country restrictions on radio stations

2012-03-17 Thread André van Deventer
Hi all

 

This is a very strange situation.

 

Within Mapler, I could listen to bbc 5 live sport to the 6 nations rugby
union matches without any problems.  Now suddenly when I try to do the same
I am told by a recorded voice that the material is not available for my
country.

 

Very strange!  Can someone help here?

 

Andre

 

 

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RE: country restrictions on radio stations

2012-03-17 Thread Judy Watford

It happens with the Grand National. They may have sold the rights to another
company. They use your ip address to stop you...

Judy
 

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Subject: country restrictions on radio stations

Hi all

 

This is a very strange situation.

 

Within Mapler, I could listen to bbc 5 live sport to the 6 nations rugby
union matches without any problems.  Now suddenly when I try to do the same
I am told by a recorded voice that the material is not available for my
country.

 

Very strange!  Can someone help here?

 

Andre

 

 

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Re: country restrictions on radio stations

2012-03-17 Thread Dane Trethowan
You need Witopia, http://www.witopia.net I use them all the time for their 
VPN services, choose the server you want to match the radio station or tv 
station you're listening to and away you go.


On 18/03/2012, at 1:58 AM, Judy Watford wrote:

 
 It happens with the Grand National. They may have sold the rights to another
 company. They use your ip address to stop you...
 
 Judy
 
 
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 On Behalf Of André van Deventer
 Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:16 AM
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Subject: country restrictions on radio stations
 
 Hi all
 
 
 
 This is a very strange situation.
 
 
 
 Within Mapler, I could listen to bbc 5 live sport to the 6 nations rugby
 union matches without any problems.  Now suddenly when I try to do the same
 I am told by a recorded voice that the material is not available for my
 country.
 
 
 
 Very strange!  Can someone help here?
 
 
 
 Andre
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: country restrictions on radio stations

2012-03-17 Thread André van Deventer
Wonder if there is any way to work it so that they do not see your IP
address!!



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It happens with the Grand National. They may have sold the rights to another
company. They use your ip address to stop you...

Judy
 

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Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:16 AM
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Subject: country restrictions on radio stations

Hi all

 

This is a very strange situation.

 

Within Mapler, I could listen to bbc 5 live sport to the 6 nations rugby
union matches without any problems.  Now suddenly when I try to do the same
I am told by a recorded voice that the material is not available for my
country.

 

Very strange!  Can someone help here?

 

Andre

 

 

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RE: country restrictions on radio stations

2012-03-17 Thread André van Deventer
Thanx dane!

Will look into that!



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VPN services, choose the server you want to match the radio station or tv
station you're listening to and away you go.


On 18/03/2012, at 1:58 AM, Judy Watford wrote:

 
 It happens with the Grand National. They may have sold the rights to 
 another company. They use your ip address to stop you...
 
 Judy
 
 
 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of André van Deventer
 Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:16 AM
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Subject: country restrictions on radio stations
 
 Hi all
 
 
 
 This is a very strange situation.
 
 
 
 Within Mapler, I could listen to bbc 5 live sport to the 6 nations 
 rugby union matches without any problems.  Now suddenly when I try to 
 do the same I am told by a recorded voice that the material is not 
 available for my country.
 
 
 
 Very strange!  Can someone help here?
 
 
 
 Andre
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: important article i found about music

2012-03-17 Thread Kulvinder Singh Bhogal
I'm not sure how many people have posted this article but I think we know 
what the crack is now.


Can we please move on now.

Regards.

Kulvinder Singh Bhogal
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To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 12:43 AM
Subject: important article i found about music


Ok for starters, i myself do not pirate.  But I think this is important 
anyway because it may affect more than just piracy someday.


Internet providers pull the plug on downloaders

If the Recording Industry Association of America doesn't send you a nasty
letter in the mail for that Steely Dan album you downloaded, you might not
necessarily be quite off the hook.

Internet providers to start policing the web July 12

Published: 15 March, 2012, 20:49

AFP Photo / Samantha Sin

TAGS:Scandal, Politics, Internet, Information Technology, USA

Some of the biggest Internet service providers in America plan to adopt
policies that will punish customers for copyright infringement, and one of
the top trade groups in the music biz announced this week that it could
begin as soon as this summer.

The chief executive officer of the Recording Industry Association of 
America
told an audience of publishers on Wednesday that a plan carved out last 
year

to help thwart piracy is expected to prevail and be put in place by this
summer. RIAA CEO Cary Sherman was one of the guest speakers among a New 
York

panel this week and he confirmed that, at this rate, some of the most
powerful Internet providers in America should have their new policies on 
the

books by July 12, 2012.

