Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
Yep, works well and they fixed the windows 10 bug they had. On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 21:32:11 -0500, Dean Martineau wrote: > > Does background recording work in Total Recorder in Windows 10? That > program used to work remarkably well in XP but I haven't had much success > with it since and haven't used it much as a result. > > Dean > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of John > Covici > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:53 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder > > There are certain limitations for this -- I use it all the time, but > it won't work on some streams like anything that uses flash, and it > doesn't work on youtube links. > > On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:09:09 -0500, > Dane Trethowan wrote: > > > > As far as I know the same holds true. > > Now I?m doing this from memory as its been a while since I used Total > Recorder, you go into Background recording where you?re prompted to enter an > UR that links to a stream of a radio station on the net etc. > > Total Recorder captures the data from this stream in real time thus > avoiding the Sound Card completely so its just total recorder saving the > data from the stream to the computer, nothing more and nothing less. > > You can open url?s or streams in Total Recorder for listening in the same > way from the File Menu. > > > > > On 11 Jan 2017, at 12:01 pm, Tom Kaufman wrote: > > > > > > Have a question for Dane: you say you can have TR record and not have > the screen reader interfere with anything. I have the standard version of > TR, so does the same hold true here? And if so, how is this done? > > > Thanks, > > > Tom Kaufman > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 7:14 PM > > > To: PC Audio Discussion List > > > Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder > > > > > > I'm meerly making a suggestion which would save you heaps of time and > > > frustration in the end for several reasons. > > > > > > What you're doing at the moment is known as a software recording and > > > this may mean that other audio surces could be heard in the recording > > > itself such as system sounds from your computer or even your Screen > Reader. > > > > > > If you Capture the stream as I outlined then the pricess is completely > > > independent of your Sound card thus you can carry on with other > > > activities on your computer, have your Screen Reader ttalk to its hearts > > > > content etc. > > > > > > Anyway how you do things is completely up to you but I do suggest you > > > read the primers on Total Recorders web page wich contain some great > > > information on this sort of thing. > > > > > > Total Recorder is an incredibly powerful tool and much of that power is > > > hidden away. > > > > > > What version of Total Recorder are you using by the way? > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/11/2017 6:16 AM, Andy wrote: > > >> Hi Dane. > > >> > > >> I don't set TR to do anything. When I launch it, JAWS announces, > > >> press the space bar to record, so I do, and end up with quite a good > > >> quality WAV file, of the show that I'm listening to. > > >> > > >> I just was not sure if I could be doing this job of recording better. > > >> > > >> In your message you advised that the BBC were broadcasting at 320 kbps > > >> and if I recorded any programme, then TR would simply grab it at the > > >> same quality. > > >> > > >> I often use Tap-in radio or the assessible bbc Iplayer to stream the > > >> show, but I'm thinking that perhaps you are telling me to record > > >> directly from Internet Explorer rather than Tap-in radio? > > >> > > >> Am I right? Or is it very much the same thing whither I stream > > >> through Tap-in radio, the Accessable BBC Iplayer or Internet explorer. > > >> > > >> > > >> Incidentaly, BBC radio 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 are all termed "Global" > > >> stations, thus the 320 kbps. However, my favourate station is Radio > > >> Scotland, but this is considered as a Reginal station and only > > >> streamed at 128 kbps. > > >> > > >> So much for equality, where my national station is obviously inferiour > > >> to all the other "British" Broadcasting Company stations! > > >> > > >> > > >> Very best wishes. > > >> > > >> Andy. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" > > >> > > >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:47 AM > > >> Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder > > >> > > >> > > >> If you?ve set Total Recorder to capture a stream then the bit rate the > > >> stream is transmitted in will be captured. > > >> For example let?s suppose you?re recording BBC Music? They have a 320K > > >> stream so you would input this into Total Recorder directly rather > > >> than
Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
Why wouldn’t it work? Again this feature has absolutely nothing to do with operating system, Sound Card etc, its a Total Recorder Specific feature that just captures the stream and saves it to a file in the format the stream is on the Net, nothing more and nothing less. I have the Total Recorder Video Pro edition and must do some experimenting with that to see if there’s a way of capturing links to Flash Player, I’m sure there is. > On 11 Jan 2017, at 1:32 pm, Dean Martineau wrote: > > Does background recording work in Total Recorder in Windows 10? That > program used to work remarkably well in XP but I haven't had much success > with it since and haven't used it much as a result. > > Dean > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of John > Covici > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:53 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder > > There are certain limitations for this -- I use it all the time, but > it won't work on some streams like anything that uses flash, and it > doesn't work on youtube links. > > On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:09:09 -0500, > Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >> As far as I know the same holds true. >> Now I?m doing this from memory as its been a while since I used Total > Recorder, you go into Background recording where you?re prompted to enter an > UR that links to a stream of a radio station on the net etc. >> Total