Re: Shoutcast or Windows Media servers for cell phones
I'm afraid your a little confused, as shoutcast itself is nothing more then a protocol, the shoutcast server can serve any medium that one can write an application for. As such no unique server is needed to stream to a cell phone, simply lowering the bitrate or running a separate server with a lowered bitrate will allow users on the go to enjoy your content. best tj - Original Message - From: JardataMailServicesBox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 12:17 AM Subject: Shoutcast or Windows Media servers for cell phones Hello List! I have a shoutcast server through Ultrahost for my regular internet radio station. I was wondering if such servers exist that are designed for cell phones and, if so, where can I find one? I'd like to stream my station via my shoutcast server and a cell phone server at the same time so cell hone listeners could hear my station as well. A low-cost one would be preferable. James Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Shoutcast or Windows Media servers for cell phones
but you really don't want to run media server for a number of similar flexibility reasons as far as cross compatabillity, and compression tj - Original Message - From: Brian Olesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 4:56 AM Subject: Re: Shoutcast or Windows Media servers for cell phones HI, But shout cast isn't as flexible as media server in terms of auto detect the optimal bitrate and such. You'll have to run several streams to acheve this. Best regards Brian - Oprindelig meddelelse - Fra: Thomas (TJ) Olsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Til: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sendt: 21. juni 2007 10:33 Emne: Re: Shoutcast or Windows Media servers for cell phones I'm afraid your a little confused, as shoutcast itself is nothing more then a protocol, the shoutcast server can serve any medium that one can write an application for. As such no unique server is needed to stream to a cell phone, simply lowering the bitrate or running a separate server with a lowered bitrate will allow users on the go to enjoy your content. best tj - Original Message - From: JardataMailServicesBox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 12:17 AM Subject: Shoutcast or Windows Media servers for cell phones Hello List! I have a shoutcast server through Ultrahost for my regular internet radio station. I was wondering if such servers exist that are designed for cell phones and, if so, where can I find one? I'd like to stream my station via my shoutcast server and a cell phone server at the same time so cell hone listeners could hear my station as well. A low-cost one would be preferable. James Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: problem with zen stone
I recomend labeling them 01 onward as the first part of the book tj - Original Message - From: Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 12:07 AM Subject: Re: problem with zen stone Hi Allison I have an mp3 player (not the zen stone) which has this problem if the file names are not unique within the first 8 characters, so if the file names are long with author+title+track number then it would play out of order. When I put the track number at the beginning of the file name it worked ok. The files displayed in the right order when looking at them in Windows because Windows has no problems with long file names. This may be worth trying. Also I read a review of the Zen Stone which said that it does not always resume play from where you stopped. This is a bug which occurs fairly frequently and would by annoying for audiobooks, has anyone had this problem with the Zen stone. Russ On 6/14/07, Allison Mervis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all! I loaded the fifth Harry Potter book onto my Zen stone, and turned it on, only to find that the book started playing in the middle. Advancing backward and forward through the files, I noticed that they weren't really playing in sequential order. I know I don't have the player set to shuffle mode, and I'm wondering what could be wrong. I checked the folder on the Zen stone, and they're displaying in the correct order. It's 384 parts. Could that be a problem? I'm at a loss. Thanks! Allison Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creative Zen Stone Player
the ipod shuffle functions in the same way, tj - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 9:04 AM Subject: Re: Creative Zen Stone Player The whole point of portability is, well, portability. If you have to cart a computer along just so you can recharge the device you have music on which has been transfered from the device you're having to cart along to recharge the portable device ... Bruce On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 03:43:22 -0500, Christopher Chaltain [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm curious. How do you think this makes it more inconvenient? Are you thinking it's more inconvenient than something which has a rechargeable battery in it but uses an AC adapter to charge it? If so, I'm thinking whether you plug it into a USB port or an AC outlet, it would all be the same. I guess though AC outlets are still more ubiquitous than USB ports. If I go on vacation, like a cruise, I'd still have to bring my laptop just to recharge my Creative Zen Stone. If you're comparing it to something which takes batteries then I guess it would be more inconvenient, when the battery runs down, you have to tether yourself to an electrical outlet or a USB port while it's charging, but if it took batteries, you could just pop a fresh battery in and go. I guess for the price, you could always buy two! OK never mind, you're right, I can see where it would be a bit nor inconvenient! I'm still asking for one for Father's Day though! I have the Creative MuVo with 128M of memory, and having something that's supposed to be just as easy to use, but with 1GB of memory is just too appealing. Plus I see it's size and the fact that it has rechargeable batteries as providing it's own conveniences. I don't have to worry about spare batteries or carrying two separate cords. Bruce Toews wrote: Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience? Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.ogts.net Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.ogts.net Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Creative Zen Stone Player
