Update Available for Easy CD DA Extractor
Below is some information about a small update that is now available for Easy CD DA Extractor at www.poikosoft.com. This update can be found by selecting a link called update. The update is only available to registered users of the program. -Steve. After installing Windows Media Audio 9.1 codecs or Windows Media Player 10, the lossless WMA9 format no longer works. This patch fixes the problem, unzip the file to the Easy CD-DA Extractor installation folder. Regards Steve, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: steve1963 MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fwd: `Audacity 1.2.2
*** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE *** From: audacity-announce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audacity 1.2.2 has been released: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ Audacity 1.2.2 is a new stable version of the free Audacity sound editor. This release includes new features such as level meters, multi-file export, and lower latency for multi-track recording. It also includes many bug fixes. It is available for Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux. A complete list of the changes can be found in the release notes on the website. *** END FORWARDED MESSAGE *** Regards Steve, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: steve1963 MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hurricane Francis Coverage
Hello, there is a trick that many don't know about: The URL to listen to ACB Radio Mainstream is http://acbradio.org:6246 If you want to get the server information, you visit http://acbradio.org:6246/index.html So, if you visit http://216.37.55.101:8080/index.html It will give you all the information you need HTH --- Matthew Horspool Official Beta Tester Freedom Scientific, Inc. 11800 31st Court N. St. Petersburg, Fl. 33716 Tel: (1-800) 444-4443 or (1-727) 803-8000 Fax: (1-727) 803-8001 Web: www.FreedomScientific.comm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hank smith Sent: 05 September 2004 23:44 To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Hurricane Francis Coverage who is streaming this? what site? am curious - Original Message - From: Wil James [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 7:48 AM Subject: Hurricane Francis Coverage If you want to hear coverage of Hurricane Francis as it makes its way in to Florida, paste the following in to Winamp. http://216.37.55.101:8080 It is coverage provided by the hams of the area. Do you want to know about new products when they come out? Do you have a product the blind community would benefit from? Send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- E-mail/MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I C Q: 95379501 ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Inbox is protected by SPAMfighter 914 spam mails have been blocked so far. Download free www.spamfighter.com today! ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The New Windows Media Player 10
Using JFW 5.10.350 and was wondering if the new WMP 10 player is screen reader accessible or as accessible as WMP 9? Please let us know. Thank you. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DVD playback with Windows Media Player for XP
When I insert a copyrighted movie disc into my dvd drive I get the message saying unable to play due to copyright protection with Windows Media player. I heard one can download third party dvd decoder that could solve this issue. Any tips are appreciated. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The New Windows Media Player 10
Where do you get the new Windows Media Player ten? I have two systems, this one windows 98 sE, and the other one which is P Professional. They both use Window-Eyes 4.5 SP 4. Could you please send a link? I think somebody did earlier, but I can't find it yet. To join my Help list send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To join the sister list Big-Happy-Family send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For positive thinking join my positive thinkers list by sending a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To join my Buy Sell Trade list FreeEnterprise send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and in all cases follow the simple prompts. Email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 10:41 AM Subject: The New Windows Media Player 10 Using JFW 5.10.350 and was wondering if the new WMP 10 player is screen reader accessible or as accessible as WMP 9? Please let us know. Thank you. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Installing M-Audio Delta 410 Sound Card
Has anyone ever installed an M-Audio Delta 410 sound card using a screen reader? Thanks, Tom ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
creative labs software
how accessible is the creative labs software with jaws 5.1? ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
accessible cd-rom burning software is available
