Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'm curious. How do you think this makes it more inconvenient? Are you 
thinking it's more inconvenient than something which has a rechargeable 
battery in it but uses an AC adapter to charge it? If so, I'm thinking 
whether you plug it into a USB port or an AC outlet, it would all be the 
same. I guess though AC outlets are still more ubiquitous than USB 
ports. If I go on vacation, like a cruise, I'd still have to bring my 
laptop just to recharge my Creative Zen Stone.

If you're comparing it to something which takes batteries then I guess 
it would be more inconvenient, when the battery runs down, you have to 
tether yourself to an electrical outlet or a USB port while it's 
charging, but if it took batteries, you could just pop a fresh battery 
in and go. I guess for the price, you could always buy two!

OK never mind, you're right, I can see where it would be a bit nor 
inconvenient! I'm still asking for one for Father's Day though! I have 
the Creative MuVo with 128M of memory, and having something that's 
supposed to be just as easy to use, but with 1GB of memory is just too 
appealing. Plus I see it's size and the fact that it has rechargeable 
batteries as providing it's own conveniences. I don't have to worry 
about spare batteries or carrying two separate cords.

Bruce Toews wrote:
 Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
 the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?

 Bruce

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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread John Hodgson
If the Zen Stone can only be recharged via the USB port.. .this
shouldn't pose too much of a problem as you can get A C adapters that
allow you plug a USB connection in, so you can charge it that way. Just
like the way I pods are charged.

John

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/06/07 03:29 
Bruce, you wrote:

 Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way
of
 the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?

Yes, if you prefer normal batteries, you might checkout the iRiver T50
and T60. Not quite as cheap as the Stone, but more powerful and not
too
expensive either.

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Are the T50 and T60 from iRiver accessible? [was Re: Creative Zen Stone Player]

2007-06-07 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Has a blind person used or had any experience with the iRiver T50 or the 
iRiver T60? If so, how accessible did you find them? From the review 
posted at http://www.pocketables.net/2007/05/review_iriver_t.html, I 
read the following, which makes me wonder how accessible these players 
are. The reference to a joy stick and a GUI, even though they say it's 
straightforward, give me pause. It does appear that you can just use 
Windows Explorer to transfer music, but you may have to use the PC 
software to switch between MTP and UMS mode. That doesn't seem like a 
big deal, but I wonder if the PC software is accessible with a screen 
reader or not.

Controls

Navigation on both players is primarily handled by a small joystick on 
the right side of the display

The joystick is unrestricted in its movement and easy to use, but it's a 
bit wobbly. This makes selecting various options tricky because pressing 
the center of the joystick straight down requires actual precision. You 
can't just push the center and expect the system to recognize it as an 
OK or Enter command. More often than not, tapping the center of the 
joystick pushes it slightly to the left, which rewinds a track or takes 
you to the previous menu option.

Navigation would be more accurate if the joystick's movements were 
limited to just four directions (up, down, left, right).

Graphical user interface

The T50 and T60 are equipped with yet another GUI not found on any other 
recent iriver DAP (it's the same one used on the older T10).

All that nonsense aside, the T50 and T60's GUI is self-explanatory and 
easy to use. The main menu is colorful and cute, but the rest of the 
system isn't really anything to look at.

It's all very file-tree and Windows Explorer: plain but functional.

Transferring content

The T50 and T60 can be formatted to support MTP or UMS/MSC for 
transferring media with or without the use of software. Drag-and-drop 
via Windows Explorer can be done in either mode, but other differences 
exist to make choosing between one or the other pretty crucial.

Switching between the two modes requires the use of the supplied Cross 
Updater software and also deletes all of the content, so it's easier to 
just choose one and stick to it forever.

Keep in mind that you need MSC/UMS to:
• Use iriver plus 3
• Supposedly playback podcasts (not sure why iriver says this, as most 
podcasts are in MP3 format)
And you need MTP to:
• Use Windows Media Player 11 and other music management software
• Playback Audible content

Michael Lang wrote:
 Bruce, you wrote:

   
 Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
 the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?
 

 Yes, if you prefer normal batteries, you might checkout the iRiver T50
 and T60. Not quite as cheap as the Stone, but more powerful and not too
 expensive either.

