RE: Changing sound source when recording in Goldwave
Hello Clive, press F11 and go to devices. Tab until you get to recording and you should find a list of options including microphone, line-in and stereo mix or what you hear. Select that and press OK. Hope this helps. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Clive Lever Sent: 10 May 2014 19:16 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: Changing sound source when recording in Goldwave Hello all, I have goldwave 5.58. My personal default setting has been to record only from the line in to my PC, as I have been encoding loads of items from cassette to MP3. How do I change the setting to record from the PC, so that I can take the recording of an audio stream of a radio station on the internet? Then, how do I change back again? Thanks, Clive -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 10 May 2014 18:44 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Sound bars Hello Mike and list: That might be just the thing I would need as a lot of my TV watching is back here in the room where I keep most of my stuff...bud now and then (if I have my satellite dish in use to record something for later viewing) that's when I'll fire up the Sony in the living room; is then that I wish I had a little better sounding audio; not that it's completely terrible! But I wouldn't mind having it better if it's practical! Mike, what brand is your sound bar? Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:28 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound bars Hi Tom, Most certainly, a sound bar will help a whole lot.I have a 40 inch television and added a 37 inch sound bar. They offer enough internal enclosure to give it some of that rich depth the old set had. Remember to get as wide of a sound bar as your particular installation can allow for great stereo separation. Its a cheap alternative, and I only paid about $ 65 for the sound bar. It was very pleasing when it was set up and I've never regretted the purchase. Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:47 PM Subject: RE: Sound bars Hello Mike and list: Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I would have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the television sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned! It's a shame that you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that audio sound like not much better than a little portable set! Of course I think I know that the idea is; the idea is that the manufactures of these sets want you to go out and hook a stereo sound system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) would be simpler if they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then people wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment! I have my television back here in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo. But the Sony 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't really know that it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the TV out there...maybe one of those Soundbars would do some justice for it! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day. I don't go to the trouble of turning it on and off. It makes no noise, and only when the television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the sound bar and amplified. Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, they sound very tinny and cheap. The sound bar, even cheap ones help quite a bit. I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected to the television sound quality. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if the Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to the Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with your smart device. On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas wheelt...@centurylink.net wrote: Hi, I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a sound bar on top of a flat screen television. Not quite so. The one I purchased is about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder. Meaning it is the size in length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat bottom surface. What happened with mine is it improved the television sound quality immensely, but the
Re: Soundbars
I don't really know where I heard this, but I thought I heard it somewhere, either from a Soundbar Manufacturer, or a TV manufacturer. I don't know why, but it would seem to me to make sense. I'm not an expert on those things. - Original Message - From: Walter Ramage w...@blueyonder.co.uk To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:26 AM Subject: RE: Soundbars Don't know who told you that? but either they don't know what they are talking about or are trying to wind you up, or both. Walter. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: 10 May 2014 09:20 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars I hear that soundbars shouldn't be any bigger than your TV screen. - Original Message - From: Walter Ramage w...@blueyonder.co.uk To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:35 PM Subject: RE: Soundbars Hi Dane. I would recommend strongly the Bose Cinemate SR1. This Soundbar is extraordinary. The technology it contains inside is remarkable. When it is set up you get a little confused for a moment or two because you hear sounds coming from parts of the room where you know there are no speakers but that is how it works by bouncing sounds off walls and ceiling and it acts just like a surround sound system. The set up procedure is all automated and you are talked through it. It comes with a large subwoofer and it is a really high quality sound. The sound bar can be placed on the wall, or it can sit on the table in front of the TV. This positioning has no ill effect on sound quality due to the technology inside, it adjusts to its position. The Soundbar though isn't cheap but you truly get what you pay for. It isn't large just over a metre wide and about 7 or 8 inches deep. The Subwoofer is Bluetooth and connects automatically when turned on. As I said, it isn't cheap, it is £1,300 in the UK, around $2,100 U.S. You can get cheaper soundbars but they are not so good and the Sonas Soundbar doesn't come with a subwoofer. You can get much more expensive soundbars but you have the rear speaker problem but with the SR1 you don't. The SR1 has a big brother but it is nearly double the price but I don't think the sound quality is any better but you get a number of other benefits but in my view, none that merits the nearly doubling of the price. It is really worth your while going and having a listen and judge for yourself. Walter -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 09 May 2014 21:59 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Soundbars Hi! Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone could give a description of what a soundbar looks like. I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the smaller 19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top of a soundbar, would be near perfect. So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall or what? --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
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I've never heard one, but I thought in a post that someone said that he got that surround experience. - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:07 AM Subject: RE: Sound bars I'll stick to a true surround sound system thanks. I understand the fact that sound bars are way better then TV speakers, and hell yeah they are. But there are 8 channals in a 7.1 Blu-Ray movie, and each one has a set of sounds. To hear them all you need a true system. Thing is sometimes people try to sell them to you as if you are getting the full movie experience. Not so. At the movies you have all 6 speakers if 5.1, or 8 if 7.1. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound bars But I would rather hear it from a soundbar, or like I have it, with my surround sound and speakers. Maybe I'll have to check those soundbars out somewhere. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 7:47 PM Subject: RE: Sound bars Hello Mike and list: Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I would have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the television sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned! It's a shame that you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that audio sound like not much better than a little portable set! Of course I think I know that the idea is; the idea is that the manufactures of these sets want you to go out and hook a stereo sound system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) would be simpler if they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then people wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment! I have my television back here in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo. But the Sony 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't really know that it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the TV out there...maybe one of those Soundbars would do some justice for it! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day. I don't go to the trouble of turning it on and off. It makes no noise, and only when the television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the sound bar and amplified. Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, they sound very tinny and cheap. The sound bar, even cheap ones help quite a bit. I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected to the television sound quality. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if the Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to the Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with your smart device. On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas wheelt...@centurylink.net wrote: Hi, I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a sound bar on top of a flat screen television. Not quite so. The one I purchased is about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder. Meaning it is the size in length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat bottom surface. What happened with mine is it improved the television sound quality immensely, but the television had to sit behind the sound bar, and needed to be raised just a little so the television could see the remote signal. I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off. It makes no other sound and just sits in an idle mode. I do have a blueTooth model, so I can put it that mode and play something from my tablet or iphone with it. Hope this helps, Mike - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:58 PM Subject: Soundbars Hi! Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone could give a description of what a soundbar looks like. I'm getting a bigger Television for the lounge so time to move the smaller 19 inch set I have into the den, I'm thinking about placing this on top of a soundbar, would be near perfect. So does the soundbar just sit on the floor, on a shelf, mounted on a wall or what? ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862
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This sounds like it makes sense. Bose used to have an Accoustomass system that I heard a demonstration of in a store. The sppeakers seemed close together, and I didn't see how it could sound that way, but in the de4mo, it seems like I did hear things behind me and everywhere, it seems. - Original Message - From: pete gurney p...@gurneyfamily.org.uk To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:48 AM Subject: Re: Sound bars hello all, i'm a bit late coming in on this but if you get a really good sound bar it can be as good as a wired surround sound system. i have both a sound bar in the front room and a wired surround system in the dining room they are both made by yamaha and the soundbar sounds every bit as good as the wired system including you hearing everything around and behind you. the soundbar i have is model yamaha ysp40d. admittedly the normal price of this was £1500 or roughly $2500 but i got it when it was being replaced with a newer model so got it for £500 roughly $830 but it is a very impressive bit of equipment. it is about 40 inches long and has 42 individual speakers in it which fire off the sound in all different directions. when you set it up you plug a microphone in to it on a long lead and place it level with the centre of the tv screen and 6 to 8 feet away then tell it to auto setup and go out of the room and close the door. from outside it sounds like something from the movie close encounter of the third kind as you can hear all these odd sounds being bounced off of every surface in the room. when it's finished it has programmed all the speakers to give off their sound fractions of seconds apart bouncing the sound off of the walls, ceiling, and furniture to give you a full surround effect. when it sets itself up it can even tell weather you have soft furnishing and carpets in the room and takes this into account. it also has a mass of different connections which means you could have 10 or 12 pieces of equipment all connected to it at the same time. i prefer this sound bar to the wired systems as obviously it's neater and you don't need to run wires everywhere, but i do think you need to get a sound bar that has this type of auto setup with multi speakers in it. i've seen several over the last 5 years since i got mine that have this capability but not with as many speakers but they have also been at a much more reasonable price. pete.
