[Paraview] please help do constuct 3d surface chart from csv file

2010-04-16 Thread Chris Botha
Hi

I want to use Paraview to construct a 3d surface chart from data that
I have in a csv file.

The data does not need any further manipulation. The file consists of
3 columns representing the x,y,z values of the points that I want to
plot

I have been able to open the file in Paraview  - and applied the
"table to points" filter. I can see the data in the spreadsheet view
but do not know how to create a 3d view. When I split the window and
click the 3d view option nothing is displayed.

Regards

Chris
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Re: [Paraview] please help do constuct 3d surface chart from csv file

2010-04-17 Thread Utkarsh Ayachit
Once you split and create the 3D view, click on the eyeball next to
the "Table To Points" filter to turn visibility of the data generated
by that filter in the 3D view to ON.

Utkarsh

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Chris Botha  wrote:
> Hi
>
> I want to use Paraview to construct a 3d surface chart from data that
> I have in a csv file.
>
> The data does not need any further manipulation. The file consists of
> 3 columns representing the x,y,z values of the points that I want to
> plot
>
> I have been able to open the file in Paraview  - and applied the
> "table to points" filter. I can see the data in the spreadsheet view
> but do not know how to create a 3d view. When I split the window and
> click the 3d view option nothing is displayed.
>
> Regards
>
> Chris
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Re: [Paraview] please help do constuct 3d surface chart from csv file

2010-04-17 Thread Berk Geveci
After that, you'll probably need delaunay 2d.

-berk

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:56 AM, Utkarsh Ayachit
 wrote:
> Once you split and create the 3D view, click on the eyeball next to
> the "Table To Points" filter to turn visibility of the data generated
> by that filter in the 3D view to ON.
>
> Utkarsh
>
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Chris Botha  wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> I want to use Paraview to construct a 3d surface chart from data that
>> I have in a csv file.
>>
>> The data does not need any further manipulation. The file consists of
>> 3 columns representing the x,y,z values of the points that I want to
>> plot
>>
>> I have been able to open the file in Paraview  - and applied the
>> "table to points" filter. I can see the data in the spreadsheet view
>> but do not know how to create a 3d view. When I split the window and
>> click the 3d view option nothing is displayed.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Chris
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Re: [Paraview] please help do constuct 3d surface chart from csv file

2010-04-19 Thread Utkarsh Ayachit
If the issue is indeed scale, then you can apply the Transform filter
to scale the points.

Utkarsh

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Chris Botha  wrote:
> Utkarsh/Berk
>
> Thank you both for taking the time to reply to my question.
>
> I have done what you have suggested - and made some progress. I still
> however do not see what I expect.
>
> After making sure that the "table to points" is selected I do see a 3D
> view of something - the points are stretched along the Z axis - very
> close to the axis - and not spread out as I would expect. When I apply
> Delauny 2d it of course draws lines between the stretched out points
> along the Z axis.
>
> I have attached the following for you to see what I mean:
> paraviewdots.png - screen shot of dots along the Z axis
> surface3d.png - what I would like to see - made with another program
> off the same data.
>
> I have also attached the file that contains the data that I am trying
> to see as a 3D surface chart - the file is four.csv. In the
> paraviewdots file I have selected :
> x = posdista
> y = negdista
> z = fitness
>
> I assume that the problem has to do with scale somehow - and have
> tried to find the correct settings to change - but have been unable to
> and would therefore greatly appreciate your help
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Berk Geveci  wrote:
>> After that, you'll probably need delaunay 2d.
>>
>> -berk
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:56 AM, Utkarsh Ayachit
>>  wrote:
>>> Once you split and create the 3D view, click on the eyeball next to
>>> the "Table To Points" filter to turn visibility of the data generated
>>> by that filter in the 3D view to ON.
>>>
>>> Utkarsh
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Chris Botha  wrote:
 Hi

 I want to use Paraview to construct a 3d surface chart from data that
 I have in a csv file.