Recorder captures the data from this stream in real time thus > avoiding the Sound Card completely so its just total recorder saving the > data from the stream to the computer, nothing more and nothing less. >> You can open url?s or streams in Total Recorder for listening in the same > way from the File Menu. >> >>> On 11 Jan 2017, at 12:01 pm, Tom Kaufman wrote: >>> >>> Have a question for Dane: you say you can have TR record and not have > the screen reader interfere with anything. I have the standard version of > TR, so does the same hold true here? And if so, how is this done? >>> Thanks, >>> Tom Kaufman >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 7:14 PM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder >>> >>> I'm meerly making a suggestion which would save you heaps of time and >>> frustration in the end for several reasons. >>> >>> What you're doing at the moment is known as a software recording and >>> this may mean that other audio surces could be heard in the recording >>> itself such as system sounds from your computer or even your Screen > Reader. >>> >>> If you Capture the stream as I outlined then the pricess is completely >>> independent of your Sound card thus you can carry on with other >>> activities on your computer, have your Screen Reader ttalk to its hearts > >>> content etc. >>> >>> Anyway how you do things is completely up to you but I do suggest you >>> read the primers on Total Recorders web page wich contain some great >>> information on this sort of thing. >>> >>> Total Recorder is an incredibly powerful tool and much of that power is >>> hidden away. >>> >>> What version of Total Recorder are you using by the way? >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/11/2017 6:16 AM, Andy wrote: Hi Dane. I don't set TR to do anything. When I launch it, JAWS announces, press the space bar to record, so I do, and end up with quite a good quality WAV file, of the show that I'm listening to. I just was not sure if I could be doing this job of recording better. In your message you advised that the BBC were broadcasting at 320 kbps and if I recorded any programme, then TR would simply grab it at the same quality. I often use Tap-in radio or the assessible bbc Iplayer to stream the show, but I'm thinking that perhaps you are telling me to record directly from Internet Explorer rather than Tap-in radio? Am I right? Or is it very much the same thing whither I stream through Tap-in radio, the Accessable BBC Iplayer or Internet explorer. Incidentaly, BBC radio 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 are all termed "Global" stations, thus the 320 kbps. However, my favourate station is Radio Scotland, but this is considered as a Reginal station and only streamed at 128 kbps. So much for equality, where my national station is obviously inferiour to all the other "British" Broadcasting Company stations! Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:47 AM Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder If you?ve set Total Recorder to capture a stream then the bit rate the stre
RE: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
Does background recording work in Total Recorder in Windows 10? That program used to work remarkably well in XP but I haven't had much success with it since and haven't used it much as a result. Dean -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of John Covici Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:53 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder There are certain limitations for this -- I use it all the time, but it won't work on some streams like anything that uses flash, and it doesn't work on youtube links. On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:09:09 -0500, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > As far as I know the same holds true. > Now I?m doing this from memory as its been a while since I used Total Recorder, you go into Background recording where you?re prompted to enter an UR that links to a stream of a radio station on the net etc. > Total Recorder captures the data from this stream in real time thus avoiding the Sound Card completely so its just total recorder saving the data from the stream to the computer, nothing more and nothing less. > You can open url?s or streams in Total Recorder for listening in the same way from the File Menu. > > > On 11 Jan 2017, at 12:01 pm, Tom Kaufman wrote: > > > > Have a question for Dane: you say you can have TR record and not have the screen reader interfere with anything. I have the standard version of TR, so does the same hold true here? And if so, how is this done? > > Thanks, > > Tom Kaufman > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan > > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 7:14 PM > > To: PC Audio Discussion List > > Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder > > > > I'm meerly making a suggestion which would save you heaps of time and > > frustration in the end for several reasons. > > > > What you're doing at the moment is known as a software recording and > > this may mean that other audio surces could be heard in the recording > > itself such as system sounds from your computer or even your Screen Reader. > > > > If you Capture the stream as I outlined then the pricess is completely > > independent of your Sound card thus you can carry on with other > > activities on your computer, have your Screen Reader ttalk to its hearts > > content etc. > > > > Anyway how you do things is completely up to you but I do suggest you > > read the primers on Total Recorders web page wich contain some great > > information on this sort of thing. > > > > Total Recorder is an incredibly powerful tool and much of that power is > > hidden away. > > > > What version of Total Recorder are you using by the way? > > > > > > > > On 1/11/2017 6:16 AM, Andy wrote: > >> Hi Dane. > >> > >> I don't set TR to do anything. When I launch it, JAWS announces, > >> press the space bar to record, so I do, and end up with quite a good > >> quality WAV file, of the show that I'm listening to. > >> > >> I just was not sure if I could be doing this job of recording better. > >> > >> In your message you advised that the BBC were broadcasting at 320 kbps > >> and if I recorded any programme, then TR would simply grab it at the > >> same quality. > >> > >> I often use Tap-in radio or the assessible bbc Iplayer to stream the > >> show, but I'm thinking that perhaps you are telling me to record > >> directly from Internet Explorer rather than Tap-in radio? > >> > >> Am I right? Or is it very much the same thing whither I stream > >> through Tap-in radio, the Accessable BBC Iplayer or Internet explorer. > >> > >> > >> Incidentaly, BBC radio 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 are all termed "Global" > >> stations, thus the 320 kbps. However, my favourate station is Radio > >> Scotland, but this is considered as a Reginal station and only > >> streamed at 128 kbps. > >> > >> So much for equality, where my national station is obviously inferiour > >> to all the other "British" Broadcasting Company stations! > >> > >> > >> Very best wishes. > >> > >> Andy. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" > >> > >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:47 AM > >> Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder > >> > >> > >> If you?ve set Total Recorder to capture a stream then the bit rate the > >> stream is transmitted in will be captured. > >> For example let?s suppose you?re recording BBC Music? They have a 320K > >> stream so you would input this into Total Recorder directly rather > >> than use Tapin Radio. > >> Total recorder would capture the stream as is and thus save it to a file. > >> You can set conditions and so on to control the name of that file and > >> so on. > >> > >>> On 10 Jan 2017, at 7:38 am, Andy wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi all. > >>> > >>> I use Tap-in Radio to listen, for example, to a BBC 6 Music show, and > >>> total recorder p
Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
Of course not, there needs to be a direct link to the sound source and - in the case of BBC Music - there is one, a very nice 320K source. > On 11 Jan 2017, at 12:53 pm, John Covici wrote: > > There are certain limitations for this -- I use it all the time, but > it won't work on some streams like anything that uses flash, and it > doesn't work on youtube links. > > On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:09:09 -0500, > Dane Trethowan wrote: >> >> As far as I know the same holds true. >> Now I’m doing this from memory as its been a while since I used Total >> Recorder, you go into Background recording where you’re prompted to enter an >> UR that links to a stream of a radio station on the net etc. >> Total Recorder captures the data from this stream in real time thus avoiding >> the Sound Card completely so its just total recorder saving the data from >> the stream to the computer, nothing more and nothing less. >> You can open url’s or streams in Total Recorder for listening in the same >> way from the File Menu. >> >>> On 11 Jan 2017, at 12:01 pm, Tom Kaufman wrote: >>> >>> Have a question for Dane: you say you can have TR record and not have the >>> screen reader interfere with anything. I have the standard version of TR, >>> so does the same hold true here? And if so, how is this done? >>> Thanks, >>> Tom Kaufman >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane >>> Trethowan >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 7:14 PM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder >>> >>> I'm meerly making a suggestion which would save you heaps of time and >>> frustration in the end for several reasons. >>> >>> What you're doing at the moment is known as a software recording and >>> this may mean that other audio surces could be heard in the recording >>> itself such as system sounds from your computer or even your Screen Reader. >>> >>> If you Capture the stream as I outlined then the pricess is completely >>> independent of your Sound card thus you can carry on with other >>> activities on your computer, have your Screen Reader ttalk to its hearts >>> content etc. >>> >>> Anyway how you do things is completely up to you but I do suggest you >>> read the primers on Total Recorders web page wich contain some great >>> information on this sort of thing. >>> >>> Total Recorder is an incredibly powerful tool and much of that power is >>> hidden away. >>> >>> What version of Total Recorder are you using by the way? >>> >>> >>> >>> On 1/11/2017 6:16 AM, Andy wrote: Hi Dane. I don't set TR to do anything. When I launch it, JAWS announces, press the space bar to record, so I do, and end up with quite a good quality WAV file, of the show that I'm listening to. I just was not sure if I could be doing this job of recording better. In your message you advised that the BBC were broadcasting at 320 kbps and if I recorded any programme, then TR would simply grab it at the same quality. I often use Tap-in radio or the assessible bbc Iplayer to stream the show, but I'm thinking that perhaps you are telling me to record directly from Internet Explorer rather than Tap-in radio? Am I right? Or is it very much the same thing whither I stream through Tap-in radio, the Accessable BBC Iplayer or Internet explorer. Incidentaly, BBC radio 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 are all termed "Global" stations, thus the 320 kbps. However, my favourate station is Radio Scotland, but this is considered as a Reginal station and only streamed at 128 kbps. So much for equality, where my national station is obviously inferiour to all the other "British" Broadcasting Company stations! Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:47 AM Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder If you’ve set Total Recorder to capture a stream then the bit rate the stream is transmitted in will be captured. For example let’s suppose you’re recording BBC Music? They have a 320K stream so you would input this into Total Recorder directly rather than use Tapin Radio. Total recorder would capture the stream as is and thus save it to a file. You can set conditions and so on to control the name of that file and so on. > On 10 Jan 2017, at 7:38 am, Andy wrote: > > Hi all. > > I use Tap-in Radio to listen, for example, to a BBC 6 Music show, and > total recorder professional to record the show. > > BBC 6 music is broadcast at a very high bit rate and I was wondering > if perhaps I'm capturing it at it's best. > > I have h
Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