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And I also need to get a new TV, because my Sony has only one HDMI input, and I need more, so I can use my Apple TV, and my cable. - Original Message - From: Mike Thomas wheelt...@centurylink.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars Hi Howard, Older televisions typically had enough speaker enclosure and did not require something like a sound bar. The newer flat screen models are the ones we speak of, and most if not all have multiple modes of input and output, making it a simple matter of plugging in a stereo cable or HDMI cable and making the connection. Mike - Original Message - From: Howard Traxler how...@traxlerenterprises.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 6:57 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars How does one get the audio from the TV into any other device. My TV (a probably 25-year-old Zenith) has inputs for left, right, and video. It has no outputs at all. All you get is the little internal speakers that are (maybe) 24 inches apart. I also have another set (off brand) that I bought about 14 years ago to catch girls. It has no connections, in or out. Howard - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:10 AM Subject: RE: Soundbars Why yes music does sound epic on a surround sound system. That's one of the things I did when testing the Bose Lifestyle V35. I played music on it. It's cool how since it splits the audio among the 5 speakers, you get a lot more detail. I played Tik Tok on it. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars With the surround sound I have,, and I also listen to music on it, as well as watching TV. I also think that music sounds great on it. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars I agree with pretty much everything that Walter has written below, Soundbars are a very convenient option, to illustrate the point let's take my situation where I'm using a room with a small TV, I have a surround-sound system in the lounge but don't want that in my Den, I just want something I can use with my Television. Using a Soundbar would mean very little set-up on my part to enjoy the experience of Surround-Sound in a movie or from Channels on my Set Top Box etc, no need to set-up individual speakers as I did in the lounge and so on. It should be noted that - whatever system you used with your Television these days - would improve the sound quality of your TV, the speakers in those TV sets now are even worse than 2 tins, 1 on each end of a piece of string. There are several reasons for the bad audio quality, the most obvious being that Television sets these days are getting to the point of being as thick as a piece of cardboard thus good sound would really be defying the laws of physics. On 10 May 2014, at 8:22 am, Walter Ramage w...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Hi Tom. It is like most things in life, you get what you pay for. If a soundbar at $150 improves the sound quality from your TV then I guess it is worthit. each person must decide what they can afford and act accordingly. If you have your hi-fi in your living room where you have the TV then feeding the TV through the Hi-fi will greatly improve the sound quality. I think it should be noted here that Soundbars are designed to give a particular cinematic sound and in my opinion if it is for listening to music seriously then a good hi-fi is the better option. If though it is to use with your TV or DVD then a soundbar is a good investment. If you are going to spend a lot of money then you would be wise to audition the soundbar first by visiting a reputable dealer. There are soundbars to suit every pocket the sound quality will generally match the price. Walter. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 09 May 2014 22:59 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Soundbars Oh my goodness! While this sounds like a nice-sounding piece, the price tag is a little high (I hve been thinking of doing something to improve the sound for the television in the living room! I've heard of these soundbars before, but have never heard or seen one! Is there one that would do the job that doesn't have quite the price tag as this one you have described? Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Walter Ramage Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:35 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Soundbars Hi Dane. I would recommend strongly the Bose
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hi, It must be an old one. 'Cause my Sony has a bunch of these on the side. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Gary Wood Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 10:07 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars And I also need to get a new TV, because my Sony has only one HDMI input, and I need more, so I can use my Apple TV, and my cable. - Original Message - From: Mike Thomas wheelt...@centurylink.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars Hi Howard, Older televisions typically had enough speaker enclosure and did not require something like a sound bar. The newer flat screen models are the ones we speak of, and most if not all have multiple modes of input and output, making it a simple matter of plugging in a stereo cable or HDMI cable and making the connection. Mike - Original Message - From: Howard Traxler how...@traxlerenterprises.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 6:57 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars How does one get the audio from the TV into any other device. My TV (a probably 25-year-old Zenith) has inputs for left, right, and video. It has no outputs at all. All you get is the little internal speakers that are (maybe) 24 inches apart. I also have another set (off brand) that I bought about 14 years ago to catch girls. It has no connections, in or out. Howard - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:10 AM Subject: RE: Soundbars Why yes music does sound epic on a surround sound system. That's one of the things I did when testing the Bose Lifestyle V35. I played music on it. It's cool how since it splits the audio among the 5 speakers, you get a lot more detail. I played Tik Tok on it. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars With the surround sound I have,, and I also listen to music on it, as well as watching TV. I also think that music sounds great on it. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars I agree with pretty much everything that Walter has written below, Soundbars are a very convenient option, to illustrate the point let's take my situation where I'm using a room with a small TV, I have a surround-sound system in the lounge but don't want that in my Den, I just want something I can use with my Television. Using a Soundbar would mean very little set-up on my part to enjoy the experience of Surround-Sound in a movie or from Channels on my Set Top Box etc, no need to set-up individual speakers as I did in the lounge and so on. It should be noted that - whatever system you used with your Television these days - would improve the sound quality of your TV, the speakers in those TV sets now are even worse than 2 tins, 1 on each end of a piece of string. There are several reasons for the bad audio quality, the most obvious being that Television sets these days are getting to the point of being as thick as a piece of cardboard thus good sound would really be defying the laws of physics. On 10 May 2014, at 8:22 am, Walter Ramage w...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Hi Tom. It is like most things in life, you get what you pay for. If a soundbar at $150 improves the sound quality from your TV then I guess it is worthit. each person must decide what they can afford and act accordingly. If you have your hi-fi in your living room where you have the TV then feeding the TV through the Hi-fi will greatly improve the sound quality. I think it should be noted here that Soundbars are designed to give a particular cinematic sound and in my opinion if it is for listening to music seriously then a good hi-fi is the better option. If though it is to use with your TV or DVD then a soundbar is a good investment. If you are going to spend a lot of money then you would be wise to audition the soundbar first by visiting a reputable dealer. There are soundbars to suit every pocket the sound quality will generally match the price. Walter. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 09 May 2014 22:59 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Soundbars Oh my goodness! While this sounds like a nice-sounding piece, the price tag is a little high (I hve been thinking of doing something to improve the sound for the television in the living room! I've heard of these soundbars before, but have never heard or seen one! Is there one that would do the job that doesn't have quite the price tag as this one you have described? Tom Kaufman -Original
