...@cam.org
> To: palm-dev-forum@news.palmos.com
> Subject: Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!
> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 05:33:12 -0800
> 
> BTW. Can we expect a new HotSync Manager to run flawlessly with USB under 
> Windows 7 to accompany these new PDAs? Palm seems to have abandoned its 
> earlier customers, betting the farm on webOS. I recently tried to install 
> both the 6.2 and 4.1.4e Palm Desktop+HotSync Manager kits on a new Windows 7 
> PC, and neither was able to sync a T2 over USB.
> 
> 
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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-21 Thread Thomas Lösel

Is "the missing sync" not an alternative?

Am 21.01.2010 um 14:48 schrieb Philip Sheard:

I sync my Treo 680 using 6.2 on Windows 7, and it works very well.  
Unlike 4.1.4e, you have to install COM support if you want to use  
any COM conduits, but that is unlikely for most people.


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Subject: Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From  
Aceeca!


BTW. Can we expect a new HotSync Manager to run flawlessly with USB  
under Windows 7 to accompany these new PDAs? Palm seems to have  
abandoned its earlier customers, betting the farm on webOS. I  
recently tried to install both the 6.2 and 4.1.4e Palm Desktop 
+HotSync Manager kits on a new Windows 7 PC, and neither was able  
to sync a T2 over USB.



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RE: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-21 Thread luis maldonado

abandoned is putting it EXTREMELY mild, try KIKING IN THE M***R FN A***S
 
> From: llebl...@cam.org
> To: palm-dev-forum@news.palmos.com
> Subject: Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!
> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 05:33:12 -0800
> 
> BTW. Can we expect a new HotSync Manager to run flawlessly with USB under 
> Windows 7 to accompany these new PDAs? Palm seems to have abandoned its 
> earlier customers, betting the farm on webOS. I recently tried to install 
> both the 6.2 and 4.1.4e Palm Desktop+HotSync Manager kits on a new Windows 7 
> PC, and neither was able to sync a T2 over USB.
> 
> 
> Luc Le Blanc
> http://www.speleo.qc.ca/Auriga
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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-21 Thread Philip Sheard
I sync my Treo 680 using 6.2 on Windows 7, and it works very well. Unlike 
4.1.4e, you have to install COM support if you want to use any COM conduits, 
but that is unlikely for most people.


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Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:33 PM
To: "Palm Developer Forum" 
Subject: Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

BTW. Can we expect a new HotSync Manager to run flawlessly with USB under 
Windows 7 to accompany these new PDAs? Palm seems to have abandoned its 
earlier customers, betting the farm on webOS. I recently tried to install 
both the 6.2 and 4.1.4e Palm Desktop+HotSync Manager kits on a new Windows 
7 PC, and neither was able to sync a T2 over USB.



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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-21 Thread Luc Le Blanc
BTW. Can we expect a new HotSync Manager to run flawlessly with USB under 
Windows 7 to accompany these new PDAs? Palm seems to have abandoned its earlier 
customers, betting the farm on webOS. I recently tried to install both the 6.2 
and 4.1.4e Palm Desktop+HotSync Manager kits on a new Windows 7 PC, and neither 
was able to sync a T2 over USB.


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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-19 Thread Harry
> If that's not too late, don't hesitate to suggest HVGA to
> Aceeca. And do away with a permanent Graffiti area.
>
> Luc Le Blanc
> http://www.speleo.qc.ca/Auriga

+1
QVGA would be a clear no-go for me. I spent so much over the years on graphical 
UI improvement using kCoordinatesNative for 320x320. Redoing that for QVGA 
would be just too much effort.

I am in the middle of the transition to Android anyway. Well, its Java, but at 
the end of the day you get things done much faster.

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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-19 Thread Harry
Benjamin is right,

the digitizers built in from 2007 on are of lousy quality. It's probably the 
indium tin oxide coating that is of poor quality. I could pick a few hundreds 
of bad digis from our bin and send them to you ... I doubt you can fix a whole 
in the ITO surfacing with a better driver because the behaviour is non-linear 
(i.e. chaotic)...

Harry

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You are kidding right?  They tend to drift and then you go back and 
forth and back and forth hitting the target area after a hard reset. 
The only solution is to send it away for repair or replace the unit 
entirely.  If you got a way to make them work right again with out doing 
  so; please, by all means, share with the rest of us.

