Re: [PAYCO] Fwd: invitation to a PASMA/PAC elections rally

2014-04-26 Thread mphirim 

Ma Afrika 

I am concerned by Africanists who claim to be PAC but questioning PAC of their 
whereabouts, what role are you playing in the forthcoming elections. 

I am afraid that as the PAC we will surprise even those who  de campaign PAC or 
those who are fence sitters waiting for the Congress to take over the PAC and 
slaughter it. 

Sorry I expect anyone who claim to Love PAC to do their bit either through 
physical or Financial contribution in their areas. 

I wonder if their families and friends will ensure PAC regain all Seats lost 
due to Political Prostitution and the Conduct of its Leader. 

Time for discussions and Boardroom meetings is suspended for now. Please let's 
not drag the PAC back/down and raise its Flag higher. 

Mphiri Zimbiri  
There are no better PAC people than others.   
Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

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From: Mduduzi Sibeko 
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Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 18:18:23 
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Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Fwd: invitation to a PASMA/PAC elections rally

Cde Pinkie

It is very disturbing that for the first time in 20 years of competitive 
elections that the PAC has not had major election campaigns. I watch news 
daily, but I hardly see PAC campaigning.
My thinking is that, as it is apparent that are unlikely going to perform well, 
after elections all factions should come and reflect to rejuvenate the 
organisation. this could be the last breath of the PAC.

From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pinkie Monyane
Sent: 26 April 2014 02:17 PM
To: Mohlomphegi Mphahlele
Cc: hlatshwayonhlakanipho; d...@pac.org.za; bulanng...@gmail.com; 
m...@pac.org.za; mangalisomdhl...@gmail.com; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; 
danielmamony...@gmail.com; nol...@nactu.org.za; zun...@tut.ac.za; 
legalu...@sacwu.co.za; clementmar...@yahoo.com; Tumediso Modise; Nkrumah 
Raymond Kgagudi; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za; gemoanako...@webmail.co.za; 
nnyq...@gmail.com; BONOLO TSHEGO; pacmogalec...@gmail.com; 
joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com; celenjabulo...@gmail.com; Dimakatso Moletsane; 
Lindo Thando; SELLO IRVIN LESABANE; np...@mweb.co.za; Mphiri Masoga; Tume 
Molomo; Xola Tyamzashe; mapulankoan...@gmail.com; Tebogo Sekele; Narius Moloto; 
Sbusiso Xaba; p...@vodamail.co.za; Madosky Obama; Keith Moyce; Albert Mokoena; 
moshemahlom...@gmail.com; Dr. Motsoko Pheko; Innocentia Mamaila; 
headoff...@sacwu.org.za; mose...@sacwu.co.za; nyalu...@live.co.za; 
payco@googlegroups.com; znyam...@gmail.com; ki...@pac.org.za; 
lucasmmol...@gmail.com; phillip Dhlamini; Lehlogonolo Digashu; 
isa...@diplomatsa.co.za; Fumanile Ben; frambo...@gmail.com; 
bc...@netactive.co.za; Willy Fokane; nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com; 
pasma.gaut...@gmail.com; le...@pac.org.za; Metja Ledwaba; nufbw...@wbs.co.za; 
Excellent Rikhotso; Michael Muendane; butheyane mary serunye; Mbulelo Raymond; 
ms...@webmail.co.za; pactshwanereg...@gmail.com; david mabitsela; 
mphahlel...@amcu.co.za; jntab...@gmail.com; fortune.speng...@gmail.com; 
Vusumuzi Silaule; Sbongiseni Ayanda; richardma...@yahoo.com; karabo mokgojwa; 
Phumzile Nomnga; tumelo tele; mop...@pac.org.za; miles.ndl...@yahoo.com; Cape; 
Sbu Fire; ntsiemohl...@gmail.com; rad...@gmail.com; Malesela Mogashwa; Edward 
Thobejane; pac.nc...@gmail.com; hlubi.so...@gmail.com; pacaza...@webmail.co.za; 
takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; tsatsawani chauke; Mofihli Likotsi; 
dud...@webmail.co.za; eddie mfulwane; Obakeng Jacobs; Johnson Mlambo; 
billiard.s...@gmail.com; khoi.so...@gmail.com; Thabo cyril Zwane; 
ic...@telkomsa.net; brian.gam...@unioinlife.co.za; mnd...@yahoo.com; Dumisani 
Mkhwente; INNOCENT FRIDAY; Vusi .Mahlangu; Jabulani Mothopeng; Smoll Zondo; 
po...@yahoo.com; ifm10...@iscor.com; goqwana.san...@gmail.com; Malinge 
Plaatjie; Dumisani Zwane; jabu mkhwanazi; Admin @ Pac; p...@npswu.org.co.za; 
mbind...@gmail.com; justice mvakali; Nhlanhla Fortune Xaba; sduduzo andiswa; 
patrick.khum...@ekurhuleni.gov.za; gabula.j...@webmail.com; 
generalsecret...@mwasa.org.za; Lejoni John Kekana; hoteli...@iburst.co.za; L 
Lekgwathi; Alton Mphethi; Xola Tyamzashe; ad...@fedcraw.org.za; 
mafub...@hotmail.com; kgothatso sithole; inqubelaphambili.tradeun...@gmail.com; 
MXOLISI MAISELA; zweli cele; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; Ali Maphalala; Tebogo Masipa; 
Nkosinathi Mngoma; esei...@fedcraw.org.za; nombule...@webmail.com; wandisile 
gajana; Tongogara Ndima
Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Fwd: invitation to a PASMA/PAC elections rally