There are certain limitations for this -- I use it all the time, but it won't work on some streams like anything that uses flash, and it doesn't work on youtube links. On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:09:09 -0500, Dane Trethowan wrote: > > As far as I know the same holds true. > Now I’m doing this from memory as its been a while since I used Total > Recorder, you go into Background recording where you’re prompted to enter an > UR that links to a stream of a radio station on the net etc. > Total Recorder captures the data from this stream in real time thus avoiding > the Sound Card completely so its just total recorder saving the data from the > stream to the computer, nothing more and nothing less. > You can open url’s or streams in Total Recorder for listening in the same way > from the File Menu. > > > On 11 Jan 2017, at 12:01 pm, Tom Kaufman wrote: > > > > Have a question for Dane: you say you can have TR record and not have the > > screen reader interfere with anything. I have the standard version of TR, > > so does the same hold true here? And if so, how is this done? > > Thanks, > > Tom Kaufman > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > > Trethowan > > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 7:14 PM > > To: PC Audio Discussion List > > Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder > > > > I'm meerly making a suggestion which would save you heaps of time and > > frustration in the end for several reasons. > > > > What you're doing at the moment is known as a software recording and > > this may mean that other audio surces could be heard in the recording > > itself such as system sounds from your computer or even your Screen Reader. > > > > If you Capture the stream as I outlined then the pricess is completely > > independent of your Sound card thus you can carry on with other > > activities on your computer, have your Screen Reader ttalk to its hearts > > content etc. > > > > Anyway how you do things is completely up to you but I do suggest you > > read the primers on Total Recorders web page wich contain some great > > information on this sort of thing. > > > > Total Recorder is an incredibly powerful tool and much of that power is > > hidden away. > > > > What version of Total Recorder are you using by the way? > > > > > > > > On 1/11/2017 6:16 AM, Andy wrote: > >> Hi Dane. > >> > >> I don't set TR to do anything. When I launch it, JAWS announces, > >> press the space bar to record, so I do, and end up with quite a good > >> quality WAV file, of the show that I'm listening to. > >> > >> I just was not sure if I could be doing this job of recording better. > >> > >> In your message you advised that the BBC were broadcasting at 320 kbps > >> and if I recorded any programme, then TR would simply grab it at the > >> same quality. > >> > >> I often use Tap-in radio or the assessible bbc Iplayer to stream the > >> show, but I'm thinking that perhaps you are telling me to record > >> directly from Internet Explorer rather than Tap-in radio? > >> > >> Am I right? Or is it very much the same thing whither I stream > >> through Tap-in radio, the Accessable BBC Iplayer or Internet explorer. > >> > >> > >> Incidentaly, BBC radio 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 are all termed "Global" > >> stations, thus the 320 kbps. However, my favourate station is Radio > >> Scotland, but this is considered as a Reginal station and only > >> streamed at 128 kbps. > >> > >> So much for equality, where my national station is obviously inferiour > >> to all the other "British" Broadcasting Company stations! > >> > >> > >> Very best wishes. > >> > >> Andy. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" > >> > >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:47 AM > >> Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder > >> > >> > >> If you’ve set Total Recorder to capture a stream then the bit rate the > >> stream is transmitted in will be captured. > >> For example let’s suppose you’re recording BBC Music? They have a 320K > >> stream so you would input this into Total Recorder directly rather > >> than use Tapin Radio. > >> Total recorder would capture the stream as is and thus save it to a file. > >> You can set conditions and so on to control the name of that file and > >> so on. > >> > >>> On 10 Jan 2017, at 7:38 am, Andy wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi all. > >>> > >>> I use Tap-in Radio to listen, for example, to a BBC 6 Music show, and > >>> total recorder professional to record the show. > >>> > >>> BBC 6 music is broadcast at a very high bit rate and I was wondering > >>> if perhaps I'm capturing it at it's best. > >>> > >>> I have had a look within Total Recorder settings to see if perchance > >>> there was a box for adjusting the quality or bit rate of recording, > >>> but I cannot find it. > >>> > >>> Anyone know how I can ensure that I'm re
Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
As far as I know the same holds true. Now I’m doing this from memory as its been a while since I used Total Recorder, you go into Background recording where you’re prompted to enter an UR that links to a stream of a radio station on the net etc. Total Recorder captures the data from this stream in real time thus avoiding the Sound Card completely so its just total recorder saving the data from the stream to the computer, nothing more and nothing less. You can open url’s or streams in Total Recorder for listening in the same way from the File Menu. > On 11 Jan 2017, at 12:01 pm, Tom Kaufman wrote: > > Have a question for Dane: you say you can have TR record and not have the > screen reader interfere with anything. I have the standard version of TR, so > does the same hold true here? And if so, how is this done? > Thanks, > Tom Kaufman > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 7:14 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder > > I'm meerly making a suggestion which would save you heaps of time and > frustration in the end for several reasons. > > What you're doing at the moment is known as a software recording and > this may mean that other audio surces could be heard in the recording > itself such as system sounds from your computer or even your Screen Reader. > > If you Capture the stream as I outlined then the pricess is completely > independent of your Sound card thus you can carry on with other > activities on your computer, have your Screen