Re: A Question About IPods
Well, here's what I know. Rockbox will play lossless file formats, so if you're going to use Rockbox, you can use any MP3 player supported by Rockbox. Go to rockbox.org to get the current list of supported players. The Zen Stone, which as far as I know, only comes in a 1GB or 2GB capacity, does not support Rockbox or lossless formats. I thought I remembered that the Toshiba Gigabyte supported lossless formats, and after checking the web, that is correct. It also supports Rockbox. I don't believe it's available anymore, but I'm sure you could still find used or refurbished models on the web. I don't know how accessible the native firmware is though; I've never heard of a blind person using the Gigabyte, unless they were using Rockbox. Just for grins, I did a search, using Yahoo!, on "lossless MP3 players" and the second hit was "MP3 players that play lossless music - CNET.com" at the URL http://www.cnet.com/4520-10166_1-6277508-1.html. On this web page it says: "I know where you're coming from; lossless files do sound better than lossy files such as MP3, WMA, or AAC. Except for the iPod Shuffle, all Apple iPods play back Apple lossless as well as uncompressed WAV and AIFF files. You will also find FLAC (an open-source lossless format) compatibility in the aging and hard-to-locate Rio Karma, as well as the Cowon iAudio M3 and X5. The only MP3 players that support WMA lossless are actually the Windows Mobile-powered Portable Media Centers. Check out this list of lossless-compatible players." The list being referred to above is at http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6450_7-5622801-1.html?tag=txt. Again, I don't know if any of these MP3 players are accessible with their native firmware or not. My hunch is that Rockbox will end up being the way to go. Good luck! DJ DOCTOR P wrote: > Hello everyone, > I'd rather have a portable media player that can play uncompressed audio > files. > I won't just be listening to it through a pare of headphones, I will be > listening to it through a very high quality portable sound system which I > will build for it myself. > To me, uncompressed audio files sound better then loscy MP3 files. > Which ipods play uncompressed audio files? > John. > - Original Message - > From: "K. Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:04 PM > Subject: RE: A Question About IPods > > > >> Either does an IPOD. >> >> Do some Googling And please let us know what you find out? >> >> Cheers...Keit >> -----Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain >> Sent: May 14, 2008 6:19 PM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods >> >> I apologize if I already posted this, but the Zen Stone is a real good >> option, I have one myself, but it's capacity is only a few GB, and it >> doesn't support lossless or uncompressed formats. >> >> Valiant8086 (on laptop) wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> If you're trying to use one with rockbox, go to http://rockbox.org and >>> look for information on which players rockbox supports. If you just >>> want something user friendly without needing rockbox you can try >>> milestone 311 or >>> 12 coming soon, vi player, zen stone (a really good option), or you >>> can even use an olympus ds series recorder to play MP3, WMA and I think >>> >> WAV files. >> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 4:10 PM >>> Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> High Valiant8086 on laptop, >>>> Which one is? >>>> I am looking for one that is blind user friendly. >>>> I prefer an Ipod that can play uncompressed files. >>>> Does anyone have any suggestions? >>>> Thanks. >>>> John. >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "Valiant8086 (on laptop)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 9:09 PM >>>> Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi. >>>>> As far as I know, the last time I checked, the Nano was not >>>>> supported by rockbox. In fact, it specificall
Re: A Question About IPods
Hello everyone, I'd rather have a portable media player that can play uncompressed audio files. I won't just be listening to it through a pare of headphones, I will be listening to it through a very high quality portable sound system which I will build for it myself. To me, uncompressed audio files sound better then loscy MP3 files. Which ipods play uncompressed audio files? John. - Original Message - From: "K. Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:04 PM Subject: RE: A Question About IPods > Either does an IPOD. > > Do some Googling And please let us know what you find out? > > Cheers...Keit > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain > Sent: May 14, 2008 6:19 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods > > I apologize if I already posted this, but the Zen Stone is a real good > option, I have one myself, but it's capacity is only a few GB, and it > doesn't support lossless or uncompressed formats. > > Valiant8086 (on laptop) wrote: >> Hi. >> If you're trying to use one with rockbox, go to http://rockbox.org and >> look for information on which players rockbox supports. If you just >> want something user friendly without needing rockbox you can try >> milestone 311 or >> 12 coming soon, vi player, zen stone (a really good option), or you >> can even use an olympus ds series recorder to play MP3, WMA and I think > WAV files. >> >> ----- Original Message - >> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 4:10 PM >> Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods >> >> >> >>> High Valiant8086 on laptop, >>> Which one is? >>> I am looking for one that is blind user friendly. >>> I prefer an Ipod that can play uncompressed files. >>> Does anyone have any suggestions? >>> Thanks. >>> John. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Valiant8086 (on laptop)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 9:09 PM >>> Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi. >>>> As far as I know, the last time I checked, the Nano was not >>>> supported by rockbox. In fact, it specifically said it wasn't. >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "constantine (on laptop)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:47 PM >>>> Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Yes, rockbox makes the nano a lot more user friendly. I have an >>>>> ipod video 30 gb here, but its basically the same thing. >>>>> And now that the new rockbox installer is out, no more of that >>>>> going into the command prompt; its all done for you, and its very >>>>> painless. voices can be found at: >>>>> http://www.tbrn.net/rockbox >>>>> the rockbox manual is very intuitive. >>>>> They kater to us blind folks. >>>>> You have speech output afor files, menu items (pretty much all of >>>>> them, except perhaps an alarm- but who would use that). It gives >>>>> you battery status information, etc. It lets you specifically set up > sound settings. >>>>> You >>>>> get the option of choosing what the anti-skip buffer is- this >>>>> basically is like a portable cd player, with hard drive based >>>>> models that is. Since the nano is flash based, no real need for >>>>> that here- a waiste of battery and it wouldn't work anyway. You can >>>>> choose to shuffle, repeat, or repeat all, as well as shuffle >>>>> repeat, and I'm not sure what else. Crossfading and fade in and >>>>> fade out are all options too. You can even make .talk clips >>>>> painlessly with the voicebox utility. Basically, while your ipod is >>>>> plugged into the pc, you open this utility up, set a few very >>>>> simple options such as voice directories or voice file names, and >>>>> set it if you want it to notify you when it has finished. Now you >>>>> choose the drive that your ipod reprisents (for me it is g, but it >>>>> ca
Re: A Question About IPods
But rockbox does, as people have stated before. Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood! contact details: email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "K. Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 8:04 PM Subject: RE: A Question About IPods > Either does an IPOD. > > Do some Googling And please let us know what you find out? > > Cheers...Keit > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain > Sent: May 14, 2008 6:19 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods > > I apologize if I already posted this, but the Zen Stone is a real good > option, I have one myself, but it's capacity is only a few GB, and it > doesn't support lossless or uncompressed formats. > > Valiant8086 (on laptop) wrote: >> Hi. >> If you're trying to use one with rockbox, go to http://rockbox.org and >> look for information on which players rockbox supports. If you just >> want something user friendly without needing rockbox you can try >> milestone 311 or >> 12 coming soon, vi player, zen stone (a really good option), or you >> can even use an olympus ds series recorder to play MP3, WMA and I think > WAV files. >> >> ----- Original Message - >> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 4:10 PM >> Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods >> >> >> >>> High Valiant8086 on laptop, >>> Which one is? >>> I am looking for one that is blind user friendly. >>> I prefer an Ipod that can play uncompressed files. >>> Does anyone have any suggestions? >>> Thanks. >>> John. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Valiant8086 (on laptop)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 9:09 PM >>> Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi. >>>> As far as I know, the last time I checked, the Nano was not >>>> supported by rockbox. In fact, it specifically said it wasn't. >>>> - Original Message - >>>> From: "constantine (on laptop)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:47 PM >>>> Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Yes, rockbox makes the nano a lot more user friendly. I have an >>>>> ipod video 30 gb here, but its basically the same thing. >>>>> And now that the new rockbox installer is out, no more of that >>>>> going into the command prompt; its all done for you, and its very >>>>> painless. voices can be found at: >>>>> http://www.tbrn.net/rockbox >>>>> the rockbox manual is very intuitive. >>>>> They kater to us blind folks. >>>>> You have speech output afor files, menu items (pretty much all of >>>>> them, except perhaps an alarm- but who would use that). It gives >>>>> you battery status information, etc. It lets you specifically set up > sound settings. >>>>> You >>>>> get the option of choosing what the anti-skip buffer is- this >>>>> basically is like a portable cd player, with hard drive based >>>>> models that is. Since the nano is flash based, no real need for >>>>> that here- a waiste of battery and it wouldn't work anyway. You can >>>>> choose to shuffle, repeat, or repeat all, as well as shuffle >>>>> repeat, and I'm not sure what else. Crossfading and fade in and >>>>> fade out are all options too. You can even make .talk clips >>>>> painlessly with the voicebox utility. Basically, while your ipod is >>>>> plugged into the pc, you open this utility up, set a few very >>>>> simple options such as voice directories or voice file names, and >>>>> set it if you want it to notify you when it has finished. Now you >>>>> choose the drive that your ipod reprisents (for me it is g, but it >>>>> can be anything). Now press enter on run, I thi