Comrades

I agree with Cde Mohlomphegi. Let us for once put the PAC above all other 
interests.

After the elections,  let's focus on building branches and build the party from 
the ground up.

Let us stand together and campaign for the PAC.

Izwelethu!

Cde Pinkie Monyane
On 26 Apr 2014 14:09, "Mohlomphegi Mphahlele" 
mailto:mphah...@eskom.co.za>> wrote:
Comrade Tongongara

You guys are the one embarrassing PAC. It is true PAC is currently suffering 
ideological coherent stance. So we mus

RE: [PAYCO] Fwd: invitation to a PASMA/PAC elections rally

2014-04-26 Thread Mduduzi Sibeko 
Cde Pinkie

It is very disturbing that for the first time in 20 years of competitive 
elections that the PAC has not had major election campaigns. I watch news 
daily, but I hardly see PAC campaigning.
My thinking is that, as it is apparent that are unlikely going to perform well, 
after elections all factions should come and reflect to rejuvenate the 
organisation. this could be the last breath of the PAC.

From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pinkie Monyane
Sent: 26 April 2014 02:17 PM
To: Mohlomphegi Mphahlele
Cc: hlatshwayonhlakanipho; d...@pac.org.za; bulanng...@gmail.com; 
m...@pac.org.za; mangalisomdhl...@gmail.com; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; 
danielmamony...@gmail.com; nol...@nactu.org.za; zun...@tut.ac.za; 
legalu...@sacwu.co.za; clementmar...@yahoo.com; Tumediso Modise; Nkrumah 
Raymond Kgagudi; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za; gemoanako...@webmail.co.za; 
nnyq...@gmail.com; BONOLO TSHEGO; pacmogalec...@gmail.com; 
joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com; celenjabulo...@gmail.com; Dimakatso Moletsane; 
Lindo Thando; SELLO IRVIN LESABANE; np...@mweb.co.za; Mphiri Masoga; Tume 
Molomo; Xola Tyamzashe; mapulankoan...@gmail.com; Tebogo Sekele; Narius Moloto; 
Sbusiso Xaba; p...@vodamail.co.za; Madosky Obama; Keith Moyce; Albert Mokoena; 
moshemahlom...@gmail.com; Dr. Motsoko Pheko; Innocentia Mamaila; 
headoff...@sacwu.org.za; mose...@sacwu.co.za; nyalu...@live.co.za; 
payco@googlegroups.com; znyam...@gmail.com; ki...@pac.org.za; 
lucasmmol...@gmail.com; phillip Dhlamini; Lehlogonolo Digashu; 
isa...@diplomatsa.co.za; Fumanile Ben; frambo...@gmail.com; 
bc...@netactive.co.za; Willy Fokane; nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com; 
pasma.gaut...@gmail.com; le...@pac.org.za; Metja Ledwaba; nufbw...@wbs.co.za; 
Excellent Rikhotso; Michael Muendane; butheyane mary serunye; Mbulelo Raymond; 
ms...@webmail.co.za; pactshwanereg...@gmail.com; david mabitsela; 
mphahlel...@amcu.co.za; jntab...@gmail.com; fortune.speng...@gmail.com; 
Vusumuzi Silaule; Sbongiseni Ayanda; richardma...@yahoo.com; karabo mokgojwa; 
Phumzile Nomnga; tumelo tele; mop...@pac.org.za; miles.ndl...@yahoo.com; Cape; 
Sbu Fire; ntsiemohl...@gmail.com; rad...@gmail.com; Malesela Mogashwa; Edward 
Thobejane; pac.nc...@gmail.com; hlubi.so...@gmail.com; pacaza...@webmail.co.za; 
takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; tsatsawani chauke; Mofihli Likotsi; 
dud...@webmail.co.za; eddie mfulwane; Obakeng Jacobs; Johnson Mlambo; 
billiard.s...@gmail.com; khoi.so...@gmail.com; Thabo cyril Zwane; 
ic...@telkomsa.net; brian.gam...@unioinlife.co.za; mnd...@yahoo.com; Dumisani 
Mkhwente; INNOCENT FRIDAY; Vusi .Mahlangu; Jabulani Mothopeng; Smoll Zondo; 
po...@yahoo.com; ifm10...@iscor.com; goqwana.san...@gmail.com; Malinge 
Plaatjie; Dumisani Zwane; jabu mkhwanazi; Admin @ Pac; p...@npswu.org.co.za; 
mbind...@gmail.com; justice mvakali; Nhlanhla Fortune Xaba; sduduzo andiswa; 
patrick.khum...@ekurhuleni.gov.za; gabula.j...@webmail.com; 
generalsecret...@mwasa.org.za; Lejoni John Kekana; hoteli...@iburst.co.za; L 
Lekgwathi; Alton Mphethi; Xola Tyamzashe; ad...@fedcraw.org.za; 
mafub...@hotmail.com; kgothatso sithole; inqubelaphambili.tradeun...@gmail.com; 
MXOLISI MAISELA; zweli cele; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; Ali Maphalala; Tebogo Masipa; 
Nkosinathi Mngoma; esei...@fedcraw.org.za; nombule...@webmail.com; wandisile 
gajana; Tongogara Ndima
Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Fwd: invitation to a PASMA/PAC elections rally