Reader ttalk to its hearts > content etc. > > Anyway how you do things is completely up to you but I do suggest you > read the primers on Total Recorders web page wich contain some great > information on this sort of thing. > > Total Recorder is an incredibly powerful tool and much of that power is > hidden away. > > What version of Total Recorder are you using by the way? > > > > On 1/11/2017 6:16 AM, Andy wrote: >> Hi Dane. >> >> I don't set TR to do anything. When I launch it, JAWS announces, >> press the space bar to record, so I do, and end up with quite a good >> quality WAV file, of the show that I'm listening to. >> >> I just was not sure if I could be doing this job of recording better. >> >> In your message you advised that the BBC were broadcasting at 320 kbps >> and if I recorded any programme, then TR would simply grab it at the >> same quality. >> >> I often use Tap-in radio or the assessible bbc Iplayer to stream the >> show, but I'm thinking that perhaps you are telling me to record >> directly from Internet Explorer rather than Tap-in radio? >> >> Am I right? Or is it very much the same thing whither I stream >> through Tap-in radio, the Accessable BBC Iplayer or Internet explorer. >> >> >> Incidentaly, BBC radio 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 are all termed "Global" >> stations, thus the 320 kbps. However, my favourate station is Radio >> Scotland, but this is considered as a Reginal station and only >> streamed at 128 kbps. >> >> So much for equality, where my national station is obviously inferiour >> to all the other "British" Broadcasting Company stations! >> >> >> Very best wishes. >> >> Andy. >> >> >> >> >> >> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" >> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:47 AM >> Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder >> >> >> If you’ve set Total Recorder to capture a stream then the bit rate the >> stream is transmitted in will be captured. >> For example let’s suppose you’re recording BBC Music? They have a 320K >> stream so you would input this into Total Recorder directly rather >> than use Tapin Radio. >> Total recorder would capture the stream as is and thus save it to a file. >> You can set conditions and so on to control the name of that file and >> so on. >> >>> On 10 Jan 2017, at 7:38 am, Andy wrote: >>> >>> Hi all. >>> >>> I use Tap-in Radio to listen, for example, to a BBC 6 Music show, and >>> total recorder professional to record the show. >>> >>> BBC 6 music is broadcast at a very high bit rate and I was wondering >>> if perhaps I'm capturing it at it's best. >>> >>> I have had a look within Total Recorder settings to see if perchance >>> there was a box for adjusting the quality or bit rate of recording, >>> but I cannot find it. >>> >>> Anyone know how I can ensure that I'm recording at the very best >>> posible quality available to me. >>> >>> Thanks in advance. >>> >>> Very best wishes. >>> >>> Andy. >>> >>> From Scotland with Love. >>> >> >> ** >> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of >> the halfwits in this world behind. >> >> >> >> > > > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
RE: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
Have a question for Dane: you say you can have TR record and not have the screen reader interfere with anything. I have the standard version of TR, so does the same hold true here? And if so, how is this done? Thanks, Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 7:14 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder I'm meerly making a suggestion which would save you heaps of time and frustration in the end for several reasons. What you're doing at the moment is known as a software recording and this may mean that other audio surces could be heard in the recording itself such as system sounds from your computer or even your Screen Reader. If you Capture the stream as I outlined then the pricess is completely independent of your Sound card thus you can carry on with other activities on your computer, have your Screen Reader ttalk to its hearts content etc. Anyway how you do things is completely up to you but I do suggest you read the primers on Total Recorders web page wich contain some great information on this sort of thing. Total Recorder is an incredibly powerful tool and much of that power is hidden away. What version of Total Recorder are you using by the way? On 1/11/2017 6:16 AM, Andy wrote: > Hi Dane. > > I don't set TR to do anything. When I launch it, JAWS announces, > press the space bar to record, so I do, and end up with quite a good > quality WAV file, of the show that I'm listening to. > > I just was not sure if I could be doing this job of recording better. > > In your message you advised that the BBC were broadcasting at 320 kbps > and if I recorded any programme, then TR would simply grab it at the > same quality. > > I often use Tap-in radio or the assessible bbc Iplayer to stream the > show, but I'm thinking that perhaps you are telling me to record > directly from Internet Explorer rather than Tap-in radio? > > Am I right? Or is it very much the same thing whither I stream > through Tap-in radio, the Accessable BBC Iplayer or Internet explorer. > > > Incidentaly, BBC radio 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 are all termed "Global" > stations, thus the 320 kbps. However, my favourate station is Radio > Scotland, but this is considered as a Reginal station and only > streamed at 128 kbps. > > So much for equality, where my national station is obviously inferiour > to all the other "British" Broadcasting Company stations! > > > Very best wishes. > > Andy. > > > > > > - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" > > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:47 AM > Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder > > > If you’ve set Total Recorder to capture a stream then the bit rate the > stream is transmitted in will be captured. > For example let’s suppose you’re recording BBC Music? They have a 320K > stream so you would input this into Total Recorder directly rather > than use Tapin Radio. > Total recorder would capture the stream as is and thus save it to a file. > You can set conditions and so on to control the name of that file and > so on. > >> On 10 Jan 2017, at 7:38 am, Andy wrote: >> >> Hi all. >> >> I use Tap-in Radio to listen, for example, to a BBC 6 Music show, and >> total recorder professional to record the show. >> >> BBC 6 music is broadcast at a very high bit rate and I was wondering >> if perhaps I'm capturing it at it's best. >> >> I have had a look within Total Recorder settings to see if perchance >> there was a box for adjusting the quality or bit rate of recording, >> but I cannot find it. >> >> Anyone know how I can ensure that I'm recording at the very best >> posible quality available to me. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> Very best wishes. >> >> Andy. >> >> From Scotland with Love. >> > > ** > Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of > the halfwits in this world behind. > > > >
Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
I'm meerly making a suggestion which would save you heaps of time and frustration in the end for several reasons. What you're doing at the moment is known as a software recording and this may mean that other audio surces could be heard in the recording itself such as system sounds from your computer or even your Screen Reader. If you Capture the stream as I outlined then the pricess is completely independent of your Sound card thus you can carry on with other activities on your computer, have your Screen Reader ttalk to its hearts content etc. Anyway how you do things is completely up to you but I do suggest you read the primers on Total Recorders web page wich contain some great information on this sort of thing. Total Recorder is an incredibly powerful tool and much of that power is hidden away. What version of Total Recorder are you using by the way? On 1/11/2017 6:16 AM, Andy wrote: Hi Dane. I don't set TR to do anything. When I launch it, JAWS announces, press the space bar to record, so I do, and end up with quite a good quality WAV file, of the show that I'm listening to. I just was not sure if I could be doing this job of recording better. In your message you advised that the BBC were broadcasting at 320 kbps and if I recorded any programme, then TR would simply grab it at the same quality. I often use Tap-in radio or the assessible bbc Iplayer to stream the show, but I'm thinking that perhaps you are telling me to record directly from Internet Explorer rather than Tap-in radio? Am I right? Or is it very much the same thing whither I stream through Tap-in radio, the Accessable BBC Iplayer or Internet explorer. Incidentaly, BBC radio 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 are all termed "Global" stations, thus the 320 kbps. However, my favourate station is Radio Scotland, but this is considered as a Reginal station and only streamed at 128 kbps. So much for equality, where my national station is obviously inferiour to all the other "British" Broadcasting Company stations! Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:47 AM Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder If you’ve set Total Recorder to capture a stream then the bit rate the stream is transmitted in will be captured. For example let’s suppose you’re recording BBC Music? They have a 320K stream so you would input this into Total Recorder directly rather than use Tapin Radio. Total recorder would capture the stream as is and thus save it to a file. You can set conditions and so on to control the name of that file and so on. On 10 Jan 2017, at 7:38 am, Andy wrote: Hi all. I use Tap-in Radio to listen, for example, to a BBC 6 Music show, and total recorder professional to record the show. BBC 6 music is broadcast at a very high bit rate and I was wondering if perhaps I'm capturing it at it's best. I have had a look within Total Recorder settings to see if perchance there was a box for adjusting the quality or bit rate of recording, but I cannot find it. Anyone know how I can ensure that I'm recording at the very best posible quality available to me. Thanks in advance. Very best wishes. Andy. From Scotland with Love. ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
Just to summarise. The method I suggested for captuing BBC Music is just that and has nothing whatever to do with the Sound Card because Total Recorder is actually capturing the stream as it comes down from the Internet, nothing more and nothing less thus what you're having saved to your computer is BBC Music, in its original format without conversion, without level adjustment or contamination of any kind, just the stream as BBC sends it to the web. If you want to set up Bit Rates and so on - then you can do all that from Recording Source And Parameters which can be accessed from Total Recorder in a variety of ways but you need not worry yourself with this for the purpose you ontlined,. On 1/11/2017 6:03 AM, Andy wrote: Hi Norma. Thanks for the advice, but Dane, who I will be wrighting to after this message, is suggesting that TR will record whatever is coming through the sound card, thus, I need not make any adjustments, with respect to streaming from the BBC in any case. However, in normal terms if I was wanting to use TR for making brand new recordings from my PC, then perhaps setting a required bit rate would need to be done. More homework on this I'm thinking, ha! Thanks for your assistance. Andy. - Original Message - From: "Norma A. Boge" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:52 AM Subject: RE: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder Andy, if you use the recording wizard it will walk you through all the settings for bit rate and such. This isn't the only way to set these values but it's quick and easy. If memory serves it can be found under tools. I apologize if this isn't correct as I'm not at my studio Pc right now. HTH Norma -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 2:39 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder Hi all. I use Tap-in Radio to listen, for example, to a BBC 6 Music show, and total recorder professional to record the show. BBC 6 music is broadcast at a very high bit rate and I was wondering if perhaps I'm capturing it at it's best. I have had a look within Total Recorder settings to see if perchance there was a box for adjusting the quality or bit rate of recording, but I cannot find it. Anyone know how I can ensure that I'm recording at the very best posible quality available to me. Thanks in advance. Very best wishes. Andy. From Scotland with Love.
Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
Hi Tom. This whole area of recording is just a hobby for me. I don't know the technical side of things. For example, is it only my imagination but does a WAV format file not sound better than an MP3 file? Total recorder records in Wave. I then use Goldwave to double the volume and then maximise it and it really sounds quite good, then \I save it as an EMP file, once my editing has been completed. I'm just learning and trying to get the best out of my recordings but don't have the skills yet. Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "Tom Kaufman" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 7:55 PM Subject: RE: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder Just a note in case it matters: you don't necessarily have to record and have the file be a WAB file as TR does allow for one to record in the MP3 format, although off the top of my head, I don't remember how you do it as it has been quite a while since I have messed with Total Recorder! Tapin Radio also will record audio streaming, but you probably already know this. Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 2:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder Hi Dane. I don't set TR to do anything. When I launch it, JAWS announces, press the space bar to record, so I do, and end up with quite a good quality WAV file, of the show that I'm listening to. I just was not sure if I could be doing this job of recording better. In your message you advised that the BBC were broadcasting at 320 kbps and if I recorded any programme, then TR would simply grab it at the same quality. I often use Tap-in radio or the assessible bbc Iplayer to stream the show, but I'm thinking that perhaps you are telling me to record directly from Internet Explorer rather than Tap-in radio? Am I right? Or is it very much the same thing whither I stream through Tap-in radio, the Accessable BBC Iplayer or Internet explorer. Incidentaly, BBC radio 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 are all termed "Global" stations, thus the 320 kbps. However, my favourate station is Radio Scotland, but this is considered as a Reginal station and only streamed at 128 kbps. So much for equality, where my national station is obviously inferiour to all the other "British" Broadcasting Company stations! Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:47 AM Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder If you’ve set Total Recorder to capture a stream then the bit rate the stream is transmitted in will be captured. For example let’s suppose you’re recording BBC Music? They have a 320K stream so you would input this into Total Recorder directly rather than use Tapin Radio. Total recorder would capture the stream as is and thus save it to a file. You can set conditions and so on to control the name of that file and so on. On 10 Jan 2017, at 7:38 am, Andy wrote: Hi all. I use Tap-in Radio to listen, for example, to a BBC 6 Music show, and total recorder professional to record the show. BBC 6 music is broadcast at a very high bit rate and I was wondering if perhaps I'm capturing it at it's best. I have had a look within Total Recorder settings to see if perchance there was a box for adjusting the quality or bit rate of recording, but I cannot find it. Anyone know how I can ensure that I'm recording at the very best posible quality available to me. Thanks in advance. Very best wishes. Andy. From Scotland with Love. ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
RE: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
Just a note in case it matters: you don't necessarily have to record and have the file be a WAB file as TR does allow for one to record in the MP3 format, although off the top of my head, I don't remember how you do it as it has been quite a while since I have messed with Total Recorder! Tapin Radio also will record audio streaming, but you probably already know this. Tom Kaufman -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 2:17 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder Hi Dane. I don't set TR to do anything. When I launch it, JAWS announces, press the space bar to record, so I do, and end up with quite a good quality WAV file, of the show that I'm listening to. I just was not sure if I could be doing this job of recording better. In your message you advised that the BBC were broadcasting at 320 kbps and if I recorded any programme, then TR would simply grab it at the same quality. I often use Tap-in radio or the assessible bbc Iplayer to stream the show, but I'm thinking that perhaps you are telling me to record directly from Internet Explorer rather than Tap-in radio? Am I right? Or is it very much the same thing whither I stream through Tap-in radio, the Accessable BBC Iplayer or Internet explorer. Incidentaly, BBC radio 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 are all termed "Global" stations, thus the 320 kbps. However, my favourate station is Radio Scotland, but this is considered as a Reginal station and only streamed at 128 kbps. So much for equality, where my national station is obviously inferiour to all the other "British" Broadcasting Company stations! Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:47 AM Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder If you’ve set Total Recorder to capture a stream then the bit rate the stream is transmitted in will be captured. For example let’s suppose you’re recording BBC Music? They have a 320K stream so you would input this into Total Recorder directly rather than use Tapin Radio. Total recorder would capture the stream as is and thus save it to a file. You can set conditions and so on to control the name of that file and so on. > On 10 Jan 2017, at 7:38 am, Andy wrote: > > Hi all. > > I use Tap-in Radio to listen, for example, to a BBC 6 Music show, and > total recorder professional to record the show. > > BBC 6 music is broadcast at a very high bit rate and I was wondering if > perhaps I'm capturing it at it's best. > > I have had a look within Total Recorder settings to see if perchance there > was a box for adjusting the quality or bit rate of recording, but I cannot > find it. > > Anyone know how I can ensure that I'm recording at the very best posible > quality available to me. > > Thanks in advance. > > Very best wishes. > > Andy. > > From Scotland with Love. > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