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Re: CD drive will burn, but reads inconsistently

2007-06-07 Thread TrueBlue Proud
John, thanks for this, I'll get hold of one and give it a go,
Billy
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 Hello TrueBlue and Proud,
 I once had a fisher highfigh double cd player/burner that gave me that
 problem eather way.
 A few times, I couldn't burn cds on it because it had a derty lazer linse.
 But when I popped one of those linse cleaning kits in to it, it allowed me
 to not only play cds, I was also able to go back to coppying one cd to
 another cd wich is the real reason why I bot that machine in the first
 place.
 But try cleaning the lazer linse and see if your dvd drive will do what 
 it's
 suppose to do.
 My best regards to you all.
 - Original Message - 
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 Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 3:24 PM
 Subject: Re: CD drive will burn, but reads inconsistently


 John, I have the exact opesit problem with my dvd/cd burner. I can play
 discs all right, but the drive just won't burn discs,
 Same problem maybe?,
 Billy


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 High Larry and Tom,
 I ran in to this kind of a problem to many times before.
 Before I got in to computers, I was and still am heavyly in to audio.
 This is the one thing that both audio cd players and cd drives for
 computers
 and even dvd players have in comend with each other.
 Over a periet of time, real fine dust particals will deposit themselves
 on
 the lazer lense.
 When that happens, that's when these machines have a problem playing 
 back
 any cd or dvd you put in them.
 Their are lazer linse cleaning kits that you can use to get the dust
 deposit
 off of the linse.
 After cleaning the linse, these dvd players cd players and even computer
 cd/dvd drives are like new again.
 Try cleaning the lazer linse with one of these linse cleaning kits and
 see
 if that solves the problem.
 If it dosen't, then that's the time to replace the cd/dvd drive.
 My best regards to you all.
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 From: Larry Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 10:07 AM
 Subject: Re: CD drive will burn, but reads inconsistently


 Hey Tom,

 Thanks for those suggestions. I did find that after putting a disc
 into the burner for reading, that when afterward placing the same
 disc in my Victor Reader Classic, that the medium was rejected. I've
 thought about the possibility that the drive might be defective in
 such a way as to make the laser capable of doing some kind of damage
 to discs, but thought that might be a bit paranoid and over the top,
 but I guess not. It might just be time for a new burner. I've had this
 Lite-on for a little over three years. As a matter of fact, it came
 with my computer. I'm definitely open to any other possible
 suggestions. After all, if to further troubleshoot this problem is to
 destroy my music, I can hardly justify doing that.

 Thanks a bunch,

 Larry



 At 05:20 AM 6/6/2007, you wrote:
Larry,

Does the CD drive read commercially produced discs OK?

Can you use the discs burned on the problematic drive on
other disc drives or players?

Do you have Nero do a simulation before doing the burn?

I'm wondering if when you burn a CD the drive might burn it
badly and therefore it can be read only once or twice before
the disc degrades.

Moer questions than answers, sorry about that but CD burners
have done real strange things for me.

Tom

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 For some reason, my cd drive/burner seems to have trouble
 reading discs within Windows Explorer. No matter how many
 times I try reinserting discs, I receive the dialog box
 telling me that I need to place a disc in the drive, or
 something to that affect. This makes it hard to understand
 how Nero has no trouble burning cds at all. It seems to me
 that burning should be next to impossible if previously
 burned discs can't be read in the first place.



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Re[2]: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread pete gurney
hello all,

there is more than one solution to the problem of charging your mp3 usb
players.
i bought a mp3 and usb charger a while ago.
this is a small device that looks just like a standard mains plug and has a
usb socket on the face, all you do is plug it into the wall socket and plug
any usb powered device into it to either run it off the mains or to charge
it.
i only paid 5.99 UK pounds for it about12 US dollars.
the place i got mine from doesn't have this particular model any more but
they do have an alternative one that has some extras.
mine was for UK use only, but the one they have now is a travel version
which comes with adapters allowing you to use it in the UK, USA, Europe or
Australia.
  this model costs 9.99 UK pounds about 21 US dollars
here is the url for the item:
http://www.gizoo.co.uk/Products/AvCommunications/iPodAccessories/TravelCharg
erUSB.htm

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Goldwave Question

2007-06-07 Thread Amanda
HI,

HI,

Is there any way I can record what comes out of my soundcard into goldwave,
without also recording sounds from the inbuilt microphone on my laptop?

Ideally, I would like to be able to record something which is streaming
through windows media player into mp3 format.

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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread Bruce Toews
The whole point of portability is, well, portability. If you have to
cart a computer along just so you can recharge the device you have music
on which has been transfered from the device you're having to cart along
to recharge the portable device ...

Bruce
On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 03:43:22 -0500, Christopher Chaltain
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I'm curious. How do you think this makes it more inconvenient? Are you 
 thinking it's more inconvenient than something which has a rechargeable 
 battery in it but uses an AC adapter to charge it? If so, I'm thinking 
 whether you plug it into a USB port or an AC outlet, it would all be the 
 same. I guess though AC outlets are still more ubiquitous than USB 
 ports. If I go on vacation, like a cruise, I'd still have to bring my 
 laptop just to recharge my Creative Zen Stone.
 