Benjamin

Dmitry Grinberg wrote:
> What's wrong with the E2 and TX digitizers? The OS driver for them
> sucks, digitizers themselves are just fine...


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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-19 Thread Roger Stringer

Try dropping your Touch into a puddle, or throwing it into a bag of tools.

Roger Stringer


Subject: Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!
From: "David Thacker" 
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 08:51:53 -0700
X-Message-Number: 5

Well Luis, it really depends on the target market.  The iPod Touch 
is great for consumers/gamers, but the Aceeca handhelds are designed 
for an entirely different customer.  There is obviously room for both.


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  "luis maldonado" <> wrote in message news:188...@palm-dev-forum...
  a little TO LATE, I've discovered the IPOD touch and 
nothing on the arrogant Palm platform comes close


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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-18 Thread Ben Rittgers
You are kidding right?  They tend to drift and then you go back and 
forth and back and forth hitting the target area after a hard reset. 
The only solution is to send it away for repair or replace the unit 
entirely.  If you got a way to make them work right again with out doing 
 so; please, by all means, share with the rest of us.


Benjamin

Dmitry Grinberg wrote:

What's wrong with the E2 and TX digitizers? The OS driver for them
sucks, digitizers themselves are just fine...


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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-18 Thread Ben Rittgers
Then I can use the same code I wrote for the Janams and it should work 
without problem.  Cool.


David Thacker wrote:
The QVGA (quarter VGA) display is 240 wide by 320 high, and is the screen 
format most commonly used on Windows Mobile devices.  The Janam XP30 PalmOS 
scanner uses a colour QVGA screen also.  The Handera 330 had a greyscale 
QVGA screen back in the day.


The GarnetOS automatically scales everything so that software written for 
the standard PalmOS 160x160 works without modification.  Software written 
for 320x320 high density screens will have to be modified to work on QVGA.


480x320 is HVGA (half VGA).



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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-18 Thread Ben Rittgers
We get them like that.  Still more expensive than the price of these new 
Aceeca units.


David Thacker wrote:
I don't know the details yet of which SD format they will have, nor whether 
the slot is accessible without removing the battery.


FYI the Janam XP units can be ordered with the scanner module removed, 
saving a couple hundred bucks per unit.  It's not advertised, but it is 
available.




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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-18 Thread Dmitry Grinberg
What's wrong with the E2 and TX digitizers? The OS driver for them
sucks, digitizers themselves are just fine...

Best Regards,
Dmitry Grinberg
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On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Ben Rittgers  wrote:
> I asked my boss to order some testing units as soon as they become
> available.  Our customers are fed up with the failing digitizers of E2 and
> T|X, yet don't want to pay for the high-priced Janam units.
>
> Bluetooth is a must as well as some kind of SD feature.  Do you happen to
> know what form the SD cards are in: full-size, mini, or micro?  Can you
> access the SD card without taking the battery out as in the Janam units?
>
> Benjamin
>
> David Thacker wrote:
>>
>> "Luc Le Blanc" <> wrote in message news:188...@palm-dev-forum...
>>>
>>> David Thacker wrote:
>>>
 List price on the PDA32 CE is expected to be $199,
 plus wireless options. Amazing!!
>>>
>>> Amazing indeed! What are the wireless options? Wifi (802.11) or
>>> Bluetooth? Bluetooth would be most interesting in my case. As for the
>>> battery, is it field-replaceable?
>>>
>>>
>>> Luc Le Blanc
>>> http://www.speleo.qc.ca/Auriga
>>
>> Hi Luc,
>>
>> Yes to 802.11b/g WLAN.
>>
>> Yes to Bluetooth (Class 1 !).
>>
>> Infrared as well.
>>
>> Battery is a 2000mAh lithium polymer battery, but I don't yet know if it
>> is field replaceable.  I do know that the MEZ1500 battery is field
>> replaceable, but not sure with the PDA32.
>>
>
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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-18 Thread Luc Le Blanc
David Thacker wrote:

> The Janam XP30 PalmOS 
> scanner uses a colour QVGA screen also. The Handera 330 had a
> greyscale QVGA screen back in the day.

