RE: Memory cards for the old PTRs

2016-09-12 Thread Hamit Campos
How do you use yours? Do you still have a card floting around that works? Or is 
there still some luck in getting 1 that will?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Vicky Vaughan
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 6:42 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Memory cards for the old PTRs

Hi, I still use my PTR1 all the time, but it is a bit battered and the push 
button that releases the flash card in its adapter has broken off.

If we could come to terms, I'd gladly buy yours.

This is Vicky Vaughan and my email is
vrvaug...@mailzone.com
and my phone is:
412 600 4379
if you wish to get rid of it.

Sincerely, Vicky



-Original Message-
From: Anders Holmberg
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 5:31 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Memory cards for the old PTRs

Hi!
I got a ptr1 from a friend in 2007 and used it a couple of times but find it 
wasn’t so good.
So its just a dust collector for me too.
I record sometimes with my Iphone and thats ok for voice recording at least.
I wish i had money to buy a better player but there are so many things i want.
/A
> On 12 Sep 2016, at 04:47, Hamit Campos  wrote:
>
> Hi just for grins and giggles I just charged my trusty old PTR1 the other
> day and thought man how sad that this $895 device is just sitting here
> collecting dust and what not. I had a CF card but it didn't like it. Also
> I've discovered in 2013 to my big huge surprise that the PTR2 is still or 
> at
> that point anyways was still being sold. So if any one here has reasontly
> bought 1, how goes it with the CF cards? How you keeping sane with the 
> fact
> that there's no guarantee the card you buy will be loved and adored by it?
> Lol Shame on the Japanese company that made the thing for making it so dam
> limited. Especially considering it was 2006 after all. The Marance PMD 671
> did more card wize then the plextalk. I was like oh are you serious? When 
> I
> saw what that recorder could doo. I listened to the podcast on it on Blind
> Cool Tech. Note it is too hissy for me though but cool none the less. So
> anyways tghat's my phylosifical question for tonight. Just was wandering
> just because you know I have the PTR1 it's well functional as it is 
> anyways
> so it's like dude why not use it? I do have some data CDs but meh I'm not
> gonna make more DAISY CDs. Why bother. How ever a CF card you can re use 
> and
> oh you can also just nabb the MP3s or WAVs off it. So yeah just asking. 
> Just
> wandering what people are doing if indeed the PTR2 is still a thing or 
> hell
> if there are other people that have floter PTR1s like me. I'd use the CDS
> perhaps if they were CDRWs but they aren't. and I don't feel CDs are worth
> waisting money on no moe. Not recordable 1s anyways. Oh yeah I still buy 
> my
> favorite singerw's CDs to get WAV quality in music but that's about all.
> Just a thought. Just something I thought about again as I recharged my
> trusty old friend the Plextalk PTR1.
>







Apple TV, how's it getting on?

2016-09-12 Thread Dane Trethowan

Hi!

I know several list members own an Apple TV 4th gen so I'm curious to 
know how the Apple TV experience is coming along, have there been any 
major updates or changes?


I have an Android Neo box in my ounge which I really love but I am 
thinking of an Apple TV in the Den now where I have my old Samsung 19 
inch TV so can just plug the Apple TV directly into that.






Re: Apple Music Challenges Spotify with Playlists

2016-09-12 Thread Dane Trethowan

That's just too bad! .

On 13/09/2016 3:55 AM, John Gurd wrote:

Oh I just realised, I'm a bit ahead of myself. IOS 10 is released tomorrow,
Tuesday, not today. Looks like I'll have to kerb my excitement for another
24 hours (smiles).

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: 12 September 2016 18:11
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Apple Music Challenges Spotify with Playlists

Hi John,
Apple Music is definitely better in iOS 10. When you try it, I would be
curious how you compare it with Spotify, since that is a service I was
considering until I put the beta on my iPhone and started saying how much
better Apple Music suggestions were for me. They have playlists the change
every day and suggested albums that  change every day.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:06 AM, John Gurd  wrote:

Ah well, Dane, you're making the mistake a lot of people do when you
equate new music with Top 40. Personally, I can't stand Top 40 either,
but I am interested in experimental, alternative and World music that
will never get into the charts, and even very occasionally, jazz and

classical.

In fact I've been considering switching from Apple Music and trying
out Spotify for this reason. I heard a fascinating interview with the
guy in charge of writing music algorithms for Spotify, and they sound
way in advance of Apple's. They are much better at serving up what you
are likely to like as well as old favourites and obscure stuff you
might not have heard. Up to now I've found Apple's offerings very
pedestrian and predictable and they just keep offering more of the
same. An interesting thing about Spotify is that they keep an eye on
listeners who tend to be consistently ahead of the curve in the music
you may be interested in and use their delvings to inform the
algorithms that help you discover new music. So the clever thing is
that it's not just what the big music corporations have decided what

should be in the charts.

Anyway, having heard that Apple seems to be becoming more like Spotify
in the way the app works I'll hold off and try it in IOS 10 before
trying out Spotify.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Mary Otten
Sent: 12 September 2016 02:31
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Apple Music Challenges Spotify with Playlists

Well, I can't speak for Spotify, but one of the nice things about the
newly reorganized Apple Music in iOS 10 is that you get every day,
some albums that it think she will like, based on what it knows about
your listening habits. You also get to view new releases and genres
that it thinks you like, based on what it knows about your listening
habits. I assume Spotify must do something similar in their discovery tab.


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 11, 2016, at 6:27 PM, Dane Trethowan


wrote:

Seems as though Apple Music and Spotify are going to be the big
players in

the Music Subscription business before long.

One thing I'm puzzled about though and perhaps someone can answer
this,

why do Apple Music and Spotify always concentrate on "New Music", most
new music I absolutely despise - I'm not a listener to Top 40 radio
and haven't been for 20 years or more along with a whole heap of otehr
people Im sure - .
http://www.radiotoday.com.au/news/whats-new/9640-apple-music-challenge
s-spot
ify-with-playlists.html









Re: Apple Music Challenges Spotify with Playlists

2016-09-12 Thread Dane Trethowan

Yes you're correct, I made a mistake and just assumed .



On 13/09/2016 3:06 AM, John Gurd wrote:

Ah well, Dane, you're making the mistake a lot of people do when you equate
new music with Top 40. Personally, I can't stand Top 40 either, but I am
interested in experimental, alternative and World music that will never get
into the charts, and even very occasionally, jazz and classical.

In fact I've been considering switching from Apple Music and trying out
Spotify for this reason. I heard a fascinating interview with the guy in
charge of writing music algorithms for Spotify, and they sound way in
advance of Apple's. They are much better at serving up what you are likely
to like as well as old favourites and obscure stuff you might not have
heard. Up to now I've found Apple's offerings very pedestrian and
predictable and they just keep offering more of the same. An interesting
thing about Spotify is that they keep an eye on listeners who tend to be
consistently ahead of the curve in the music you may be interested in and
use their delvings to inform the algorithms that help you discover new
music. So the clever thing is that it's not just what the big music
corporations have decided what should be in the charts.

Anyway, having heard that Apple seems to be becoming more like Spotify in
the way the app works I'll hold off and try it in IOS 10 before trying out
Spotify.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: 12 September 2016 02:31
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Apple Music Challenges Spotify with Playlists

Well, I can't speak for Spotify, but one of the nice things about the newly
reorganized Apple Music in iOS 10 is that you get every day, some albums
that it think she will like, based on what it knows about your listening
habits. You also get to view new releases and genres that it thinks you
like, based on what it knows about your listening habits. I assume Spotify
must do something similar in their discovery tab.


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 11, 2016, at 6:27 PM, Dane Trethowan 

wrote:

Seems as though Apple Music and Spotify are going to be the big players in

the Music Subscription business before long.

One thing I'm puzzled about though and perhaps someone can answer this,

why do Apple Music and Spotify always concentrate on "New Music", most new
music I absolutely despise - I'm not a listener to Top 40 radio and haven't
been for 20 years or more along with a whole heap of otehr people Im sure -
.
http://www.radiotoday.com.au/news/whats-new/9640-apple-music-challenges-spot
ify-with-playlists.html







Re: Daisy Player

2016-09-12 Thread Dane Trethowan

Is that still being produced?



On 13/09/2016 8:15 AM, Norma A. Boge wrote:

Andrea,

Not sure if anyone has yet mentioned the Book Port Plus from American Printing 
House for the Blind. I just ordered my second unit as the headphone jack went 
out on my first unit after 6 years of very heavy use including any number of 
drops onto different surfaces, including concrete. Yes, I'm getting a case this 
time from Executive products. Anyway, at $340 I am impressed with the Book Port 
Plus functionality not to mention excellent recording capability. If you have 
more questions, you may contact me off list at nab...@mchsi.com

HTH
Norma


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andrea Sherry
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:05 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Daisy Player

Thanks for this information. This is exactly what I wanted to know.


On 11/09/2016 10:46 PM, Smiling? wrote:

This is simply just a list of Daisy players that RNIB put together that I 
thought may help whomever of you find informative. there are Desktop players, 
Portable players (which I've copied and pasted below) and Computer software 
players.