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Hi! I've managed to get a trial of a Bose Solo TV system for 90 days so I'll write about it on list during that time no doubt smile. The system is not the one that stimulated the discussion, its a cheaper version but it may well do justice to my TV in the Den. I've linked to the owners manual so people can have a read to find out what this system offers, its not equipped with a breath taking collection of bells and whistles, this fact appeals to me as I want something that's simple to operate, hopeful the issue of good quality sound from this unit will be as simple as its operation and - knowing Bose products as I believe I do - I proudly own 3 of them - - then I have a feeling my hunch is right on the money, all will be revealed later this week I'm sure. Here's the manual https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10565527/owg_en_solo.pdf ** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
RE: Changing sound source when recording in Goldwave
Thanks Samuel, With Windows 7, there is no 'what You Hear option, so I'll just experiment until I find the right one. Thanks, Clive -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Samuel Wilkins Sent: 11 May 2014 08:17 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Changing sound source when recording in Goldwave Hello Clive, press F11 and go to devices. Tab until you get to recording and you should find a list of options including microphone, line-in and stereo mix or what you hear. Select that and press OK. Hope this helps. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Clive Lever Sent: 10 May 2014 19:16 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: Changing sound source when recording in Goldwave Hello all, I have goldwave 5.58. My personal default setting has been to record only from the line in to my PC, as I have been encoding loads of items from cassette to MP3. How do I change the setting to record from the PC, so that I can take the recording of an audio stream of a radio station on the internet? Then, how do I change back again? Thanks, Clive -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 10 May 2014 18:44 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Sound bars Hello Mike and list: That might be just the thing I would need as a lot of my TV watching is back here in the room where I keep most of my stuff...bud now and then (if I have my satellite dish in use to record something for later viewing) that's when I'll fire up the Sony in the living room; is then that I wish I had a little better sounding audio; not that it's completely terrible! But I wouldn't mind having it better if it's practical! Mike, what brand is your sound bar? Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:28 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound bars Hi Tom, Most certainly, a sound bar will help a whole lot.I have a 40 inch television and added a 37 inch sound bar. They offer enough internal enclosure to give it some of that rich depth the old set had. Remember to get as wide of a sound bar as your particular installation can allow for great stereo separation. Its a cheap alternative, and I only paid about $ 65 for the sound bar. It was very pleasing when it was set up and I've never regretted the purchase. Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:47 PM Subject: RE: Sound bars Hello Mike and list: Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I would have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the television sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned! It's a shame that you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that audio sound like not much better than a little portable set! Of course I think I know that the idea is; the idea is that the manufactures of these sets want you to go out and hook a stereo sound system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) would be simpler if they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then people wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment! I have my television back here in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo. But the Sony 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't really know that it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the TV out there...maybe one of those Soundbars would do some justice for it! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day. I don't go to the trouble of turning it on and off. It makes no noise, and only when the television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the sound bar and amplified. Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, they sound very tinny and cheap. The sound bar, even cheap ones help quite a bit. I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected to the television sound quality. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if the Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to the Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with your smart device. On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas wheelt...@centurylink.net wrote: Hi, I made the mistake you're making, and
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Why not buy an hdmi splitter? They're much less expensive than a new tv! - Original Message - From: Gary Wood k8...@att.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 3:07 AM Subject: Re: Soundbars And I also need to get a new TV, because my Sony has only one HDMI input, and I need more, so I can use my Apple TV, and my cable. - Original Message - From: Mike Thomas wheelt...@centurylink.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars Hi Howard, Older televisions typically had enough speaker enclosure and did not require something like a sound bar. The newer flat screen models are the ones we speak of, and most if not all have multiple modes of input and output, making it a simple matter of plugging in a stereo cable or HDMI cable and making the connection. Mike - Original Message - From: Howard Traxler how...@traxlerenterprises.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 6:57 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars How does one get the audio from the TV into any other device. My TV (a probably 25-year-old Zenith) has inputs for left, right, and video. It has no outputs at all. All you get is the little internal speakers that are (maybe) 24 inches apart. I also have another set (off brand) that I bought about 14 years ago to catch girls. It has no connections, in or out. Howard - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:10 AM Subject: RE: Soundbars Why yes music does sound epic on a surround sound system. That's one of the things I did when testing the Bose Lifestyle V35. I played music on it. It's cool how since it splits the audio among the 5 speakers, you get a lot more detail. I played Tik Tok on it. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars With the surround sound I have,, and I also listen to music on it, as well as watching TV. I also think that music sounds great on it. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars I agree with pretty much everything that Walter has written below, Soundbars are a very convenient option, to illustrate the point let's take my situation where I'm using a room with a small TV, I have a surround-sound system in the lounge but don't want that in my Den, I just want something I can use with my Television. Using a Soundbar would mean very little set-up on my part to enjoy the experience of Surround-Sound in a movie or from Channels on my Set Top Box etc, no need to set-up individual speakers as I did in the lounge and so on. It should be noted that - whatever system you used with your Television these days - would improve the sound quality of your TV, the speakers in those TV sets now are even worse than 2 tins, 1 on each end of a piece of string. There are several reasons for the bad audio quality, the most obvious being that Television sets these days are getting to the point of being as thick as a piece of cardboard thus good sound would really be defying the laws of physics. On 10 May 2014, at 8:22 am, Walter Ramage w...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Hi Tom. It is like most things in life, you get what you pay for. If a soundbar at $150 improves the sound quality from your TV then I guess it is worthit. each person must decide what they can afford and act accordingly. If you have your hi-fi in your living room where you have the TV then feeding the TV through the Hi-fi will greatly improve the sound quality. I think it should be noted here that Soundbars are designed to give a particular cinematic sound and in my opinion if it is for listening to music seriously then a good hi-fi is the better option. If though it is to use with your TV or DVD then a soundbar is a good investment. If you are going to spend a lot of money then you would be wise to audition the soundbar first by visiting a reputable dealer. There are soundbars to suit every pocket the sound quality will generally match the price. Walter. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 09 May 2014 22:59 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Soundbars Oh my goodness! While this sounds like a nice-sounding piece, the price tag is a little high (I hve been thinking of doing something to improve the sound for the television in the living room! I've heard of these soundbars before, but have never heard or seen one! Is there one that would do the job that doesn't have quite the price tag as this one you have described? Tom