> The GarnetOS automatically scales everything so that software
> written for the standard PalmOS 160x160 works without
> modification.  Software written for 320x320 high density screens
> will have to be modified to work on QVGA.

Is there a POSE or Simulator available to test my app with such a display ?

If that's not too late, don't hesitate to suggest HVGA to Aceeca. And do away 
with a permanent Graffiti area.


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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-18 Thread David Thacker
The QVGA (quarter VGA) display is 240 wide by 320 high, and is the screen 
format most commonly used on Windows Mobile devices.  The Janam XP30 PalmOS 
scanner uses a colour QVGA screen also.  The Handera 330 had a greyscale 
QVGA screen back in the day.

The GarnetOS automatically scales everything so that software written for 
the standard PalmOS 160x160 works without modification.  Software written 
for 320x320 high density screens will have to be modified to work on QVGA.

480x320 is HVGA (half VGA).

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"Luc Le Blanc" <> wrote in message news:188...@palm-dev-forum...
> What's a QVGA display? 320x240 as Wikipedia says? My TX is 480x320.
>
>
> Luc Le Blanc
> http://www.speleo.qc.ca/Auriga
> 



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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-18 Thread David Thacker
I don't know the details yet of which SD format they will have, nor whether 
the slot is accessible without removing the battery.

FYI the Janam XP units can be ordered with the scanner module removed, 
saving a couple hundred bucks per unit.  It's not advertised, but it is 
available.

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"Ben Rittgers" <> wrote in message news:188...@palm-dev-forum...
>I asked my boss to order some testing units as soon as they become 
>available.  Our customers are fed up with the failing digitizers of E2 and 
>T|X, yet don't want to pay for the high-priced Janam units.
>
> Bluetooth is a must as well as some kind of SD feature.  Do you happen to 
> know what form the SD cards are in: full-size, mini, or micro?  Can you 
> access the SD card without taking the battery out as in the Janam units?
>
> Benjamin
>
> David Thacker wrote:
>> "Luc Le Blanc" <> wrote in message news:188...@palm-dev-forum...
>>> David Thacker wrote:
>>>
 List price on the PDA32 CE is expected to be $199,
 plus wireless options. Amazing!!
>>> Amazing indeed! What are the wireless options? Wifi (802.11) or 
>>> Bluetooth? Bluetooth would be most interesting in my case. As for the 
>>> battery, is it field-replaceable?
>>>
>>>
>>> Luc Le Blanc
>>> http://www.speleo.qc.ca/Auriga
>>
>> Hi Luc,
>>
>> Yes to 802.11b/g WLAN.
>>
>> Yes to Bluetooth (Class 1 !).
>>
>> Infrared as well.
>>
>> Battery is a 2000mAh lithium polymer battery, but I don't yet know if it 
>> is field replaceable.  I do know that the MEZ1500 battery is field 
>> replaceable, but not sure with the PDA32.
>>
> 



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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-18 Thread Luc Le Blanc
What's a QVGA display? 320x240 as Wikipedia says? My TX is 480x320.


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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-18 Thread Ben Rittgers
I asked my boss to order some testing units as soon as they become 
available.  Our customers are fed up with the failing digitizers of E2 
and T|X, yet don't want to pay for the high-priced Janam units.


Bluetooth is a must as well as some kind of SD feature.  Do you happen 
to know what form the SD cards are in: full-size, mini, or micro?  Can 
you access the SD card without taking the battery out as in the Janam units?


Benjamin

David Thacker wrote:

"Luc Le Blanc" <> wrote in message news:188...@palm-dev-forum...

David Thacker wrote:


List price on the PDA32 CE is expected to be $199,
plus wireless options. Amazing!!
Amazing indeed! What are the wireless options? Wifi (802.11) or Bluetooth? 
Bluetooth would be most interesting in my case. As for the battery, is it 
field-replaceable?



Luc Le Blanc
http://www.speleo.qc.ca/Auriga


Hi Luc,

Yes to 802.11b/g WLAN.

Yes to Bluetooth (Class 1 !).

Infrared as well.

Battery is a 2000mAh lithium polymer battery, but I don't yet know if it is 
field replaceable.  I do know that the MEZ1500 battery is field replaceable, 
but not sure with the PDA32.