Hi yall, Got this from a friend of mine. check it out. Tony available from: http://www.readingmadeeasy.com Premier CD/DVD Creator Finally, CD burning software that is designed to work with a screen reader While Premier CD/DVD creator appears to be like many other CD burning software, if you use screen reading software, you will be able to really HEAR the difference immediately!!. This is the first CD/DVD burning software that is designed to work with a screen reader and is now the most Section 508-compliant CD burning software in the market. For many visually impaired users, while individual screens may be accessible, once you select a button or other function, the user often loses tracking of the progress or status of a task because the screen reader cannot tell them what is happening. Premier CD Creator takes care of all of that. With the new Premier Assistive CD/DVD burning software, you always know what it is doing as it is doing it. No more guess work. The best part is there is nothing special you need to do to get it to work with your screen reader! If you have a screen reader running, the Premier CD/DVD software will automatically detect it, and send information through your screen reader. The Premier CD/DVD Creator software package contains four unique tools. It comes with an Audio Ripper, Audio CD Burner, Data CD creator and Data DVD Burner. Each one of these products is independent of the version of screen reader being used. They do not require any Script files or Set Files. You never have to worry about what version of the screen reader you have. Just install it and use it. This is a must for visually impaired computer users. Features of the Premier CD//DVD Creator Audio Grabber Rip audio directly into the output file type without going through a conversion process, keeping the fidelity as close to the original as possible. Supports Wave, MP3, OGG and WMA file types Internet support. The built in internet support will automatically retrieve album information. Grab Scratched CD Disk Options Accessible audio player Audio CD Writer Create Audio CD's from multiple file formats, Including Wave, MP3 and WMA file types Fully accessible interface Move Tracks before they are burned Works with Almost every CDRW drive built after 1998. CD/DVD Data Writer Supports Multi Session Auto detects all Write able Drives on your computer Write Files to a CD Image Create CD's From Images Easily add folders and files to the image with a single key stroke Supports CDR, CDRW, DVDR, and DVDRW. Works with both internal, SCSI and USB Drives System Requirements Operating System: Windows 98se, ME, NT, 2000, XP Home or XP Professional CPU: 300 MHz or Faster Ram: 64 MB or More Storage: 50 MB of Free Space CDRW or DVDRW Works with all drivers built after 1998 What devices does Premier CD/DVD Creator support? This Premier CD/DVD creator supports almost all CDR and CDR/W drives manufactured after late 1998. The DVD Writer has been tested on every available DVD drive format including DVD-R. DVD-R/W, DVD+R, DVD+R/W, and DVD-RAM. We have tested DVD functionality on almost every available drive on the market (accept for some older DVD-RAM drives). Some of Our development DVD drives include models from Pioneer, Sony, Panasonic, Ricoh, HP, and Toshiba. For CD, we have a large inventory from almost all manufactures including Plextor, Sony, Yamaha, Lite-On, Panasonic, Mitsumi, HP, Samsung, Goldstar, Philips, TEAC, Toshiba, QPS, TDK, and many others - just to name a few. Price: $59.95 plus shipping and handling. Call for volume discounts or site license. Ü÷ ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VARIABLE BIT RATES WITH LAME, SOME NOTES
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Right! Well the manual further confirms the point I made earlier which was that allot of the newer features of LAME, are not available in CDEX because the authors either don't know about them or they just haven't been implimented (the code hasn't been written from the CDEX side to make use of the new features available through the DLL file), once again! I'm only going on what I've read in the CDEX manual section as posted to this list. What new features? Well did you know that LAME has an AUTO SELECT mode which determines which mode(Mono, Stereo or joint stereo) each frame should be encoded in when using VBR mode? That's why! I never (if I can avoid it) use the LAME DLL library and I always! prefer those applications which allow me to use the LAME command line utility so I can customise the command line to take into account new features, various specific encoding settings which the interface application to the LAME DLL library file will not handle etc. At 07:36 PM 2/09/2004 +0100, you wrote: From the CDEX manual...worth a read I think... Settings for Lame MP3/Blade DLL/Internal MP3 encoder: This paragraph describes the options for the encoder mentioned above. However, not all options might be available for certain encoders. Bitrate (default value 128 Kbits/s): Determines the number of bits per