Buy a DAISY player from RNIB | RNIB | Supporting people with sight loss:
http://www.rnib.org.uk/services-we-offer-reading-services-rnib-audio-b
ooks-service-talking-books/buy-daisy-player-rnib

Portable players

If you want to fit a large amount of audio content in your pocket the these 
small, lightweight players can be easily carried with you wherever you go. They 
all use SD cards for storage and you will generally need to use a computer in 
order to copy your content to the card. All portable DAISY players have these 
common features:
•play various audio file types - DAISY, MP3 and WAV •listen to text
files read out with the text-to-speech (T T S) software, with a choice
of male and female voices •microphone, speakers and headphone jack

Milestone

The Milestone is the smallest and lightest DAISY player on the market. There 
are three different models but all feature the same simple layout with five 
buttons arranged in a cross with a button in the centre and a mode button on 
the top edge. These tactile keys and simple layout help ensure you hit the 
right button every time.

The Milestone 212 is primarily a book and music player and is one of the 
easiest to use portable players.

The Milestone 312 adds an FM radio, one gigabyte of internal memory, a clock, 
timer and alarm. You can also manage appointments and set reminders by adding 
Milestone Agenda software.

The Milestone 312 Pro adds Speakout which enables you to record voice labels 
for items around your home and office.

You can also use the Milestone to work out what colour something is with the 
optional Milestone Fame colour detector.

Plextalk Pocket (PTP)

Listen to web-based radio stations by using the built-in Wifi to connect to the 
internet. The Plextalk Pocket has a number key pad providing shortcuts to menu 
functions, bookmarks as well as arrow keys for navigation. The ability to 
record in DAISY format makes it perfect for education and work. You can add 
headings during a lecture so you can quickly and easily navigate the audio when 
revising. Available in two colours; black with white buttons and white with 
black buttons.

Plextalk Linio Pocket

The Plextalk Linio Pocket is very similar to the original Plextalk Pocket both 
in design and adds a calendar, alarm and 8GB of internal memroy.

BookSense

The BookSense is compatible with the widest range of formats enabling you to 
listen to content from the widest selection of providers. The BookSense range 
all have FM radio and a dedicated time button. There are three models available 
- BookSense T50, BookSense T50XT and the BookSense DS.

The red BookSense T50 has a number key pad and arrow keys for navigation.

The white BookSense T50XT has the same key layout as the T50 but also has four 
gigabytes of internal memory and Bluetooth so you can listen to your music and 
books using wireless headphones.

The BookSense DS also has Bluetooth and four gigabytes of internal memory but 
also has a high quality OLED screen. Its number key pad has well defined, 
tactile buttons.

Blaze ET & EZ

New Victor Reader Stream

The Victor Reader Stream 2 is roughly the size of a pack of playing cards and 
is the largest of the portable players. Its number key pad has well defined and 
raised tactile buttons.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Andrea Sherry
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:02 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Daisy Player

Need a suggestion for a new player which is not the Victor Reader Stream.

Any suggestions?

Cheers

Andrea



--
Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now and 
make a brand new ending." - Carl Brad







Re: Daisy Player

2016-09-12 Thread Dane Trethowan
A come on now, thsoe saren't Daisy formats, other devices can provide 
that functionality too!


Just because some players provide that extra functionality doesn't mean 
that all players - capable of playing Daisy - do.


I'm a little surprised, I'd expect someone who works for Vision our 
Failure as you do to know better than that .




On 12/09/2016 8:43 PM, Jamie Kelly wrote:

Don't forget daisy players also provide the important function with TTS also 
reading brf, docx and other formats.


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, 12 September 2016 7:41 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Daisy Player

I don’t think anyone suggesting that library’s won’t be around for a long time 
to come and as you say library’s play a very worthwhile part in our community, 
there’s no reason at all why we can’t have library’s running in parallel with 
other systems and obviously the more systems we have at our disposal then the 
more information is available which can only be a good thing.


On 12 Sep 2016, at 4:36 PM, André van Deventer  
wrote:

We must keep in mind that many people especially older folks who lose their 
sight later in life do not sometimes have good internet connections  or have 
the knowledge to utilize online services.  Also they may also have serious 
financial constraints caused by growing older.  fFor those people the libraries 
publishing their audio content in daisy format will be a source for reading 
material for a long time yet.

André

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Andrea Sherry
Sent: 12 September 2016 12:05 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Daisy Player

Thanks for this information. This is exactly what I wanted to know.


On 11/09/2016 10:46 PM, Smiling? wrote:

This is simply just a list of Daisy players that RNIB put together that I 
thought may help whomever of you find informative. there are Desktop players, 
Portable players (which I've copied and pasted below) and Computer software 
players.

Buy a DAISY player from RNIB | RNIB | Supporting people with sight loss:
http://www.rnib.org.uk/services-we-offer-reading-services-rnib-audio-
b ooks-service-talking-books/buy-daisy-player-rnib

Portable players

If you want to fit a large amount of audio content in your pocket the these 
small, lightweight players can be easily carried with you wherever you go. They 
all use SD cards for storage and you will generally need to use a computer in 
order to copy your content to the card. All portable DAISY players have these 
common features:
•play various audio file types - DAISY, MP3 and WAV •listen to text
files read out with the text-to-speech (T T S) software, with a
choice of male and female voices •microphone, speakers and headphone
jack

Milestone

The Milestone is the smallest and lightest DAISY player on the market. There 
are three different models but all feature the same simple layout with five 
buttons arranged in a cross with a button in the centre and a mode button on 
the top edge. These tactile keys and simple layout help ensure you hit the 
right button every time.

The Milestone 212 is primarily a book and music player and is one of the 
easiest to use portable players.

The Milestone 312 adds an FM radio, one gigabyte of internal memory, a clock, 
timer and alarm. You can also manage appointments and set reminders by adding 
Milestone Agenda software.

The Milestone 312 Pro adds Speakout which enables you to record voice labels 
for items around your home and office.

You can also use the Milestone to work out what colour something is with the 
optional Milestone Fame colour detector.

Plextalk Pocket (PTP)

Listen to web-based radio stations by using the built-in Wifi to connect to the 
internet. The Plextalk Pocket has a number key pad providing shortcuts to menu 
functions, bookmarks as well as arrow keys for navigation. The ability to 
record in DAISY format makes it perfect for education and work. You can add 
headings during a lecture so you can quickly and easily navigate the audio when 
revising. Available in two colours; black with white buttons and white with 
black buttons.

Plextalk Linio Pocket

The Plextalk Linio Pocket is very similar to the original Plextalk Pocket both 
in design and adds a calendar, alarm and 8GB of internal memroy.

BookSense

The BookSense is compatible with the widest range of formats enabling you to 
listen to content from the widest selection of providers. The BookSense range 
all have FM radio and a dedicated time button. There are three models available 
- BookSense T50, BookSense T50XT and the BookSense DS.

The red BookSense T50 has a number key pad and arrow keys for navigation.

The white BookSense T50XT has the same key layout as the T50 but also has four 
gigabytes of internal memory and Bluetooth so you can listen to your music and 
books using wireless headph

Re: Recording internet streams on the Iphone.

2016-09-12 Thread Dane Trethowan

Have you tried oOtunes?



On 13/09/2016 2:35 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Since i’ve been both a heavy Iphone and Ipad user i am looking for any program 
that records internet streams.
There’s TuneIn Radio but it wont record a saved show from the swedish Radio nor 
will Vlc.
So are there other options out there for recording from the Internet to the 
Iphone/Ipad.

/A





Re: Memory cards for the old PTRs

2016-09-12 Thread Vicky Vaughan
Hi, I still use my PTR1 all the time, but it is a bit battered and the push 
button that releases the flash card in its adapter has broken off.


If we could come to terms, I'd gladly buy yours.

This is Vicky Vaughan and my email is
vrvaug...@mailzone.com
and my phone is:
412 600 4379
if you wish to get rid of it.

Sincerely, Vicky



-Original Message- 
From: Anders Holmberg

Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 5:31 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Memory cards for the old PTRs

Hi!
I got a ptr1 from a friend in 2007 and used it a couple of times but find it 
wasn’t so good.

So its just a dust collector for me too.
I record sometimes with my Iphone and thats ok for voice recording at least.
I wish i had money to buy a better player but there are so many things i 
want.

/A

On 12 Sep 2016, at 04:47, Hamit Campos  wrote:

Hi just for grins and giggles I just charged my trusty old PTR1 the other
day and thought man how sad that this $895 device is just sitting here
collecting dust and what not. I had a CF card but it didn't like it. Also
I've discovered in 2013 to my big huge surprise that the PTR2 is still or 
at

that point anyways was still being sold. So if any one here has reasontly
bought 1, how goes it with the CF cards? How you keeping sane with the 
fact

that there's no guarantee the card you buy will be loved and adored by it?
Lol Shame on the Japanese company that made the thing for making it so dam
limited. Especially considering it was 2006 after all. The Marance PMD 671
did more card wize then the plextalk. I was like oh are you serious? When 
I

saw what that recorder could doo. I listened to the podcast on it on Blind
Cool Tech. Note it is too hissy for me though but cool none the less. So
anyways tghat's my phylosifical question for tonight. Just was wandering
just because you know I have the PTR1 it's well functional as it is 
anyways

so it's like dude why not use it? I do have some data CDs but meh I'm not
gonna make more DAISY CDs. Why bother. How ever a CF card you can re use 
and
oh you can also just nabb the MP3s or WAVs off it. So yeah just asking. 
Just
wandering what people are doing if indeed the PTR2 is still a thing or 
hell

if there are other people that have floter PTR1s like me. I'd use the CDS
perhaps if they were CDRWs but they aren't. and I don't feel CDs are worth
waisting money on no moe. Not recordable 1s anyways. Oh yeah I still buy 
my

favorite singerw's CDs to get WAV quality in music but that's about all.
Just a thought. Just something I thought about again as I recharged my
trusty old friend the Plextalk PTR1.