 The data does not need any further manipulation. The file consists of
 3 columns representing the x,y,z values of the points that I want to
 plot

 I have been able to open the file in Paraview  - and applied the
 "table to points" filter. I can see the data in the spreadsheet view
 but do not know how to create a 3d view. When I split the window and
 click the 3d view option nothing is displayed.

 Regards

 Chris
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Re: [Paraview] please help do constuct 3d surface chart from csv file

2010-04-21 Thread Chris Botha
Utkarsh

I am a new user to Paraview - and therefore do not know what to do
when you say to apply the transform filter. I therefore searched the
web for more information on how to apply the transform filter in
Paraview. The best I could find was here :
http://www.paraview.org/pipermail/paraview/2009-March/011560.html  - I
was able to use that answer to apply the scale that I need.

I have also applied the Delaunay filter - and now have a 3d surface
chart that I wanted!

What do I need to do to see the coordinates of the cursor as I move it
over the surface chart? I need to see the values of the local maximum.

Regards

Chris


On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Utkarsh Ayachit
 wrote:
> If the issue is indeed scale, then you can apply the Transform filter
> to scale the points.
>
> Utkarsh
>
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Chris Botha  wrote:
>> Utkarsh/Berk
>>
>> Thank you both for taking the time to reply to my question.
>>
>> I have done what you have suggested - and made some progress. I still
>> however do not see what I expect.
>>
>> After making sure that the "table to points" is selected I do see a 3D
>> view of something - the points are stretched along the Z axis - very
>> close to the axis - and not spread out as I would expect. When I apply
>> Delauny 2d it of course draws lines between the stretched out points
>> along the Z axis.
>>
>> I have attached the following for you to see what I mean:
>> paraviewdots.png - screen shot of dots along the Z axis
>> surface3d.png - what I would like to see - made with another program
>> off the same data.
>>
>> I have also attached the file that contains the data that I am trying
>> to see as a 3D surface chart - the file is four.csv. In the
>> paraviewdots file I have selected :
>> x = posdista
>> y = negdista
>> z = fitness
>>
>> I assume that the problem has to do with scale somehow - and have
>> tried to find the correct settings to change - but have been unable to
>> and would therefore greatly appreciate your help
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Berk Geveci  wrote:
>>> After that, you'll probably need delaunay 2d.
>>>
>>> -berk
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:56 AM, Utkarsh Ayachit
>>>  wrote:
 Once you split and create the 3D view, click on the eyeball next to
 the "Table To Points" filter to turn visibility of the data generated
 by that filter in the 3D view to ON.

 Utkarsh

 On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Chris Botha  
 wrote:
> Hi
>
> I want to use Paraview to construct a 3d surface chart from data that
> I have in a csv file.
>
> The data does not need any further manipulation. The file consists of
> 3 columns representing the x,y,z values of the points that I want to
> plot
>
> I have been able to open the file in Paraview  - and applied the
> "table to points" filter. I can see the data in the spreadsheet view
> but do not know how to create a 3d view. When I split the window and
> click the 3d view option nothing is displayed.
>
> Regards
>
> Chris
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Re: [Paraview] please help do constuct 3d surface chart from csv file

2010-04-21 Thread Eric E. Monson
Hey Chris,

Yes, you are on the right track with that mailing list entry. If you want to 
actually transform the values of the points, just go to Filters->Transform and 
then enter a factor between 0 and 1 in the appropriate Scale box (e.g. 0.2 in 
the third Scale column will multiply the Z values by 0.2). If you want to keep 
the original data values, but just scale the display, then go to the Display 
tab in the Object Inspector and all the way down at the bottom is a 
Transformation section where you can do the same sort of Scale entry.