RE: A Question About IPods
Either does an IPOD. Do some Googling And please let us know what you find out? Cheers...Keit -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: May 14, 2008 6:19 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods I apologize if I already posted this, but the Zen Stone is a real good option, I have one myself, but it's capacity is only a few GB, and it doesn't support lossless or uncompressed formats. Valiant8086 (on laptop) wrote: > Hi. > If you're trying to use one with rockbox, go to http://rockbox.org and > look for information on which players rockbox supports. If you just > want something user friendly without needing rockbox you can try > milestone 311 or > 12 coming soon, vi player, zen stone (a really good option), or you > can even use an olympus ds series recorder to play MP3, WMA and I think WAV files. > > - Original Message - > From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 4:10 PM > Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods > > > >> High Valiant8086 on laptop, >> Which one is? >> I am looking for one that is blind user friendly. >> I prefer an Ipod that can play uncompressed files. >> Does anyone have any suggestions? >> Thanks. >> John. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Valiant8086 (on laptop)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 9:09 PM >> Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods >> >> >> >>> Hi. >>> As far as I know, the last time I checked, the Nano was not >>> supported by rockbox. In fact, it specifically said it wasn't. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "constantine (on laptop)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:47 PM >>> Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods >>> >>> >>> >>>> Yes, rockbox makes the nano a lot more user friendly. I have an >>>> ipod video 30 gb here, but its basically the same thing. >>>> And now that the new rockbox installer is out, no more of that >>>> going into the command prompt; its all done for you, and its very >>>> painless. voices can be found at: >>>> http://www.tbrn.net/rockbox >>>> the rockbox manual is very intuitive. >>>> They kater to us blind folks. >>>> You have speech output afor files, menu items (pretty much all of >>>> them, except perhaps an alarm- but who would use that). It gives >>>> you battery status information, etc. It lets you specifically set up sound settings. >>>> You >>>> get the option of choosing what the anti-skip buffer is- this >>>> basically is like a portable cd player, with hard drive based >>>> models that is. Since the nano is flash based, no real need for >>>> that here- a waiste of battery and it wouldn't work anyway. You can >>>> choose to shuffle, repeat, or repeat all, as well as shuffle >>>> repeat, and I'm not sure what else. Crossfading and fade in and >>>> fade out are all options too. You can even make .talk clips >>>> painlessly with the voicebox utility. Basically, while your ipod is >>>> plugged into the pc, you open this utility up, set a few very >>>> simple options such as voice directories or voice file names, and >>>> set it if you want it to notify you when it has finished. Now you >>>> choose the drive that your ipod reprisents (for me it is g, but it >>>> can be anything). Now press enter on run, I think the button is >>>> called- and, using your default sapi 5 voice, it will convert the >>>> spelled out names you'd usually here (for example, dog would be d, >>>> o, g, very annoying), to full speech. Of course if you don't have >>>> sapi 5 this might be an issue, however, I personally would use e >>>> speech. It is free and it doesn't sound half bad and, most of all, >>>> it can be quite quick if you have long file names. Its used in the >>>> open source screen reader NVDA, (nonvisual desktop access)if anyone >>>> cares to know. >>>> >>>> >>>> hth! >>>> >>>> >>>> Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood! >>>> >>>> contact details: >>>> >>>> email:
Re: A Question About Ipods