Last year, Time Warner, Verizon, ATT, Comcast, Cablevision Systems and
other Internet service providers proposed best practice recommendations 
that

they suggested would help curb copyright crimes on the Web. The end result
largely settled on consisted of a graduate response approach, a plan 
that

would mean culprits could be issued a series of warnings for illegally
downloading suspect material which, after a certain number of offenses,
would lead to mitigation measures, connection speed throttling and
termination of service.

We anticipate that very few subscribers, after having received multiple
alerts, will persist (or allow others to persist) in the content theft, 
the

Center for Copyright Information said in an official statement last summer
as plans were first publicized. Now nearly a year after developments made 
by

the big ISPs were first discussed, the RIAA's Sherman says that online
censorship sanctioned by corporate conglomerates such as Time Warner and
Verizon are practically set in stone.

Discussing the road to realizing how to implement the policies, Sherman
briefly touched on the technical aspects of the plan this week during the
panel. Each ISP has to develop their infrastructure for automating the
system, Sherman said. They need this for establishing the database so 
they

can keep track of repeat infringers, so they know that this is the first
notice or the third notice. Every ISP has to do it differently depending 
on
the architecture of its particular network. Some are nearing completion 
and

others are a little further from completion.

So what does this mean for you? If you're an Internet user in America,
almost certainly something significant. Between Time Warner, Verizon, 
ATT,
Comcast and Cablevision, those ISPs alone accounted for around 51 percent 
of
the market in America back in 2008. Figures from June 2010 collected by 
the

United Nation's ITU division suggests that there are around 240 million
Internet users now in the US, which means more than three-fourths of the
country's total population. With those big ISPs only thriving since their
last figures were disclosed, 51 percent coverage of the market today would
mean that around 120 million users can expect to fall under the umbrella 
of
a massive campaign that could soon see half of the country at risk of 
having

their Internet shut off.

As RT reported last year, a flip of the kill-switch is indeed an option 
that

ISPs can take if they decide they find their customers at fault. That
doesn't mean it's the be-all-end-all response, though. Under the
six-strike policy discussed last year, each alleged instance of 
copyright

infringement would prompt the ISP to reach out to its customer in question
and inform them that they have detected a violation of US law. Strikes one
through four would constitute email warnings of increasing severity, but
five through six can come with legal action and end with the termination 
of

service and potentially time behind bars. Although cooperating ISPs said
last year that they would suspend service after a certain number of
infringements, today they are hesitant to announce permanently cancelling
any accounts - but merely putting them on hold while users respond to 
their

legal requests.

The explanation for a 

RE: country restrictions on radio stations

2012-03-17 Thread André van Deventer
Dane

Thanx.  Have now bought access from them.

Is it necessary to download the java access bridge to use their client?

Andre



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On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: 17 March 2012 05:03 PM
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Subject: Re: country restrictions on radio stations

You need Witopia, http://www.witopia.net I use them all the time for their
VPN services, choose the server you want to match the radio station or tv
station you're listening to and away you go.


On 18/03/2012, at 1:58 AM, Judy Watford wrote:

 
 It happens with the Grand National. They may have sold the rights to 
 another company. They use your ip address to stop you...
 
 Judy
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org 
 [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
 On Behalf Of André van Deventer
 Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:16 AM
 To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Subject: country restrictions on radio stations
 
 Hi all
 
 
 
 This is a very strange situation.
 
 
 
 Within Mapler, I could listen to bbc 5 live sport to the 6 nations 
 rugby union matches without any problems.  Now suddenly when I try to 
 do the same I am told by a recorded voice that the material is not 
 available for my country.
 
 
 
 Very strange!  Can someone help here?
 
 
 
 Andre
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: important article i found about music

2012-03-17 Thread Kulvinder Singh Bhogal

Someone needs to take a chill pill.

Not even allowed to say anything now.

Watch your blood pressure doesn't go through the roof.

Kulvinder Singh Bhogal
Skype: bobba2006
Messenger: kulvin...@live.com
Tel: 01332 514323
Mobile: 07581483856
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Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: important article i found about music



excuse the fucking hell out of me!
Damn people on some email liss are shitty.
I'm the only one that fucking posted this so relax you fuckin cunt fucker

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Re: important article i found about music

2012-03-17 Thread angie loves alex

This sad wr scott is not fit to be on lists




--
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 18:15 GMT Kulvinder Singh Bhogal wrote:

Someone needs to take a chill pill.

Not even allowed to say anything now.

Watch your blood pressure doesn't go through the roof.