RE: Daisy Player

2016-09-12 Thread Norma A. Boge
Andrea,

Not sure if anyone has yet mentioned the Book Port Plus from American Printing 
House for the Blind. I just ordered my second unit as the headphone jack went 
out on my first unit after 6 years of very heavy use including any number of 
drops onto different surfaces, including concrete. Yes, I'm getting a case this 
time from Executive products. Anyway, at $340 I am impressed with the Book Port 
Plus functionality not to mention excellent recording capability. If you have 
more questions, you may contact me off list at nab...@mchsi.com

HTH
Norma


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andrea Sherry
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:05 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Daisy Player

Thanks for this information. This is exactly what I wanted to know.


On 11/09/2016 10:46 PM, Smiling? wrote:
> This is simply just a list of Daisy players that RNIB put together that I 
> thought may help whomever of you find informative. there are Desktop players, 
> Portable players (which I've copied and pasted below) and Computer software 
> players.
>
> Buy a DAISY player from RNIB | RNIB | Supporting people with sight loss:
> http://www.rnib.org.uk/services-we-offer-reading-services-rnib-audio-b
> ooks-service-talking-books/buy-daisy-player-rnib
>
> Portable players
>
> If you want to fit a large amount of audio content in your pocket the these 
> small, lightweight players can be easily carried with you wherever you go. 
> They all use SD cards for storage and you will generally need to use a 
> computer in order to copy your content to the card. All portable DAISY 
> players have these common features:
> •play various audio file types - DAISY, MP3 and WAV •listen to text 
> files read out with the text-to-speech (T T S) software, with a choice 
> of male and female voices •microphone, speakers and headphone jack
>
> Milestone
>
> The Milestone is the smallest and lightest DAISY player on the market. There 
> are three different models but all feature the same simple layout with five 
> buttons arranged in a cross with a button in the centre and a mode button on 
> the top edge. These tactile keys and simple layout help ensure you hit the 
> right button every time.
>
> The Milestone 212 is primarily a book and music player and is one of the 
> easiest to use portable players.
>
> The Milestone 312 adds an FM radio, one gigabyte of internal memory, a clock, 
> timer and alarm. You can also manage appointments and set reminders by adding 
> Milestone Agenda software.
>
> The Milestone 312 Pro adds Speakout which enables you to record voice labels 
> for items around your home and office.
>
> You can also use the Milestone to work out what colour something is with the 
> optional Milestone Fame colour detector.
>
> Plextalk Pocket (PTP)
>
> Listen to web-based radio stations by using the built-in Wifi to connect to 
> the internet. The Plextalk Pocket has a number key pad providing shortcuts to 
> menu functions, bookmarks as well as arrow keys for navigation. The ability 
> to record in DAISY format makes it perfect for education and work. You can 
> add headings during a lecture so you can quickly and easily navigate the 
> audio when revising. Available in two colours; black with white buttons and 
> white with black buttons.
>
> Plextalk Linio Pocket
>
> The Plextalk Linio Pocket is very similar to the original Plextalk Pocket 
> both in design and adds a calendar, alarm and 8GB of internal memroy.
>
> BookSense
>
> The BookSense is compatible with the widest range of formats enabling you to 
> listen to content from the widest selection of providers. The BookSense range 
> all have FM radio and a dedicated time button. There are three models 
> available - BookSense T50, BookSense T50XT and the BookSense DS.
>
> The red BookSense T50 has a number key pad and arrow keys for navigation.
>
> The white BookSense T50XT has the same key layout as the T50 but also has 
> four gigabytes of internal memory and Bluetooth so you can listen to your 
> music and books using wireless headphones.
>
> The BookSense DS also has Bluetooth and four gigabytes of internal memory but 
> also has a high quality OLED screen. Its number key pad has well defined, 
> tactile buttons.
>
> Blaze ET & EZ
>
> New Victor Reader Stream
>
> The Victor Reader Stream 2 is roughly the size of a pack of playing cards and 
> is the largest of the portable players. Its number key pad has well defined 
> and raised tactile buttons.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Andrea Sherry
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:02 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Daisy Player
>
> Need a suggestion for a new player which is not the Victor Reader Stream.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Cheers
>
> Andrea
>
>

--
Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, anyone can start from now 
and make a brand new ending." - C

Re: Vinyl Studio

2016-09-12 Thread Dane Trethowan
One could make a hundred recommendations, no hard and fast rule for this 
sort of thing so here are a few things I believe you should consider.


Turntables have been around for years - good turntables that is - and 
all the names you know and trust when it comes to turntables are still 
going strong, Marantz and so on.


Marantz make a very good turntable for around $600 Australian which is a 
fair price for good turntable gear.


This unit has everything you'll need including a reasonable spec mounted 
cartredge and stylus along with all the adjustments you'll want to make 
to align the turntable.


The Marantz will need to be hooked to a Turntable Amp or Hi-Fi Amp of 
some kind, don't go for a USB Turntable, using a traditional Turntable 
that you can hook to an Amp - preferably a turntable preamp or a Hi-Fi 
amp with a Built-in Preamp - allows you flexibility to get the best 
sound you can from your turntable, you might want to have a few 
headshells with mounted cartredges and stylus's on hand too as different 
setups have different sound characteristics but that's bye the bye for 
the moment.


Obviously with this arrangement you're going to need a reasonable sound 
device for your Computer, I still use the iMic II though I don't know 
whether this can be purchased any more, I bought a dozen of these little 
yoyo looking devices at the time so I have plenty here, anyway I'm sure 
there are plenty of other good Sound Cards out there which will do a 
fantastic job.


Just my two cents worth on the subject.



On 13/09/2016 7:03 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
Sounds really nice as my father which passed on in july this year had a lot of 
vinyl records.
One thing i would like to know is if you can recommend a good vinyl player and 
equipment to connect to the mac?
/A

On 11 Sep 2016, at 20:02, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

I’m using the version of Vinyl Studio for OSX as I write which is also 
incredibly accessible and easy to use, like the Windows version there are tips 
at startup to get you on your way and everything is laid out very clearly in 
the Interface for the App.
The Help system is very comprehensive.


On 12 Sep 2016, at 3:10 AM, Matthew Bullis  wrote:

I'd be curious to know how you like the program, and if it indeed does offer 
those extra vinyl perks. I've been a Sound Forge user for fifteen years, and if 
this Vinyl Studio can detect the pauses between songs and pull track data from 
an online database like Discogs, then this would be great. A lot of my vinyl 
isn't in those cd databases, so if it doesn't link in with Discogs, then 
hopefully there is at least a section to fill out with the artist title and 
year.
Matthew


On Sep 10, 2016, at 10:35 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:

A lot easier to work with I should think if all you're wanting to do is devote 
your time and energy to capturing your Vinyl to a collection and from there? 
Well burn it to CD or just plain collect it for time ever more, makes a lot 
more sense to use something like this rather than Sound Forge, Audacity etc and 
that's where Apps written for a dedicated task stand out from the crowd.




On 11/09/2016 3:30 PM, André van Deventer wrote:
Dane

My initial impressions also seem to be quite good.  I might also fork out the 
necessary money to get the full version.  Dialog boxes and even the menus seem 
to be quite accessible.  Will have to see how the complete things work though 
when recording.  It seems to be very specifically geared towards working with 
vinyl lps.  While you can probably use something like audacity for this 
purpose, chances are that vinyl studio might be a lot easier to work with.



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: 11 September 2016 05:29 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Vinyl Studio

Hi!

I didn't intend trying this App but I'm now very glad I did at least take a 
look, you can find Vinyl Studio at 
http://www.alpinesoft.co.uk/VinylStudio/register.aspx

You can download a free trial of Vinyl Studio or buy a licence for $29 U.S. 
which I beleive to be extremely reasonable given everything the App does.

Yes, the App seems perfectly accessible though I cannot yet vouch for editing 
audio as I've not recorded anything with Vinyl Studio at this point however 
certainly all the dialogue boxes and edit boxes etc I cam across when setting 
up Vinyl Studio were easy to get to.

The real reason I myself wish to give Vinyl Studio a good is because of the 
completeness of the pacakge, anything pretty much to do with capturing your 
Vinyl is handled by Vinyl studio, capturing the vinyl to your computer, 
organising your albums into a collection, proting to CD, getting information 
from CDDB for your captured albums, cleaning up pops and noise  and much more.

Vinyl Studio also has a version available for Mac which I'm very much looking 
forward to trying.