second. Mode (default value Stereo): With the LAME encoder, you can specify how the file is encoded. The default stereo option is recommended, but at lower bit-rates, the Joint-stereo or Forced stereo can yield better sound quality. Stereo: In this mode, the encoder makes no use of potential similarity between the two input channels. It can, however, negotiate the bit demand between both channels, i.e. give one channel more bits if the other contains silence. Joint stereo: In this mode, the encoder will make use of a correlation between both channels. The signal will be matrixed into a sum (mid) and difference (side) signal. For quasi-mono signals, this will give a significant gain in encoding quality. This mode does not destroy phase information like IS stereo that may be used by other encoders. This setting can be used to encode DOLBY ProLogic surround signals. force joint stereo: This mode will force MS joint stereo on all frames. It's faster and it uses some special mid and side masking threshold. Mono: This option will forcibly generate a mono file; if the input file is a stereo file, the input stream will be read as a mono by averaging the left and right channels. Quality (default value Normal): With the LAME encoder, you can specify the output quality; thus you can trade off encoding time against sound quality. The default (normal) is recommended for the lower bitrates (160 kbps), high quality for bitrates 160 kbps. The voice quality is more or less optimized to generate the best quality for voice. Details of the R3Mix quality option can be found at http://www.r3mix.net. MPEG-I/II setting (default value MPEG-I): The difference between MPEG-I and MPEG-II are the sample frequencies of the input file. MPEG-I can handle input streams (WAV files) with a sample frequency of 48000, 44100 and 32000 Hz. MPEG-II on the other hand will support stream for 24000, 22050 16 Hz. Basically, use MPEG-II when you want to encode with low bit rates (e.g. for voice files, or if you need small MP3 files with reduced quality). As you can see, the lowest bit-rate for MPEG-II is 8 Kbits/sec while for MPEG-I the lowest bit rate is 32 Kbits/s. VBR Method Setting The VBR method setting allows you the change the VBR algorithm which is used for the encoding (detailed information can be found in the LAME user documentation - see http://www.sulaco.org/mp3/doc/html/index.html). The following selections are available Disabled: Don't use VBR; instead encodie with a Constant Bit Rate (CBR) VBR-Default: Use the default VBR method (currently set to VBR-MTRH) VBR-Old: LAME's first functional approach, based on masking, bisection in the bit domain. VBR-New: LAME's second approach, based on masking and direct noise allocation. VBR-MTRH: a combination of old and new (VBR) routines VBR-ABR: The Average Bit Rate (ABR) setting, the encoding principle is similar to what AAC uses as VBR encoding, it is based on perceptual entropy, but more like CBR than VBR. When you select the ABR option in the VBR Settings box, the ABR edit box will be enabled. In this edit box you can specify the target average bit rate. Of course, a larger bit rate will yield generally better-sounding (but larger) MP3 files. ABR Settings VBR Quality Setting This option allows you to set the Variable bit-rate option. Variable bit-rate encoding will enable dynamically determined bit-rates that depend on the music content of the current frame. This improves the overall quality of the encoded file without increasing the
Nero question
Hi everyone. After installing Windows XP Service Pack 2, I learned that the version of Nero I was running had compatibility issues with the new operating system. So I but an upgrade to the current Ultra Edition package. The purchased serial number installed just fine on one computer but was not accepted by Nero on my second PC. Does anyone know if a Nero licenses now good for only one computer? If so, it is something to keep in mind when choosing CD burning software in the future. Larry - ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: accessible cd-rom burning software is available
there a demo? - Original Message - From: nick danger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 3:17 PM Subject: accessible cd-rom burning software is available Hi yall, Got this from a friend of mine. check it out. Tony available from: http://www.readingmadeeasy.com Premier CD/DVD Creator Finally, CD burning software that is designed to work with a screen reader While Premier CD/DVD creator appears to be like many other CD burning software, if you use screen reading software, you will be able to really HEAR the difference immediately!!. This is the first CD/DVD burning software that is designed to work with a screen reader and is now the most Section 508-compliant CD burning software in the market. For many visually impaired users, while individual screens may be accessible, once you select a button or other function, the user often loses tracking of the progress or status of a task because the