Don't quote me on this but if i'm not mistaken its possible to buy usb to standard outlet adapters tj - Original Message - From: Bruce Toews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 1:15 PM Subject: Creative Zen Stone Player Am I to understand that the Zen Stone can only be recharged by way of the USB port? If so, doesn't that cause a little inconvenience? Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.ogts.net Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cell phone program on notebook/laptop computers
different opperating systems are written to run on different device architectures, thus they would not be interoprable, as the capacity in which they are meant to run is different from what you hope to do here tj - Original Message - From: JardataMailServicesBox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 1:06 AM Subject: Cell phone program on notebook/laptop computers Hello List! I own a Cingular 8525 PDA. I understand that this is actually a PC with a cell phone program. What I don't know is whether or not the phone portion of this device is the same as a regular cell phone or it is just a program on Windows Mobile. If this is true; then why couldn't the same type program be on a notebook or laptop computer? What is the difference? I hear some notebooks talk of having Windows Mobile operating system on it. If this program could fit on a notebook, then we could just use bluetooth to access it on a bus or in a car--couldn't we? If not, then why not. We could then run Code Factory or a similar program just to work with this device or maybe JAWS or Window-eyes could do the job. I'm just wondering since a PDA is a computer too with a cell phone program. Am I just whistling dixie or is my assumption or perception correct? Do let me know! James Robinson Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Article: Audio Menus for iPods
Due to audible using a propriotary codek and rockbocx being an open source project, it is ne-impossible for rockbox to ever support audible, sorry tj - Original Message - From: Amanda [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 3:57 AM Subject: RE: Article: Audio Menus for iPods Is it still the case that Rockbox will not work with books downloaded from audible.com? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Thomas (TJ) Olsen Sent: Tuesday, 15 May 2007 1:26 PM To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Re: Article: Audio Menus for iPods Hi well while we've not yet heard of the ipodder, we would like to inform you that you do not need to wait for this (most likely pricey) add on for an ipod to navigate one while totally blind. rockbox.org provides a similar, but much more advanced system of navigating many models of mp3 players using a voiced user interface. I very highly recommend looking in to it. I use it flawlessly to use my ihp 120. tj tj - Original Message - From: John Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 10:16 PM Subject: Re: Article: Audio Menus for iPods Hello Steeve, I just red your posting about the talking ipodder. I've always wanted an eyepodder, but I didn't thank that it would work for me because of the fact that I'm blind. If they pull this earpodder off, I will be the first in line at Cirket City to get one. I hope this talking eye/earpodder will be avillable soon. - Original Message - From: Steve Pattison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Access-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PC Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:34 PM Subject: Fwd: Article: Audio Menus for iPods To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: David Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought this was very interesting ... Dave Technology Review Tuesday, May 08, 2007 Audio Menus for iPods By Kate Greene Download an MP3 version of this story http://www.audiodizer.com/technologyreview/infotech/download.aspx?id=18 703 Researchers are testing ways to let people listen to gadget menu options instead of looking at them. Clicking through the menu on your iPod demands a significant amount of visual attention, which can be a hassle (while jogging) and even dangerous (while driving). But engineers at the University of Toronto and Microsoft Research are working on software that could make it possible to navigate the menus of gadgets that use circular touch pads, like the iPod, without looking at them--only audio cues would be used. The researchers have designed an auditory menu technique--called earPod--that provides audio feedback when a person drags his or her finger around the touch pad. Although it's not ready to replace the expansive menus on real iPods, the results are encouraging, says Patrick Baudisch, a research scientist at Microsoft Research, in Seattle, who worked on the project. LINK: http://www.patrickbaudisch.com/ Within 30 minutes of beginning to use the technology, people can navigate two levels of earPod menus faster than traditional visual menus, and just as accurately. Requiring constant visual attention while using a PC is reasonable, says Baudisch, but if you're using an iPod on the road, [constant visual attention] is unreasonable. In addition to giving people back their eyes, he says, audio menus could help gadgets save battery life by not wasting energy on a screen, and they could add functions to the screen-free devices such as the iPod shuffle. The idea of using audio menus isn't new. Auditory interfaces can, after all, be found in touch-tone phone menus and in various assisted technologies for seeing-impaired users. But historically, handheld consumer