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Ah but the system you are talking about was a real surround sound system. There were 5 speaekrs around your head, each one has an audio track assigned to it thus you got a true surround sound feel. These things are SRS. Fake simulated surround sound. Stretched stereo. I'd love a life style system or one like the one you are talking about. My brother-in-law has one. Epic! -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 4:00 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound bars This sounds like it makes sense. Bose used to have an Accoustomass system that I heard a demonstration of in a store. The sppeakers seemed close together, and I didn't see how it could sound that way, but in the de4mo, it seems like I did hear things behind me and everywhere, it seems. - Original Message - From: pete gurney p...@gurneyfamily.org.uk To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:48 AM Subject: Re: Sound bars hello all, i'm a bit late coming in on this but if you get a really good sound bar it can be as good as a wired surround sound system. i have both a sound bar in the front room and a wired surround system in the dining room they are both made by yamaha and the soundbar sounds every bit as good as the wired system including you hearing everything around and behind you. the soundbar i have is model yamaha ysp40d. admittedly the normal price of this was £1500 or roughly $2500 but i got it when it was being replaced with a newer model so got it for £500 roughly $830 but it is a very impressive bit of equipment. it is about 40 inches long and has 42 individual speakers in it which fire off the sound in all different directions. when you set it up you plug a microphone in to it on a long lead and place it level with the centre of the tv screen and 6 to 8 feet away then tell it to auto setup and go out of the room and close the door. from outside it sounds like something from the movie close encounter of the third kind as you can hear all these odd sounds being bounced off of every surface in the room. when it's finished it has programmed all the speakers to give off their sound fractions of seconds apart bouncing the sound off of the walls, ceiling, and furniture to give you a full surround effect. when it sets itself up it can even tell weather you have soft furnishing and carpets in the room and takes this into account. it also has a mass of different connections which means you could have 10 or 12 pieces of equipment all connected to it at the same time. i prefer this sound bar to the wired systems as obviously it's neater and you don't need to run wires everywhere, but i do think you need to get a sound bar that has this type of auto setup with multi speakers in it. i've seen several over the last 5 years since i got mine that have this capability but not with as many speakers but they have also been at a much more reasonable price. pete.
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Well, somewhat of a surround experience. To get a true one, sadly you will need all 5 or 7 speakers around your head. If you want it like the movie theater which I do. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 3:45 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound bars I've never heard one, but I thought in a post that someone said that he got that surround experience. - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:07 AM Subject: RE: Sound bars I'll stick to a true surround sound system thanks. I understand the fact that sound bars are way better then TV speakers, and hell yeah they are. But there are 8 channals in a 7.1 Blu-Ray movie, and each one has a set of sounds. To hear them all you need a true system. Thing is sometimes people try to sell them to you as if you are getting the full movie experience. Not so. At the movies you have all 6 speakers if 5.1, or 8 if 7.1. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound bars But I would rather hear it from a soundbar, or like I have it, with my surround sound and speakers. Maybe I'll have to check those soundbars out somewhere. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 7:47 PM Subject: RE: Sound bars Hello Mike and list: Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I would have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the television sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned! It's a shame that you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that audio sound like not much better than a little portable set! Of course I think I know that the idea is; the idea is that the manufactures of these sets want you to go out and hook a stereo sound system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) would be simpler if they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then people wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment! I have my television back here in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo. But the Sony 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't really know that it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the TV out there...maybe one of those Soundbars would do some justice for it! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day. I don't go to the trouble of turning it on and off. It makes no noise, and only when the television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the sound bar and amplified. Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, they sound very tinny and cheap. The sound bar, even cheap ones help quite a bit. I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected to the television sound quality. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if the Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to the Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with your smart device. On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas wheelt...@centurylink.net wrote: Hi, I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a sound bar on top of a flat screen television. Not quite so. The one I purchased is about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder. Meaning it is the size in length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat bottom surface. What happened with mine is it improved the television sound quality immensely, but the television had to sit behind the sound bar, and needed to be raised just a little so the television could see the remote signal. I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off. It makes no other sound and just sits in an idle mode. I do have a blueTooth model, so I can put it that mode and play something from my tablet or iphone with it. Hope this helps, Mike - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:58 PM Subject: Soundbars Hi! Does anyone have one of these? I've not seen one before so perhaps someone could give a
getting audio information with jaws
I'm running the latest version of jaws on my computer with windows 7 home premium. When I use winsows explorerand arrow down through my files list, when I ladn on an audio file such as an mp3 or a wav file, I don't get any data about the file sizeor duration. Is there any setting I can change in windows 7 or jaws to give me this information?
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Tim: If I'm thinking correctly, if you highlight the file in question; then go to the view menu, you should find things there that will help you get the info you're looking for; there are choices like choose details and things like that! Hopefully I'm on the right page here! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim cumings Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:07 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: getting audio information with jaws I'm running the latest version of jaws on my computer with windows 7 home premium. When I use winsows explorerand arrow down through my files list, when I ladn on an audio file such as an mp3 or a wav file, I don't get any data about the file sizeor duration. Is there any setting I can change in windows 7 or jaws to give me this information?
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Tom i tried this but id didn't seem to make any difference. On 5/11/2014 12:10 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: Tim: If I'm thinking correctly, if you highlight the file in question; then go to the view menu, you should find things there that will help you get the info you're looking for; there are choices like choose details and things like that! Hopefully I'm on the right page here! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim cumings Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:07 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: getting audio information with jaws I'm running the latest version of jaws on my computer with windows 7 home premium. When I use winsows explorerand arrow down through my files list, when I ladn on an audio file such as an mp3 or a wav file, I don't get any data about the file sizeor duration. Is there any setting I can change in windows 7 or jaws to give me this information?