Hi Dane. I don't set TR to do anything. When I launch it, JAWS announces, press the space bar to record, so I do, and end up with quite a good quality WAV file, of the show that I'm listening to. I just was not sure if I could be doing this job of recording better. In your message you advised that the BBC were broadcasting at 320 kbps and if I recorded any programme, then TR would simply grab it at the same quality. I often use Tap-in radio or the assessible bbc Iplayer to stream the show, but I'm thinking that perhaps you are telling me to record directly from Internet Explorer rather than Tap-in radio? Am I right? Or is it very much the same thing whither I stream through Tap-in radio, the Accessable BBC Iplayer or Internet explorer. Incidentaly, BBC radio 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 are all termed "Global" stations, thus the 320 kbps. However, my favourate station is Radio Scotland, but this is considered as a Reginal station and only streamed at 128 kbps. So much for equality, where my national station is obviously inferiour to all the other "British" Broadcasting Company stations! Very best wishes. Andy. - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 4:47 AM Subject: Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder If you’ve set Total Recorder to capture a stream then the bit rate the stream is transmitted in will be captured. For example let’s suppose you’re recording BBC Music? They have a 320K stream so you would input this into Total Recorder directly rather than use Tapin Radio. Total recorder would capture the stream as is and thus save it to a file. You can set conditions and so on to control the name of that file and so on. On 10 Jan 2017, at 7:38 am, Andy wrote: Hi all. I use Tap-in Radio to listen, for example, to a BBC 6 Music show, and total recorder professional to record the show. BBC 6 music is broadcast at a very high bit rate and I was wondering if perhaps I'm capturing it at it's best. I have had a look within Total Recorder settings to see if perchance there was a box for adjusting the quality or bit rate of recording, but I cannot find it. Anyone know how I can ensure that I'm recording at the very best posible quality available to me. Thanks in advance. Very best wishes. Andy. From Scotland with Love. ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
Hi Norma. Thanks for the advice, but Dane, who I will be wrighting to after this message, is suggesting that TR will record whatever is coming through the sound card, thus, I need not make any adjustments, with respect to streaming from the BBC in any case. However, in normal terms if I was wanting to use TR for making brand new recordings from my PC, then perhaps setting a required bit rate would need to be done. More homework on this I'm thinking, ha! Thanks for your assistance. Andy. - Original Message - From: "Norma A. Boge" To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:52 AM Subject: RE: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder Andy, if you use the recording wizard it will walk you through all the settings for bit rate and such. This isn't the only way to set these values but it's quick and easy. If memory serves it can be found under tools. I apologize if this isn't correct as I'm not at my studio Pc right now. HTH Norma -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 2:39 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder Hi all. I use Tap-in Radio to listen, for example, to a BBC 6 Music show, and total recorder professional to record the show. BBC 6 music is broadcast at a very high bit rate and I was wondering if perhaps I'm capturing it at it's best. I have had a look within Total Recorder settings to see if perchance there was a box for adjusting the quality or bit rate of recording, but I cannot find it. Anyone know how I can ensure that I'm recording at the very best posible quality available to me. Thanks in advance. Very best wishes. Andy. From Scotland with Love.
Re: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
If he’s capturing BBC Music then he won’t even have to do that. > On 10 Jan 2017, at 7:52 pm, Norma A. Boge wrote: > > Andy, if you use the recording wizard it will walk you through all the > settings for bit rate and such. This isn't the only way to set these values > but it's quick and easy. If memory serves it can be found under tools. I > apologize if this isn't correct as I'm not at my studio Pc right now. HTH > Norma > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 2:39 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder > > Hi all. > > I use Tap-in Radio to listen, for example, to a BBC 6 Music show, and total > recorder professional to record the show. > > BBC 6 music is broadcast at a very high bit rate and I was wondering if > perhaps I'm capturing it at it's best. > > I have had a look within Total Recorder settings to see if perchance there > was a box for adjusting the quality or bit rate of recording, but I cannot > find it. > > Anyone know how I can ensure that I'm recording at the very best posible > quality available to me. > > Thanks in advance. > > Very best wishes. > > Andy. > > From Scotland with Love. > > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
RE: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder
Andy, if you use the recording wizard it will walk you through all the settings for bit rate and such. This isn't the only way to set these values but it's quick and easy. If memory serves it can be found under tools. I apologize if this isn't correct as I'm not at my studio Pc right now. HTH Norma -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: Monday, January 09, 2017 2:39 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Bit rate settings with Total Recorder Hi all. I use Tap-in Radio to listen, for example, to a BBC 6 Music show, and total recorder professional to record the show. BBC 6 music is broadcast at a very high bit rate and I was wondering if perhaps I'm capturing it at it's best. I have had a look within Total Recorder settings to see if perchance there was a box for adjusting the quality or bit rate of recording, but I cannot find it. Anyone know how I can ensure that I'm recording at the very best posible quality available to me. Thanks in advance. Very best wishes. Andy. >From Scotland with Love.