gadgets haven't widely used audio menus. There are a few reasons for this, says Bruce Walker, professor in the school of psychology and college of computing at Georgia Institute of Technology. LINK: http://sonify.psych.gatech.edu/~walkerb/ One reason, he says, is that audio hardware and software have been resource intensive, requiring significant amounts of computation and energy. In addition, audio software has been difficult to program. But computing power is becoming cheaper, and there is an increasing need to find different ways to interact with handheld devices, says Walker. Within the past 10 years, he says, the ubiquity of mobile devices with small displays has made us all visually impaired. Currently there are only a handful of researchers who are systematically looking at ways to make better audio interfaces for various devices, but Walker expects the ranks to grow in the coming years. This first earPod prototype has a two-level menu hierarchy with 8 items per category, for a total of 64 items. To test how well people use the system
Re: Article: Audio Menus for iPods
Hi well while we've not yet heard of the ipodder, we would like to inform you that you do not need to wait for this (most likely pricey) add on for an ipod to navigate one while totally blind. rockbox.org provides a similar, but much more advanced system of navigating many models of mp3 players using a voiced user interface. I very highly recommend looking in to it. I use it flawlessly to use my ihp 120. tj tj - Original Message - From: John Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PC audio discussion list. pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 10:16 PM Subject: Re: Article: Audio Menus for iPods Hello Steeve, I just red your posting about the talking ipodder. I've always wanted an eyepodder, but I didn't thank that it would work for me because of the fact that I'm blind. If they pull this earpodder off, I will be the first in line at Cirket City to get one. I hope this talking eye/earpodder will be avillable soon. - Original Message - From: Steve Pattison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Access-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]; PC Audio Pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 9:34 PM Subject: Fwd: Article: Audio Menus for iPods To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: David Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought this was very interesting ... Dave Technology Review Tuesday, May 08, 2007 Audio Menus for iPods By Kate Greene Download an MP3 version of this story http://www.audiodizer.com/technologyreview/infotech/download.aspx?id=18 703 Researchers are testing ways to let people listen to gadget menu options instead of looking at them. Clicking through the menu on your iPod demands a significant amount of visual attention, which can be a hassle (while jogging) and even dangerous (while driving). But engineers at the University of Toronto and Microsoft Research are working on software that could make it possible to navigate the menus of gadgets that use circular touch pads, like the iPod, without looking at them--only audio cues would be used. The researchers have designed an auditory menu technique--called earPod--that provides audio feedback when a person drags his or her finger around the touch pad. Although it's not ready to replace the expansive menus on real iPods, the results are encouraging, says Patrick Baudisch, a research scientist at Microsoft Research, in Seattle, who worked on the project. LINK: http://www.patrickbaudisch.com/ Within 30 minutes of beginning to use the technology, people can navigate two levels of earPod menus faster than traditional visual menus, and just as accurately. Requiring constant visual attention while using a PC is reasonable, says Baudisch, but if you're using an iPod on the road, [constant visual attention] is unreasonable. In addition to giving people back their eyes, he says, audio menus could help gadgets save battery life by not wasting energy on a screen, and they could add functions to the screen-free devices such as the iPod shuffle. The idea of using audio menus isn't new. Auditory interfaces can, after all, be found in touch-tone phone menus and in various assisted technologies for seeing-impaired users. But historically, handheld consumer gadgets haven't widely used audio menus. There are a few reasons for this, says Bruce Walker, professor in the school of psychology and college of computing at Georgia Institute of Technology. LINK: http://sonify.psych.gatech.edu/~walkerb/ One reason, he says, is that audio hardware and software have been resource intensive, requiring significant amounts of computation and energy. In addition, audio software has been difficult to program. But computing power is becoming cheaper, and there is an increasing need to find different ways to interact with handheld devices, says Walker. Within the past 10 years, he says, the ubiquity of mobile devices with small displays has made us all visually impaired. Currently there are only a handful of researchers who are systematically looking at ways to make better audio interfaces for various devices, but Walker expects the ranks to grow in the coming years. This first earPod prototype has a two-level menu hierarchy with 8 items per category, for a total of 64 items. To test how well people use the system, the researchers assigned to the first menu level a random assortment of categories: clothing, fish, instrument, color, and four others. The next level contained eight examples of these items. The iPod analogy would be found in the opening menu, which includes music, extras, settings, and then lower menus that include playlists, artists, and albums, for instance. The earPod approach could be extended to read off a limited number of names of artists and songs as well. EarPod was designed specifically for gadgets with circular touch pads, says Baudisch. The circular touch pad is evenly divided into eight sectors: it's cut like pieces of a pie, with