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Okay...so after you had checked the details you wanted (just asking the obvious here) you hit oOK? Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim cumings Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:16 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: getting audio information with jaws Tom i tried this but id didn't seem to make any difference. On 5/11/2014 12:10 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: Tim: If I'm thinking correctly, if you highlight the file in question; then go to the view menu, you should find things there that will help you get the info you're looking for; there are choices like choose details and things like that! Hopefully I'm on the right page here! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim cumings Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:07 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: getting audio information with jaws I'm running the latest version of jaws on my computer with windows 7 home premium. When I use winsows explorerand arrow down through my files list, when I ladn on an audio file such as an mp3 or a wav file, I don't get any data about the file sizeor duration. Is there any setting I can change in windows 7 or jaws to give me this information?
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Tim, Go to Windows Explorer with windows key+e. then press alt-v for view and arrow down through your options. One of them is details, and it needs to be checked. That should give you the information you need. When on a file name, press the say line (JAWS key+8) to hear all the file details. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim cumings Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:07 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: getting audio information with jaws I'm running the latest version of jaws on my computer with windows 7 home premium. When I use winsows explorerand arrow down through my files list, when I ladn on an audio file such as an mp3 or a wav file, I don't get any data about the file sizeor duration. Is there any setting I can change in windows 7 or jaws to give me this information?
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Yeah...that's kind of the same direction I was taking him! But in that view menu, once you've checked details then there's another thing that says choose details you then have to check the things you want that are in that list; then tab to okay! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:24 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws Tim, Go to Windows Explorer with windows key+e. then press alt-v for view and arrow down through your options. One of them is details, and it needs to be checked. That should give you the information you need. When on a file name, press the say line (JAWS key+8) to hear all the file details. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim cumings Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:07 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: getting audio information with jaws I'm running the latest version of jaws on my computer with windows 7 home premium. When I use winsows explorerand arrow down through my files list, when I ladn on an audio file such as an mp3 or a wav file, I don't get any data about the file sizeor duration. Is there any setting I can change in windows 7 or jaws to give me this information?
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hi, it is the way the folder has been setup. in propperties for the folder itself there is a tab where you can set what file types to optimise for. choose generel items then you'll always see such info. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:10 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws Tim: If I'm thinking correctly, if you highlight the file in question; then go to the view menu, you should find things there that will help you get the info you're looking for; there are choices like choose details and things like that! Hopefully I'm on the right page here! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim cumings Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:07 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: getting audio information with jaws I'm running the latest version of jaws on my computer with windows 7 home premium. When I use winsows explorerand arrow down through my files list, when I ladn on an audio file such as an mp3 or a wav file, I don't get any data about the file sizeor duration. Is there any setting I can change in windows 7 or jaws to give me this information?
RE: getting audio information with jaws
Hmmm! Must be doing something wrong, for when I try to go to properties...it says unavailable! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:27 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: getting audio information with jaws hi, it is the way the folder has been setup. in propperties for the folder itself there is a tab where you can set what file types to optimise for. choose generel items then you'll always see such info. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:10 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws Tim: If I'm thinking correctly, if you highlight the file in question; then go to the view menu, you should find things there that will help you get the info you're looking for; there are choices like choose details and things like that! Hopefully I'm on the right page here! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim cumings Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:07 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: getting audio information with jaws I'm running the latest version of jaws on my computer with windows 7 home premium. When I use winsows explorerand arrow down through my files list, when I ladn on an audio file such as an mp3 or a wav file, I don't get any data about the file sizeor duration. Is there any setting I can change in windows 7 or jaws to give me this information?
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hi, sounds like you open a folder from the desktop, which often just is a shortcut not a physical file folder. find it via my computer, and so on. -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:32 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws Hmmm! Must be doing something wrong, for when I try to go to properties...it says unavailable! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:27 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: getting audio information with jaws hi, it is the way the folder has been setup. in propperties for the folder itself there is a tab where you can set what file types to optimise for. choose generel items then you'll always see such info. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:10 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws Tim: If I'm thinking correctly, if you highlight the file in question; then go to the view menu, you should find things there that will help you get the info you're looking for; there are choices like choose details and things like that! Hopefully I'm on the right page here! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim cumings Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:07 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: getting audio information with jaws I'm running the latest version of jaws on my computer with windows 7 home premium. When I use winsows explorerand arrow down through my files list, when I ladn on an audio file such as an mp3 or a wav file, I don't get any data about the file sizeor duration. Is there any setting I can change in windows 7 or jaws to give me this information?
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Oh...okay; I wondered if it wwas something like that! Thanks for the info! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: getting audio information with jaws hi, sounds like you open a folder from the desktop, which often just is a shortcut not a physical file folder. find it via my computer, and so on. -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:32 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws Hmmm! Must be doing something wrong, for when I try to go to properties...it says unavailable! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:27 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: getting audio information with jaws hi, it is the way the folder has been setup. in propperties for the folder itself there is a tab where you can set what file types to optimise for. choose generel items then you'll always see such info. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:10 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws Tim: If I'm thinking correctly, if you highlight the file in question; then go to the view menu, you should find things there that will help you get the info you're looking for; there are choices like choose details and things like that! Hopefully I'm on the right page here! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim cumings Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:07 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: getting audio information with jaws I'm running the latest version of jaws on my computer with windows 7 home premium. When I use winsows explorerand arrow down through my files list, when I ladn on an audio file such as an mp3 or a wav file, I don't get any data about the file sizeor duration. Is there any setting I can change in windows 7 or jaws to give me this information?
RE: getting audio information with jaws
No soap; I went to computer then to the K drive (that houses most of my music; then went to the my music folder; same results (properties still says unavailable! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: getting audio information with jaws hi, sounds like you open a folder from the desktop, which often just is a shortcut not a physical file folder. find it via my computer, and so on. -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:32 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws Hmmm! Must be doing something wrong, for when I try to go to properties...it says unavailable! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:27 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: getting audio information with jaws hi, it is the way the folder has been setup. in propperties for the folder itself there is a tab where you can set what file types to optimise for. choose generel items then you'll always see such info. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:10 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws Tim: If I'm thinking correctly, if you highlight the file in question; then go to the view menu, you should find things there that will help you get the info you're looking for; there are choices like choose details and things like that! Hopefully I'm on the right page here! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim cumings Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:07 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: getting audio information with jaws I'm running the latest version of jaws on my computer with windows 7 home premium. When I use winsows explorerand arrow down through my files list, when I ladn on an audio file such as an mp3 or a wav file, I don't get any data about the file sizeor duration. Is there any setting I can change in windows 7 or jaws to give me this information?