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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-18 Thread David Thacker
If you had followed the MEZ1500 (and formerly the MEZ2000) story from the 
beginning back in 2007, you would understand why Aceeca is hesitant to say 
too much before they are actually ready to ship.

After pleading with them for several months, I finally got permission from 
the Aceeca CEO to start spreading this news, so that folks who are right now 
deciding whether to move from PalmOS to a new platform can be aware of the 
new PalmOS handheld options that are forthcoming.  I know firsthand (from 
our customers) that there are many developers who would benefit from knowing 
that there are new GarnetOS devices coming to replace the low cost handhelds 
that used to be available from Palm Inc.

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"Luc Le Blanc" <> wrote in message news:188...@palm-dev-forum...
> How come this news is delivered by a software provider and not the 
> hardware maker? The Acceca website remains silent about these new PDAs.
>
>
> Luc Le Blanc
> http://www.speleo.qc.ca/Auriga
> 



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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-18 Thread Don Albertson

Luc Le Blanc wrote:

How come this news is delivered by a software provider and not the hardware 
maker? The Acceca website remains silent about these new PDAs.


Luc Le Blanc
http://www.speleo.qc.ca/Auriga
  
Probably for the same reason that Apple is being so forthcoming about 
the new iDon'tGiveADamn tablet.

dga


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re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-18 Thread Luc Le Blanc
How come this news is delivered by a software provider and not the hardware 
maker? The Acceca website remains silent about these new PDAs.


Luc Le Blanc
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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-18 Thread Edward Jones
Thanks for the quick response. I await with interest further news and 
pictures of the MEZ1500 and the PDA32 as I am running very low on Palm 
TXs for my customers and would like to avoid having to migrate to 
windows mobile if at all possible!


Regards


Edward Jones

David Thacker wrote:
I am sure these new models from Aceeca will be available from Varlink in the 
UK, as they are the current UK distributor for Aceeca products.




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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-18 Thread David Thacker
Well Luis, it really depends on the target market.  The iPod Touch is great for 
consumers/gamers, but the Aceeca handhelds are designed for an entirely 
different customer.  There is obviously room for both.

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  "luis maldonado" <> wrote in message news:188...@palm-dev-forum...
  a little TO LATE, I've discovered the IPOD touch and nothing on the 
arrogant Palm platform comes close
   
   

   
  > From: 
  > Subject: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!
  > Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:32:24 -0700
  > To: palm-dev-forum@news.palmos.com
  > 
  > Here's some very interesting news for those of you still dealing in
  > vertical/industrial markets: Aceeca is bringing several new handhelds to
  > market in the next couple months, including models running the GarnetOS
  > (aka PalmOS Garnet) operating system!!
  > 
  > We've just been given clearance to release some info about the new
  > devices:
  > 
  > 1. MEZ1500 CE
  > 
  > This device has been "coming soon" for almost 2 years, but is finally
  > coming to market, scheduled for release the first week of March. This
  > unit runs the Microsoft Windows CE 5.0 operating system. The MEZ1500
  > looks very similar to the MEZ1000, but features a QVGA colour screen,
  > larger battery, side buttons, and additional wireless options compared to
  > the MEZ1000. Of course, it features the trademark MZIO expansion port on
  > the top of the device, for connecting barcode scanner modules, RFID
  > readers, GPS receiver modules, and so on. It will support SD memory
  > expansion also.
  > 
  > We should have a MEZ1500 CE unit here for testing with Satellite Forms in
  > a few weeks.
  > 
  > List price on the MEZ1500 CE is expected to be $499, plus wireless
  > options.
  > 
  > 
  > 2. MEZ1500 Garnet
  > 
  > Aceeca is working with ACCESS (formerly PalmSource) to load the GarnetOS
  > on the MEZ1500, which will be the first PalmOS 5.x device from Aceeca.
  > Running on the same hardware as the MEZ1500 CE version, the MEZ1500 garnet
  > version offers a big speed increase from the MEZ1000, as well as the QVGA
  > colour screen, twice the battery capacity, WLAN and Bluetooth options, SD
  > memory expansion, and more. Aceeca expects to have beta units ready for
  > testing at about the same time that the MEZ1500 CE version ships.
  > 
  > Both the CE and Garnet versions of the MEZ1500 are built ultra-tough like
  > their older brother the PalmOS 4.x powered MEZ1000.
  > 
  > List price on the MEZ1500 Garnet is expected to be $499, plus wireless
  > options.
  > 
  > 
  > 3. PDA32 CE
  > 
  > This is a brand new handheld that is smaller and less rugged than the
  > MEZ1000 or MEZ1500 models. It is just slightly taller than a Palm TX, and
  > about twice as thick. It has an ARM CPU, colour QVGA screen, but does NOT
  > have the MZIO expansion bus, so it will not support add-on modules. It
  > will have SD memory expansion, as well as wireless options. The first
  > version of this device will run the Windows CE 5.0 OS..
  > 
  > List price on the PDA32 CE is expected to be $199, plus wireless options.
  > That is not a typo!!
  > 
  > 
  > 4. PDA32 Garnet
  > 
  > The same hardware as the PDA32 CE version, with the GarnetOS operating
  > system! This will be the first new non-smartphone, non-barcode-scanner
  > GarnetOS powered handheld released within the past couple years, with
  > multiple wireless options and SD memory expansion.
  > 
  > List price on the PDA32 CE is expected to be $199, plus wireless options.
  > Amazing!!
  > 
  > The PDA32 models are expected to start shipping in April.
  > 
  > Regards,
  > 
  > David Thacker
  > http://www.SatelliteForms.net
  > The Premier RAD Tool for PalmOS & PocketPC
  > 
  > 
  > 
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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-18 Thread David Thacker
I am sure these new models from Aceeca will be available from Varlink in the 
UK, as they are the current UK distributor for Aceeca products.