Kulvinder Singh Bhogal
Skype: bobba2006
Messenger: kulvin...@live.com
Tel: 01332 514323
Mobile: 07581483856
- Original Message - From: Scott scott2...@samobile.net
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:01 PM
Subject: Re: important article i found about music


 excuse the fucking hell out of me!
 Damn people on some email liss are shitty.
 I'm the only one that fucking posted this so relax you fuckin cunt fucker
 
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RE: important article I found about music

2012-03-17 Thread Christopher Bartlett
Ahem!  Responding to the content of the original post, this is a
short-sighted move on the part of IAPs as they are voluntarily surrendering
their protected status or safe harbor, a provision under the flawed DMCA
that said that carriers were not responsible for the content their users
post or download.  This has been the major reason you haven't seen the MPAA
and RIAA thugs going after the carriers who, after all, have so much more
money than Jamie Thomas or the average Internet user.  Let us be clear, when
this steaming pile of crap fails to work, as it will, because major
infringers will find technology to get around it, who's going to get left
with the lawsuits?  The very carriers who have failed to police their
users adequately.

So, what we're going to see is the carriers, not accountable to anyone for
how they enforce their new policies, the RIAA and MPAA as usual demanding
measures that will gut the Internet for legitimate uses, and key
technologies for anonymization under fire as havens for piracy.  In my world
their profit motive is trumped by my right to privacy, or, the ability for
on-line activists to be able to evade repressive governments, including that
of my own United States of America.

In short, this is just going to cost us all in the end.

If you have the option of switching ISPs to one that does not support this
travesty, do it now, vote with your money.  This is the only way to force
the thugs to act more responsibly.

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Re: country restrictions on radio stations

2012-03-17 Thread vrvaughan

Do you think, this would work for receiving BBC in the US?

Many thanks! Vicky
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Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: country restrictions on radio stations


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VPN services, choose the server you want to match the radio station or tv 
station you're listening to and away you go.



On 18/03/2012, at 1:58 AM, Judy Watford wrote:



It happens with the Grand National. They may have sold the rights to 
another

company. They use your ip address to stop you...

Judy


-Original Message-
From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org]
On Behalf Of André van Deventer
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:16 AM
To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Subject: country restrictions on radio stations

Hi all



This is a very strange situation.



Within Mapler, I could listen to bbc 5 live sport to the 6 nations rugby
union matches without any problems.  Now suddenly when I try to do the 
same

I am told by a recorded voice that the material is not available for my
country.



Very strange!  Can someone help here?



Andre





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Re: Message From The PC Audio E-mail List owner

2012-03-17 Thread Steve Matzura
What Jonathan or Jeff did is ancient history, relatively speaking of
course. I don't believe in legacy management. That means I don't
believe list moderators need to carry torches. It's your list now. You
do with it as you like. You were not necessarily entrusted with the
ownership of this list because either Jonathan or Jeff expected you to
drive it in any particular direction, and there is certainly no
provision for either of them taking the list away from you if they
don't like how you're running it. At least, I don't think there is
(LOL). Bottom line, it's your toy and you're letting us play with it.
Make whatever rule you like with the full confidence that you should
definitely have in doing such. If we don't like it, we don't have to
stay. I run a few lists of my own, small ones, just a few hundred
subscribers each, which have spawned, or spun off if you prefer, other
lists on side issues and threads of which I don't tolerate discussion
on my list, and that's both my and my subscribers' prerogative. As you
pointed out, the list of devices for recording and playing audio
whilst connected to a PC is now far longer in lo these dozen short
years, and you've also no doubt noticed there are lots of lists for
the discussion of those devices. Bottom line, like I said before, it's
up to you how you want to drive your own list, and it's up to us
whether we want to stay with it or move on. No harm, no foul, as they
say. And, as I say, that's why there's Coke and Pepsi--always choices.

On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 17:31:53 -0500, you wrote:

I appreciate the comments some subscribers to this e-mail 
list have made regarding what is and what is not on topic for 
this list, and I thank you for your input.

You may or may not know that Jonathan Mosen started this list 
many years ago.  I'm not sure when, but it was around 1999.  
After a few years Jonathan no longer wanted to be moderator 
so he turned it over to Jeff Harris.  I'm pretty sure that 
Jeff is the one who obtained the domain name and took care of 
the web hosting site, at ultrahost.us.  After another few 
years Jeff no longer wanted the list so Jonathan again became 
the list owner and moderator.

Again, my memory is a bit fuzzy on the time interval, but it 
was perhaps five or six years ago when Jonathan asked for 
volunteers to take ownership and moderating the list and, I'm 
not sure why, but he chose me from those who responded.  I 
did not write the guidelines for what is appropriate to be 
posted to the list.  It was either Jonathan or Jeff.

It's a difficult decision to make as to what is appropriate 
for the list and what is not.  When the guidelines were 
written, there weren't devices such as iPods, iPhones, 
Humanware or Victor Streams.  Discussing cell phones has been 
off topic on this list for a long time.  Jonathan even has, 
or had, a list for these discussions.