Comrades

I agree with Cde Mohlomphegi. Let us for once put the PAC above all other 
interests.

After the elections,  let's focus on building branches and build the party from 
the ground up.

Let us stand together and campaign for the PAC.

Izwelethu!

Cde Pinkie Monyane
On 26 Apr 2014 14:09, "Mohlomphegi Mphahlele" 
mailto:mphah...@eskom.co.za>> wrote:
Comrade Tongongara

You guys are the one embarrassing PAC. It is true PAC is currently suffering 
ideological coherent stance. So we must just assist the situation and stop 
continually dismissing our leadership. I always say to comrades that if one is 
not happy about a particular leader one must work hard to unseat that leader 
using our internal democratic processes. Hauling will not address your 
concerns. It is very much wise to focus yourself in developing a launching pad 
to address PAC problems. And that launching pad is your branch. So stop that 
and work your grounds. That’s where most of us fail. We think that we can 
correct the PAC ills by making the loudest noise. Teach the right thing. 
Prepare comrades for a PAC righteous path. That path is the implementation and 
utilisation of our Code of Conduct and our Constitution. All those leaders who 
transgress our code of conduct and our constitution will be answerable to the 
National Conference.

Go out there and campaign for the PAC!!!

From: Tongogara Ndima 
[mailto:ndimatongog...@gmail.com]
Sent: 26 April 2014 12:51 PM
To: payco@googlegroups.com
Cc: Admin @ Pac; Alton Mphethi; Michael

RE: [PAYCO] Fwd: invitation to a PASMA/PAC elections rally

2014-04-26 Thread Pinkie Monyane 
Comrades

I agree with Cde Mohlomphegi. Let us for once put the PAC above all other
interests.

After the elections,  let's focus on building branches and build the party
from the ground up.

Let us stand together and campaign for the PAC.

Izwelethu!

Cde Pinkie Monyane
On 26 Apr 2014 14:09, "Mohlomphegi Mphahlele"  wrote:

>  Comrade Tongongara
>
>
>
> You guys are the one embarrassing PAC. It is true PAC is currently
> suffering ideological coherent stance. So we must just assist the situation
> and stop continually dismissing our leadership. I always say to comrades
> that if one is not happy about a particular leader one must work hard to
> unseat that leader using our internal democratic processes. Hauling will
> not address your concerns. It is very much wise to focus yourself in
> developing a launching pad to address PAC problems. And that launching pad
> is your branch. So stop that and work your grounds. That’s where most of us
> fail. We think that we can correct the PAC ills by making the loudest
> noise. Teach the right thing. Prepare comrades for a PAC righteous path.
> That path is the implementation and utilisation of our Code of Conduct and
> our Constitution. All those leaders who transgress our code of conduct and
> our constitution will be answerable to the National Conference.
>
>
>
> Go out there and campaign for the PAC!!!
>
>
>
> *From:* Tongogara Ndima [mailto:ndimatongog...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 26 April 2014 12:51 PM
> *To:* payco@googlegroups.com
> *Cc:* Admin @ Pac; Alton Mphethi; Michael Muendane; Narius Moloto;
> d...@pac.org.za; david mabitsela; miles.ndl...@yahoo.com; justice mvakali;
> bulanng...@gmail.com; isa...@diplomatsa.co.za; Mohlomphegi Mphahlele;
> nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com; Cape; mapulankoan...@gmail.com;
> mangalisomdhl...@gmail.com; joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com;
> takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; richardma...@yahoo.com; mbind...@gmail.com; L
> Lekgwathi; wandisile gajana; eddie mfulwane; Smoll Zondo; phillip Dhlamini;
> Mbulelo Raymond; dud...@webmail.co.za; billiard.s...@gmail.com;
> rad...@gmail.com; Johnson Mlambo; Xola Tyamzashe; Tumediso Modise;
> p...@vodamail.co.za; Phumzile Nomnga; po...@yahoo.com;
> pacmogalec...@gmail.com; pactshwanereg...@gmail.com;
> pacaza...@webmail.co.za; pasmapresid...@gmail.com; pac.nc...@gmail.com;
> patrick.khum...@ekurhuleni.gov.za; Sbusiso Xaba; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za;
> Lehlogonolo Digashu; Dr. Motsoko Pheko; Tebogo Sekele; frambo...@gmail.com;
> goqwana.san...@gmail.com; Tebogo Masipa; hlubi.so...@gmail.com;
> jntab...@gmail.com; Keith Moyce; lucasmmol...@gmail.com;
> znyam...@gmail.com; le...@pac.org.za; m...@pac.org.za; ki...@pac.org.za;
> ndhlo...@pac.org.za; celenjabulo...@gmail.com; bc...@netactive.co.za;
> nyalu...@live.co.za; nnyq...@gmail.com; nombule...@webmail.com;
> nol...@nactu.org.za; Pinkie Monyane; moshemahlom...@gmail.com;
> ms...@webmail.co.za; mop...@pac.org.za; mafub...@hotmail.com; Mphiri
> Masoga; mnd...@yahoo.com; Malinge Plaatjie; Albert Mokoena;
> esei...@fedcraw.org.za; Edward Thobejane; ifm10...@iscor.com; Malesela
> Mogashwa; ic...@telkomsa.net; inqubelaphambili.tradeun...@gmail.com;
> p...@npswu.org.co.za; ad...@fedcraw.org.za; generalsecret...@mwasa.org.za;
> hoteli...@iburst.co.za; headoff...@sacwu.org.za; legalu...@sacwu.co.za;
> brian.gam...@unioinlife.co.za; nufbw...@wbs.co.za; np...@mweb.co.za;
> mose...@sacwu.co.za; mphahlel...@amcu.co.za; sduduzo andiswa; Sbongiseni
> Ayanda; Ali Maphalala; butheyane mary serunye; BONOLO TSHEGO; Thabo cyril
> Zwane; tsatsawani chauke; zweli cele; clementmar...@yahoo.com; Dumisani
> Mkhwente; danielmamony...@gmail.com; Dimakatso Moletsane; Excellent
> Rikhotso; Fumanile Ben; INNOCENT FRIDAY; Nhlanhla Fortune Xaba; Sbu Fire;
> Willy Fokane; fortune.speng...@gmail.com; gabula.j...@webmail.com;
> gemoanako...@webmail.co.za; hlatshwayonhlakanipho; Innocentia Mamaila;
> SELLO IRVIN LESABANE; jabu mkhwanazi; Jabulani Mothopeng; Lejoni John
> Kekana; Obakeng Jacobs; karabo mokgojwa; khoi.so...@gmail.com; kgothatso
> sithole; Lindo Thando; Metja Ledwaba; MXOLISI MAISELA; Nkosinathi Mngoma;
> Madosky Obama; pasma.gaut...@gmail.com; Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi; Tume
> Molomo; tumelo tele; Mofihli Likotsi; Vusi .Mahlangu; Vusumuzi Silaule;
> Xola Tyamzashe; zun...@tut.ac.za; ntsiemohl...@gmail.com; Dumisani Zwane
> *Subject:* Re: [PAYCO] Fwd: invitation to a PASMA/PAC elections rally
>
>
>
> M'Afrika Digashu
>
>
>
> Stop embarrassing PAC, you guys know that Narius Moloto cannot talk and
> has little political grounding, if students will be allowed to engage him
> and demand clarity then PAC will be embarrassed once more. Both Mopethi and
> Moloto dismally failed to unpack positions of PAC at both Justice Factor
> and Vuyo Mvoko National Elections Debates! Actually these comrades are
> hopeless opportunists! The earlier they are removed from PAC Leadership the
> better!
>
>
>
> Please M'Afrika
>
>
>
> From Tongongara
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Lehlogonolo Digash