ParaView doesn't support hovering labels right now, but you can tell it to 
label selected points. Use one of the point selection tools to select some 
points on your grid. Then, go to View->Selection Inspector. At the bottom of 
that panel there is a Display Style section. If you hit the Point Label tab and 
check the Visible box you'll see PointID and other attributes in the Label Mode 
combo-box. If your point coordinates are not there, then you can apply the 
Calculator filter to your data: Attribute Mode: Point Data, Result Array Name: 
Coordinates (or something like that), Equation (next box down): coords (which 
you can get by pulling down on the Vectors button on the lower right. After you 
hit apply the coordinates of your points will be an explicit vector attribute 
of your point data, and this new vector should show up in the Label Mode combo 
box for Point Label.

Talk to you later,
-Eric

--
Eric E Monson
Duke Visualization Technology Group


On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:27 AM, Chris Botha wrote:

> Utkarsh
> 
> I am a new user to Paraview - and therefore do not know what to do
> when you say to apply the transform filter. I therefore searched the
> web for more information on how to apply the transform filter in
> Paraview. The best I could find was here :
> http://www.paraview.org/pipermail/paraview/2009-March/011560.html  - I
> was able to use that answer to apply the scale that I need.
> 
> I have also applied the Delaunay filter - and now have a 3d surface
> chart that I wanted!
> 
> What do I need to do to see the coordinates of the cursor as I move it
> over the surface chart? I need to see the values of the local maximum.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Utkarsh Ayachit
>  wrote:
>> If the issue is indeed scale, then you can apply the Transform filter
>> to scale the points.
>> 
>> Utkarsh
>> 
>> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Chris Botha  wrote:
>>> Utkarsh/Berk
>>> 
>>> Thank you both for taking the time to reply to my question.
>>> 
>>> I have done what you have suggested - and made some progress. I still
>>> however do not see what I expect.
>>> 
>>> After making sure that the "table to points" is selected I do see a 3D
>>> view of something - the points are stretched along the Z axis - very
>>> close to the axis - and not spread out as I would expect. When I apply
>>> Delauny 2d it of course draws lines between the stretched out points
>>> along the Z axis.
>>> 
>>> I have attached the following for you to see what I mean:
>>> paraviewdots.png - screen shot of dots along the Z axis
>>> surface3d.png - what I would like to see - made with another program
>>> off the same data.
>>> 
>>> I have also attached the file that contains the data that I am trying
>>> to see as a 3D surface chart - the file is four.csv. In the
>>> paraviewdots file I have selected :
>>> x = posdista
>>> y = negdista
>>> z = fitness
>>> 
>>> I assume that the problem has to do with scale somehow - and have
>>> tried to find the correct settings to change - but have been unable to
>>> and would therefore greatly appreciate your help
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Berk Geveci  
>>> wrote:
 After that, you'll probably need delaunay 2d.
 
 -berk
 
 On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 3:56 AM, Utkarsh Ayachit
  wrote:
> Once you split and create the 3D view, click on the eyeball next to
> the "Table To Points" filter to turn visibility of the data generated
> by that filter in the 3D view to ON.
> 
> Utkarsh
> 
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Chris Botha  
> wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> I want to use Paraview to construct a 3d surface chart from data that
>> I have in a csv file.
>> 
>> The data does not need any further manipulation. The file consists of
>> 3 columns representing the x,y,z values of the points that I want to
>> plot
>> 
>> I have been able to open the file in Paraview  - and applied the
>> "table to points" filter. I can see the data in the spreadsheet view
>> but do not know how to create a 3d view. When I split the window and
>> click the 3d view option nothing is displayed.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Chris
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Re: [Paraview] please help do constuct 3d surface chart from csv file

2010-04-22 Thread Chris Botha
Eric

Please know that I really appreciate the time you took to answer my
query. I have done what you have suggested - and it brought me closer
to what I want. Unfortunately it still does not do exactly what I
want. I am at the point of accepting that Paraview is not what I need
because:
1) When I transform the data so that the scales of the surface chart
appears in proportion the actual data is transformed - I want to
adjust the scales of the axis only - not the data because when I
select the data I then have to divide the result again by the scale
factor to know whet the actual values are.
2) It seem the Delaunay 2d filter seems to decrease the resolution of
my data by drawing triangles only between major points. The ideal for
me would be to not have any data manipulation at all - Paraview seems
to be too powerful.
3) Learning how to do things is not easy - I would prefer a chat board
/ bulletin board over an email list - to see if other people has tried
the same as what I am trying. There is nothing new under the sun.