 If you're comparing it to something which takes batteries then I guess 
 it would be more inconvenient, when the battery runs down, you have to 
 tether yourself to an electrical outlet or a USB port while it's 
 charging, but if it took batteries, you could just pop a fresh battery 
 in and go. I guess for the price, you could always buy two!
 
 OK never mind, you're right, I can see where it would be a bit nor 
 inconvenient! I'm still asking for one for Father's Day though! I have 
 the Creative MuVo with 128M of memory, and having something that's 
 supposed to be just as easy to use, but with 1GB of memory is just too 
 appealing. Plus I see it's size and the fact that it has rechargeable 
 batteries as providing it's own conveniences. I don't have to worry 
 about spare batteries or carrying two separate cords.
 
 Bruce Toews wrote:
  Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
  the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?
 
  Bruce
 
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CD Architect Question

2007-06-07 Thread Larry N
Since I've started editing certain Vinyl and cassette to CD transfer 
projects in Sound Forge 8, I've learned that Nero 6.6 will not burn projects 
touched by SF. It consistently reports that I have a CDR in my drive, and 
that I need a CDR-RW instead. This is not true, as I have Nero set to Audio 
CD. Furthermore, Nero does not display the same anomaly when I burn a disk 
that was edited with DC6, Goldwave, or WavePad. So far, CD Architect seems 
to be the only burning program that will touch a Sound Forge edited project. 
My problem is that some of my customers want no gaps between tracks. In 
Nero, removing the 2 second gap between tracks is a simple matter. How can I 
accomplish the same thing when using CD Architect?

As always, thanks for any suggestions you might be able to offer.

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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread Thomas \(TJ\) Olsen
the ipod shuffle functions in the same way,

tj
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From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: Creative Zen Stone Player


 The whole point of portability is, well, portability. If you have to
 cart a computer along just so you can recharge the device you have music
 on which has been transfered from the device you're having to cart along
 to recharge the portable device ...

 Bruce
 On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 03:43:22 -0500, Christopher Chaltain
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I'm curious. How do you think this makes it more inconvenient? Are you
 thinking it's more inconvenient than something which has a rechargeable
 battery in it but uses an AC adapter to charge it? If so, I'm thinking
 whether you plug it into a USB port or an AC outlet, it would all be the
 same. I guess though AC outlets are still more ubiquitous than USB
 ports. If I go on vacation, like a cruise, I'd still have to bring my
 laptop just to recharge my Creative Zen Stone.

 If you're comparing it to something which takes batteries then I guess
 it would be more inconvenient, when the battery runs down, you have to
 tether yourself to an electrical outlet or a USB port while it's
 charging, but if it took batteries, you could just pop a fresh battery
 in and go. I guess for the price, you could always buy two!

 OK never mind, you're right, I can see where it would be a bit nor
 inconvenient! I'm still asking for one for Father's Day though! I have
 the Creative MuVo with 128M of memory, and having something that's
 supposed to be just as easy to use, but with 1GB of memory is just too
 appealing. Plus I see it's size and the fact that it has rechargeable
 batteries as providing it's own conveniences. I don't have to worry
 about spare batteries or carrying two separate cords.

 Bruce Toews wrote:
  Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
  the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?
 
  Bruce
 
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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread Allison Mervis
But with the Zen stone, you don't have to use annoying transfer software. 
You can just copy and paste from windows explorer.
Allison

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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: Creative Zen Stone Player


 the ipod shuffle functions in the same way,

 tj
 - Original Message - 
 From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:04 AM
 Subject: Re: Creative Zen Stone Player


 The whole point of portability is, well, portability. If you have to
 cart a computer along just so you can recharge the device you have music
 on which has been transfered from the device you're having to cart along
 to recharge the portable device ...

 Bruce
 On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 03:43:22 -0500, Christopher Chaltain
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I'm curious. How do you think this makes it more inconvenient? Are you
 thinking it's more inconvenient than something which has a rechargeable
 battery in it but uses an AC adapter to charge it? If so, I'm thinking
 whether you plug it into a USB port or an AC outlet, it would all be the
 same. I guess though AC outlets are still more ubiquitous than USB
 ports. If I go on vacation, like a cruise, I'd still have to bring my
 laptop just to recharge my Creative Zen Stone.

 If you're comparing it to something which takes batteries then I guess
 it would be more inconvenient, when the battery runs down, you have to
 tether yourself to an electrical outlet or a USB port while it's
 charging, but if it took batteries, you could just pop a fresh battery
 in and go. I guess for the price, you could always buy two!