Re: [PAYCO] Invitation to a PAC Gauteng Election Conference

2014-04-26 Thread Tongogara Ndima 
M'Afrika ka'  Ntando

As an election manager you should find this highly embarrassing and
bordering on incompetency, it is ten days before national elections  but
PAC Branches in majority of Gauteng and Mpumalangahave no elections posters
and information. Are you serving PAC or Mopethi-Moloto faction? No
wonder M'Afrika Mashao Matome keeps on denouncing you guys Xaba included as
a bunch of opportunist with principles. Xaba failed to become President at
Butterworth in July 2012, he is going to fail again, just watch the space!

From, Tongogara


On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Tommy Ntando  wrote:

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Re: [PAYCO] Fwd: invitation to a PASMA/PAC elections rally

2014-04-26 Thread Tongogara Ndima 
M'Afrika Digashu

Stop embarrassing PAC, you guys know that Narius Moloto cannot talk and has
little political grounding, if students will be allowed to engage him and
demand clarity then PAC will be embarrassed once more. Both Mopethi and
Moloto dismally failed to unpack positions of PAC at both Justice Factor
and Vuyo Mvoko National Elections Debates! Actually these comrades are
hopeless opportunists! The earlier they are removed from PAC Leadership the
better!

Please M'Afrika

>From Tongongara


On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Lehlogonolo Digashu <
digashu.ma...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Lehlogonolo Digashu 
> Date: Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 2:04 PM
> Subject: invitation to a PASMA/PAC elections rally
> To: sduduzo andiswa , Sbongiseni Ayanda <
> jxi...@gmail.com>, Ali Maphalala , butheyane
> mary serunye , BONOLO TSHEGO <
> melloasa...@gmail.com>, Thabo cyril Zwane , tsatsawani
> chauke , zweli cele ,
> clementmar...@yahoo.com, Dumisani Mkhwente ,
> danielmamony...@gmail.com, Dimakatso Moletsane ,
> eddie mfulwane , Excellent Rikhotso <
> excellentrikho...@gmail.com>, Fumanile Ben ,
> INNOCENT FRIDAY , Nhlanhla Fortune Xaba <
> nfx...@gmail.com>, Sbu Fire , Willy Fokane <
> fokanewi...@gmail.com>, fortune.speng...@gmail.com,
> gabula.j...@webmail.com, gemoanako...@webmail.co.za,
> hlatshwayonhlakanipho , Innocentia
> Mamaila , SELLO IRVIN LESABANE ,
> jabu mkhwanazi <8302jabumkhwan...@gmail.com>, Jabulani Mothopeng <
> jabumo...@gmail.com>, justice mvakali , Lejoni
> John Kekana , Obakeng Jacobs <
> obakengjac...@yahoo.com>, karabo mokgojwa ,
> khoi.so...@gmail.com, kgothatso sithole ,
> Lindo Thando , Metja Ledwaba ,
> MXOLISI MAISELA , Nkosinathi Mngoma <
> mngomankosina...@yahoo.com>, Madosky Obama ,
> pasma.gaut...@gmail.com, Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi ,
> Tume Molomo , tumelo tele ,
> Mofihli Likotsi , "Vusi .Mahlangu" <
> vemahla...@gmail.com>, Vusumuzi Silaule , Xola
> Tyamzashe , Xola Tyamzashe ,
> Sbusiso Xaba , Smoll Zondo ,
> zun...@tut.ac.za
>
>
> good day
>
> receive here in attached communique for your urgent attention.
>
> we hope you find the above in order.
>
> kind regards
>
> JUSTIS MAJAZ DIGASHU
> PASMA GAUTENG
> PROVINCIAL CHAIRPERSON
> Cell: 084 868 4146
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