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"Edward Jones" <> wrote in message news:188...@palm-dev-forum...
> Very interesting indeed - any news on availability in the UK?
>
>
> Regards
>
> Edward Jones
>
> David Thacker wrote:
>> Here's some very interesting news for those of you still dealing in
>> vertical/industrial markets: Aceeca is bringing several new handhelds to
>> market in the next couple months, including models running the GarnetOS
>> (aka PalmOS Garnet) operating system!!
>>
>> We've just been given clearance to release some info about the new
>> devices:
>>
>> 1. MEZ1500 CE
>>
>> This device has been "coming soon" for almost 2 years, but is finally
>> coming to market, scheduled for release the first week of March.  This
>> unit runs the Microsoft Windows CE 5.0 operating system.  The MEZ1500
>> looks very similar to the MEZ1000, but features a QVGA colour screen,
>> larger battery, side buttons, and additional wireless options compared to
>> the MEZ1000.  Of course, it features the trademark MZIO expansion port on
>> the top of the device, for connecting barcode scanner modules, RFID
>> readers, GPS receiver modules, and so on.  It will support SD memory
>> expansion also.
>>
>> We should have a MEZ1500 CE unit here for testing with Satellite Forms in
>> a few weeks.
>>
>> List price on the MEZ1500 CE is expected to be $499, plus wireless
>> options.
>>
>>
>> 2. MEZ1500 Garnet
>>
>> Aceeca is working with ACCESS (formerly PalmSource) to load the GarnetOS
>> on the MEZ1500, which will be the first PalmOS 5.x device from Aceeca.
>> Running on the same hardware as the MEZ1500 CE version, the MEZ1500 
>> garnet
>> version offers a big speed increase from the MEZ1000, as well as the QVGA
>> colour screen, twice the battery capacity, WLAN and Bluetooth options, SD
>> memory expansion, and more.  Aceeca expects to have beta units ready for
>> testing at about the same time that the MEZ1500 CE version ships.
>>
>> Both the CE and Garnet versions of the MEZ1500 are built ultra-tough like
>> their older brother the PalmOS 4.x powered MEZ1000.
>>
>> List price on the MEZ1500 Garnet is expected to be $499, plus wireless
>> options.
>>
>>
>> 3. PDA32 CE
>>
>> This is a brand new handheld that is smaller and less rugged than the
>> MEZ1000 or MEZ1500 models.  It is just slightly taller than a Palm TX, 
>> and
>> about twice as thick.  It has an ARM CPU, colour QVGA screen, but does 
>> NOT
>> have the MZIO expansion bus, so it will not support add-on modules.  It
>> will have SD memory expansion, as well as wireless options.  The first
>> version of this device will run the Windows CE 5.0 OS.
>>
>> List price on the PDA32 CE is expected to be $199, plus wireless options.
>> That is not a typo!!
>>
>>
>> 4. PDA32 Garnet
>>
>> The same hardware as the PDA32 CE version, with the GarnetOS operating
>> system!  This will be the first new non-smartphone, non-barcode-scanner
>> GarnetOS powered handheld released within the past couple years, with
>> multiple wireless options and SD memory expansion.
>>
>> List price on the PDA32 CE is expected to be $199, plus wireless options.
>> Amazing!!
>>
>> The PDA32 models are expected to start shipping in April.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> David Thacker
>> http://www.SatelliteForms.net
>> The Premier RAD Tool for PalmOS & PocketPC
>>
>>
>>
> 