 OK never mind, you're right, I can see where it would be a bit nor
 inconvenient! I'm still asking for one for Father's Day though! I have
 the Creative MuVo with 128M of memory, and having something that's
 supposed to be just as easy to use, but with 1GB of memory is just too
 appealing. Plus I see it's size and the fact that it has rechargeable
 batteries as providing it's own conveniences. I don't have to worry
 about spare batteries or carrying two separate cords.

 Bruce Toews wrote:
  Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
  the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?
 
  Bruce
 
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Re: CD Architect Question

2007-06-07 Thread Studio Montebello
Hey Larry!
What format are you using when you save your edited file in SF 8?
Jean

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- Original Message - 
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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:47 AM
Subject: CD Architect Question


 Since I've started editing certain Vinyl and cassette to CD transfer 
 projects in Sound Forge 8, I've learned that Nero 6.6 will not burn projects 
 touched by SF. It consistently reports that I have a CDR in my drive, and 
 that I need a CDR-RW instead. This is not true, as I have Nero set to Audio 
 CD. Furthermore, Nero does not display the same anomaly when I burn a disk 
 that was edited with DC6, Goldwave, or WavePad. So far, CD Architect seems 
 to be the only burning program that will touch a Sound Forge edited project. 
 My problem is that some of my customers want no gaps between tracks. In 
 Nero, removing the 2 second gap between tracks is a simple matter. How can I 
 accomplish the same thing when using CD Architect?
 
 As always, thanks for any suggestions you might be able to offer.
 
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Re: Re[2]: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread TIM GRADY
Great.  I figured there must be something like that being made.

- Original Message - 
From: pete gurney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 6:08 AM
Subject: Re[2]: Creative Zen Stone Player


 hello all,

 there is more than one solution to the problem of charging your mp3 usb
 players.
 i bought a mp3 and usb charger a while ago.
 this is a small device that looks just like a standard mains plug and has 
 a
 usb socket on the face, all you do is plug it into the wall socket and 
 plug
 any usb powered device into it to either run it off the mains or to charge
 it.
 i only paid 5.99 UK pounds for it about12 US dollars.
 the place i got mine from doesn't have this particular model any more but
 they do have an alternative one that has some extras.
 mine was for UK use only, but the one they have now is a travel version
 which comes with adapters allowing you to use it in the UK, USA, Europe or
 Australia.
  this model costs 9.99 UK pounds about 21 US dollars
 here is the url for the item:
 http://www.gizoo.co.uk/Products/AvCommunications/iPodAccessories/TravelCharg
 erUSB.htm

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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread TIM GRADY
He's just trying to justify purchasing the BP as a mp3 player.

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From: Christopher Chaltain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 4:43 AM
Subject: Re: Creative Zen Stone Player


 I'm curious. How do you think this makes it more inconvenient? Are you 
 thinking it's more inconvenient than something which has a rechargeable 
 battery in it but uses an AC adapter to charge it? If so, I'm thinking 
 whether you plug it into a USB port or an AC outlet, it would all be the 
 same. I guess though AC outlets are still more ubiquitous than USB 
 ports. If I go on vacation, like a cruise, I'd still have to bring my 
 laptop just to recharge my Creative Zen Stone.
 
 If you're comparing it to something which takes batteries then I guess 
 it would be more inconvenient, when the battery runs down, you have to 
 tether yourself to an electrical outlet or a USB port while it's 
 charging, but if it took batteries, you could just pop a fresh battery 
 in and go. I guess for the price, you could always buy two!
 
 OK never mind, you're right, I can see where it would be a bit nor 
 inconvenient! I'm still asking for one for Father's Day though! I have 
 the Creative MuVo with 128M of memory, and having something that's 
 supposed to be just as easy to use, but with 1GB of memory is just too 
 appealing. Plus I see it's size and the fact that it has rechargeable 
 batteries as providing it's own conveniences. I don't have to worry 
 about spare batteries or carrying two separate cords.
 
 Bruce Toews wrote:
 Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
 the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?

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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread Bruce Toews
No justification is necessary on that point. The BP is one of the best
purchases I've ever made, and I am now just glad I didn't purchase the
Zen stone ... not because there's anything wrong with it, but because
I'm better served by my Book Port and I'll take the larger size for what
I'm offered. Personal thing, I have nothing to justify.
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  I'm curious. How do you think this makes it more inconvenient? Are you 
  thinking it's more inconvenient than something which has a rechargeable 
  battery in it but uses an AC adapter to charge it? If so, I'm thinking 
  whether you plug it into a USB port or an AC outlet, it would all be the 
  same. I guess though AC outlets are still more ubiquitous than USB 
  ports. If I go on vacation, like a cruise, I'd still have to bring my 
  laptop just to recharge my Creative Zen Stone.
  