Re: getting audio information with jaws
hi dont open the folder. stand on it. press left alt and enter. -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:41 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws No soap; I went to computer then to the K drive (that houses most of my music; then went to the my music folder; same results (properties still says unavailable! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: getting audio information with jaws hi, sounds like you open a folder from the desktop, which often just is a shortcut not a physical file folder. find it via my computer, and so on. -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:32 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws Hmmm! Must be doing something wrong, for when I try to go to properties...it says unavailable! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:27 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: getting audio information with jaws hi, it is the way the folder has been setup. in propperties for the folder itself there is a tab where you can set what file types to optimise for. choose generel items then you'll always see such info. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:10 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws Tim: If I'm thinking correctly, if you highlight the file in question; then go to the view menu, you should find things there that will help you get the info you're looking for; there are choices like choose details and things like that! Hopefully I'm on the right page here! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim cumings Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:07 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: getting audio information with jaws I'm running the latest version of jaws on my computer with windows 7 home premium. When I use winsows explorerand arrow down through my files list, when I ladn on an audio file such as an mp3 or a wav file, I don't get any data about the file sizeor duration. Is there any setting I can change in windows 7 or jaws to give me this information?
Re: getting audio information with jaws
yes On 5/11/2014 12:21 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: Okay...so after you had checked the details you wanted (just asking the obvious here) you hit oOK? Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim cumings Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:16 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: getting audio information with jaws Tom i tried this but id didn't seem to make any difference. On 5/11/2014 12:10 PM, Tom Kaufman wrote: Tim: If I'm thinking correctly, if you highlight the file in question; then go to the view menu, you should find things there that will help you get the info you're looking for; there are choices like choose details and things like that! Hopefully I'm on the right page here! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim cumings Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:07 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: getting audio information with jaws I'm running the latest version of jaws on my computer with windows 7 home premium. When I use winsows explorerand arrow down through my files list, when I ladn on an audio file such as an mp3 or a wav file, I don't get any data about the file sizeor duration. Is there any setting I can change in windows 7 or jaws to give me this information?
RE: getting audio information with jaws
Okay I guess I'm just missing something here; I still see no such thing as general information! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:44 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: getting audio information with jaws hi dont open the folder. stand on it. press left alt and enter. -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:41 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws No soap; I went to computer then to the K drive (that houses most of my music; then went to the my music folder; same results (properties still says unavailable! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: getting audio information with jaws hi, sounds like you open a folder from the desktop, which often just is a shortcut not a physical file folder. find it via my computer, and so on. -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:32 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws Hmmm! Must be doing something wrong, for when I try to go to properties...it says unavailable! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:27 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: getting audio information with jaws hi, it is the way the folder has been setup. in propperties for the folder itself there is a tab where you can set what file types to optimise for. choose generel items then you'll always see such info. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:10 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws Tim: If I'm thinking correctly, if you highlight the file in question; then go to the view menu, you should find things there that will help you get the info you're looking for; there are choices like choose details and things like that! Hopefully I'm on the right page here! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim cumings Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:07 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: getting audio information with jaws I'm running the latest version of jaws on my computer with windows 7 home premium. When I use winsows explorerand arrow down through my files list, when I ladn on an audio file such as an mp3 or a wav file, I don't get any data about the file sizeor duration. Is there any setting I can change in windows 7 or jaws to give me this information?
Re: getting audio information with jaws
you're running windows7? it's a tab which you come to by pressing control tab. I think it's the fourth. here you select the view of the folder and what files it will be optimized for. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 7:06 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws Okay I guess I'm just missing something here; I still see no such thing as general information! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:44 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: getting audio information with jaws hi dont open the folder. stand on it. press left alt and enter. -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:41 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws No soap; I went to computer then to the K drive (that houses most of my music; then went to the my music folder; same results (properties still says unavailable! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: getting audio information with jaws hi, sounds like you open a folder from the desktop, which often just is a shortcut not a physical file folder. find it via my computer, and so on. -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:32 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws Hmmm! Must be doing something wrong, for when I try to go to properties...it says unavailable! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:27 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: getting audio information with jaws hi, it is the way the folder has been setup. in propperties for the folder itself there is a tab where you can set what file types to optimise for. choose generel items then you'll always see such info. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:10 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws Tim: If I'm thinking correctly, if you highlight the file in question; then go to the view menu, you should find things there that will help you get the info you're looking for; there are choices like choose details and things like that! Hopefully I'm on the right page here! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim cumings Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:07 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: getting audio information with jaws I'm running the latest version of jaws on my computer with windows 7 home premium. When I use winsows explorerand arrow down through my files list, when I ladn on an audio file such as an mp3 or a wav file, I don't get any data about the file sizeor duration. Is there any setting I can change in windows 7 or jaws to give me this information?
Re: getting audio information with jaws
I think you want to enable tooltips in the treeview in the view folders tab under folder toptions, but you will get info for all files, not just audio ones. Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk wrote: hi dont open the folder. stand on it. press left alt and enter. -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:41 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws No soap; I went to computer then to the K drive (that houses most of my music; then went to the my music folder; same results (properties still says unavailable! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: getting audio information with jaws hi, sounds like you open a folder from the desktop, which often just is a shortcut not a physical file folder. find it via my computer, and so on. -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:32 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws Hmmm! Must be doing something wrong, for when I try to go to properties...it says unavailable! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:27 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: getting audio information with jaws hi, it is the way the folder has been setup. in propperties for the folder itself there is a tab where you can set what file types to optimise for. choose generel items then you'll always see such info. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:10 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws Tim: If I'm thinking correctly, if you highlight the file in question; then go to the view menu, you should find things there that will help you get the info you're looking for; there are choices like choose details and things like that! Hopefully I'm on the right page here! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim cumings Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:07 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: getting audio information with jaws I'm running the latest version of jaws on my computer with windows 7 home premium. When I use winsows explorerand arrow down through my files list, when I ladn on an audio file such as an mp3 or a wav file, I don't get any data about the file sizeor duration. Is there any setting I can change in windows 7 or jaws to give me this information? -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
RE: getting audio information with jaws
Yup; am running Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium; will give it a try! Tom -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 1:09 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: getting audio information with jaws you're running windows7? it's a tab which you come to by pressing control tab. I think it's the fourth. here you select the view of the folder and what files it will be optimized for. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 7:06 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws Okay I guess I'm just missing something here; I still see no such thing as general information! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:44 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: getting audio information with jaws hi dont open the folder. stand on it. press left alt and enter. -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:41 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws No soap; I went to computer then to the K drive (that houses most of my music; then went to the my music folder; same results (properties still says unavailable! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:35 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: getting audio information with jaws hi, sounds like you open a folder from the desktop, which often just is a shortcut not a physical file folder. find it via my computer, and so on. -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:32 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws Hmmm! Must be doing something wrong, for when I try to go to properties...it says unavailable! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:27 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: getting audio information with jaws hi, it is the way the folder has been setup. in propperties for the folder itself there is a tab where you can set what file types to optimise for. choose generel items then you'll always see such info. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Tom Kaufman Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 6:10 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: getting audio information with jaws Tim: If I'm thinking correctly, if you highlight the file in question; then go to the view menu, you should find things there that will help you get the info you're looking for; there are choices like choose details and things like that! Hopefully I'm on the right page here! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of tim cumings Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 12:07 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: getting audio information with jaws I'm running the latest version of jaws on my computer with windows 7 home premium. When I use winsows explorerand arrow down through my files list, when I ladn on an audio file such as an mp3 or a wav file, I don't get any data about the file sizeor duration. Is there any setting I can change in windows 7 or jaws to give me this information?