screen reader cannot tell them what is happening. Premier CD Creator takes care of all of that. With the new Premier Assistive CD/DVD burning software, you always know what it is doing as it is doing it. No more guess work. The best part is there is nothing special you need to do to get it to work with your screen reader! If you have a screen reader running, the Premier CD/DVD software will automatically detect it, and send information through your screen reader. The Premier CD/DVD Creator software package contains four unique tools. It comes with an Audio Ripper, Audio CD Burner, Data CD creator and Data DVD Burner. Each one of these products is independent of the version of screen reader being used. They do not require any Script files or Set Files. You never have to worry about what version of the screen reader you have. Just install it and use it. This is a must for visually impaired computer users. Features of the Premier CD//DVD Creator Audio Grabber Rip audio directly into the output file type without going through a conversion process, keeping the fidelity as close to the original as possible. Supports Wave, MP3, OGG and WMA file types Internet support. The built in internet support will automatically retrieve album information. Grab Scratched CD Disk Options Accessible audio player Audio CD Writer Create Audio CD's from multiple file formats, Including Wave, MP3 and WMA file types Fully accessible interface Move Tracks before they are burned Works with Almost every CDRW drive built after 1998. CD/DVD Data Writer Supports Multi Session Auto detects all Write able Drives on your computer Write Files to a CD Image Create CD's From Images Easily add folders and files to the image with a single key stroke Supports CDR, CDRW, DVDR, and DVDRW. Works with both internal, SCSI and USB Drives System Requirements Operating System: Windows 98se, ME, NT, 2000, XP Home or XP Professional CPU: 300 MHz or Faster Ram: 64 MB or More Storage: 50 MB of Free Space CDRW or DVDRW Works with all drivers built after 1998 What devices does Premier CD/DVD Creator support? This Premier CD/DVD creator supports almost all CDR and CDR/W drives manufactured after late 1998. The DVD Writer has been tested on every available DVD drive format including DVD-R. DVD-R/W, DVD+R, DVD+R/W, and DVD-RAM. We have tested DVD functionality on almost every available drive on the market (accept for some older DVD-RAM drives). Some of Our development DVD drives include models from Pioneer, Sony, Panasonic, Ricoh, HP, and Toshiba. For CD, we have a large inventory from almost all manufactures including Plextor, Sony, Yamaha, Lite-On, Panasonic, Mitsumi, HP, Samsung, Goldstar, Philips, TEAC, Toshiba, QPS, TDK, and many others - just to name a few. Price: $59.95 plus shipping and handling. Call for volume discounts or site license. Ü÷ ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My Inbox is protected by SPAMfighter 942 spam mails have been blocked so far. Download free www.spamfighter.com today! ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: BPOC Premier CD/DVD Creator
Doc Wright http://wrightplaceinc.net *Wouldn't it be nice if whenever we messed up our life we could simply press,'Ctrl Alt Delete' and start all over? AMEN, AMEN !! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 6:32 PM Subject: SPAM: BPOC Premier CD/DVD Creator Hi yall, Got this from a friend of mine. check it out. Tony available from: http://www.readingmadeeasy.com Premier CD/DVD Creator Finally, CD burning software that is designed to work with a screen reader While Premier CD/DVD creator appears to be like many other CD burning software, if you use screen reading software, you will be able to really HEAR the difference immediately!!. This is the first CD/DVD burning software that is designed to work with a screen reader and is now the most Section 508-compliant CD burning software in the market. For many visually impaired users, while individual screens may be accessible, once you select a button or other function, the user often loses tracking of the progress or status of a task because the screen reader cannot tell them what is happening. Premier CD Creator takes care of all of that. With the new Premier Assistive CD/DVD burning software, you always know what it is doing as it is doing it. No more guess work. The best part is there is nothing special you need to do to get it to work with your screen reader! If you have a screen reader running, the Premier CD/DVD software will automatically detect it, and send information through your screen reader. The Premier CD/DVD Creator software package contains four unique tools. It comes with an Audio Ripper, Audio CD Burner, Data CD creator and Data DVD Burner. Each one of these products is independent of the version of screen reader being used. They do not require any Script files or Set Files. You never have to worry about what version of the screen reader you have. Just install it and use it. This is a must for visually impaired computer