I apologize if I already posted this, but the Zen Stone is a real good option, I have one myself, but it's capacity is only a few GB, and it doesn't support lossless or uncompressed formats. Valiant8086 (on laptop) wrote: > Hi. > If you're trying to use one with rockbox, go to http://rockbox.org and look > for information on which players rockbox supports. If you just want > something user friendly without needing rockbox you can try milestone 311 or > 12 coming soon, vi player, zen stone (a really good option), or you can even > use an olympus ds series recorder to play MP3, WMA and I think WAV files. > > - Original Message - > From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 4:10 PM > Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods > > > >> High Valiant8086 on laptop, >> Which one is? >> I am looking for one that is blind user friendly. >> I prefer an Ipod that can play uncompressed files. >> Does anyone have any suggestions? >> Thanks. >> John. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Valiant8086 (on laptop)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 9:09 PM >> Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods >> >> >> >>> Hi. >>> As far as I know, the last time I checked, the Nano was not supported by >>> rockbox. In fact, it specifically said it wasn't. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "constantine (on laptop)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:47 PM >>> Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods >>> >>> >>> >>>> Yes, rockbox makes the nano a lot more user friendly. I have an ipod >>>> video >>>> 30 gb here, but its basically the same thing. >>>> And now that the new rockbox installer is out, no more of that going >>>> into >>>> the command prompt; its all done for you, and its very painless. voices >>>> can >>>> be found at: >>>> http://www.tbrn.net/rockbox >>>> the rockbox manual is very intuitive. >>>> They kater to us blind folks. >>>> You have speech output afor files, menu items (pretty much all of them, >>>> except perhaps an alarm- but who would use that). It gives you battery >>>> status information, etc. It lets you specifically set up sound settings. >>>> You >>>> get the option of choosing what the anti-skip buffer is- this basically >>>> is >>>> like a portable cd player, with hard drive based models that is. Since >>>> the >>>> nano is flash based, no real need for that here- a waiste of battery and >>>> it >>>> wouldn't work anyway. You can choose to shuffle, repeat, or repeat all, >>>> as >>>> well as shuffle repeat, and I'm not sure what else. Crossfading and fade >>>> in >>>> and fade out are all options too. You can even make .talk clips >>>> painlessly >>>> with the voicebox utility. Basically, while your ipod is plugged into >>>> the >>>> pc, you open this utility up, set a few very simple options such as >>>> voice >>>> directories or voice file names, and set it if you want it to notify you >>>> when it has finished. Now you choose the drive that your ipod reprisents >>>> (for me it is g, but it can be anything). Now press enter on run, I >>>> think >>>> the button is called- and, using your default sapi 5 voice, it will >>>> convert >>>> the spelled out names you'd usually here (for example, dog would be d, >>>> o, >>>> g, >>>> very annoying), to full speech. Of course if you don't have sapi 5 this >>>> might be an issue, however, I personally would use e speech. It is free >>>> and >>>> it doesn't sound half bad and, most of all, it can be quite quick if you >>>> have long file names. Its used in the open source screen reader NVDA, >>>> (nonvisual desktop access)if anyone cares to know. >>>> >>>> >>>> hth! >>>> >>>> >>>> Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood! >>>> >>>> contact details: >>>> >>>>
Re: A Question About Ipods
Hi. Ok I stand corrected, nano works. - Original Message - From: "Christopher Chaltain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 5:37 PM Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods Well, there's no need to guess, just go to rockbox.org and right on the front page it says the following with respect to supported players: • Apple: 1st through 5.5th generation iPod, iPod Mini and 1st generation iPod Nano (not the Shuffle, 2nd/3rd gen Nano, Classic or Touch) I don't use the Nano myself, but based on this I think there are at least some versions of the Nano that are supported by rockbox. Remember that Rockbox is a moving target, so to know which players are supported, go to the source and check the Rockbox web site. Rockbox does support some lossless (uncompressed) formats. Again, off the Rockbox page at WhyRockbox, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WhyRockbox, it says: Support for over 15 Sound Codecs, including OGG and FLAC MP3 and WAV. Obviously, FLAC and WAV are lossless formats. I assume most of the harddrive based players will support lossless formats, but best to check if you're going to use the native firmware. The Zen Stone, which is not a hard drive based player, doesn't support any lossless formats. I believe the Sansa does support lossless formats, but like I said, if you're not going to use Rockbox, best to check with the manufacturer's documentation. Good luck! DJ DOCTOR P wrote: > High Valiant8086 on laptop, > Which one is? > I am looking for one that is blind user friendly. > I prefer an Ipod that can play uncompressed files. > Does anyone have any suggestions? > Thanks. > John. > - Original Message - > From: "Valiant8086 (on laptop)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 9:09 PM > Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods > > > >> Hi. >> As far as I know, the last time I checked, the Nano was not supported by >> rockbox. In fact, it specifically said it wasn't. >> - Original Message - >> From: "constantine (on