**
Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will

RE: Memory cards for the old PTRs

2016-09-12 Thread Hamit Campos
So do you have a card for it or are you suggesting you never used it at all?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders 
Holmberg
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 5:31 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Memory cards for the old PTRs

Hi!
I got a ptr1 from a friend in 2007 and used it a couple of times but find it 
wasn’t so good.
So its just a dust collector for me too.
I record sometimes with my Iphone and thats ok for voice recording at least.
I wish i had money to buy a better player but there are so many things i want.
/A
> On 12 Sep 2016, at 04:47, Hamit Campos  wrote:
> 
> Hi just for grins and giggles I just charged my trusty old PTR1 the 
> other day and thought man how sad that this $895 device is just 
> sitting here collecting dust and what not. I had a CF card but it 
> didn't like it. Also I've discovered in 2013 to my big huge surprise 
> that the PTR2 is still or at that point anyways was still being sold. 
> So if any one here has reasontly bought 1, how goes it with the CF 
> cards? How you keeping sane with the fact that there's no guarantee the card 
> you buy will be loved and adored by it?
> Lol Shame on the Japanese company that made the thing for making it so 
> dam limited. Especially considering it was 2006 after all. The Marance 
> PMD 671 did more card wize then the plextalk. I was like oh are you 
> serious? When I saw what that recorder could doo. I listened to the 
> podcast on it on Blind Cool Tech. Note it is too hissy for me though 
> but cool none the less. So anyways tghat's my phylosifical question 
> for tonight. Just was wandering just because you know I have the PTR1 
> it's well functional as it is anyways so it's like dude why not use 
> it? I do have some data CDs but meh I'm not gonna make more DAISY CDs. 
> Why bother. How ever a CF card you can re use and oh you can also just 
> nabb the MP3s or WAVs off it. So yeah just asking. Just wandering what 
> people are doing if indeed the PTR2 is still a thing or hell if there 
> are other people that have floter PTR1s like me. I'd use the CDS 
> perhaps if they were CDRWs but they aren't. and I don't feel CDs are 
> worth waisting money on no moe. Not recordable 1s anyways. Oh yeah I still 
> buy my favorite singerw's CDs to get WAV quality in music but that's about 
> all.
> Just a thought. Just something I thought about again as I recharged my 
> trusty old friend the Plextalk PTR1.
> 






RE: Memory cards for the old PTRs

2016-09-12 Thread Hamit Campos
Ah what did you not like about the PTR1? I was really looking for cards in 2011 
for a PTR2 I was hoping to get from a friend but sadly he couldn't find it. 
Yeah the 2 is better in that it can use Stereo mikes. So had Justin been able 
to give me his and had I a card that it liked I'd be using my AT 8022 with it. 
I liked the R1 for what it was but yeah once you discover stereo you want 
everything in stereo. So there's that.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Anders 
Holmberg
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 5:31 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Memory cards for the old PTRs

Hi!
I got a ptr1 from a friend in 2007 and used it a couple of times but find it 
wasn’t so good.
So its just a dust collector for me too.
I record sometimes with my Iphone and thats ok for voice recording at least.
I wish i had money to buy a better player but there are so many things i want.
/A
> On 12 Sep 2016, at 04:47, Hamit Campos  wrote:
> 
> Hi just for grins and giggles I just charged my trusty old PTR1 the 
> other day and thought man how sad that this $895 device is just 
> sitting here collecting dust and what not. I had a CF card but it 
> didn't like it. Also I've discovered in 2013 to my big huge surprise 
> that the PTR2 is still or at that point anyways was still being sold. 
> So if any one here has reasontly bought 1, how goes it with the CF 
> cards? How you keeping sane with the fact that there's no guarantee the card 
> you buy will be loved and adored by it?
> Lol Shame on the Japanese company that made the thing for making it so 
> dam limited. Especially considering it was 2006 after all. The Marance 
> PMD 671 did more card wize then the plextalk. I was like oh are you 
> serious? When I saw what that recorder could doo. I listened to the 
> podcast on it on Blind Cool Tech. Note it is too hissy for me though 
> but cool none the less. So anyways tghat's my phylosifical question 
> for tonight. Just was wandering just because you know I have the PTR1 
> it's well functional as it is anyways so it's like dude why not use 
> it? I do have some data CDs but meh I'm not gonna make more DAISY CDs. 
> Why bother. How ever a CF card you can re use and oh you can also just 
> nabb the MP3s or WAVs off it. So yeah just asking. Just wandering what 
> people are doing if indeed the PTR2 is still a thing or hell if there 
> are other people that have floter PTR1s like me. I'd use the CDS 
> perhaps if they were CDRWs but they aren't. and I don't feel CDs are 
> worth waisting money on no moe. Not recordable 1s anyways. Oh yeah I still 
> buy my favorite singerw's CDs to get WAV quality in music but that's about 
> all.
> Just a thought. Just something I thought about again as I recharged my 
> trusty old friend the Plextalk PTR1.
> 






Re: Memory cards for the old PTRs

2016-09-12 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
I got a ptr1 from a friend in 2007 and used it a couple of times but find it 
wasn’t so good.
So its just a dust collector for me too.
I record sometimes with my Iphone and thats ok for voice recording at least.
I wish i had money to buy a better player but there are so many things i want.
/A
> On 12 Sep 2016, at 04:47, Hamit Campos  wrote:
> 
> Hi just for grins and giggles I just charged my trusty old PTR1 the other
> day and thought man how sad that this $895 device is just sitting here
> collecting dust and what not. I had a CF card but it didn't like it. Also
> I've discovered in 2013 to my big huge surprise that the PTR2 is still or at
> that point anyways was still being sold. So if any one here has reasontly
> bought 1, how goes it with the CF cards? How you keeping sane with the fact
> that there's no guarantee the card you buy will be loved and adored by it?
> Lol Shame on the Japanese company that made the thing for making it so dam
> limited. Especially considering it was 2006 after all. The Marance PMD 671
> did more card wize then the plextalk. I was like oh are you serious? When I
> saw what that recorder could doo. I listened to the podcast on it on Blind
> Cool Tech. Note it is too hissy for me though but cool none the less. So
> anyways tghat's my phylosifical question for tonight. Just was wandering
> just because you know I have the PTR1 it's well functional as it is anyways
> so it's like dude why not use it? I do have some data CDs but meh I'm not
> gonna make more DAISY CDs. Why bother. How ever a CF card you can re use and
> oh you can also just nabb the MP3s or WAVs off it. So yeah just asking. Just
> wandering what people are doing if indeed the PTR2 is still a thing or hell
> if there are other people that have floter PTR1s like me. I'd use the CDS
> perhaps if they were CDRWs but they aren't. and I don't feel CDs are worth
> waisting money on no moe. Not recordable 1s anyways. Oh yeah I still buy my
> favorite singerw's CDs to get WAV quality in music but that's about all.
> Just a thought. Just something I thought about again as I recharged my
> trusty old friend the Plextalk PTR1.
> 




Re: Apple Music Challenges Spotify with Playlists

2016-09-12 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
But apple Music has a lot of oldies too.
There are still some albums i miss on apple music.
Don’t know if they’re on spotify though.
/A
> On 12 Sep 2016, at 03:31, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Well, I can't speak for Spotify, but one of the nice things about the newly 
> reorganized Apple Music in iOS 10 is that you get every day, some albums that 
> it think she will like, based on what it knows about your listening habits. 
> You also get to view new releases and genres that it thinks you like, based 
> on what it knows about your listening habits. I assume Spotify must do 
> something similar in their discovery tab.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 11, 2016, at 6:27 PM, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>> 
>> Seems as though Apple Music and Spotify are going to be the big players in 
>> the Music Subscription business before long.
>> One thing I'm puzzled about though and perhaps someone can answer this, why 
>> do Apple Music and Spotify always concentrate on "New Music", most new music 
>> I absolutely despise - I'm not a listener to Top 40 radio and haven't been 
>> for 20 years or more along with a whole heap of otehr people Im sure - 
>> .
>> http://www.radiotoday.com.au/news/whats-new/9640-apple-music-challenges-spotify-with-playlists.html
>>  
>> 
> 
> 




Re: Vinyl Studio

2016-09-12 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Sounds really nice as my father which passed on in july this year had a lot of 
vinyl records.
One thing i would like to know is if you can recommend a good vinyl player and 
equipment to connect to the mac?
/A
> On 11 Sep 2016, at 20:02, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> I’m using the version of Vinyl Studio for OSX as I write which is also 
> incredibly accessible and easy to use, like the Windows version there are 
> tips at startup to get you on your way and everything is laid out very 
> clearly in the Interface for the App.
> The Help system is very comprehensive.
> 
>> On 12 Sep 2016, at 3:10 AM, Matthew Bullis  wrote:
>> 
>> I'd be curious to know how you like the program, and if it indeed does offer 
>> those extra vinyl perks. I've been a Sound Forge user for fifteen years, and 
>> if this Vinyl Studio can detect the pauses between songs and pull track data 
>> from an online database like Discogs, then this would be great. A lot of my 
>> vinyl isn't in those cd databases, so if it doesn't link in with Discogs, 
>> then hopefully there is at least a section to fill out with the artist title 
>> and year.
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 10, 2016, at 10:35 PM, Dane Trethowan  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> A lot easier to work with I should think if all you're wanting to do is 
>> devote your time and energy to capturing your Vinyl to a collection and from 
>> there? Well burn it to CD or just plain collect it for time ever more, makes 
>> a lot more sense to use something like this rather than Sound Forge, 
>> Audacity etc and that's where Apps written for a dedicated task stand out 
>> from the crowd.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 11/09/2016 3:30 PM, André van Deventer wrote:
>>> Dane
>>> 
>>> My initial impressions also seem to be quite good.  I might also fork out 
>>> the necessary money to get the full version.  Dialog boxes and even the 
>>> menus seem to be quite accessible.  Will have to see how the complete 
>>> things work though when recording.  It seems to be very specifically geared 
>>> towards working with vinyl lps.  While you can probably use something like 
>>> audacity for this purpose, chances are that vinyl studio might be a lot 
>>> easier to work with.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
>>> Trethowan
>>> Sent: 11 September 2016 05:29 AM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Vinyl Studio
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> 
>>> I didn't intend trying this App but I'm now very glad I did at least take a 
>>> look, you can find Vinyl Studio at 
>>> http://www.alpinesoft.co.uk/VinylStudio/register.aspx
>>> 
>>> You can download a free trial of Vinyl Studio or buy a licence for $29 U.S. 
>>> which I beleive to be extremely reasonable given everything the App does.
>>> 
>>> Yes, the App seems perfectly accessible though I cannot yet vouch for 
>>> editing audio as I've not recorded anything with Vinyl Studio at this point 
>>> however certainly all the dialogue boxes and edit boxes etc I cam across 
>>> when setting up Vinyl Studio were easy to get to.
>>> 
>>> The real reason I myself wish to give Vinyl Studio a good is because of the 
>>> completeness of the pacakge, anything pretty much to do with capturing your 
>>> Vinyl is handled by Vinyl studio, capturing the vinyl to your computer, 
>>> organising your albums into a collection, proting to CD, getting 
>>> information from CDDB for your captured albums, cleaning up pops and noise  
>>> and much more.
>>> 
>>> Vinyl Studio also has a version available for Mac which I'm very much 
>>> looking forward to trying.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
> 
> 
> 