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Re: getting audio information with jaws
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RE: Changing sound source when recording in Goldwave
Ah, you need to go into sound in the control panel, control tab to recording, and in the list of devices, press the context menu key and check the show disabled devices. Hope this helps. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Clive Lever Sent: 11 May 2014 13:58 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Changing sound source when recording in Goldwave Thanks Samuel, With Windows 7, there is no 'what You Hear option, so I'll just experiment until I find the right one. Thanks, Clive -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Samuel Wilkins Sent: 11 May 2014 08:17 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Changing sound source when recording in Goldwave Hello Clive, press F11 and go to devices. Tab until you get to recording and you should find a list of options including microphone, line-in and stereo mix or what you hear. Select that and press OK. Hope this helps. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Clive Lever Sent: 10 May 2014 19:16 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: Changing sound source when recording in Goldwave Hello all, I have goldwave 5.58. My personal default setting has been to record only from the line in to my PC, as I have been encoding loads of items from cassette to MP3. How do I change the setting to record from the PC, so that I can take the recording of an audio stream of a radio station on the internet? Then, how do I change back again? Thanks, Clive -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 10 May 2014 18:44 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Sound bars Hello Mike and list: That might be just the thing I would need as a lot of my TV watching is back here in the room where I keep most of my stuff...bud now and then (if I have my satellite dish in use to record something for later viewing) that's when I'll fire up the Sony in the living room; is then that I wish I had a little better sounding audio; not that it's completely terrible! But I wouldn't mind having it better if it's practical! Mike, what brand is your sound bar? Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:28 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound bars Hi Tom, Most certainly, a sound bar will help a whole lot.I have a 40 inch television and added a 37 inch sound bar. They offer enough internal enclosure to give it some of that rich depth the old set had. Remember to get as wide of a sound bar as your particular installation can allow for great stereo separation. Its a cheap alternative, and I only paid about $ 65 for the sound bar. It was very pleasing when it was set up and I've never regretted the purchase. Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:47 PM Subject: RE: Sound bars Hello Mike and list: Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I would have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the television sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned! It's a shame that you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that audio sound like not much better than a little portable set! Of course I think I know that the idea is; the idea is that the manufactures of these sets want you to go out and hook a stereo sound system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) would be simpler if they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then people wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment! I have my television back here in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo. But the Sony 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't really know that it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the TV out there...maybe one of those Soundbars would do some justice for it! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day. I don't go to the trouble of turning it on and off. It makes no noise, and only when the television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the sound bar and amplified. Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, they sound very tinny and cheap. The sound bar, even cheap ones help quite a bit. I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected to the television sound quality. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Re: Soundbars
Thanks. - Original Message - From: Brian Olesen br...@blindkom.dk To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 3:09 AM Subject: Re: Soundbars hi, It must be an old one. 'Cause my Sony has a bunch of these on the side. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- From: Gary Wood Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 10:07 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars And I also need to get a new TV, because my Sony has only one HDMI input, and I need more, so I can use my Apple TV, and my cable. - Original Message - From: Mike Thomas wheelt...@centurylink.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars Hi Howard, Older televisions typically had enough speaker enclosure and did not require something like a sound bar. The newer flat screen models are the ones we speak of, and most if not all have multiple modes of input and output, making it a simple matter of plugging in a stereo cable or HDMI cable and making the connection. Mike - Original Message - From: Howard Traxler how...@traxlerenterprises.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 6:57 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars How does one get the audio from the TV into any other device. My TV (a probably 25-year-old Zenith) has inputs for left, right, and video. It has no outputs at all. All you get is the little internal speakers that are (maybe) 24 inches apart. I also have another set (off brand) that I bought about 14 years ago to catch girls. It has no connections, in or out. Howard - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:10 AM Subject: RE: Soundbars Why yes music does sound epic on a surround sound system. That's one of the things I did when testing the Bose Lifestyle V35. I played music on it. It's cool how since it splits the audio among the 5 speakers, you get a lot more detail. I played Tik Tok on it. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:31 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars With the surround sound I have,, and I also listen to music on it, as well as watching TV. I also think that music sounds great on it. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars I agree with pretty much everything that Walter has written below, Soundbars are a very convenient option, to illustrate the point let's take my situation where I'm using a room with a small TV, I have a surround-sound system in the lounge but don't want that in my Den, I just want something I can use with my Television. Using a Soundbar would mean very little set-up on my part to enjoy the experience of Surround-Sound in a movie or from Channels on my Set Top Box etc, no need to set-up individual speakers as I did in the lounge and so on. It should be noted that - whatever system you used with your Television these days - would improve the sound quality of your TV, the speakers in those TV sets now are even worse than 2 tins, 1 on each end of a piece of string. There are several reasons for the bad audio quality, the most obvious being that Television sets these days are getting to the point of being as thick as a piece of cardboard thus good sound would really be defying the laws of physics. On 10 May 2014, at 8:22 am, Walter Ramage w...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Hi Tom. It is like most things in life, you get what you pay for. If a soundbar at $150 improves the sound quality from your TV then I guess it is worthit. each person must decide what they can afford and act accordingly. If you have your hi-fi in your living room where you have the TV then feeding the TV through the Hi-fi will greatly improve the sound quality. I think it should be noted here that Soundbars are designed to give a particular cinematic sound and in my opinion if it is for listening to music seriously then a good hi-fi is the better option. If though it is to use with your TV or DVD then a soundbar is a good investment. If you are going to spend a lot of money then you would be wise to audition the soundbar first by visiting a reputable dealer. There are soundbars to suit every pocket the sound quality will generally match the price. Walter. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 09 May 2014 22:59 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Soundbars Oh my goodness! While this sounds like a nice-sounding piece, the price tag is a little high (I hve been thinking of doing something to improve the sound for the television in the living room! I've heard of these