Since the traffic on the list is still rather small, I think 
we'll just see how subjects and issues play out.  Any 
comments regarding the content of the list will be appreciated.

I do pay a fee every year for the domain name and web hosting 
space so I take the list seriously and I want it to be 
whatever the majority of list members prefer.

My e-mail address is:

t...@pc-audio.org

Thanks for reading, if you did!

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book tapes

2012-03-17 Thread Holger Fiallo
Hello.
I have many audio books and music on tapes (cassettes) Would like to put them 
in my PC. Which program will help me do so and work with jaws 13. Using window 
seven home 64 and jaws 13.

Holger Fiallo
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Re: Message From The PC Audio E-mail List owner

2012-03-17 Thread Dane Trethowan
The best statement I've heard yet so thanks Steve for posting.

As far as I'm concerned Mr Moderator, you're doing a damn good job at 
moderation and thank you for posting to the list, I'd rather hear from the 
moderators themselves than pretend list cops, why is it that all the 
Christopher's I know are an absolute pain in the behind to deal with smile.

Anyway back to the subject in hand, this list has a wide scope of messages on 
it at anyone time and some of these threads do start off on the right subject 
but can lead to others which aren't appropriate for the list perhaps? Well in 
such cases I reckon that good moderation dictates that at least a list member 
or 2 can point a person to another list or group which can deal with a subject 
more efficiently, an example of this sort of thing might be playing music on a 
mobile phone, its easy to start talking then about accessibility with speech 
which can probably be handled better on a list which is dedicated to mobile 
phone accessibility so the least that can be done to try and be helpful to all 
concern is for someone to post details of that list.


On 18/03/2012, at 2:53 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:

 What Jonathan or Jeff did is ancient history, relatively speaking of
 course. I don't believe in legacy management. That means I don't
 believe list moderators need to carry torches. It's your list now. You
 do with it as you like. You were not necessarily entrusted with the
 ownership of this list because either Jonathan or Jeff expected you to
 drive it in any particular direction, and there is certainly no
 provision for either of them taking the list away from you if they
 don't like how you're running it. At least, I don't think there is
 (LOL). Bottom line, it's your toy and you're letting us play with it.
 Make whatever rule you like with the full confidence that you should
 definitely have in doing such. If we don't like it, we don't have to
 stay. I run a few lists of my own, small ones, just a few hundred
 subscribers each, which have spawned, or spun off if you prefer, other
 lists on side issues and threads of which I don't tolerate discussion
 on my list, and that's both my and my subscribers' prerogative. As you
 pointed out, the list of devices for recording and playing audio
 whilst connected to a PC is now far longer in lo these dozen short
 years, and you've also no doubt noticed there are lots of lists for
 the discussion of those devices. Bottom line, like I said before, it's
 up to you how you want to drive your own list, and it's up to us
 whether we want to stay with it or move on. No harm, no foul, as they
 say. And, as I say, that's why there's Coke and Pepsi--always choices.
 
 On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 17:31:53 -0500, you wrote:
 
 I appreciate the comments some subscribers to this e-mail 
 list have made regarding what is and what is not on topic for 
 this list, and I thank you for your input.
 
 You may or may not know that Jonathan Mosen started this list 
 many years ago.  I'm not sure when, but it was around 1999.  
 After a few years Jonathan no longer wanted to be moderator 
 so he turned it over to Jeff Harris.  I'm pretty sure that 
 Jeff is the one who obtained the domain name and took care of 
 the web hosting site, at ultrahost.us.  After another few 
 years Jeff no longer wanted the list so Jonathan again became 
 the list owner and moderator.
 
 Again, my memory is a bit fuzzy on the time interval, but it 
 was perhaps five or six years ago when Jonathan asked for 
 volunteers to take ownership and moderating the list and, I'm 
 not sure why, but he chose me from those who responded.  I 
 did not write the guidelines for what is appropriate to be 
 posted to the list.  It was either Jonathan or Jeff.
 
 It's a difficult decision to make as to what is appropriate 
 for the list and what is not.  When the guidelines were 
 written, there weren't devices such as iPods, iPhones, 
 Humanware or Victor Streams.  Discussing cell phones has been 
 off topic on this list for a long time.  Jonathan even has, 
 or had, a list for these discussions.
 
 Since the traffic on the list is still rather small, I think 
 we'll just see how subjects and issues play out.  Any 
 comments regarding the content of the list will be appreciated.
 
 I do pay a fee every year for the domain name and web hosting 
 space so I take the list seriously and I want it to be 
 whatever the majority of list members prefer.
 
 My e-mail address is:
 
 t...@pc-audio.org
 
 Thanks for reading, if you did!
 
 Tom
 
 
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