laptop)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:47 PM >> Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods >> >> >> >>> Yes, rockbox makes the nano a lot more user friendly. I have an ipod >>> video >>> 30 gb here, but its basically the same thing. >>> And now that the new rockbox installer is out, no more of that going >>> into >>> the command prompt; its all done for you, and its very painless. voices >>> can >>> be found at: >>> http://www.tbrn.net/rockbox >>> the rockbox manual is very intuitive. >>> They kater to us blind folks. >>> You have speech output afor files, menu items (pretty much all of them, >>> except perhaps an alarm- but who would use that). It gives you battery >>> status information, etc. It lets you specifically set up sound settings. >>> You >>> get the option of choosing what the anti-skip buffer is- this basically >>> is >>> like a portable cd player, with hard drive based models that is. Since >>> the >>> nano is flash based, no real need for that here- a waiste of battery and >>> it >>> wouldn't work anyway. You can choose to shuffle, repeat, or repeat all, >>> as >>> well as shuffle repeat, and I'm not sure what else. Crossfading and fade >>> in >>> and fade out are all options too. You can even make .talk clips >>> painlessly >>> with the voicebox utility. Basically, while your ipod is plugged into >>> the >>> pc, you open this utility up, set a few very simple options such as >>> voice >>> directories or voice file names, and set it if you want it to notify you >>> when it has finished. Now you choose the drive that your ipod reprisents >>> (for me it is g, but it can be anything). Now press enter on run, I >>> think >>> the button is called- and, using your default sapi 5 voice, it will >>> convert >>> the spelled out names you'd usually here (for example, dog would be d, >>> o, >>> g, >>> very annoying), to full speech. Of course if you don't have sapi 5 this >>> might be an issue, however, I personally would use e speech. It is free >>> and >>> it doesn't sound half bad and, most of all, it can be quite quick if you >>> have long file names. Its used in the open source screen reader NVDA, >>> (nonvisual desktop access)if anyone cares to know. >
Re: A Question About Ipods
Hi. If you're trying to use one with rockbox, go to http://rockbox.org and look for information on which players rockbox supports. If you just want something user friendly without needing rockbox you can try milestone 311 or 12 coming soon, vi player, zen stone (a really good option), or you can even use an olympus ds series recorder to play MP3, WMA and I think WAV files. - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 4:10 PM Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods > High Valiant8086 on laptop, > Which one is? > I am looking for one that is blind user friendly. > I prefer an Ipod that can play uncompressed files. > Does anyone have any suggestions? > Thanks. > John. > - Original Message - > From: "Valiant8086 (on laptop)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 9:09 PM > Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods > > >> Hi. >> As far as I know, the last time I checked, the Nano was not supported by >> rockbox. In fact, it specifically said it wasn't. >> - Original Message - >> From: "constantine (on laptop)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:47 PM >> Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods >> >> >>> Yes, rockbox makes the nano a lot more user friendly. I have an ipod >>> video >>> 30 gb here, but its basically the same thing. >>> And now that the new rockbox installer is out, no more of that going >>> into >>> the command prompt; its all done for you, and its very painless. voices >>> can >>> be found at: >>> http://www.tbrn.net/rockbox >>> the rockbox manual is very intuitive. >>> They kater to us blind folks. >>> You have speech output afor files, menu items (pretty much all of them, >>> except perhaps an alarm- but who would use that). It gives you battery >>> status information, etc. It lets you specifically set up sound settings. >>> You >>> get the option of choosing what the anti-skip buffer is- this basically >>> is >>> like a portable cd player, with hard drive based models that is. Since >>> the >>> nano is flash based, no real need for that here- a waiste of battery and >>> it >>> wouldn't work anyway. You can choose to shuffle, repeat, or repeat all, >>> as >>> well as shuffle repeat, and I'm not sure what else. Crossfading and fade >>> in >>> and fade out are all options too. You can even make .talk clips >>> painlessly >>> with the voicebox utility. Basically, while your ipod is plugged into >>> the >>> pc, you open this utility up, set a few very simple options such as >>> voice >>> directories or voice file names, and set it if you want it to notify you >>> when it has finished. Now you choose the drive that your ipod reprisents >>> (for me it is g, but it can be anything). Now press enter on run, I >>> think >>> the button is called- and, using your default sapi 5 voice, it will >>> convert >>> the spelled out names you'd usually here (for example, dog would be d, >>> o, >>> g, >>> very annoying), to full speech. Of course if you don't have sapi 5 this >>> might be an issue, however, I personally would use e speech. It is free >>> and >>> it doesn't sound half bad and, most of all, it can be quite quick if you >>> have long file names. Its used in the open source screen reader NVDA, >>> (nonvisual desktop access)if anyone cares to know. >>> >>> >>> hth! >>> >>> >>> Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood! >>> >>> contact details: >>> >>> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> skype: the_conman283 >>> >>> system details: >>> Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc >>> AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, >>> Fujitsu >>> 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " >>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:30 PM >>> Subject: A Question About Ipods >>> >>> >>>> Hello List Members, >>>> I am thinking about getting an ipod. >>>> The one that I have my
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THe ipod video is. I'm positive the ipod photo can- check on rockbox website. It lists all of them. Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood! contact details: email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 2:10 PM Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods > High Valiant8086 on laptop, > Which one is? > I am looking for one that is blind user friendly. > I prefer an Ipod that can play uncompressed files. > Does anyone have any suggestions? > Thanks. > John. > - Original Message - > From: "Valiant8086 (on laptop)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 9:09 PM > Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods > > >> Hi. >> As far as I know, the last time I checked, the Nano was not supported by >> rockbox. In fact, it specifically said it wasn't. >> - Original Message - >> From: "constantine (on laptop)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:47 PM >> Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods >> >> >>> Yes, rockbox makes the nano a lot more user friendly. I have an ipod >>> video >>> 30 gb here, but its basically the same thing. >>> And now that the new rockbox installer is out, no more of that going >>> into >>> the command prompt; its all done for you, and its very painless. voices >>> can >>> be found at: >>> http://www.tbrn.net/rockbox >>> the rockbox manual is very intuitive. >>> They kater to us blind folks. >>> You have speech output afor files, menu items (pretty much all of them, >>> except perhaps an alarm- but who would use that). It gives you battery >>> status information, etc. It lets you specifically set up sound settings. >>> You >>> get the option of choosing what the anti-skip buffer is- this basically >>> is >>> like a portable cd player, with hard drive based models that is. Since >>> the >>> nano is flash based, no real need for that here- a waiste of battery and >>> it >>> wouldn't work anyway. You can choose to shuffle, repeat, or repeat all, >>> as >>> well as shuffle repeat, and I'm not sure what else. Crossfading and fade >>> in >>> and fade out are all options too. You can even make .talk clips >>> painlessly >>> with the voicebox utility. Basically, while your ipod is plugged into >>> the >>> pc, you open this utility up, set a few very simple options such as >>> voice >>> directories or voice file names, and set it if you want it to notify you >>> when it has finished. Now you choose the drive that your ipod reprisents >>> (for me it is g, but it can be anything). Now press enter on run, I >>> think >>> the button is called- and, using your default sapi 5 voice, it will >>> convert >>> the spelled out names you'd usually here (for example, dog would be d, >>> o, >>> g, >>> very annoying), to full speech. Of course if you don't have sapi 5 this >>> might be an issue, however, I personally would use e speech. It is free >>> and >>> it doesn't sound half bad and, most of all, it can be quite quick if you >>> have long file names. Its used in the open source screen reader NVDA, >>> (nonvisual desktop access)if anyone cares to know. >>> >>> >>> hth! >>> >>> >>> Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood! >>> >>> contact details: >>> >>> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> skype: the_conman283 >>> >>> system details: >>> Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc >>> AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, >>> Fujitsu >>> 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " >>> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:30 PM >>> Subject: A Question About Ipods >>> >>> >>>> Hello List Members, >>>> I am thinking about getting an ipod. >>>&g