Re: Daisy Player

2016-09-12 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
True Dane.
Although i read a lot of daisy books because i simply don’t want to read 
e-books with a tts.
But there are some daisy players out there.
The stream 2 is good but it has some flaws to overcome which i really hope they 
will fix soon.
/A
> On 11 Sep 2016, at 17:38, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> 
> Daisy Players? I haven't used one of those things in a damn long time.
> 
> Now before everyone gets upset I should point out that my view is only a 
> personal one and everyone's circumstances are different.
> 
> I get all my books these days from Apple's iBooks or I buy from Google or 
> Amazon, I wonder where we'd be without those publishing houses, yep they're 
> not perfect as we've discussed here but they do open the doors to a whole 
> heap of information we never had before.
> 
> Daisy titles usually come from library's? That's fine if you like that sort 
> of thing but if I want to read a title that's just come onto the market? Well 
> I frown upon the idea of having to wait 6 months just to read it.
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/09/2016 10:46 PM, Smiling? wrote:
>> This is simply just a list of Daisy players that RNIB put together that I 
>> thought may help whomever of you find informative. there are Desktop 
>> players, Portable players (which I've copied and pasted below) and Computer 
>> software players.
>> 
>> Buy a DAISY player from RNIB | RNIB | Supporting people with sight loss:
>> http://www.rnib.org.uk/services-we-offer-reading-services-rnib-audio-books-service-talking-books/buy-daisy-player-rnib
>> 
>> Portable players
>> 
>> If you want to fit a large amount of audio content in your pocket the these 
>> small, lightweight players can be easily carried with you wherever you go. 
>> They all use SD cards for storage and you will generally need to use a 
>> computer in order to copy your content to the card. All portable DAISY 
>> players have these common features:
>> •play various audio file types - DAISY, MP3 and WAV
>> •listen to text files read out with the text-to-speech (T T S) software, 
>> with a choice of male and female voices
>> •microphone, speakers and headphone jack
>> 
>> Milestone
>> 
>> The Milestone is the smallest and lightest DAISY player on the market. There 
>> are three different models but all feature the same simple layout with five 
>> buttons arranged in a cross with a button in the centre and a mode button on 
>> the top edge. These tactile keys and simple layout help ensure you hit the 
>> right button every time.
>> 
>> The Milestone 212 is primarily a book and music player and is one of the 
>> easiest to use portable players.
>> 
>> The Milestone 312 adds an FM radio, one gigabyte of internal memory, a 
>> clock, timer and alarm. You can also manage appointments and set reminders 
>> by adding Milestone Agenda software.
>> 
>> The Milestone 312 Pro adds Speakout which enables you to record voice labels 
>> for items around your home and office.
>> 
>> You can also use the Milestone to work out what colour something is with the 
>> optional Milestone Fame colour detector.
>> 
>> Plextalk Pocket (PTP)
>> 
>> Listen to web-based radio stations by using the built-in Wifi to connect to 
>> the internet. The Plextalk Pocket has a number key pad providing shortcuts 
>> to menu functions, bookmarks as well as arrow keys for navigation. The 
>> ability to record in DAISY format makes it perfect for education and work. 
>> You can add headings during a lecture so you can quickly and easily navigate 
>> the audio when revising. Available in two colours; black with white buttons 
>> and white with black buttons.
>> 
>> Plextalk Linio Pocket
>> 
>> The Plextalk Linio Pocket is very similar to the original Plextalk Pocket 
>> both in design and adds a calendar, alarm and 8GB of internal memroy.
>> 
>> BookSense
>> 
>> The BookSense is compatible with the widest range of formats enabling you to 
>> listen to content from the widest selection of providers. The BookSense 
>> range all have FM radio and a dedicated time button. There are three models 
>> available - BookSense T50, BookSense T50XT and the BookSense DS.
>> 
>> The red BookSense T50 has a number key pad and arrow keys for navigation.
>> 
>> The white BookSense T50XT has the same key layout as the T50 but also has 
>> four gigabytes of internal memory and Bluetooth so you can listen to your 
>> music and books using wireless headphones.
>> 
>> The BookSense DS also has Bluetooth and four gigabytes of internal memory 
>> but also has a high quality OLED screen. Its number key pad has well 
>> defined, tactile buttons.
>> 
>> Blaze ET & EZ
>> 
>> New Victor Reader Stream
>> 
>> The Victor Reader Stream 2 is roughly the size of a pack of playing cards 
>> and is the largest of the portable players. Its number key pad has well 
>> defined and raised tactile buttons.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andrea 
>> Sherry
>> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 5:

RE: Apple Music Challenges Spotify with Playlists

2016-09-12 Thread John Gurd
Oh I just realised, I'm a bit ahead of myself. IOS 10 is released tomorrow,
Tuesday, not today. Looks like I'll have to kerb my excitement for another
24 hours (smiles).

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: 12 September 2016 18:11
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Apple Music Challenges Spotify with Playlists

Hi John,
Apple Music is definitely better in iOS 10. When you try it, I would be
curious how you compare it with Spotify, since that is a service I was
considering until I put the beta on my iPhone and started saying how much
better Apple Music suggestions were for me. They have playlists the change
every day and suggested albums that  change every day.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:06 AM, John Gurd  wrote:
> 
> Ah well, Dane, you're making the mistake a lot of people do when you 
> equate new music with Top 40. Personally, I can't stand Top 40 either, 
> but I am interested in experimental, alternative and World music that 
> will never get into the charts, and even very occasionally, jazz and
classical.
> 
> In fact I've been considering switching from Apple Music and trying 
> out Spotify for this reason. I heard a fascinating interview with the 
> guy in charge of writing music algorithms for Spotify, and they sound 
> way in advance of Apple's. They are much better at serving up what you 
> are likely to like as well as old favourites and obscure stuff you 
> might not have heard. Up to now I've found Apple's offerings very 
> pedestrian and predictable and they just keep offering more of the 
> same. An interesting thing about Spotify is that they keep an eye on 
> listeners who tend to be consistently ahead of the curve in the music 
> you may be interested in and use their delvings to inform the 
> algorithms that help you discover new music. So the clever thing is 
> that it's not just what the big music corporations have decided what
should be in the charts.
> 
> Anyway, having heard that Apple seems to be becoming more like Spotify 
> in the way the app works I'll hold off and try it in IOS 10 before 
> trying out Spotify.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: 12 September 2016 02:31
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Challenges Spotify with Playlists
> 
> Well, I can't speak for Spotify, but one of the nice things about the 
> newly reorganized Apple Music in iOS 10 is that you get every day, 
> some albums that it think she will like, based on what it knows about 
> your listening habits. You also get to view new releases and genres 
> that it thinks you like, based on what it knows about your listening 
> habits. I assume Spotify must do something similar in their discovery tab.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 11, 2016, at 6:27 PM, Dane Trethowan 
>> 
> wrote:
>> 
>> Seems as though Apple Music and Spotify are going to be the big 
>> players in
> the Music Subscription business before long.
>> One thing I'm puzzled about though and perhaps someone can answer 
>> this,
> why do Apple Music and Spotify always concentrate on "New Music", most 
> new music I absolutely despise - I'm not a listener to Top 40 radio 
> and haven't been for 20 years or more along with a whole heap of otehr 
> people Im sure - .
>> 
> http://www.radiotoday.com.au/news/whats-new/9640-apple-music-challenge
> s-spot
> ify-with-playlists.html
>> 
> 
> 
> 