  If you're comparing it to something which takes batteries then I guess 
  it would be more inconvenient, when the battery runs down, you have to 
  tether yourself to an electrical outlet or a USB port while it's 
  charging, but if it took batteries, you could just pop a fresh battery 
  in and go. I guess for the price, you could always buy two!
  
  OK never mind, you're right, I can see where it would be a bit nor 
  inconvenient! I'm still asking for one for Father's Day though! I have 
  the Creative MuVo with 128M of memory, and having something that's 
  supposed to be just as easy to use, but with 1GB of memory is just too 
  appealing. Plus I see it's size and the fact that it has rechargeable 
  batteries as providing it's own conveniences. I don't have to worry 
  about spare batteries or carrying two separate cords.
  
  Bruce Toews wrote:
  Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
  the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?
 
  Bruce
 
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Re: Goldwave Question

2007-06-07 Thread Samuel Wilkins
Well, go into goldwave, press f11 to get into the control settings, choose 
volume from the tab control, tab to the wave option, make sure it is at 
100%, tab to the check box that says select, press space bar to check it and 
press enter. Hope this helps.
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 Is there any way I can record what comes out of my soundcard into 
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Re: CD Architect Question

2007-06-07 Thread Dj Paddy
Larry,

Sorry i dont' have the answer for you.

However, could you please tell me how you remove the two second gap between 
tracks in Nero?

Cheers
Dj Paddy
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Subject: CD Architect Question


 Since I've started editing certain Vinyl and cassette to CD transfer
 projects in Sound Forge 8, I've learned that Nero 6.6 will not burn 
 projects
 touched by SF. It consistently reports that I have a CDR in my drive, and
 that I need a CDR-RW instead. This is not true, as I have Nero set to 
 Audio
 CD. Furthermore, Nero does not display the same anomaly when I burn a disk
 that was edited with DC6, Goldwave, or WavePad. So far, CD Architect seems
 to be the only burning program that will touch a Sound Forge edited 
 project.
 My problem is that some of my customers want no gaps between tracks. In
 Nero, removing the 2 second gap between tracks is a simple matter. How can 
 I
 accomplish the same thing when using CD Architect?

 As always, thanks for any suggestions you might be able to offer.

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A question about cd burners

2007-06-07 Thread Larry Higgins
Hello again,

I had previously posted about a reading problem with my cd burner, 
and plan to purchase a disc cleaner later today. Wish me good luck 
g. But that begs a question.

I am wondering how Nero goes about verifying the files if the disc 
can't be read? I guess I'm revealing my obvious lack of the mechanics 
of burner tech here, but I'm wondering if burners such as mine (the 
Lit-on LTR-352327S) are equipped with one or two lens. Does it read 
and write with the same one, or separate lens. If not, why could the 
same lens write, but not read? Since this burner came with my 
computer, I think it only cost about $50 or something in that range, 
and that might give some sort of clew as to its features, or lack there of. 
 



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creative zen stone won't play.

2007-06-07 Thread Allison Mervis
Hi all!
I received my creative Zen stone today, plugged it in, deleted the sample 
tracks from the music folder, and pasted in some mp3 files of an audio book. 
I waited until the player was charged, plugged in the headphones, and held 
down the play button for one second. I heard  a little popping sound which 
told me that the player had powered up, but no other sound. I tried pushing 
all sides of the wheel, thinking that the volume might just be too low. I 
assume that the portion of the wheel with the little dot on it is volume up. 
What could I be doing wrong? Should I have put the files in the route of the 
player instead of in the music folder? Any assistance would be greatly 
appreciated.
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laser lens desk cleaning kit

2007-06-07 Thread DanFlasar
Hi,
   How many laser lens cleanings can you perform with a  kit?   I have 
DVD/CD-ROM burners on my laptop, desktop and DVD  player.
Thanks,
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Re: laser lens desk cleaning kit

2007-06-07 Thread John Price
Hello Dan,
You can run the lazer lince Cleaning disc as many times as you need to.
I myself have been known to pop it in to one machine, and when it's threw 
cleaning that one, then turn aroun and pop that disc in to another machine.
So go on ahead, run it as many times as you need to.
It will make your cd players dvd players and cd/dvd drives perform like new 
all over again.
My best regards to you all.
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   How many laser lens cleanings can you perform with a  kit?   I have
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Re: A question about cd burners

2007-06-07 Thread John Price
Hello again Larry,
Some expensif cd burners do have two linses in them, but I don't think yours 
has two linses in it.
But to be sure, you mite try looking the manufacturer up on the net.
If anything, they will be able to anser that quesgen.
And as for Nero, I wish I could help you with that issue, so again, see if 
you can find that out on the net too.
I would give you there addresses, but aforchenetly, I don't have them.
My apoligies for that.
My best regards to you all.
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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:34 PM
Subject: A question about cd burners


 Hello again,

 I had previously posted about a reading problem with my cd burner,
 and plan to purchase a disc cleaner later today. Wish me good luck
 g. But that begs a question.