Regards

Chris


On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Eric E. Monson  wrote:
> Hey Chris,
>
> Yes, you are on the right track with that mailing list entry. If you want to 
> actually transform the values of the points, just go to Filters->Transform 
> and then enter a factor between 0 and 1 in the appropriate Scale box (e.g. 
> 0.2 in the third Scale column will multiply the Z values by 0.2). If you want 
> to keep the original data values, but just scale the display, then go to the 
> Display tab in the Object Inspector and all the way down at the bottom is a 
> Transformation section where you can do the same sort of Scale entry.
>
> ParaView doesn't support hovering labels right now, but you can tell it to 
> label selected points. Use one of the point selection tools to select some 
> points on your grid. Then, go to View->Selection Inspector. At the bottom of 
> that panel there is a Display Style section. If you hit the Point Label tab 
> and check the Visible box you'll see PointID and other attributes in the 
> Label Mode combo-box. If your point coordinates are not there, then you can 
> apply the Calculator filter to your data: Attribute Mode: Point Data, Result 
> Array Name: Coordinates (or something like that), Equation (next box down): 
> coords (which you can get by pulling down on the Vectors button on the lower 
> right. After you hit apply the coordinates of your points will be an explicit 
> vector attribute of your point data, and this new vector should show up in 
> the Label Mode combo box for Point Label.
>
> Talk to you later,
> -Eric
>
> --
> Eric E Monson
> Duke Visualization Technology Group
>
>
> On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:27 AM, Chris Botha wrote:
>
>> Utkarsh
>>
>> I am a new user to Paraview - and therefore do not know what to do
>> when you say to apply the transform filter. I therefore searched the
>> web for more information on how to apply the transform filter in
>> Paraview. The best I could find was here :
>> http://www.paraview.org/pipermail/paraview/2009-March/011560.html  - I
>> was able to use that answer to apply the scale that I need.
>>
>> I have also applied the Delaunay filter - and now have a 3d surface
>> chart that I wanted!
>>
>> What do I need to do to see the coordinates of the cursor as I move it
>> over the surface chart? I need to see the values of the local maximum.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Utkarsh Ayachit
>>  wrote:
>>> If the issue is indeed scale, then you can apply the Transform filter
>>> to scale the points.
>>>
>>> Utkarsh
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Chris Botha  wrote:
 Utkarsh/Berk

 Thank you both for taking the time to reply to my question.

 I have done what you have suggested - and made some progress. I still
 however do not see what I expect.

 After making sure that the "table to points" is selected I do see a 3D
 view of something - the points are stretched along the Z axis - very
 close to the axis - and not spread out as I would expect. When I apply
 Delauny 2d it of course draws lines between the stretched out points
 along the Z axis.

 I have attached the following for you to see what I mean:
 paraviewdots.png - screen shot of dots along the Z axis
 surface3d.png - what I would like to see - made with another program
 off the same data.

 I have also attached the file that contains the data that I am trying
 to see as a 3D surface chart - the file is four.csv. In the
 paraviewdots file I have selected :
 x = posdista
 y = negdista
 z = fitness

 I assume that the problem has to do with scale somehow - and have
 tried to find the correct settings to change - but have been unable to
 and would therefore greatly appreciate your help

 Regards



 On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Berk G

Re: [Paraview] please help do constuct 3d surface chart from csv file

2010-04-22 Thread Eric E. Monson
Hey Chris,

1.) That is the point of the transformation which is in the Display tab -- it 
doesn't actually transform the data, only the display (the Transform Filter 
actually changes the data). So, with that Display transform the visual 
representation looks different but the data values are still the original.

