Re: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced
Thanks for posting that article, Tim. I just have a couple of comments on it. Somebody on another list I am on pointed out that the Samsung S7 and S7 active have that waterproof speck of 68 IPS is it 68, not 67. They have a headphone jack, and their spec is actually better than the new iPhone in that respect. Since they are actually really waterproof up to the standard that the watch is, rather than the less stringent standards that the new iPhone 7 meets. The other thing is about the AirPods. These things cost 160 bucks. And they're not held into your ears buy anything. For instance, I have a Bluetooth earpiece from Plantronics, the voyager legend. It has kind of a clip thing that goes behind your ear. It's not going anywhere. It's not going to drop out of your ear. I can just imagine how many people are going to lose an air pot along the way and not realize it. At $160 a pop, that is going to elicit a lot of irritation rather quickly I think. I suspect there will be a third-party solutions for people who really feel they need to have both the ability to listen to headphones and charge their phone at the same time and who don't want to go wireless with stereo phones. These AirPods, they sound great. But they don't seem practical, because I think they will be far far too easy to inadvertently drop out of your ear. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 7, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Tim Noonan wrote: > > The Airpots are still using Bluetooth, but wrapped in all sorts of Apple > secret sauce. > > Probably some aspects from the now announced BT 5.0 spec. > > Here is a fuller description of the justification for removing the headphone > jack and the Airpod tech and design. > > Inside iPhone 7: Why Apple Killed The Headphone Jack - BuzzFeed News > https://t.co/TV2Kps3Mvz > > On 8 Sep 2016, at 9:15 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: > > Yeah not much was said but it sounds like they are more wireless than blue > tooth. They talked trach about blue tooth. I mean just to say that they > didn't seem keen to use it. So I guess it's some kind of wireless like > wireless headphones and keyboards use. Which for distance is much better. Leo > Laporte and Andy Anatco were pissed about the jack. They kept insisting that > they could have kept it. But that would mean the phone would have to be wider > at best. Right? AAlso I agree with Shiller time to cut the cord. Cords always > tangle especially the cheep spegetty cord like Apple themselves use for the > ear pods. Or you could axidentally step on them and break something like I've > done to my Bose OE2I head phone kable. Stuff like that. I agree it's not fare > for those that have bought mad expensive stuff that is corded but oh well se > la vi. At least they give ya an adaptor. > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 6:46 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced > > Indeed it has and no real surprises. > The headphones socket has gone to make way for another speaker - thus stereo > speakers which should dramatically improve the sound of the phone - and that > can only be a plus. > According to the blurb I read the iPhone comes with two very nice additions, > a lightning dock to 3.5MM headphones adapter and a set of Airbuds, > interesting to know whether these use AirPlay, Bluetooth or yet another > standard? I wasn’t presented with much information on them. > No mention of atpX unfortunately, at least we have the dock where we can plug > in DAC’s if better sound is what we’re after or we have AirPlay. > I’ll still be holding onto my iPhone 6 having spent a small fortune on the > Arcam DAC . > > ** > Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the > halfwits in this world behind. > > > > > > > Tim Noonan > Consultant Speaker Coach > > Phone: +61 419 779 669 > Email: t...@timnoonan.com.au > Skype: VoiceReadings > Twitter: twitter.com/TimNoonan > > Coaching & Consulting:www.timnoonan.com.au > Inspirational Speaking:www.visionarycommunications.com.au > Gemwater Bottles:www.timnoonan.com.au/water > Voice Readings:www.voicereadings.com > >
Re: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced
Airplay requires Wi-Fi. I found that out the hard way, when I tried to stream something to my airplay enabled stereo from my phone which was on LTE at the time, not Wi-Fi. No joy. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 7, 2016, at 5:58 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > Hmm, interesting. > I have seen AirPlay devices that are around which are in perfect sync with > Airplay - that is to say there’s no delay between source and target when > streaming - so I thought Apple may have perhaps used that method. > Then again AirPlay streaming does take a fair amount of power so perhaps > that’s why Apple chose Bluetooth. > >> On 8 Sep 2016, at 10:53 AM, Tim Noonan wrote: >> >> The Airpots are still using Bluetooth, but wrapped in all sorts of Apple >> secret sauce. >> >> Probably some aspects from the now announced BT 5.0 spec. >> >> Here is a fuller description of the justification for removing the headphone >> jack and the Airpod tech and design. >> >> Inside iPhone 7: Why Apple Killed The Headphone Jack - BuzzFeed News >> https://t.co/TV2Kps3Mvz >> >> On 8 Sep 2016, at 9:15 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: >> >> Yeah not much was said but it sounds like they are more wireless than blue >> tooth. They talked trach about blue tooth. I mean just to say that they >> didn't seem keen to use it. So I guess it's some kind of wireless like >> wireless headphones and keyboards use. Which for distance is much better. >> Leo Laporte and Andy Anatco were pissed about the jack. They kept insisting >> that they could have kept it. But that would mean the phone would have to be >> wider at best. Right? AAlso I agree with Shiller time to cut the cord. Cords >> always tangle especially the cheep spegetty cord like Apple themselves use >> for the ear pods. Or you could axidentally step on them and break something >> like I've done to my Bose OE2I head phone kable. Stuff like that. I agree >> it's not fare for those that have bought mad expensive stuff that is corded >> but oh well se la vi. At least they give ya an adaptor. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane >> Trethowan >> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 6:46 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced >> >> Indeed it has and no real surprises. >> The headphones socket has gone to make way for another speaker - thus stereo >> speakers which should dramatically improve the sound of the phone - and that >> can only be a plus. >> According to the blurb I read the iPhone comes with two very nice additions, >> a lightning dock to 3.5MM headphones adapter and a set of Airbuds, >> interesting to know whether these use AirPlay, Bluetooth or yet another >> standard? I wasn’t presented with much information on them. >> No mention of atpX unfortunately, at least we have the dock where we can >> plug in DAC’s if better sound is what we’re after or we have AirPlay. >> I’ll still be holding onto my iPhone 6 having spent a small fortune on the >> Arcam DAC . >> >> ** >> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the >> halfwits in this world behind. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Tim Noonan >> Consultant Speaker Coach >> >> Phone: +61 419 779 669 >> Email: t...@timnoonan.com.au >> Skype: VoiceReadings >> Twitter: twitter.com/TimNoonan >> >> Coaching & Consulting:www.timnoonan.com.au >> Inspirational Speaking:www.visionarycommunications.com.au >> Gemwater Bottles:www.timnoonan.com.au/water >> Voice Readings:www.voicereadings.com >> >> > > ** > Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the > halfwits in this world behind. > > >
Re: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced
guess you’ll have to read the compatibility notes on that microphone if you do decide to upgrade to a 7. I won’t be upgrading but I am curious to hear what a 7 sounds like given it has stereo speakers. The speaker in the iPhone 6 and 6S sounds absolutely glorious compared to Apple’s past IOS efforts. > On 8 Sep 2016, at 10:55 AM, John Covici wrote: > > I may not be able to go to the 7, I just bought a Rode xyl microphone, > and I am not sure it will even fit on the 7! The Rode support people > would not comment, I suppose I could always go somewhere and test. > > On Wed, 07 Sep 2016 20:37:46 -0400, > Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >> Whilst I don’t travel on planes I do have a hearing impairment -a profound >> one at that - thus I believe I’m in a position to comment as I have done. >> There are ways around the charging problem as you put it, I’ve seen cases >> already that have one or two additional lightning dock connectors. >> As far as listening on a plan goes? Well my hearing instruments I reckon >> would be up to the job not that I’ve had absolute personal experience in >> this area given its a bit risky flying on planes with my particular hearing >> condition but that’s bye the bye and not of particular interest to this list. >> I think the main problem here is that a lot of folks would rather just whine >> about it all. >> >>> On 8 Sep 2016, at 10:28 AM, JOHN RIEHL wrote: >>> >>> What you don't realize is that for some folks who are deaf or hard of >>> hearing, or people like me who travel on trains and planes, having the >>> ability to use headphones and charge your phones is pretty important. >>> I resent having a substantive capability taken away for the sake of >>> "thinness". >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit >>> Campos >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 7:16 PM >>> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' >>> Subject: RE: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced >>> >>> Yeah not much was said but it sounds like they are more wireless than blue >>> tooth. They talked trach about blue tooth. I mean just to say that they >>> didn't seem keen to use it. So I guess it's some kind of wireless like >>> wireless headphones and keyboards use. Which for distance is much better. >>> Leo Laporte and Andy Anatco were pissed about the jack. They kept insisting >>> that they could have kept it. But that would mean the phone would have to >>> be wider at best. Right? AAlso I agree with Shiller time to cut the cord. >>> Cords always tangle especially the cheep spegetty cord like Apple >>> themselves use for the ear pods. Or you could axidentally step on them and >>> break something like I've done to my Bose OE2I head phone kable. Stuff like >>> that. I agree it's not fare for those that have bought mad expensive stuff >>> that is corded but oh well se la vi. At least they give ya an adaptor. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane >>> Trethowan >>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 6:46 PM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced >>> >>> Indeed it has and no real surprises. >>> The headphones socket has gone to make way for another speaker - thus >>> stereo speakers which should dramatically improve the sound of the phone - >>> and that can only be a plus. >>> According to the blurb I read the iPhone comes with two very nice >>> additions, a lightning dock to 3.5MM headphones adapter and a set of >>> Airbuds, interesting to know whether these use AirPlay, Bluetooth or yet >>> another standard? I wasn’t presented with much information on them. >>> No mention of atpX unfortunately, at least we have the dock where we can >>> plug in DAC’s if better sound is what we’re after or we have AirPlay. >>> I’ll still be holding onto my iPhone 6 having spent a small fortune on the >>> Arcam DAC . >>> >>> ** >>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the >>> halfwits in this world behind. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ** >> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the >> halfwits in this world behind. >> >> >> >> > > -- > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: > How do > you spend it? > > John Covici > cov...@ccs.covici.com > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
Re: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced
Hmm, interesting. I have seen AirPlay devices that are around which are in perfect sync with Airplay - that is to say there’s no delay between source and target when streaming - so I thought Apple may have perhaps used that method. Then again AirPlay streaming does take a fair amount of power so perhaps that’s why Apple chose Bluetooth. > On 8 Sep 2016, at 10:53 AM, Tim Noonan wrote: > > The Airpots are still using Bluetooth, but wrapped in all sorts of Apple > secret sauce. > > Probably some aspects from the now announced BT 5.0 spec. > > Here is a fuller description of the justification for removing the headphone > jack and the Airpod tech and design. > > Inside iPhone 7: Why Apple Killed The Headphone Jack - BuzzFeed News > https://t.co/TV2Kps3Mvz > > On 8 Sep 2016, at 9:15 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: > > Yeah not much was said but it sounds like they are more wireless than blue > tooth. They talked trach about blue tooth. I mean just to say that they > didn't seem keen to use it. So I guess it's some kind of wireless like > wireless headphones and keyboards use. Which for distance is much better. Leo > Laporte and Andy Anatco were pissed about the jack. They kept insisting that > they could have kept it. But that would mean the phone would have to be wider > at best. Right? AAlso I agree with Shiller time to cut the cord. Cords always > tangle especially the cheep spegetty cord like Apple themselves use for the > ear pods. Or you could axidentally step on them and break something like I've > done to my Bose OE2I head phone kable. Stuff like that. I agree it's not fare > for those that have bought mad expensive stuff that is corded but oh well se > la vi. At least they give ya an adaptor. > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 6:46 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced > > Indeed it has and no real surprises. > The headphones socket has gone to make way for another speaker - thus stereo > speakers which should dramatically improve the sound of the phone - and that > can only be a plus. > According to the blurb I read the iPhone comes with two very nice additions, > a lightning dock to 3.5MM headphones adapter and a set of Airbuds, > interesting to know whether these use AirPlay, Bluetooth or yet another > standard? I wasn’t presented with much information on them. > No mention of atpX unfortunately, at least we have the dock where we can plug > in DAC’s if better sound is what we’re after or we have AirPlay. > I’ll still be holding onto my iPhone 6 having spent a small fortune on the > Arcam DAC . > > ** > Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the > halfwits in this world behind. > > > > > > > Tim Noonan > Consultant Speaker Coach > > Phone: +61 419 779 669 > Email: t...@timnoonan.com.au > Skype: VoiceReadings > Twitter: twitter.com/TimNoonan > > Coaching & Consulting:www.timnoonan.com.au > Inspirational Speaking: www.visionarycommunications.com.au > Gemwater Bottles: www.timnoonan.com.au/water > Voice Readings: www.voicereadings.com > > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
Re: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced
I may not be able to go to the 7, I just bought a Rode xyl microphone, and I am not sure it will even fit on the 7! The Rode support people would not comment, I suppose I could always go somewhere and test. On Wed, 07 Sep 2016 20:37:46 -0400, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > Whilst I don’t travel on planes I do have a hearing impairment -a profound > one at that - thus I believe I’m in a position to comment as I have done. > There are ways around the charging problem as you put it, I’ve seen cases > already that have one or two additional lightning dock connectors. > As far as listening on a plan goes? Well my hearing instruments I reckon > would be up to the job not that I’ve had absolute personal experience in this > area given its a bit risky flying on planes with my particular hearing > condition but that’s bye the bye and not of particular interest to this list. > I think the main problem here is that a lot of folks would rather just whine > about it all. > > > On 8 Sep 2016, at 10:28 AM, JOHN RIEHL wrote: > > > > What you don't realize is that for some folks who are deaf or hard of > > hearing, or people like me who travel on trains and planes, having the > > ability to use headphones and charge your phones is pretty important. > > I resent having a substantive capability taken away for the sake of > > "thinness". > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit > > Campos > > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 7:16 PM > > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > > Subject: RE: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced > > > > Yeah not much was said but it sounds like they are more wireless than blue > > tooth. They talked trach about blue tooth. I mean just to say that they > > didn't seem keen to use it. So I guess it's some kind of wireless like > > wireless headphones and keyboards use. Which for distance is much better. > > Leo Laporte and Andy Anatco were pissed about the jack. They kept insisting > > that they could have kept it. But that would mean the phone would have to > > be wider at best. Right? AAlso I agree with Shiller time to cut the cord. > > Cords always tangle especially the cheep spegetty cord like Apple > > themselves use for the ear pods. Or you could axidentally step on them and > > break something like I've done to my Bose OE2I head phone kable. Stuff like > > that. I agree it's not fare for those that have bought mad expensive stuff > > that is corded but oh well se la vi. At least they give ya an adaptor. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > > Trethowan > > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 6:46 PM > > To: PC Audio Discussion List > > Subject: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced > > > > Indeed it has and no real surprises. > > The headphones socket has gone to make way for another speaker - thus > > stereo speakers which should dramatically improve the sound of the phone - > > and that can only be a plus. > > According to the blurb I read the iPhone comes with two very nice > > additions, a lightning dock to 3.5MM headphones adapter and a set of > > Airbuds, interesting to know whether these use AirPlay, Bluetooth or yet > > another standard? I wasn’t presented with much information on them. > > No mention of atpX unfortunately, at least we have the dock where we can > > plug in DAC’s if better sound is what we’re after or we have AirPlay. > > I’ll still be holding onto my iPhone 6 having spent a small fortune on the > > Arcam DAC . > > > > ** > > Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the > > halfwits in this world behind. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the > halfwits in this world behind. > > > > -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
Re: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced
The Airpots are still using Bluetooth, but wrapped in all sorts of Apple secret sauce. Probably some aspects from the now announced BT 5.0 spec. Here is a fuller description of the justification for removing the headphone jack and the Airpod tech and design. Inside iPhone 7: Why Apple Killed The Headphone Jack - BuzzFeed News https://t.co/TV2Kps3Mvz On 8 Sep 2016, at 9:15 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: Yeah not much was said but it sounds like they are more wireless than blue tooth. They talked trach about blue tooth. I mean just to say that they didn't seem keen to use it. So I guess it's some kind of wireless like wireless headphones and keyboards use. Which for distance is much better. Leo Laporte and Andy Anatco were pissed about the jack. They kept insisting that they could have kept it. But that would mean the phone would have to be wider at best. Right? AAlso I agree with Shiller time to cut the cord. Cords always tangle especially the cheep spegetty cord like Apple themselves use for the ear pods. Or you could axidentally step on them and break something like I've done to my Bose OE2I head phone kable. Stuff like that. I agree it's not fare for those that have bought mad expensive stuff that is corded but oh well se la vi. At least they give ya an adaptor. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 6:46 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced Indeed it has and no real surprises. The headphones socket has gone to make way for another speaker - thus stereo speakers which should dramatically improve the sound of the phone - and that can only be a plus. According to the blurb I read the iPhone comes with two very nice additions, a lightning dock to 3.5MM headphones adapter and a set of Airbuds, interesting to know whether these use AirPlay, Bluetooth or yet another standard? I wasn’t presented with much information on them. No mention of atpX unfortunately, at least we have the dock where we can plug in DAC’s if better sound is what we’re after or we have AirPlay. I’ll still be holding onto my iPhone 6 having spent a small fortune on the Arcam DAC . ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind. Tim Noonan Consultant Speaker Coach Phone: +61 419 779 669 Email: t...@timnoonan.com.au Skype: VoiceReadings Twitter: twitter.com/TimNoonan Coaching & Consulting: www.timnoonan.com.au Inspirational Speaking: www.visionarycommunications.com.au Gemwater Bottles: www.timnoonan.com.au/water Voice Readings: www.voicereadings.com
RE: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced
Actually, there's a difference between "whining" and legitimate complaints about a feature that one values that is now lost. If I were gaining something substantial by losing the headphone jack I'd feel better about it, but I'm losing a substantial capability -- the ability to use headphones and charge my phone at the same time. As I said, I take train trips lasting several hours and listen to books, etc, while charging my phone. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 8:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced Whilst I don’t travel on planes I do have a hearing impairment -a profound one at that - thus I believe I’m in a position to comment as I have done. There are ways around the charging problem as you put it, I’ve seen cases already that have one or two additional lightning dock connectors. As far as listening on a plan goes? Well my hearing instruments I reckon would be up to the job not that I’ve had absolute personal experience in this area given its a bit risky flying on planes with my particular hearing condition but that’s bye the bye and not of particular interest to this list. I think the main problem here is that a lot of folks would rather just whine about it all. > On 8 Sep 2016, at 10:28 AM, JOHN RIEHL wrote: > > What you don't realize is that for some folks who are deaf or hard of > hearing, or people like me who travel on trains and planes, having the > ability to use headphones and charge your phones is pretty important. > I resent having a substantive capability taken away for the sake of > "thinness". > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit > Campos > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 7:16 PM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced > > Yeah not much was said but it sounds like they are more wireless than blue > tooth. They talked trach about blue tooth. I mean just to say that they > didn't seem keen to use it. So I guess it's some kind of wireless like > wireless headphones and keyboards use. Which for distance is much better. Leo > Laporte and Andy Anatco were pissed about the jack. They kept insisting that > they could have kept it. But that would mean the phone would have to be wider > at best. Right? AAlso I agree with Shiller time to cut the cord. Cords always > tangle especially the cheep spegetty cord like Apple themselves use for the > ear pods. Or you could axidentally step on them and break something like I've > done to my Bose OE2I head phone kable. Stuff like that. I agree it's not fare > for those that have bought mad expensive stuff that is corded but oh well se > la vi. At least they give ya an adaptor. > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 6:46 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced > > Indeed it has and no real surprises. > The headphones socket has gone to make way for another speaker - thus stereo > speakers which should dramatically improve the sound of the phone - and that > can only be a plus. > According to the blurb I read the iPhone comes with two very nice additions, > a lightning dock to 3.5MM headphones adapter and a set of Airbuds, > interesting to know whether these use AirPlay, Bluetooth or yet another > standard? I wasn’t presented with much information on them. > No mention of atpX unfortunately, at least we have the dock where we can plug > in DAC’s if better sound is what we’re after or we have AirPlay. > I’ll still be holding onto my iPhone 6 having spent a small fortune on the > Arcam DAC . > > ** > Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the > halfwits in this world behind. > > > > > > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
Re: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced
Well perhaps with all these radio waves and all the aliens might finally take away all those who just like complaining all day long . > On 8 Sep 2016, at 10:35 AM, Peter Scanlon wrote: > > We have enough radio waves bombarding our body, now we have to use Blue Tooth > if we want to charge and listen. > > P. > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL > Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2016 10:29 AM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced > > What you don't realize is that for some folks who are deaf or hard of > hearing, or people like me who travel on trains and planes, having the > ability to use headphones and charge your phones is pretty important. > I resent having a substantive capability taken away for the sake of > "thinness". > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit > Campos > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 7:16 PM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced > > Yeah not much was said but it sounds like they are more wireless than blue > tooth. They talked trach about blue tooth. I mean just to say that they > didn't seem keen to use it. So I guess it's some kind of wireless like > wireless headphones and keyboards use. Which for distance is much better. Leo > Laporte and Andy Anatco were pissed about the jack. They kept insisting that > they could have kept it. But that would mean the phone would have to be wider > at best. Right? AAlso I agree with Shiller time to cut the cord. Cords always > tangle especially the cheep spegetty cord like Apple themselves use for the > ear pods. Or you could axidentally step on them and break something like I've > done to my Bose OE2I head phone kable. Stuff like that. I agree it's not fare > for those that have bought mad expensive stuff that is corded but oh well se > la vi. At least they give ya an adaptor. > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 6:46 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced > > Indeed it has and no real surprises. > The headphones socket has gone to make way for another speaker - thus stereo > speakers which should dramatically improve the sound of the phone - and that > can only be a plus. > According to the blurb I read the iPhone comes with two very nice additions, > a lightning dock to 3.5MM headphones adapter and a set of Airbuds, > interesting to know whether these use AirPlay, Bluetooth or yet another > standard? I wasn’t presented with much information on them. > No mention of atpX unfortunately, at least we have the dock where we can plug > in DAC’s if better sound is what we’re after or we have AirPlay. > I’ll still be holding onto my iPhone 6 having spent a small fortune on the > Arcam DAC . > > ** > Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the > halfwits in this world behind. > > > > > > > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
Re: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced
Whilst I don’t travel on planes I do have a hearing impairment -a profound one at that - thus I believe I’m in a position to comment as I have done. There are ways around the charging problem as you put it, I’ve seen cases already that have one or two additional lightning dock connectors. As far as listening on a plan goes? Well my hearing instruments I reckon would be up to the job not that I’ve had absolute personal experience in this area given its a bit risky flying on planes with my particular hearing condition but that’s bye the bye and not of particular interest to this list. I think the main problem here is that a lot of folks would rather just whine about it all. > On 8 Sep 2016, at 10:28 AM, JOHN RIEHL wrote: > > What you don't realize is that for some folks who are deaf or hard of > hearing, or people like me who travel on trains and planes, having the > ability to use headphones and charge your phones is pretty important. > I resent having a substantive capability taken away for the sake of > "thinness". > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit > Campos > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 7:16 PM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced > > Yeah not much was said but it sounds like they are more wireless than blue > tooth. They talked trach about blue tooth. I mean just to say that they > didn't seem keen to use it. So I guess it's some kind of wireless like > wireless headphones and keyboards use. Which for distance is much better. Leo > Laporte and Andy Anatco were pissed about the jack. They kept insisting that > they could have kept it. But that would mean the phone would have to be wider > at best. Right? AAlso I agree with Shiller time to cut the cord. Cords always > tangle especially the cheep spegetty cord like Apple themselves use for the > ear pods. Or you could axidentally step on them and break something like I've > done to my Bose OE2I head phone kable. Stuff like that. I agree it's not fare > for those that have bought mad expensive stuff that is corded but oh well se > la vi. At least they give ya an adaptor. > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 6:46 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced > > Indeed it has and no real surprises. > The headphones socket has gone to make way for another speaker - thus stereo > speakers which should dramatically improve the sound of the phone - and that > can only be a plus. > According to the blurb I read the iPhone comes with two very nice additions, > a lightning dock to 3.5MM headphones adapter and a set of Airbuds, > interesting to know whether these use AirPlay, Bluetooth or yet another > standard? I wasn’t presented with much information on them. > No mention of atpX unfortunately, at least we have the dock where we can plug > in DAC’s if better sound is what we’re after or we have AirPlay. > I’ll still be holding onto my iPhone 6 having spent a small fortune on the > Arcam DAC . > > ** > Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the > halfwits in this world behind. > > > > > > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
RE: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced
We have enough radio waves bombarding our body, now we have to use Blue Tooth if we want to charge and listen. P. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2016 10:29 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced What you don't realize is that for some folks who are deaf or hard of hearing, or people like me who travel on trains and planes, having the ability to use headphones and charge your phones is pretty important. I resent having a substantive capability taken away for the sake of "thinness". -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 7:16 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced Yeah not much was said but it sounds like they are more wireless than blue tooth. They talked trach about blue tooth. I mean just to say that they didn't seem keen to use it. So I guess it's some kind of wireless like wireless headphones and keyboards use. Which for distance is much better. Leo Laporte and Andy Anatco were pissed about the jack. They kept insisting that they could have kept it. But that would mean the phone would have to be wider at best. Right? AAlso I agree with Shiller time to cut the cord. Cords always tangle especially the cheep spegetty cord like Apple themselves use for the ear pods. Or you could axidentally step on them and break something like I've done to my Bose OE2I head phone kable. Stuff like that. I agree it's not fare for those that have bought mad expensive stuff that is corded but oh well se la vi. At least they give ya an adaptor. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 6:46 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced Indeed it has and no real surprises. The headphones socket has gone to make way for another speaker - thus stereo speakers which should dramatically improve the sound of the phone - and that can only be a plus. According to the blurb I read the iPhone comes with two very nice additions, a lightning dock to 3.5MM headphones adapter and a set of Airbuds, interesting to know whether these use AirPlay, Bluetooth or yet another standard? I wasn’t presented with much information on them. No mention of atpX unfortunately, at least we have the dock where we can plug in DAC’s if better sound is what we’re after or we have AirPlay. I’ll still be holding onto my iPhone 6 having spent a small fortune on the Arcam DAC . ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
RE: recording mixer program; scheduling and recording audio in Win10 Anniversary edition
Hello Dean: You are probably referring to Virtual Recorder, that allows you to record in a manner similar to the old "Stereo Mix" or "What you hear." Humberto Humberto Rodriguez http://radiogeneral.com -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dean Martineau Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 1:47 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: recording mixer program; scheduling and recording audio in Win10 Anniversary edition Hello. After a computer crash, I have lost a little information and a lot of functionality. I cannot remember the name and URL for the little free program that lets you choose your sound source to record on a pc. I restored this computer to default and then upgraded to windows 10 Anniversary Edition. Since then, even running as an administrator, I cannot schedule or record with Replay Radio, or schedule with Tapin Radio Pro. I have yet to figure this out. If anybody can suggest why the same computer which used to run windows 10 has now lost these abilities in windows 10 anniversary Edition, I would love to understand it; my Google search didn't help.