Re: Apple Music Challenges Spotify with Playlists

2016-09-12 Thread Mary Otten
Hi John,
I am running the beta. Yes, there are bugs. Maybe not as many as there have 
been in previous first releases.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:46 AM, John Gurd  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Mary, that's encouraging. I think I'll go see if the official IOS 10
> is available. The IOS release  usually appears here in the UK around 6pm.
> Mind you, there are bound to be at least a few Voice Over bugs and it can be
> frustrating when they take months to fix.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
> Otten
> Sent: 12 September 2016 18:11
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Challenges Spotify with Playlists
> 
> Hi John,
> Apple Music is definitely better in iOS 10. When you try it, I would be
> curious how you compare it with Spotify, since that is a service I was
> considering until I put the beta on my iPhone and started saying how much
> better Apple Music suggestions were for me. They have playlists the change
> every day and suggested albums that  change every day.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:06 AM, John Gurd  wrote:
>> 
>> Ah well, Dane, you're making the mistake a lot of people do when you 
>> equate new music with Top 40. Personally, I can't stand Top 40 either, 
>> but I am interested in experimental, alternative and World music that 
>> will never get into the charts, and even very occasionally, jazz and
> classical.
>> 
>> In fact I've been considering switching from Apple Music and trying 
>> out Spotify for this reason. I heard a fascinating interview with the 
>> guy in charge of writing music algorithms for Spotify, and they sound 
>> way in advance of Apple's. They are much better at serving up what you 
>> are likely to like as well as old favourites and obscure stuff you 
>> might not have heard. Up to now I've found Apple's offerings very 
>> pedestrian and predictable and they just keep offering more of the 
>> same. An interesting thing about Spotify is that they keep an eye on 
>> listeners who tend to be consistently ahead of the curve in the music 
>> you may be interested in and use their delvings to inform the 
>> algorithms that help you discover new music. So the clever thing is 
>> that it's not just what the big music corporations have decided what
> should be in the charts.
>> 
>> Anyway, having heard that Apple seems to be becoming more like Spotify 
>> in the way the app works I'll hold off and try it in IOS 10 before 
>> trying out Spotify.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Mary Otten
>> Sent: 12 September 2016 02:31
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Apple Music Challenges Spotify with Playlists
>> 
>> Well, I can't speak for Spotify, but one of the nice things about the 
>> newly reorganized Apple Music in iOS 10 is that you get every day, 
>> some albums that it think she will like, based on what it knows about 
>> your listening habits. You also get to view new releases and genres 
>> that it thinks you like, based on what it knows about your listening 
>> habits. I assume Spotify must do something similar in their discovery tab.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 11, 2016, at 6:27 PM, Dane Trethowan 
>>> 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Seems as though Apple Music and Spotify are going to be the big 
>>> players in
>> the Music Subscription business before long.
>>> One thing I'm puzzled about though and perhaps someone can answer 
>>> this,
>> why do Apple Music and Spotify always concentrate on "New Music", most 
>> new music I absolutely despise - I'm not a listener to Top 40 radio 
>> and haven't been for 20 years or more along with a whole heap of otehr 
>> people Im sure - .
>>> 
>> http://www.radiotoday.com.au/news/whats-new/9640-apple-music-challenge
>> s-spot
>> ify-with-playlists.html
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 


RE: Apple Music Challenges Spotify with Playlists

2016-09-12 Thread John Gurd
Thanks Mary, that's encouraging. I think I'll go see if the official IOS 10
is available. The IOS release  usually appears here in the UK around 6pm.
Mind you, there are bound to be at least a few Voice Over bugs and it can be
frustrating when they take months to fix.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: 12 September 2016 18:11
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Apple Music Challenges Spotify with Playlists

Hi John,
Apple Music is definitely better in iOS 10. When you try it, I would be
curious how you compare it with Spotify, since that is a service I was
considering until I put the beta on my iPhone and started saying how much
better Apple Music suggestions were for me. They have playlists the change
every day and suggested albums that  change every day.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:06 AM, John Gurd  wrote:
> 
> Ah well, Dane, you're making the mistake a lot of people do when you 
> equate new music with Top 40. Personally, I can't stand Top 40 either, 
> but I am interested in experimental, alternative and World music that 
> will never get into the charts, and even very occasionally, jazz and
classical.
> 
> In fact I've been considering switching from Apple Music and trying 
> out Spotify for this reason. I heard a fascinating interview with the 
> guy in charge of writing music algorithms for Spotify, and they sound 
> way in advance of Apple's. They are much better at serving up what you 
> are likely to like as well as old favourites and obscure stuff you 
> might not have heard. Up to now I've found Apple's offerings very 
> pedestrian and predictable and they just keep offering more of the 
> same. An interesting thing about Spotify is that they keep an eye on 
> listeners who tend to be consistently ahead of the curve in the music 
> you may be interested in and use their delvings to inform the 
> algorithms that help you discover new music. So the clever thing is 
> that it's not just what the big music corporations have decided what
should be in the charts.
> 
> Anyway, having heard that Apple seems to be becoming more like Spotify 
> in the way the app works I'll hold off and try it in IOS 10 before 
> trying out Spotify.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: 12 September 2016 02:31
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Challenges Spotify with Playlists
> 
> Well, I can't speak for Spotify, but one of the nice things about the 
> newly reorganized Apple Music in iOS 10 is that you get every day, 
> some albums that it think she will like, based on what it knows about 
> your listening habits. You also get to view new releases and genres 
> that it thinks you like, based on what it knows about your listening 
> habits. I assume Spotify must do something similar in their discovery tab.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 11, 2016, at 6:27 PM, Dane Trethowan 
>> 
> wrote:
>> 
>> Seems as though Apple Music and Spotify are going to be the big 
>> players in
> the Music Subscription business before long.
>> One thing I'm puzzled about though and perhaps someone can answer 
>> this,
> why do Apple Music and Spotify always concentrate on "New Music", most 
> new music I absolutely despise - I'm not a listener to Top 40 radio 
> and haven't been for 20 years or more along with a whole heap of otehr 
> people Im sure - .
>> 
> http://www.radiotoday.com.au/news/whats-new/9640-apple-music-challenge
> s-spot
> ify-with-playlists.html
>> 
> 
> 
> 




Re: Apple Music Challenges Spotify with Playlists

2016-09-12 Thread Mary Otten
Hi John,
Apple Music is definitely better in iOS 10. When you try it, I would be curious 
how you compare it with Spotify, since that is a service I was considering 
until I put the beta on my iPhone and started saying how much better Apple 
Music suggestions were for me. They have playlists the change every day and 
suggested albums that  change every day.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:06 AM, John Gurd  wrote:
> 
> Ah well, Dane, you're making the mistake a lot of people do when you equate
> new music with Top 40. Personally, I can't stand Top 40 either, but I am
> interested in experimental, alternative and World music that will never get
> into the charts, and even very occasionally, jazz and classical. 
> 
> In fact I've been considering switching from Apple Music and trying out
> Spotify for this reason. I heard a fascinating interview with the guy in
> charge of writing music algorithms for Spotify, and they sound way in
> advance of Apple's. They are much better at serving up what you are likely
> to like as well as old favourites and obscure stuff you might not have
> heard. Up to now I've found Apple's offerings very pedestrian and
> predictable and they just keep offering more of the same. An interesting
> thing about Spotify is that they keep an eye on listeners who tend to be
> consistently ahead of the curve in the music you may be interested in and
> use their delvings to inform the algorithms that help you discover new
> music. So the clever thing is that it's not just what the big music
> corporations have decided what should be in the charts.
> 
> Anyway, having heard that Apple seems to be becoming more like Spotify in
> the way the app works I'll hold off and try it in IOS 10 before trying out
> Spotify. 
> 
> John
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
> Otten
> Sent: 12 September 2016 02:31
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Apple Music Challenges Spotify with Playlists
> 
> Well, I can't speak for Spotify, but one of the nice things about the newly
> reorganized Apple Music in iOS 10 is that you get every day, some albums
> that it think she will like, based on what it knows about your listening
> habits. You also get to view new releases and genres that it thinks you
> like, based on what it knows about your listening habits. I assume Spotify
> must do something similar in their discovery tab.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 11, 2016, at 6:27 PM, Dane Trethowan 
> wrote:
>> 
>> Seems as though Apple Music and Spotify are going to be the big players in
> the Music Subscription business before long.
>> One thing I'm puzzled about though and perhaps someone can answer this,
> why do Apple Music and Spotify always concentrate on "New Music", most new
> music I absolutely despise - I'm not a listener to Top 40 radio and haven't
> been for 20 years or more along with a whole heap of otehr people Im sure -
> .
>> 
> http://www.radiotoday.com.au/news/whats-new/9640-apple-music-challenges-spot
> ify-with-playlists.html 
>> 
> 
> 
> 


RE: Apple Music Challenges Spotify with Playlists

2016-09-12 Thread John Gurd
Ah well, Dane, you're making the mistake a lot of people do when you equate
new music with Top 40. Personally, I can't stand Top 40 either, but I am
interested in experimental, alternative and World music that will never get
into the charts, and even very occasionally, jazz and classical. 

In fact I've been considering switching from Apple Music and trying out
Spotify for this reason. I heard a fascinating interview with the guy in
charge of writing music algorithms for Spotify, and they sound way in
advance of Apple's. They are much better at serving up what you are likely
to like as well as old favourites and obscure stuff you might not have
heard. Up to now I've found Apple's offerings very pedestrian and
predictable and they just keep offering more of the same. An interesting
thing about Spotify is that they keep an eye on listeners who tend to be
consistently ahead of the curve in the music you may be interested in and
use their delvings to inform the algorithms that help you discover new
music. So the clever thing is that it's not just what the big music
corporations have decided what should be in the charts.