2.) That seems strange. I thought it should use all points, but I'm definitely 
not an expert on Delaunay2D. How does it seem to determine "major points"?

3.) Sorry it's not working out for you. ParaView is definitely not always the 
most intuitive tool for beginners, but feel free to pass things by us in the 
future if you want to try again.

Good luck,
-Eric


On Apr 22, 2010, at 11:20 AM, Chris Botha wrote:

> Eric
> 
> Please know that I really appreciate the time you took to answer my
> query. I have done what you have suggested - and it brought me closer
> to what I want. Unfortunately it still does not do exactly what I
> want. I am at the point of accepting that Paraview is not what I need
> because:
> 1) When I transform the data so that the scales of the surface chart
> appears in proportion the actual data is transformed - I want to
> adjust the scales of the axis only - not the data because when I
> select the data I then have to divide the result again by the scale
> factor to know whet the actual values are.
> 2) It seem the Delaunay 2d filter seems to decrease the resolution of
> my data by drawing triangles only between major points. The ideal for
> me would be to not have any data manipulation at all - Paraview seems
> to be too powerful.
> 3) Learning how to do things is not easy - I would prefer a chat board
> / bulletin board over an email list - to see if other people has tried
> the same as what I am trying. There is nothing new under the sun.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 3:06 PM, Eric E. Monson  wrote:
>> Hey Chris,
>> 
>> Yes, you are on the right track with that mailing list entry. If you want to 
>> actually transform the values of the points, just go to Filters->Transform 
>> and then enter a factor between 0 and 1 in the appropriate Scale box (e.g. 
>> 0.2 in the third Scale column will multiply the Z values by 0.2). If you 
>> want to keep the original data values, but just scale the display, then go 
>> to the Display tab in the Object Inspector and all the way down at the 
>> bottom is a Transformation section where you can do the same sort of Scale 
>> entry.
>> 
>> ParaView doesn't support hovering labels right now, but you can tell it to 
>> label selected points. Use one of the point selection tools to select some 
>> points on your grid. Then, go to View->Selection Inspector. At the bottom of 
>> that panel there is a Display Style section. If you hit the Point Label tab 
>> and check the Visible box you'll see PointID and other attributes in the 
>> Label Mode combo-box. If your point coordinates are not there, then you can 
>> apply the Calculator filter to your data: Attribute Mode: Point Data, Result 
>> Array Name: Coordinates (or something like that), Equation (next box down): 
>> coords (which you can get by pulling down on the Vectors button on the lower 
>> right. After you hit apply the coordinates of your points will be an 
>> explicit vector attribute of your point data, and this new vector should 
>> show up in the Label Mode combo box for Point Label.
>> 
>> Talk to you later,
>> -Eric
>> 
>> --
>> Eric E Monson
>> Duke Visualization Technology Group
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 5:27 AM, Chris Botha wrote:
>> 
>>> Utkarsh
>>> 
>>> I am a new user to Paraview - and therefore do not know what to do
>>> when you say to apply the transform filter. I therefore searched the
>>> web for more information on how to apply the transform filter in
>>> Paraview. The best I could find was here :
>>> http://www.paraview.org/pipermail/paraview/2009-March/011560.html  - I
>>> was able to use that answer to apply the scale that I need.
>>> 
>>> I have also applied the Delaunay filter - and now have a 3d surface
>>> chart that I wanted!
>>> 
>>> What do I need to do to see the coordinates of the cursor as I move it
>>> over the surface chart? I need to see the values of the local maximum.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Utkarsh Ayachit
>>>  wrote:
 If the issue is indeed scale, then you can apply the Transform filter
 to scale the points.
 
 Utkarsh
 
 On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Chris Botha  wrote:
> Utkarsh/Berk
> 
> Thank you both for taking the time to reply to my question.
> 
> I have done what you have suggested - and made some progress. I still
> however do not see what I expect.
> 
> After making sure that the "table to points" is selected I do see a 3D
> view of something - the points are stretched along the Z axis - very
> close to the axis - and not spread out