RE: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced
What you don't realize is that for some folks who are deaf or hard of hearing, or people like me who travel on trains and planes, having the ability to use headphones and charge your phones is pretty important. I resent having a substantive capability taken away for the sake of "thinness". -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 7:16 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced Yeah not much was said but it sounds like they are more wireless than blue tooth. They talked trach about blue tooth. I mean just to say that they didn't seem keen to use it. So I guess it's some kind of wireless like wireless headphones and keyboards use. Which for distance is much better. Leo Laporte and Andy Anatco were pissed about the jack. They kept insisting that they could have kept it. But that would mean the phone would have to be wider at best. Right? AAlso I agree with Shiller time to cut the cord. Cords always tangle especially the cheep spegetty cord like Apple themselves use for the ear pods. Or you could axidentally step on them and break something like I've done to my Bose OE2I head phone kable. Stuff like that. I agree it's not fare for those that have bought mad expensive stuff that is corded but oh well se la vi. At least they give ya an adaptor. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 6:46 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced Indeed it has and no real surprises. The headphones socket has gone to make way for another speaker - thus stereo speakers which should dramatically improve the sound of the phone - and that can only be a plus. According to the blurb I read the iPhone comes with two very nice additions, a lightning dock to 3.5MM headphones adapter and a set of Airbuds, interesting to know whether these use AirPlay, Bluetooth or yet another standard? I wasn’t presented with much information on them. No mention of atpX unfortunately, at least we have the dock where we can plug in DAC’s if better sound is what we’re after or we have AirPlay. I’ll still be holding onto my iPhone 6 having spent a small fortune on the Arcam DAC . ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
RE: Bluetooth Headset
Yes thanks. H I guess I don't know than if the new XPSs have it either than. If not that's too bad. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 7:34 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bluetooth Headset Bluetooth 4.2 is the implementation of Bluetooth itself, aptX is the encoding used and 4.2 is the Bluetooth version used, you can use aptX on earlier versions of Bluetooth such as Bluetooth 3 but Bluetooth 4.x has other advantages, a wider band width which aptX can take full advantage of and facilities for lower energy consumption so it makes sense for battery devices such as headsets to use 4.x. Hope this explains. > On 8 Sep 2016, at 9:29 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: > > Dane is this APTX thing different from Bluetooth 4.2? I just saw 4.2 a few > days ago as a speck for Dell's new XPSs. > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 10:57 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Bluetooth Headset > > Yes, that’s the problem with the AAC coding and most other methods of sending > data from a device to a Bluetooth speaker, headphones etc, you’re not only > listening to a file - most likely compressed - but its being compressed yet > again hence more loss of quality though - as you say - its probably not too > noticeable when listening to Speech. > I had the small Jambox and was glad to be rid of it, never thought much of > that device at all. > Yeah okay, people spoke of how it had voice prompting and how you could add > an effect to widen the channels with DSP but that’s all gimmick type stuff as > far as I’m concerned. > I’d be very surprised if the chips that Apple were using for Bluetooth didn’t > handle aptX and you’ve probably put your finger on it when you talk about > firmware being rewritten. > As far as I know the chips used for Bluetooth handle Bluetooth 4.0 and above > so - that being the case - they should easily accommodate aptX I would have > thought. > Now a thought has crossed my mind, if Apple are going to release a phone > without a headphone socket then perhaps it may also be the right time to > upgrade the Bluetooth standard to Lossless - aptX in other words -., guess > will know 48 hours from now. > >> On 7 Sep 2016, at 12:43 PM, Tim Noonan wrote: >> >> Its hard to say if ApTx will be included - but from beta testing iOS I feel >> that the Bluetooth code has been rewritten or upgraded. >> >> Only some brands of Bluetooth chips support the Codec. >> >> For a few years now, Apple have been promoting an AAC Bluetooth Codec - >> likely working on the desire to avoid transcoding of AAC files from iTunes >> and now Apple Music. >> >> Though its been around for a couple of years now, I have a Big Jambox >> speaker which is AAC Codec compatible and though it is a lovely speaker for >> listening to voice and spoken word, it has very high latency - which I >> wonder is a result of the AAC Codec being used. >> >> But, if you want a speaker that is great for listening to podcasts, audio >> books and which can fill a room nicely with no strain or hardness, the Big >> Jambox is great - it has a wonderful open sound - but for modern music it is >> not strong in bass. >> >> I don't like boomy sound myself, and this speaker is very clean, open and >> fresh in its sound with lovely top end. >> >> In fact, it is now my main computer speaker for all TTS output etc, via its >> line in jack. I also use it in the voice and listening workshops that I run. >> >> Regards >> Tim >> >> >> On 7 Sep 2016, at 9:41 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >> Yes indeed, we’ll see tomorrow but I doubt whether Apple consider APTX a >> priority and why do I say that? Well its been around for quite some time now >> and Apple have had plenty of time to introduce the technology to their >> Smartphones and other devices, I believe the hardware is there already. >> Another company that doesn’t use APTX surprisingly is Bose but then again >> one could argue perhaps not surprisingly . >> >>> On 7 Sep 2016, at 9:26 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: >>> >>> For now that is. We'll see tomorrow. It'd be a real shame for IPhone 7 to >>> not have NFC. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane >>> Trethowan >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 5:38 PM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth Headset >>> >>> I think the newer model supports NFC though as you said, that’s hardly >>> useful if you have an iPhone. >>> On 7 Sep 2016, at 7:29 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! Sounds intresting. Do they support nfc too? My new bose does but i don’t think the Iphone does so i have to get me an android instead. THe noise cancellation is good for me
RE: Bluetooth Headset