 I am wondering how Nero goes about verifying the files if the disc
 can't be read? I guess I'm revealing my obvious lack of the mechanics
 of burner tech here, but I'm wondering if burners such as mine (the
 Lit-on LTR-352327S) are equipped with one or two lens. Does it read
 and write with the same one, or separate lens. If not, why could the
 same lens write, but not read? Since this burner came with my
 computer, I think it only cost about $50 or something in that range,
 and that might give some sort of clew as to its features, or lack there 
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a video that I want to play

2007-06-07 Thread Randy Tijerina
Friends, I have a little video clip that i want to play. real player tried 
to play it.
it said there were no plug-ins for this format.
it's called, video02.3gp.
i want to play it. but, is there any kind of player or software that will 
play it?
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Re: CD Architect Question

2007-06-07 Thread Larry N
Hi there. Yes in Nero there's no problen removing the 2 second gap. just do 
the following.
1. Place focus on a track which you want preceeded by something other than 
the default 2 second pause.
2. press alt+enter. At this point your screen reader should indicate that 
you are now in an edit field.
3. Tab twice. When you do that, your screen reader should say something like 
pause 2, indicating that Nero is set to pause for 2 seconds before the 
highlighted track begins.
4. Write in the number of seconds that you would like Nero to pause before 
beginning the track in question. Note that if you want no pause, you should 
enter in 0.
5. Press enter to save your choice and repeat the process with any other 
tracks where you would like the preceeding pause to be different than the 
default 2 seconds.

Hope this helps.

Larry
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Larry,

Sorry i dont' have the answer for you.

However, could you please tell me how you remove the two second gap between
tracks in Nero?

Cheers
Dj Paddy
Ôà
- Original Message - 
From: Larry N [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: PC audio discussion list.  pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 2:47 PM
Subject: CD Architect Question


 Since I've started editing certain Vinyl and cassette to CD transfer
 projects in Sound Forge 8, I've learned that Nero 6.6 will not burn
 projects
 touched by SF. It consistently reports that I have a CDR in my drive, and
 that I need a CDR-RW instead. This is not true, as I have Nero set to
 Audio
 CD. Furthermore, Nero does not display the same anomaly when I burn a disk
 that was edited with DC6, Goldwave, or WavePad. So far, CD Architect seems
 to be the only burning program that will touch a Sound Forge edited
 project.
 My problem is that some of my customers want no gaps between tracks. In
 Nero, removing the 2 second gap between tracks is a simple matter. How can
 I
 accomplish the same thing when using CD Architect?

 As always, thanks for any suggestions you might be able to offer.

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RE: creative Zen stone won't play.

2007-06-07 Thread Rick Alfaro
Allison,

This is just a shot in the dark, but after reading a review of the Zen
Stone, I recall there is a switch that you have to use to put the player in
folder navigation mode.  I am thinking that you may have to use this mode to
navigate to your music folder and then press what ever button makes a
selection to go into the folder.

I don't have a Zen Stone, so like I said this is just a shot in the dark
based on what I read.  I'd be interested to know whether that worked or not.


--Warmest regards,
 
--Rick Alfaro
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Subject: creative zen stone won't play.

Hi all!
I received my creative Zen stone today, plugged it in, deleted the sample 
tracks from the music folder, and pasted in some mp3 files of an audio book.

I waited until the player was charged, plugged in the headphones, and held 
down the play button for one second. I heard  a little popping sound which 
told me that the player had powered up, but no other sound. I tried pushing 
all sides of the wheel, thinking that the volume might just be too low. I 
assume that the portion of the wheel with the little dot on it is volume up.

What could I be doing wrong? Should I have put the files in the route of the

player instead of in the music folder? Any assistance would be greatly 
appreciated.
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Re: creative Zen stone won't play.

2007-06-07 Thread Gary G Schindler
I have been trying to find and access a manual for the Zen Stone, but haven't 
had 
any luck finding it. if someone has it, may I have it please? then I may be 
able 
to help Alison. I think I can buy one of these players for $10.00 or so.