Anyway, having heard that Apple seems to be becoming more like Spotify in
the way the app works I'll hold off and try it in IOS 10 before trying out
Spotify. 

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: 12 September 2016 02:31
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Apple Music Challenges Spotify with Playlists

Well, I can't speak for Spotify, but one of the nice things about the newly
reorganized Apple Music in iOS 10 is that you get every day, some albums
that it think she will like, based on what it knows about your listening
habits. You also get to view new releases and genres that it thinks you
like, based on what it knows about your listening habits. I assume Spotify
must do something similar in their discovery tab.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 11, 2016, at 6:27 PM, Dane Trethowan 
wrote:
> 
> Seems as though Apple Music and Spotify are going to be the big players in
the Music Subscription business before long.
> One thing I'm puzzled about though and perhaps someone can answer this,
why do Apple Music and Spotify always concentrate on "New Music", most new
music I absolutely despise - I'm not a listener to Top 40 radio and haven't
been for 20 years or more along with a whole heap of otehr people Im sure -
.
>
http://www.radiotoday.com.au/news/whats-new/9640-apple-music-challenges-spot
ify-with-playlists.html 
> 





Recording internet streams on the Iphone.

2016-09-12 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!
Since i’ve been both a heavy Iphone and Ipad user i am looking for any program 
that records internet streams.
There’s TuneIn Radio but it wont record a saved show from the swedish Radio nor 
will Vlc.
So are there other options out there for recording from the Internet to the 
Iphone/Ipad.

/A


RE: Daisy Player

2016-09-12 Thread Jamie Kelly
Don't forget daisy players also provide the important function with TTS also 
reading brf, docx and other formats.


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, 12 September 2016 7:41 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Daisy Player

I don’t think anyone suggesting that library’s won’t be around for a long time 
to come and as you say library’s play a very worthwhile part in our community, 
there’s no reason at all why we can’t have library’s running in parallel with 
other systems and obviously the more systems we have at our disposal then the 
more information is available which can only be a good thing.

> On 12 Sep 2016, at 4:36 PM, André van Deventer  
> wrote:
>
> We must keep in mind that many people especially older folks who lose their 
> sight later in life do not sometimes have good internet connections  or have 
> the knowledge to utilize online services.  Also they may also have serious 
> financial constraints caused by growing older.  fFor those people the 
> libraries publishing their audio content in daisy format will be a source for 
> reading material for a long time yet.
>
> André
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
> Andrea Sherry
> Sent: 12 September 2016 12:05 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Daisy Player
>
> Thanks for this information. This is exactly what I wanted to know.
>
>
> On 11/09/2016 10:46 PM, Smiling? wrote:
>> This is simply just a list of Daisy players that RNIB put together that I 
>> thought may help whomever of you find informative. there are Desktop 
>> players, Portable players (which I've copied and pasted below) and Computer 
>> software players.
>>
>> Buy a DAISY player from RNIB | RNIB | Supporting people with sight loss:
>> http://www.rnib.org.uk/services-we-offer-reading-services-rnib-audio-
>> b ooks-service-talking-books/buy-daisy-player-rnib
>>
>> Portable players
>>
>> If you want to fit a large amount of audio content in your pocket the these 
>> small, lightweight players can be easily carried with you wherever you go. 
>> They all use SD cards for storage and you will generally need to use a 
>> computer in order to copy your content to the card. All portable DAISY 
>> players have these common features:
>> •play various audio file types - DAISY, MP3 and WAV •listen to text
>> files read out with the text-to-speech (T T S) software, with a
>> choice of male and female voices •microphone, speakers and headphone
>> jack
>>
>> Milestone
>>
>> The Milestone is the smallest and lightest DAISY player on the market. There 
>> are three different models but all feature the same simple layout with five 
>> buttons arranged in a cross with a button in the centre and a mode button on 
>> the top edge. These tactile keys and simple layout help ensure you hit the 
>> right button every time.
>>
>> The Milestone 212 is primarily a book and music player and is one of the 
>> easiest to use portable players.
>>
>> The Milestone 312 adds an FM radio, one gigabyte of internal memory, a 
>> clock, timer and alarm. You can also manage appointments and set reminders 
>> by adding Milestone Agenda software.
>>
>> The Milestone 312 Pro adds Speakout which enables you to record voice labels 
>> for items around your home and office.
>>
>> You can also use the Milestone to work out what colour something is with the 
>> optional Milestone Fame colour detector.
>>
>> Plextalk Pocket (PTP)
>>
>> Listen to web-based radio stations by using the built-in Wifi to connect to 
>> the internet. The Plextalk Pocket has a number key pad providing shortcuts 
>> to menu functions, bookmarks as well as arrow keys for navigation. The 
>> ability to record in DAISY format makes it perfect for education and work. 
>> You can add headings during a lecture so you can quickly and easily navigate 
>> the audio when revising. Available in two colours; black with white buttons 
>> and white with black buttons.
>>
>> Plextalk Linio Pocket
>>
>> The Plextalk Linio Pocket is very similar to the original Plextalk Pocket 
>> both in design and adds a calendar, alarm and 8GB of internal memroy.
>>
>> BookSense
>>
>> The BookSense is compatible with the widest range of formats enabling you to 
>> listen to content from the widest selection of providers. The BookSense 
>> range all have FM radio and a dedicated time button. There are three models 
>> available - BookSense T50, BookSense T50XT and the BookSense DS.
>>
>> The red BookSense T50 has a number key pad and arrow keys for navigation.
>>
>> The white BookSense T50XT has the same key layout as the T50 but also has 
>> four gigabytes of internal memory and Bluetooth so you can listen to your 
>> music and books using wireless headphones.
>>
>> The BookSense DS also has Bluetooth and four gigabytes of internal memory 
>> but also has a high quality OLED screen. Its number key pad has w

Re: Daisy Player

2016-09-12 Thread Aidan
I'm sorry to say but although the stream is good the new model
hardware is not so good.

On 12/09/2016, Aidan  wrote:
> Well, because of price issues, I think if you don't need advanced
> options the milestone seems great and should be a bit cheaper than the
> rest. A pity they don't cell it here. But in the US irti do cell them.
> They seem smaller and seem very stable. They have a little more
> flexibility than the other players as many settings are stored in
> files such as .ini files wich you can change. You can choose your
> startup sound among other things that way.
>
> On 12/09/2016, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>> I don’t think anyone suggesting that library’s won’t be around for a long
>> time to come and as you say library’s play a very worthwhile part in our
>> community, there’s no reason at all why we can’t have library’s running
>> in
>> parallel with other systems and obviously the more systems we have at our
>> disposal then the more information is available which can only be a good
>> thing.
>>
>>> On 12 Sep 2016, at 4:36 PM, André van Deventer
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> We must keep in mind that many people especially older folks who lose
>>> their sight later in life do not sometimes have good internet
>>> connections
>>> or have the knowledge to utilize online services.  Also they may also
>>> have
>>> serious financial constraints caused by growing older.  fFor those
>>> people
>>> the libraries publishing their audio content in daisy format will be a
>>> source for reading material for a long time yet.
>>>
>>> André
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
>>> Andrea
>>> Sherry
>>> Sent: 12 September 2016 12:05 AM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Re: Daisy Player
>>>
>>> Thanks for this information. This is exactly what I wanted to know.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/09/2016 10:46 PM, Smiling? wrote:
 This is simply just a list of Daisy players that RNIB put together that
 I
 thought may help whomever of you find informative. there are Desktop
 players, Portable players (which I've copied and pasted below) and
 Computer software players.

 Buy a DAISY player from RNIB | RNIB | Supporting people with sight
 loss:
 http://www.rnib.org.uk/services-we-offer-reading-services-rnib-audio-b
 ooks-service-talking-books/buy-daisy-player-rnib

 Portable players

 If you want to fit a large amount of audio content in your pocket the
 these small, lightweight players can be easily carried with you
 wherever
 you go. They all use SD cards for storage and you will generally need
 to
 use a computer in order to copy your content to the card. All portable
 DAISY players have these common features:
 •play various audio file types - DAISY, MP3 and WAV •listen to text
 files read out with the text-to-speech (T T S) software, with a choice
 of male and female voices •microphone, speakers and headphone jack

 Milestone

 The Milestone is the smallest and lightest DAISY player on the market.
 There are three different models but all feature the same simple layout
 with five buttons arranged in a cross with a button in the centre and a
 mode button on the top edge. These tactile keys and simple layout help
 ensure you hit the right button every time.

 The Milestone 212 is primarily a book and music player and is one of
 the
 easiest to use portable players.

 The Milestone 312 adds an FM radio, one gigabyte of internal memory, a
 clock, timer and alarm. You can also manage appointments and set
 reminders by adding Milestone Agenda software.

 The Milestone 312 Pro adds Speakout which enables you to record voice
 labels for items around your home and office.

 You can also use the Milestone to work out what colour something is
 with
 the optional Milestone Fame colour detector.

 Plextalk Pocket (PTP)

 Listen to web-based radio stations by using the built-in Wifi to
 connect
 to the internet. The Plextalk Pocket has a number key pad providing
 shortcuts to menu functions, bookmarks as well as arrow keys for
 navigation. The ability to record in DAISY format makes it perfect for
 education and work. You can add headings during a lecture so you can
 quickly and easily navigate the audio when revising. Available in two
 colours; black with white buttons and white with black buttons.