Yeah that's why for AV stuff I sadly with a heavy heart lol may have to jump ship. For 1 bose's true 5.1 systems start in the thousands. Now yes I could get an acoustimass 10 or something but still can those handle the formats for UHD BD? Hm me thinks not if they are any higher than 96 KHZ 24 bit. What's more for 1100 you can just get Onkyo's 7.1.4 dolby atmos system. All this to just say that I don't get why Bose lags. How many other companies use APTX? Other than Samsung? I think HTC does don't they? Bose uses that excuse sometimes. But it's an excuse. Loads and loads of films are in DTX HD Master and no HD MA on a bose system to this very day as far as I know. Oh and there's 7.1 all over the place yet bose got scared off with the 6.1 flop for good and won't make a 7.1 system. We'll see. But I don't think the new phone has APTX. They didn't say anything to it doing so. Again I guess cause they chose wireless over blue tooth. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 7:42 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bluetooth Headset Yes indeed, we’ll see tomorrow but I doubt whether Apple consider APTX a priority and why do I say that? Well its been around for quite some time now and Apple have had plenty of time to introduce the technology to their Smartphones and other devices, I believe the hardware is there already. Another company that doesn’t use APTX surprisingly is Bose but then again one could argue perhaps not surprisingly . > On 7 Sep 2016, at 9:26 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: > > For now that is. We'll see tomorrow. It'd be a real shame for IPhone 7 to not > have NFC. > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 5:38 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Bluetooth Headset > > I think the newer model supports NFC though as you said, that’s hardly useful > if you have an iPhone. > >> On 7 Sep 2016, at 7:29 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: >> >> Hi! >> Sounds intresting. >> Do they support nfc too? >> My new bose does but i don’t think the Iphone does so i have to get me an >> android instead. >> THe noise cancellation is good for me as i don’t like the sound from cars >> through closed headphones. >> /A >>> On 6 Sep 2016, at 07:05, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I received a pair of Sehheiser MM550X cans today and I’m suitably impressed >>> though everything isn’t roses with this system, there’s nothing much to >>> complain about really as I regard the gripes I have as minor irritations to >>> be aware of so as such they will be left to last. >>> >>> The MM550 is a comfortable closed headset which is of a lightweight but >>> sturdy build and can be folded up into a carry case supplied for travelling. >>> >>> As such the user is provided with all manner of adapters for these cans >>> including an adapter for connection to an inflight entertainment system via >>> the use of the supplied cable that turns these cans into a very nice >>> sounding pair of wired cans but the main attraction of the MM550 – apart >>> from its build and travelling versatility – is the Bluetooth component >>> without a doubt. >>> >>> The MM550 come equipped with AptX decoding which is noticeable right away >>> when paired to my Samsung Galaxy S6 and to me the aptX facility is the big >>> sounding feature for these cans. >>> >>> Naturally voic calls can be made and answered from the MM550 using Google >>> Now or similar – SIRI on an iPhone – and the microphones on the MM550 give >>> extremely good definition in phone calls particularly if you’re able to use >>> HD Voice on your phone’s network. >>> >>> I’ve not tried the active noise cancellation feature yet though for a >>> closed set of cans I wonder why you’d need it?. >>> >>> The MM550 also provides a “Talk Through” function, suppose you’re listening >>> to your favourite tracks on a long flight and you wish to hear what’s going >>> on around you, press the “Talk Through” button and you’ll hear! Without >>> removing the cans from your ears. >>> >>> Music sounds wonderful through these cans – whether using the direct cable >>> connection of Bluetooth – but the Bluetooth experience is certainly made >>> more worthwhile given the control you have over your music collection from >>> the MM550 system itself which is provided with track forward and back >>> buttons as well as using the master button as a pause. >>> >>> I haven’t listened to the MM550 for an extended period of time yet though I >>> doubt I’ll encounter any problems with sore ears given the weight of this >>> headset and its luxurious leather padding around the cuffs. >>> >>> So to the couple of bad things about this headset and the first is annoying. >>> >>> The lithium-ion battery can be charged
RE: thoughts on the Zoom H6 Handy Recorder
It just means my friend that this thing collects loads and loads of sampels of audio and uses 24 bits of them at a time. Or something like that. I've forgotten how to explane sample rate which is what 192 KHZ is. Then there's the bit depth. Which is 24 bit. All it really means in a real practical sence though is that it's full blast HD my friend. Full Blu Ray quality. Too bad this thing's like $800 other wize I too would get 1. But the other down side is that it doesn't talk like the Olympus recorders. So I'd totally be lost. I don't think this even beeps. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 2:51 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: thoughts on the Zoom H6 Handy Recorder Hi Dane. I purchased the H6 for, I believe, £470 in December of last year, from a London shop. It's very difficult to use as a blind guy and you will need sighted assistance when setting every thing up, ready for a session. Mr Neil Ewars, once from Blind Cool Teck, did a podcast on this machine last year and I have that podcast whenever you request it . Neil - said something like this. The Zoom H6 is in my opinion the best portable, 6 track digital hand held recorder in the world. It can record at 24 bit Wave at 195Khz - whatever that means. All I can tell you my friend that everything I've recorded has been at the highestquality and I also would vote it the best recorder I've ever had. I like to record local bands in my pub and thequality would amaze you. 2 weeks ago I recorded what was arguably, the worst thunder and lighten episode of my 62 year old life and I posted it off to friends on another list and they all thought that the quality was amazing. So my advice and I don't really know as much as you guys, is go for the Zoom H6 every time. neil is an audio engineer of huge experience and I concur with his assessment regarding this device. Very best wishes . Andy. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 5:39 PM Subject: thoughts on the Zoom H6 Handy Recorder Hi! Think another list member wrote to say that they had one of these recorders. I’d be interested to know what the user of the Zoom H6 thinks of his recorder, I have the Zoom H1 and I’ve been using it for the best part of 6 years now. There are some things to be aware of with the Zoom but those things can be easily dealt with if you have a computer and audio editing software. or example the automatic level control doesn’t have quick recovery though this might be ideal for some circumstances. In any case I use manual record level and fix any level problems with Amadeus Pro or something similar. I’ve used the recorder long enough to know where the 0 DB point is in the level adjustment and one can always turn on the Auto Level control for a reference point and adjust to it. ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
Re: Bluetooth Headset