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Subject: RE: creative Zen stone won't play.


Allison,

This is just a shot in the dark, but after reading a review of the Zen
Stone, I recall there is a switch that you have to use to put the player in
folder navigation mode.  I am thinking that you may have to use this mode to
navigate to your music folder and then press what ever button makes a
selection to go into the folder.

I don't have a Zen Stone, so like I said this is just a shot in the dark
based on what I read.  I'd be interested to know whether that worked or not.


--Warmest regards,

--Rick Alfaro
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Subject: creative zen stone won't play.

Hi all!
I received my creative Zen stone today, plugged it in, deleted the sample
tracks from the music folder, and pasted in some mp3 files of an audio book.

I waited until the player was charged, plugged in the headphones, and held
down the play button for one second. I heard  a little popping sound which
told me that the player had powered up, but no other sound. I tried pushing
all sides of the wheel, thinking that the volume might just be too low. I
assume that the portion of the wheel with the little dot on it is volume up.

What could I be doing wrong? Should I have put the files in the route of the

player instead of in the music folder? Any assistance would be greatly
appreciated.
Allison



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Re: creative Zen stone won't play.

2007-06-07 Thread Allison Mervis
Hi Rick!
It turns out I was just being impatient. This is nothing new. Lol. You need 
to hold down the play button for about three seconds during, and then wait 
ten to fifteen seconds for it to start playing the file.
Allison

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Allison,

This is just a shot in the dark, but after reading a review of the Zen
Stone, I recall there is a switch that you have to use to put the player in
folder navigation mode.  I am thinking that you may have to use this mode to
navigate to your music folder and then press what ever button makes a
selection to go into the folder.

I don't have a Zen Stone, so like I said this is just a shot in the dark
based on what I read.  I'd be interested to know whether that worked or not.


--Warmest regards,

--Rick Alfaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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On Behalf Of Allison Mervis
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 3:04 PM
To: list., PC audio discussion, ; org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: creative zen stone won't play.

Hi all!
I received my creative Zen stone today, plugged it in, deleted the sample
tracks from the music folder, and pasted in some mp3 files of an audio book.

I waited until the player was charged, plugged in the headphones, and held
down the play button for one second. I heard  a little popping sound which
told me that the player had powered up, but no other sound. I tried pushing
all sides of the wheel, thinking that the volume might just be too low. I
assume that the portion of the wheel with the little dot on it is volume up.

What could I be doing wrong? Should I have put the files in the route of the

player instead of in the music folder? Any assistance would be greatly
appreciated.
Allison



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Re: creative Zen stone won't play.

2007-06-07 Thread Kevin Lloyd
Hi Gary.

The zen stoen is so simple that a manual really isn't necessary.  As Alison 
has discovered, you do have to hold the play button for 2 to 3 seconds and 
then wait 10 to 15 seconds for playback to start.

I'd recommend taking a look at the following site to get a good overview of 
the player:
http://www.hartgen.org/zenstone.html

Regards.

Kevin
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Subject: Re: creative Zen stone won't play.


I have been trying to find and access a manual for the Zen Stone, but 
haven't had
 any luck finding it. if someone has it, may I have it please? then I may 
 be able
 to help Alison. I think I can buy one of these players for $10.00 or so.


 - Original Message - 
 From: Rick Alfaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 7:24 PM
 Subject: RE: creative Zen stone won't play.


 Allison,

 This is just a shot in the dark, but after reading a review of the Zen
 Stone, I recall there is a switch that you have to use to put the player 
 in
 folder navigation mode.  I am thinking that you may have to use this mode 
 to
 navigate to your music folder and then press what ever button makes a
 selection to go into the folder.

 I don't have a Zen Stone, so like I said this is just a shot in the dark
 based on what I read.  I'd be interested to know whether that worked or 
 not.


 --Warmest regards,

 --Rick Alfaro
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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 On Behalf Of Allison Mervis
 Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 3:04 PM
 To: list., PC audio discussion, ; org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: creative zen stone won't play.

 Hi all!
 I received my creative Zen stone today, plugged it in, deleted the sample
 tracks from the music folder, and pasted in some mp3 files of an audio 
 book.

 I waited until the player was charged, plugged in the headphones, and held
 down the play button for one second. I heard  a little popping sound which
 told me that the player had powered up, but no other sound. I tried 
 pushing
 all sides of the wheel, thinking that the volume might just be too low. I
 assume that the portion of the wheel with the little dot on it is volume 
 up.

 What could I be doing wrong? Should I have put the files in the route of 
 the

 player instead of in the music folder? Any assistance would be greatly
 appreciated.
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problem with sound taxi.