Re: Sound bars
Would be nice. - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 9:54 AM Subject: RE: Sound bars Well, somewhat of a surround experience. To get a true one, sadly you will need all 5 or 7 speakers around your head. If you want it like the movie theater which I do. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2014 3:45 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound bars I've never heard one, but I thought in a post that someone said that he got that surround experience. - Original Message - From: Hamit Campos hamitcam...@gmail.com To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 7:07 AM Subject: RE: Sound bars I'll stick to a true surround sound system thanks. I understand the fact that sound bars are way better then TV speakers, and hell yeah they are. But there are 8 channals in a 7.1 Blu-Ray movie, and each one has a set of sounds. To hear them all you need a true system. Thing is sometimes people try to sell them to you as if you are getting the full movie experience. Not so. At the movies you have all 6 speakers if 5.1, or 8 if 7.1. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 4:38 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound bars But I would rather hear it from a soundbar, or like I have it, with my surround sound and speakers. Maybe I'll have to check those soundbars out somewhere. - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 7:47 PM Subject: RE: Sound bars Hello Mike and list: Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I would have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the television sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned! It's a shame that you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that audio sound like not much better than a little portable set! Of course I think I know that the idea is; the idea is that the manufactures of these sets want you to go out and hook a stereo sound system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) would be simpler if they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then people wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment! I have my television back here in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo. But the Sony 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't really know that it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the TV out there...maybe one of those Soundbars would do some justice for it! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day. I don't go to the trouble of turning it on and off. It makes no noise, and only when the television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the sound bar and amplified. Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably could be made to sound better, but without any depth for an enclosure, they sound very tinny and cheap. The sound bar, even cheap ones help quite a bit. I'm not an audiophile by any means, but even I objected to the television sound quality. - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:39 PM Subject: Re: Soundbars I'm sure I'm miss-understanding something somewhere in your post, if the Television's turned off then how do you get the sound from it to the Soundbar or don't you bother, do you just use the Soundbar with your smart device. On 10 May 2014, at 8:36 am, Mike Thomas wheelt...@centurylink.net wrote: Hi, I made the mistake you're making, and thought I could sit a sound bar on top of a flat screen television. Not quite so. The one I purchased is about the shape of a distorted closed cylinder. Meaning it is the size in length that you purchase, and perhaps somewhat oval with a flat bottom surface. What happened with mine is it improved the television sound quality immensely, but the television had to sit behind the sound bar, and needed to be raised just a little so the television could see the remote signal. I leave mine on all the time, and just turn the television off. It makes no other sound and just sits in an idle mode. I do have a blueTooth model, so I can put it that mode and play something from my tablet or iphone with it. Hope this helps, Mike - Original Message - From: Dane Trethowan grtd...@internode.on.net To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 4:58 PM Subject: Soundbars Hi!
RE: Changing sound source when recording in Goldwave
Thanks Samuel, I've sorted it now. In Windows 7, as another respondent said, it's loop back rather than 'what you hear'. Best, Clive -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Samuel Wilkins Sent: 11 May 2014 20:46 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Changing sound source when recording in Goldwave Ah, you need to go into sound in the control panel, control tab to recording, and in the list of devices, press the context menu key and check the show disabled devices. Hope this helps. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Clive Lever Sent: 11 May 2014 13:58 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Changing sound source when recording in Goldwave Thanks Samuel, With Windows 7, there is no 'what You Hear option, so I'll just experiment until I find the right one. Thanks, Clive -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Samuel Wilkins Sent: 11 May 2014 08:17 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Changing sound source when recording in Goldwave Hello Clive, press F11 and go to devices. Tab until you get to recording and you should find a list of options including microphone, line-in and stereo mix or what you hear. Select that and press OK. Hope this helps. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Clive Lever Sent: 10 May 2014 19:16 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: Changing sound source when recording in Goldwave Hello all, I have goldwave 5.58. My personal default setting has been to record only from the line in to my PC, as I have been encoding loads of items from cassette to MP3. How do I change the setting to record from the PC, so that I can take the recording of an audio stream of a radio station on the internet? Then, how do I change back again? Thanks, Clive -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Tom Kaufman Sent: 10 May 2014 18:44 To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Sound bars Hello Mike and list: That might be just the thing I would need as a lot of my TV watching is back here in the room where I keep most of my stuff...bud now and then (if I have my satellite dish in use to record something for later viewing) that's when I'll fire up the Sony in the living room; is then that I wish I had a little better sounding audio; not that it's completely terrible! But I wouldn't mind having it better if it's practical! Mike, what brand is your sound bar? Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2014 9:28 AM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Sound bars Hi Tom, Most certainly, a sound bar will help a whole lot.I have a 40 inch television and added a 37 inch sound bar. They offer enough internal enclosure to give it some of that rich depth the old set had. Remember to get as wide of a sound bar as your particular installation can allow for great stereo separation. Its a cheap alternative, and I only paid about $ 65 for the sound bar. It was very pleasing when it was set up and I've never regretted the purchase. Mike - Original Message - From: Tom Kaufman tomca...@comcast.net To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:47 PM Subject: RE: Sound bars Hello Mike and list: Although I've not heard or seen the Soundbar, I would have to say that most anything is an improvement over what the television sets themselves supply you as far as audio is concerned! It's a shame that you can get a great big 41-inch set...and have that audio sound like not much better than a little portable set! Of course I think I know that the idea is; the idea is that the manufactures of these sets want you to go out and hook a stereo sound system (maybe Dolby (or whatever it's called) would be simpler if they'd just go ahead and make the sets sound good; then people wouldn't have to go and buy extra equipment! I have my television back here in the room where I stay a lot going through my stereo. But the Sony 41-inch set currently isn't hooked to anything; I don't really know that it'd be practical to buy a stereo system just for the TV out there...maybe one of those Soundbars would do some justice for it! Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mike Thomas Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 6:50 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Soundbars The soundbar sits there in the on position 24 hours a day. I don't go to the trouble of turning it on and off. It makes no noise, and only when the television is turned on is an audio signal passed to the sound bar and amplified. Those little speakers inside a flat panel television probably could