Bluetooth 4.2 is the implementation of Bluetooth itself, aptX is the encoding used and 4.2 is the Bluetooth version used, you can use aptX on earlier versions of Bluetooth such as Bluetooth 3 but Bluetooth 4.x has other advantages, a wider band width which aptX can take full advantage of and facilities for lower energy consumption so it makes sense for battery devices such as headsets to use 4.x. Hope this explains. > On 8 Sep 2016, at 9:29 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: > > Dane is this APTX thing different from Bluetooth 4.2? I just saw 4.2 a few > days ago as a speck for Dell's new XPSs. > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 10:57 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Bluetooth Headset > > Yes, that’s the problem with the AAC coding and most other methods of sending > data from a device to a Bluetooth speaker, headphones etc, you’re not only > listening to a file - most likely compressed - but its being compressed yet > again hence more loss of quality though - as you say - its probably not too > noticeable when listening to Speech. > I had the small Jambox and was glad to be rid of it, never thought much of > that device at all. > Yeah okay, people spoke of how it had voice prompting and how you could add > an effect to widen the channels with DSP but that’s all gimmick type stuff as > far as I’m concerned. > I’d be very surprised if the chips that Apple were using for Bluetooth didn’t > handle aptX and you’ve probably put your finger on it when you talk about > firmware being rewritten. > As far as I know the chips used for Bluetooth handle Bluetooth 4.0 and above > so - that being the case - they should easily accommodate aptX I would have > thought. > Now a thought has crossed my mind, if Apple are going to release a phone > without a headphone socket then perhaps it may also be the right time to > upgrade the Bluetooth standard to Lossless - aptX in other words -., guess > will know 48 hours from now. > >> On 7 Sep 2016, at 12:43 PM, Tim Noonan wrote: >> >> Its hard to say if ApTx will be included - but from beta testing iOS I feel >> that the Bluetooth code has been rewritten or upgraded. >> >> Only some brands of Bluetooth chips support the Codec. >> >> For a few years now, Apple have been promoting an AAC Bluetooth Codec - >> likely working on the desire to avoid transcoding of AAC files from iTunes >> and now Apple Music. >> >> Though its been around for a couple of years now, I have a Big Jambox >> speaker which is AAC Codec compatible and though it is a lovely speaker for >> listening to voice and spoken word, it has very high latency - which I >> wonder is a result of the AAC Codec being used. >> >> But, if you want a speaker that is great for listening to podcasts, audio >> books and which can fill a room nicely with no strain or hardness, the Big >> Jambox is great - it has a wonderful open sound - but for modern music it is >> not strong in bass. >> >> I don't like boomy sound myself, and this speaker is very clean, open and >> fresh in its sound with lovely top end. >> >> In fact, it is now my main computer speaker for all TTS output etc, via its >> line in jack. I also use it in the voice and listening workshops that I run. >> >> Regards >> Tim >> >> >> On 7 Sep 2016, at 9:41 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >> Yes indeed, we’ll see tomorrow but I doubt whether Apple consider APTX a >> priority and why do I say that? Well its been around for quite some time now >> and Apple have had plenty of time to introduce the technology to their >> Smartphones and other devices, I believe the hardware is there already. >> Another company that doesn’t use APTX surprisingly is Bose but then again >> one could argue perhaps not surprisingly . >> >>> On 7 Sep 2016, at 9:26 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: >>> >>> For now that is. We'll see tomorrow. It'd be a real shame for IPhone 7 to >>> not have NFC. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane >>> Trethowan >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 5:38 PM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: Bluetooth Headset >>> >>> I think the newer model supports NFC though as you said, that’s hardly >>> useful if you have an iPhone. >>> On 7 Sep 2016, at 7:29 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: Hi! Sounds intresting. Do they support nfc too? My new bose does but i don’t think the Iphone does so i have to get me an android instead. THe noise cancellation is good for me as i don’t like the sound from cars through closed headphones. /A > On 6 Sep 2016, at 07:05, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I received a pair of Sehheiser MM550X cans today and I’m suitably > impressed though everything isn’t roses with thi
RE: Bluetooth Headset
Dane is this APTX thing different from Bluetooth 4.2? I just saw 4.2 a few days ago as a speck for Dell's new XPSs. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 10:57 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bluetooth Headset Yes, that’s the problem with the AAC coding and most other methods of sending data from a device to a Bluetooth speaker, headphones etc, you’re not only listening to a file - most likely compressed - but its being compressed yet again hence more loss of quality though - as you say - its probably not too noticeable when listening to Speech. I had the small Jambox and was glad to be rid of it, never thought much of that device at all. Yeah okay, people spoke of how it had voice prompting and how you could add an effect to widen the channels with DSP but that’s all gimmick type stuff as far as I’m concerned. I’d be very surprised if the chips that Apple were using for Bluetooth didn’t handle aptX and you’ve probably put your finger on it when you talk about firmware being rewritten. As far as I know the chips used for Bluetooth handle Bluetooth 4.0 and above so - that being the case - they should easily accommodate aptX I would have thought. Now a thought has crossed my mind, if Apple are going to release a phone without a headphone socket then perhaps it may also be the right time to upgrade the Bluetooth standard to Lossless - aptX in other words -., guess will know 48 hours from now. > On 7 Sep 2016, at 12:43 PM, Tim Noonan wrote: > > Its hard to say if ApTx will be included - but from beta testing iOS I feel > that the Bluetooth code has been rewritten or upgraded. > > Only some brands of Bluetooth chips support the Codec. > > For a few years now, Apple have been promoting an AAC Bluetooth Codec - > likely working on the desire to avoid transcoding of AAC files from iTunes > and now Apple Music. > > Though its been around for a couple of years now, I have a Big Jambox speaker > which is AAC Codec compatible and though it is a lovely speaker for listening > to voice and spoken word, it has very high latency - which I wonder is a > result of the AAC Codec being used. > > But, if you want a speaker that is great for listening to podcasts, audio > books and which can fill a room nicely with no strain or hardness, the Big > Jambox is great - it has a wonderful open sound - but for modern music it is > not strong in bass. > > I don't like boomy sound myself, and this speaker is very clean, open and > fresh in its sound with lovely top end. > > In fact, it is now my main computer speaker for all TTS output etc, via its > line in jack. I also use it in the voice and listening workshops that I run. > > Regards > Tim > > > On 7 Sep 2016, at 9:41 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > Yes indeed, we’ll see tomorrow but I doubt whether Apple consider APTX a > priority and why do I say that? Well its been around for quite some time now > and Apple have had plenty of time to introduce the technology to their > Smartphones and other devices, I believe the hardware is there already. > Another company that doesn’t use APTX surprisingly is Bose but then again one > could argue perhaps not surprisingly . > >> On 7 Sep 2016, at 9:26 AM, Hamit Campos wrote: >> >> For now that is. We'll see tomorrow. It'd be a real shame for IPhone 7 to >> not have NFC. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane >> Trethowan >> Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 5:38 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Bluetooth Headset >> >> I think the newer model supports NFC though as you said, that’s hardly >> useful if you have an iPhone. >> >>> On 7 Sep 2016, at 7:29 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> Sounds intresting. >>> Do they support nfc too? >>> My new bose does but i don’t think the Iphone does so i have to get me an >>> android instead. >>> THe noise cancellation is good for me as i don’t like the sound from cars >>> through closed headphones. >>> /A On 6 Sep 2016, at 07:05, Dane Trethowan wrote: I received a pair of Sehheiser MM550X cans today and I’m suitably impressed though everything isn’t roses with this system, there’s nothing much to complain about really as I regard the gripes I have as minor irritations to be aware of so as such they will be left to last. The MM550 is a comfortable closed headset which is of a lightweight but sturdy build and can be folded up into a carry case supplied for travelling. As such the user is provided with all manner of adapters for these cans including an adapter for connection to an inflight entertainment system via the use of the supplied cable that turns these cans into a very nice sounding pair of wired cans
RE: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced
Yeah not much was said but it sounds like they are more wireless than blue tooth. They talked trach about blue tooth. I mean just to say that they didn't seem keen to use it. So I guess it's some kind of wireless like wireless headphones and keyboards use. Which for distance is much better. Leo Laporte and Andy Anatco were pissed about the jack. They kept insisting that they could have kept it. But that would mean the phone would have to be wider at best. Right? AAlso I agree with Shiller time to cut the cord. Cords always tangle especially the cheep spegetty cord like Apple themselves use for the ear pods. Or you could axidentally step on them and break something like I've done to my Bose OE2I head phone kable. Stuff like that. I agree it's not fare for those that have bought mad expensive stuff that is corded but oh well se la vi. At least they give ya an adaptor. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 6:46 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: So the new iPhone 7 has been announced Indeed it has and no real surprises. The headphones socket has gone to make way for another speaker - thus stereo speakers which should dramatically improve the sound of the phone - and that can only be a plus. According to the blurb I read the iPhone comes with two very nice additions, a lightning dock to 3.5MM headphones adapter and a set of Airbuds, interesting to know whether these use AirPlay, Bluetooth or yet another standard? I wasn’t presented with much information on them. No mention of atpX unfortunately, at least we have the dock where we can plug in DAC’s if better sound is what we’re after or we have AirPlay. I’ll still be holding onto my iPhone 6 having spent a small fortune on the Arcam DAC . ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
So the new iPhone 7 has been announced
Indeed it has and no real surprises. The headphones socket has gone to make way for another speaker - thus stereo speakers which should dramatically improve the sound of the phone - and that can only be a plus. According to the blurb I read the iPhone comes with two very nice additions, a lightning dock to 3.5MM headphones adapter and a set of Airbuds, interesting to know whether these use AirPlay, Bluetooth or yet another standard? I wasn’t presented with much information on them. No mention of atpX unfortunately, at least we have the dock where we can plug in DAC’s if better sound is what we’re after or we have AirPlay. I’ll still be holding onto my iPhone 6 having spent a small fortune on the Arcam DAC . ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
Bowers And Wilkins Speakers And Access To Society Of Sound Music
Hi! Someone on list bought a Bowers And Wilkins product and asked about their entitlement for 3 months access to the Society Of Sound music programme. I believe I have the answer, you must register your product and from that point you can take advantage of this offer, I’ve just done this with my Bowers And Wilkins A7 speaker system though I registered my product using the Bowers And Wilkins App and I don’t think you can use the App to do this with say computer speakers that don’t have network connectivity. It would seem therefor that you’ll have to at least find the support page for your speakers on the Bowers And Wilkins web site, easy enough to do with Google . ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
RE: recording mixer program; scheduling and recording audio in Win10 Anniversary edition
Dean think its quickmix. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dean Martineau Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 1:47 PM To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Subject: recording mixer program; scheduling and recording audio in Win10 Anniversary edition Hello. After a computer crash, I have lost a little information and a lot of functionality. I cannot remember the name and URL for the little free program that lets you choose your sound source to record on a pc. I restored this computer to default and then upgraded to windows 10 Anniversary Edition. Since then, even running as an administrator, I cannot schedule or record with Replay Radio, or schedule with Tapin Radio Pro. I have yet to figure this out. If anybody can suggest why the same computer which used to run windows 10 has now lost these abilities in windows 10 anniversary Edition, I would love to understand it; my Google search didn't help.
recording mixer program; scheduling and recording audio in Win10 Anniversary edition
Hello. After a computer crash, I have lost a little information and a lot of functionality. I cannot remember the name and URL for the little free program that lets you choose your sound source to record on a pc. I restored this computer to default and then upgraded to windows 10 Anniversary Edition. Since then, even running as an administrator, I cannot schedule or record with Replay Radio, or schedule with Tapin Radio Pro. I have yet to figure this out. If anybody can suggest why the same computer which used to run windows 10 has now lost these abilities in windows 10 anniversary Edition, I would love to understand it; my Google search didn't help.