 Plextalk Linio Pocket

 The Plextalk Linio Pocket is very similar to the original Plextalk
 Pocket
 both in design and adds a calendar, alarm and 8GB of internal memroy.

 BookSense

 The BookSense is compatible with the widest range of formats enabling
 you
 to listen to content from the widest selection of providers. The
 BookSense range all have FM radio and a dedicated time button. There
 are
>>

Re: Daisy Player

2016-09-12 Thread Aidan
Well, because of price issues, I think if you don't need advanced
options the milestone seems great and should be a bit cheaper than the
rest. A pity they don't cell it here. But in the US irti do cell them.
They seem smaller and seem very stable. They have a little more
flexibility than the other players as many settings are stored in
files such as .ini files wich you can change. You can choose your
startup sound among other things that way.

On 12/09/2016, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> I don’t think anyone suggesting that library’s won’t be around for a long
> time to come and as you say library’s play a very worthwhile part in our
> community, there’s no reason at all why we can’t have library’s running in
> parallel with other systems and obviously the more systems we have at our
> disposal then the more information is available which can only be a good
> thing.
>
>> On 12 Sep 2016, at 4:36 PM, André van Deventer
>>  wrote:
>>
>> We must keep in mind that many people especially older folks who lose
>> their sight later in life do not sometimes have good internet connections
>> or have the knowledge to utilize online services.  Also they may also have
>> serious financial constraints caused by growing older.  fFor those people
>> the libraries publishing their audio content in daisy format will be a
>> source for reading material for a long time yet.
>>
>> André
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andrea
>> Sherry
>> Sent: 12 September 2016 12:05 AM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: Daisy Player
>>
>> Thanks for this information. This is exactly what I wanted to know.
>>
>>
>> On 11/09/2016 10:46 PM, Smiling? wrote:
>>> This is simply just a list of Daisy players that RNIB put together that I
>>> thought may help whomever of you find informative. there are Desktop
>>> players, Portable players (which I've copied and pasted below) and
>>> Computer software players.
>>>
>>> Buy a DAISY player from RNIB | RNIB | Supporting people with sight loss:
>>> http://www.rnib.org.uk/services-we-offer-reading-services-rnib-audio-b
>>> ooks-service-talking-books/buy-daisy-player-rnib
>>>
>>> Portable players
>>>
>>> If you want to fit a large amount of audio content in your pocket the
>>> these small, lightweight players can be easily carried with you wherever
>>> you go. They all use SD cards for storage and you will generally need to
>>> use a computer in order to copy your content to the card. All portable
>>> DAISY players have these common features:
>>> •play various audio file types - DAISY, MP3 and WAV •listen to text
>>> files read out with the text-to-speech (T T S) software, with a choice
>>> of male and female voices •microphone, speakers and headphone jack
>>>
>>> Milestone
>>>
>>> The Milestone is the smallest and lightest DAISY player on the market.
>>> There are three different models but all feature the same simple layout
>>> with five buttons arranged in a cross with a button in the centre and a
>>> mode button on the top edge. These tactile keys and simple layout help
>>> ensure you hit the right button every time.
>>>
>>> The Milestone 212 is primarily a book and music player and is one of the
>>> easiest to use portable players.
>>>
>>> The Milestone 312 adds an FM radio, one gigabyte of internal memory, a
>>> clock, timer and alarm. You can also manage appointments and set
>>> reminders by adding Milestone Agenda software.
>>>
>>> The Milestone 312 Pro adds Speakout which enables you to record voice
>>> labels for items around your home and office.
>>>
>>> You can also use the Milestone to work out what colour something is with
>>> the optional Milestone Fame colour detector.
>>>
>>> Plextalk Pocket (PTP)
>>>
>>> Listen to web-based radio stations by using the built-in Wifi to connect
>>> to the internet. The Plextalk Pocket has a number key pad providing
>>> shortcuts to menu functions, bookmarks as well as arrow keys for
>>> navigation. The ability to record in DAISY format makes it perfect for
>>> education and work. You can add headings during a lecture so you can
>>> quickly and easily navigate the audio when revising. Available in two
>>> colours; black with white buttons and white with black buttons.
>>>
>>> Plextalk Linio Pocket
>>>
>>> The Plextalk Linio Pocket is very similar to the original Plextalk Pocket
>>> both in design and adds a calendar, alarm and 8GB of internal memroy.
>>>
>>> BookSense
>>>
>>> The BookSense is compatible with the widest range of formats enabling you
>>> to listen to content from the widest selection of providers. The
>>> BookSense range all have FM radio and a dedicated time button. There are
>>> three models available - BookSense T50, BookSense T50XT and the BookSense
>>> DS.
>>>
>>> The red BookSense T50 has a number key pad and arrow keys for
>>> navigation.
>>>
>>> The white BookSense T50XT has the same key layout as the T50 but also has
>>> four gigabytes of internal memory and B

Re: Daisy Player

2016-09-12 Thread Dane Trethowan
I don’t think anyone suggesting that library’s won’t be around for a long time 
to come and as you say library’s play a very worthwhile part in our community, 
there’s no reason at all why we can’t have library’s running in parallel with 
other systems and obviously the more systems we have at our disposal then the 
more information is available which can only be a good thing.

> On 12 Sep 2016, at 4:36 PM, André van Deventer  
> wrote:
> 
> We must keep in mind that many people especially older folks who lose their 
> sight later in life do not sometimes have good internet connections  or have 
> the knowledge to utilize online services.  Also they may also have serious 
> financial constraints caused by growing older.  fFor those people the 
> libraries publishing their audio content in daisy format will be a source for 
> reading material for a long time yet.
> 
> André
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andrea 
> Sherry
> Sent: 12 September 2016 12:05 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List
> Subject: Re: Daisy Player
> 
> Thanks for this information. This is exactly what I wanted to know.
> 
> 
> On 11/09/2016 10:46 PM, Smiling? wrote:
>> This is simply just a list of Daisy players that RNIB put together that I 
>> thought may help whomever of you find informative. there are Desktop 
>> players, Portable players (which I've copied and pasted below) and Computer 
>> software players.
>> 
>> Buy a DAISY player from RNIB | RNIB | Supporting people with sight loss:
>> http://www.rnib.org.uk/services-we-offer-reading-services-rnib-audio-b
>> ooks-service-talking-books/buy-daisy-player-rnib
>> 
>> Portable players
>> 
>> If you want to fit a large amount of audio content in your pocket the these 
>> small, lightweight players can be easily carried with you wherever you go. 
>> They all use SD cards for storage and you will generally need to use a 
>> computer in order to copy your content to the card. All portable DAISY 
>> players have these common features:
>> •play various audio file types - DAISY, MP3 and WAV •listen to text 
>> files read out with the text-to-speech (T T S) software, with a choice 
>> of male and female voices •microphone, speakers and headphone jack
>> 
>> Milestone
>> 
>> The Milestone is the smallest and lightest DAISY player on the market. There 
>> are three different models but all feature the same simple layout with five 
>> buttons arranged in a cross with a button in the centre and a mode button on 
>> the top edge. These tactile keys and simple layout help ensure you hit the 
>> right button every time.
>> 
>> The Milestone 212 is primarily a book and music player and is one of the 
>> easiest to use portable players.
>> 
>> The Milestone 312 adds an FM radio, one gigabyte of internal memory, a 
>> clock, timer and alarm. You can also manage appointments and set reminders 
>> by adding Milestone Agenda software.
>> 
>> The Milestone 312 Pro adds Speakout which enables you to record voice labels 
>> for items around your home and office.
>> 
>> You can also use the Milestone to work out what colour something is with the 
>> optional Milestone Fame colour detector.
>> 
>> Plextalk Pocket (PTP)
>> 
>> Listen to web-based radio stations by using the built-in Wifi to connect to 
>> the internet. The Plextalk Pocket has a number key pad providing shortcuts 
>> to menu functions, bookmarks as well as arrow keys for navigation. The 
>> ability to record in DAISY format makes it perfect for education and work. 
>> You can add headings during a lecture so you can quickly and easily navigate 
>> the audio when revising. Available in two colours; black with white buttons 
>> and white with black buttons.
>> 
>> Plextalk Linio Pocket
>> 
>> The Plextalk Linio Pocket is very similar to the original Plextalk Pocket 
>> both in design and adds a calendar, alarm and 8GB of internal memroy.
>> 
>> BookSense
>> 
>> The BookSense is compatible with the widest range of formats enabling you to 
>> listen to content from the widest selection of providers. The BookSense 
>> range all have FM radio and a dedicated time button. There are three models 
>> available - BookSense T50, BookSense T50XT and the BookSense DS.
>> 
>> The red BookSense T50 has a number key pad and arrow keys for navigation.
>> 
>> The white BookSense T50XT has the same key layout as the T50 but also has 
>> four gigabytes of internal memory and Bluetooth so you can listen to your 
>> music and books using wireless headphones.
>> 
>> The BookSense DS also has Bluetooth and four gigabytes of internal memory 
>> but also has a high quality OLED screen. Its number key pad has well 
>> defined, tactile buttons.
>> 
>> Blaze ET & EZ
>> 
>> New Victor Reader Stream
>> 
>> The Victor Reader Stream 2 is roughly the size of a pack of playing cards 
>> and is the largest of the portable players. Its number key pad has well 
>> defined and raised tactile buttons.
>> 
>> -Origi