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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-18 Thread David Thacker
"Luc Le Blanc" <> wrote in message news:188...@palm-dev-forum...
> David Thacker wrote:
>
>> List price on the PDA32 CE is expected to be $199,
>> plus wireless options. Amazing!!
>
> Amazing indeed! What are the wireless options? Wifi (802.11) or Bluetooth? 
> Bluetooth would be most interesting in my case. As for the battery, is it 
> field-replaceable?
>
>
> Luc Le Blanc
> http://www.speleo.qc.ca/Auriga

Hi Luc,

Yes to 802.11b/g WLAN.

Yes to Bluetooth (Class 1 !).

Infrared as well.

Battery is a 2000mAh lithium polymer battery, but I don't yet know if it is 
field replaceable.  I do know that the MEZ1500 battery is field replaceable, 
but not sure with the PDA32.

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RE: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-18 Thread luis maldonado

a little TO LATE, I've discovered the IPOD touch and nothing on the 
arrogant Palm platform comes close

 

 


 
> From: da...@pocketscience.ca
> Subject: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!
> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:32:24 -0700
> To: palm-dev-forum@news.palmos.com
> 
> Here's some very interesting news for those of you still dealing in
> vertical/industrial markets: Aceeca is bringing several new handhelds to
> market in the next couple months, including models running the GarnetOS
> (aka PalmOS Garnet) operating system!!
> 
> We've just been given clearance to release some info about the new
> devices:
> 
> 1. MEZ1500 CE
> 
> This device has been "coming soon" for almost 2 years, but is finally
> coming to market, scheduled for release the first week of March. This
> unit runs the Microsoft Windows CE 5.0 operating system. The MEZ1500
> looks very similar to the MEZ1000, but features a QVGA colour screen,
> larger battery, side buttons, and additional wireless options compared to
> the MEZ1000. Of course, it features the trademark MZIO expansion port on
> the top of the device, for connecting barcode scanner modules, RFID
> readers, GPS receiver modules, and so on. It will support SD memory
> expansion also.
> 
> We should have a MEZ1500 CE unit here for testing with Satellite Forms in
> a few weeks.
> 
> List price on the MEZ1500 CE is expected to be $499, plus wireless
> options.
> 
> 
> 2. MEZ1500 Garnet
> 
> Aceeca is working with ACCESS (formerly PalmSource) to load the GarnetOS
> on the MEZ1500, which will be the first PalmOS 5.x device from Aceeca.
> Running on the same hardware as the MEZ1500 CE version, the MEZ1500 garnet
> version offers a big speed increase from the MEZ1000, as well as the QVGA
> colour screen, twice the battery capacity, WLAN and Bluetooth options, SD
> memory expansion, and more. Aceeca expects to have beta units ready for
> testing at about the same time that the MEZ1500 CE version ships.
> 
> Both the CE and Garnet versions of the MEZ1500 are built ultra-tough like
> their older brother the PalmOS 4.x powered MEZ1000.
> 
> List price on the MEZ1500 Garnet is expected to be $499, plus wireless
> options.
> 
> 
> 3. PDA32 CE
> 
> This is a brand new handheld that is smaller and less rugged than the
> MEZ1000 or MEZ1500 models. It is just slightly taller than a Palm TX, and
> about twice as thick. It has an ARM CPU, colour QVGA screen, but does NOT
> have the MZIO expansion bus, so it will not support add-on modules. It
> will have SD memory expansion, as well as wireless options. The first
> version of this device will run the Windows CE 5.0 OS.
> 
> List price on the PDA32 CE is expected to be $199, plus wireless options.
> That is not a typo!!
> 
> 
> 4. PDA32 Garnet
> 
> The same hardware as the PDA32 CE version, with the GarnetOS operating
> system! This will be the first new non-smartphone, non-barcode-scanner
> GarnetOS powered handheld released within the past couple years, with
> multiple wireless options and SD memory expansion.
> 
> List price on the PDA32 CE is expected to be $199, plus wireless options.
> Amazing!!
> 
> The PDA32 models are expected to start shipping in April.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> David Thacker
> http://www.SatelliteForms.net
> The Premier RAD Tool for PalmOS & PocketPC
> 
> 
> 
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Re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-18 Thread Edward Jones