2007-06-07 Thread Allison Mervis
Hi all!
I managed to get sound taxi installed on my system and registered without 
any major mishaps. However, when I played back a song which I had converted, 
I noticed that it skipped. It's a song from rhapsody, and I was converting 
from the original wma format to a 192K (they called it 190 K) mp3 file. Is 
there anything I can do to keep this from happening? I bought this program, 
and I really like it for the most part, but I need it to function reliably. 
Thanks!
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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread Kevin Lloyd
Hi Bruce.

I see the BP and Zen Stone as serving completely different purposes rather 
than two products competing in the same market so it's more likely that 
you'd want both rather than one or the other.  I don't have a BP and haven't 
seenit's specs but I'd be very surprised if it had a great spec for playing 
music when you consider it's main purpose in life is to play the spoken 
word.

The zen stone on the other hand is primarily a music player designed and 
built to provide the best playback quality possible in the tiniest size to 
compete with apple's products.  It has a frequency range of 20 hz to 20 Khz 
whereas typically, players like the olympus ds50, milestone  and I'd imagine 
the BP will only cover 50 hz to 19 Khz.

The zen stone battery life is approx 10 hours on a full charge and it would 
of course be ridiculous to assume you'd need to take a laptop with you to 
recharge.  These types of players always come with an adaptor to charge from 
mains and these can be hhad very cheaply.

Regards.

Kevin
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Subject: Re: Creative Zen Stone Player


 No justification is necessary on that point. The BP is one of the best
 purchases I've ever made, and I am now just glad I didn't purchase the
 Zen stone ... not because there's anything wrong with it, but because
 I'm better served by my Book Port and I'll take the larger size for what
 I'm offered. Personal thing, I have nothing to justify.
 Bruce
 On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:00:27 -0400, TIM GRADY [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 said:
 He's just trying to justify purchasing the BP as a mp3 player.

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 From: Christopher Chaltain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  I'm curious. How do you think this makes it more inconvenient? Are you
  thinking it's more inconvenient than something which has a rechargeable
  battery in it but uses an AC adapter to charge it? If so, I'm thinking
  whether you plug it into a USB port or an AC outlet, it would all be 
  the
  same. I guess though AC outlets are still more ubiquitous than USB
  ports. If I go on vacation, like a cruise, I'd still have to bring my
  laptop just to recharge my Creative Zen Stone.
 
  If you're comparing it to something which takes batteries then I guess
  it would be more inconvenient, when the battery runs down, you have to
  tether yourself to an electrical outlet or a USB port while it's
  charging, but if it took batteries, you could just pop a fresh battery
  in and go. I guess for the price, you could always buy two!
 
  OK never mind, you're right, I can see where it would be a bit nor
  inconvenient! I'm still asking for one for Father's Day though! I have
  the Creative MuVo with 128M of memory, and having something that's
  supposed to be just as easy to use, but with 1GB of memory is just too
  appealing. Plus I see it's size and the fact that it has rechargeable
  batteries as providing it's own conveniences. I don't have to worry
  about spare batteries or carrying two separate cords.
 
  Bruce Toews wrote:
  Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
  the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?
 
  Bruce
 
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Re: Creative Zen Stone Player

2007-06-07 Thread Don Ball
you know we don't know how long it  takes to charge the thing up. It could 
take as little as 15 minutes. It will surely take no longer than 1 hour.
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From: Christopher Chaltain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Creative Zen Stone Player


I'm curious. How do you think this makes it more inconvenient? Are you
thinking it's more inconvenient than something which has a rechargeable
battery in it but uses an AC adapter to charge it? If so, I'm thinking
whether you plug it into a USB port or an AC outlet, it would all be the
same. I guess though AC outlets are still more ubiquitous than USB
ports. If I go on vacation, like a cruise, I'd still have to bring my
laptop just to recharge my Creative Zen Stone.

If you're comparing it to something which takes batteries then I guess
it would be more inconvenient, when the battery runs down, you have to
tether yourself to an electrical outlet or a USB port while it's
charging, but if it took batteries, you could just pop a fresh battery
in and go. I guess for the price, you could always buy two!

OK never mind, you're right, I can see where it would be a bit nor
inconvenient! I'm still asking for one for Father's Day though! I have
the Creative MuVo with 128M of memory, and having something that's
supposed to be just as easy to use, but with 1GB of memory is just too
appealing. Plus I see it's size and the fact that it has rechargeable
batteries as providing it's own conveniences. I don't have to worry
about spare batteries or carrying two separate cords.

Bruce Toews wrote:
 Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of
 the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience?

 Bruce

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