users. Features of the Premier CD//DVD Creator Audio Grabber Rip audio directly into the output file type without going through a conversion process, keeping the fidelity as close to the original as possible. Supports Wave, MP3, OGG and WMA file types Internet support. The built in internet support will automatically retrieve album information. Grab Scratched CD Disk Options Accessible audio player Audio CD Writer Create Audio CD's from multiple file formats, Including Wave, MP3 and WMA file types Fully accessible interface Move Tracks before they are burned Works with Almost every CDRW drive built after 1998. CD/DVD Data Writer Supports Multi Session Auto detects all Write able Drives on your computer Write Files to a CD Image Create CD's From Images Easily add folders and files to the image with a single key stroke Supports CDR, CDRW, DVDR, and DVDRW. Works with both internal, SCSI and USB Drives System Requirements Operating System: Windows 98se, ME, NT, 2000, XP Home or XP Professional CPU: 300 MHz or Faster Ram: 64 MB or More Storage: 50 MB of Free Space CDRW or DVDRW Works with all drivers built after 1998 What devices does Premier CD/DVD Creator support? This Premier CD/DVD creator supports almost all CDR and CDR/W drives manufactured after late 1998. The DVD Writer has been tested on every available DVD drive format including DVD-R. DVD-R/W, DVD+R, DVD+R/W, and DVD-RAM. We have tested DVD functionality on almost every available drive on the market (accept for some older DVD-RAM drives). Some of Our development DVD drives include models from Pioneer, Sony, Panasonic, Ricoh, HP, and Toshiba. For CD, we have a large inventory from almost all manufactures including Plextor, Sony, Yamaha, Lite-On, Panasonic, Mitsumi, HP, Samsung, Goldstar, Philips, TEAC, Toshiba, QPS, TDK, and many others - just to name a few. Price: $59.95 plus shipping and handling. Call for volume discounts or site license. Ü÷ 1 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/blind-people-of-color/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kazaa question
I downloaded the kazaa resurrection version from the JFW Lite web page. Do I choose the full install, or which components do I need to install, and does it contain spyware? I noticed one of the components was media desktop. personal and MSN Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype user id: tlsyslo AOL Instant Messenger: Drizzlecat! Yahoo messenger: tlsyslo ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
question about power arkiver
Hey guys: I gave up on WinZip and installed power arkiver instead, but I can't figure out how to extract files and place them some where. For example. i put the jaws five.1 settings folder in my favorite folder section so I could unzip any scripts, then I went to my desk top and clicked on the jaws scripts eyecon for add awear. power arkiver came up and the files were listed, but I can't figure out how to get them in the folder I need them in. I tried selecting them and moving them, I tried extracting them, but no luck. Any suggestions?Sarai and Rosie Isaiah 33:6 and there shall be stability in thy times, abundance of salvation, wisdom, and knowledge: the fear of Jehovah is thy treasure. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ripping DVD audio to MP3
Some time ago I asked if there is any software which will allow me to rip the audio from a DVD and put it into an MP3 file. I thought I had an answer but apparently didn't store it where I thought I did. Is there such software and where can I get it if it exists? thanks. Karl ___ Axis Karl Smith, Assistive Technology Consultant 4304 South El Camino St. Taylorsville, Utah 84119 Phone: 801-967-5655 Toll Free: 866-824-7885 Fax:866-824-7885 E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.axistech.net - Never confuse an open mind with an empty head. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: question about power arkiver
Hi Hit the applications key or right mouse click on the file you want to unzip and you will see various options about where to unzip it too. hth Hamish -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sarai and Rosie Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2004 8:32 AM To: pc-audio Subject: question about power arkiver Hey guys: I gave up on WinZip and installed power arkiver instead, but I can't figure out how to extract files and place them some where. For example. i put the jaws five.1 settings folder in my favorite folder section so I could unzip any scripts, then I went to my desk top and clicked on the jaws scripts eyecon for add awear. power arkiver came up and the files were listed, but I can't figure out how to get them in the folder I need them in. I tried selecting them and moving them, I tried extracting them, but no luck. Any suggestions?Sarai and Rosie Isaiah 33:6 and there shall be stability in thy times, abundance of salvation, wisdom, and knowledge: the fear of Jehovah is thy treasure. ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]