Very interesting indeed - any news on availability in the UK?


Regards

Edward Jones

David Thacker wrote:

Here's some very interesting news for those of you still dealing in
vertical/industrial markets: Aceeca is bringing several new handhelds to
market in the next couple months, including models running the GarnetOS
(aka PalmOS Garnet) operating system!!

We've just been given clearance to release some info about the new
devices:

1. MEZ1500 CE

This device has been "coming soon" for almost 2 years, but is finally
coming to market, scheduled for release the first week of March.  This
unit runs the Microsoft Windows CE 5.0 operating system.  The MEZ1500
looks very similar to the MEZ1000, but features a QVGA colour screen,
larger battery, side buttons, and additional wireless options compared to
the MEZ1000.  Of course, it features the trademark MZIO expansion port on
the top of the device, for connecting barcode scanner modules, RFID
readers, GPS receiver modules, and so on.  It will support SD memory
expansion also.

We should have a MEZ1500 CE unit here for testing with Satellite Forms in
a few weeks.

List price on the MEZ1500 CE is expected to be $499, plus wireless
options.


2. MEZ1500 Garnet

Aceeca is working with ACCESS (formerly PalmSource) to load the GarnetOS
on the MEZ1500, which will be the first PalmOS 5.x device from Aceeca.
Running on the same hardware as the MEZ1500 CE version, the MEZ1500 garnet
version offers a big speed increase from the MEZ1000, as well as the QVGA
colour screen, twice the battery capacity, WLAN and Bluetooth options, SD
memory expansion, and more.  Aceeca expects to have beta units ready for
testing at about the same time that the MEZ1500 CE version ships.

Both the CE and Garnet versions of the MEZ1500 are built ultra-tough like
their older brother the PalmOS 4.x powered MEZ1000.

List price on the MEZ1500 Garnet is expected to be $499, plus wireless
options.


3. PDA32 CE

This is a brand new handheld that is smaller and less rugged than the
MEZ1000 or MEZ1500 models.  It is just slightly taller than a Palm TX, and
about twice as thick.  It has an ARM CPU, colour QVGA screen, but does NOT
have the MZIO expansion bus, so it will not support add-on modules.  It
will have SD memory expansion, as well as wireless options.  The first
version of this device will run the Windows CE 5.0 OS.

List price on the PDA32 CE is expected to be $199, plus wireless options.
That is not a typo!!


4. PDA32 Garnet

The same hardware as the PDA32 CE version, with the GarnetOS operating
system!  This will be the first new non-smartphone, non-barcode-scanner
GarnetOS powered handheld released within the past couple years, with
multiple wireless options and SD memory expansion.

List price on the PDA32 CE is expected to be $199, plus wireless options.
Amazing!!

The PDA32 models are expected to start shipping in April.

Regards,

David Thacker
http://www.SatelliteForms.net
The Premier RAD Tool for PalmOS & PocketPC





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re: SCOOP: New GarnetOS (PalmOS) Handhelds Coming From Aceeca!

2010-01-17 Thread Luc Le Blanc
David Thacker wrote:

> List price on the PDA32 CE is expected to be $199,
> plus wireless options. Amazing!!

Amazing indeed! What are the wireless options? Wifi (802.11) or Bluetooth? 
Bluetooth would be most interesting in my case. As for the battery, is it 
field-replaceable?


Luc Le Blanc
http://www.speleo.qc.ca/Auriga



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