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Well, there's no need to guess, just go to rockbox.org and right on the front page it says the following with respect to supported players: • Apple: 1st through 5.5th generation iPod, iPod Mini and 1st generation iPod Nano (not the Shuffle, 2nd/3rd gen Nano, Classic or Touch) I don't use the Nano myself, but based on this I think there are at least some versions of the Nano that are supported by rockbox. Remember that Rockbox is a moving target, so to know which players are supported, go to the source and check the Rockbox web site. Rockbox does support some lossless (uncompressed) formats. Again, off the Rockbox page at WhyRockbox, http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WhyRockbox, it says: Support for over 15 Sound Codecs, including OGG and FLAC MP3 and WAV. Obviously, FLAC and WAV are lossless formats. I assume most of the harddrive based players will support lossless formats, but best to check if you're going to use the native firmware. The Zen Stone, which is not a hard drive based player, doesn't support any lossless formats. I believe the Sansa does support lossless formats, but like I said, if you're not going to use Rockbox, best to check with the manufacturer's documentation. Good luck! DJ DOCTOR P wrote: > High Valiant8086 on laptop, > Which one is? > I am looking for one that is blind user friendly. > I prefer an Ipod that can play uncompressed files. > Does anyone have any suggestions? > Thanks. > John. > - Original Message - > From: "Valiant8086 (on laptop)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 9:09 PM > Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods > > > >> Hi. >> As far as I know, the last time I checked, the Nano was not supported by >> rockbox. In fact, it specifically said it wasn't. >> - Original Message - >> From: "constantine (on laptop)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" >> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:47 PM >> Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods >> >> >> >>> Yes, rockbox makes the nano a lot more user friendly. I have an ipod >>> video >>> 30 gb here, but its basically the same thing. >>> And now that the new rockbox installer is out, no more of that going into >>> the command prompt; its all done for you, and its very painless. voices >>> can >>> be found at: >>> http://www.tbrn.net/rockbox >>> the rockbox manual is very intuitive. >>> They kater to us blind folks. >>> You have speech output afor files, menu items (pretty much all of them, >>> except perhaps an alarm- but who would use that). It gives you battery >>> status information, etc. It lets you specifically set up sound settings. >>> You >>> get the option of choosing what the anti-skip buffer is- this basically >>> is >>> like a portable cd player, with hard drive based models that is. Since >>> the >>> nano is flash based, no real need for that here- a waiste of battery and >>> it >>> wouldn't work anyway. You can choose to shuffle, repeat, or repeat all, >>> as >>> well as shuffle repeat, and I'm not sure what else. Crossfading and fade >>> in >>> and fade out are all options too. You can even make .talk clips >>> painlessly >>> with the voicebox utility. Basically, while your ipod is plugged into the >>> pc, you open this utility up, set a few very simple options such as voice >>> directories or voice file names, and set it if you want it to notify you >>> when it has finished. Now you choose the drive that your ipod reprisents >>> (for me it is g, but it can be anything). Now press enter on run, I think >>> the button is called- and, using your default sapi 5 voice, it will >>> convert >>> the spelled out names you'd usually here (for example, dog would be d, o, >>> g, >>> very annoying), to full speech. Of course if you don't have sapi 5 this >>> might be an issue, however, I personally would use e speech. It is free >>> and >>> it doesn't sound half bad and, most of all, it can be quite quick if you >>> have long file names. Its used in the open source screen reader NVDA, >>> (nonvisual desktop access)if anyone cares to know. >>> >>> >>> hth! >>> >>> >>> Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood! >>> >>> contact details: >>> >>> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> skype: the_conman283 >>&
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High Valiant8086 on laptop, Which one is? I am looking for one that is blind user friendly. I prefer an Ipod that can play uncompressed files. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks. John. - Original Message - From: "Valiant8086 (on laptop)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 9:09 PM Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods > Hi. > As far as I know, the last time I checked, the Nano was not supported by > rockbox. In fact, it specifically said it wasn't. > - Original Message - > From: "constantine (on laptop)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:47 PM > Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods > > >> Yes, rockbox makes the nano a lot more user friendly. I have an ipod >> video >> 30 gb here, but its basically the same thing. >> And now that the new rockbox installer is out, no more of that going into >> the command prompt; its all done for you, and its very painless. voices >> can >> be found at: >> http://www.tbrn.net/rockbox >> the rockbox manual is very intuitive. >> They kater to us blind folks. >> You have speech output afor files, menu items (pretty much all of them, >> except perhaps an alarm- but who would use that). It gives you battery >> status information, etc. It lets you specifically set up sound settings. >> You >> get the option of choosing what the anti-skip buffer is- this basically >> is >> like a portable cd player, with hard drive based models that is. Since >> the >> nano is flash based, no real need for that here- a waiste of battery and >> it >> wouldn't work anyway. You can choose to shuffle, repeat, or repeat all, >> as >> well as shuffle repeat, and I'm not sure what else. Crossfading and fade >> in >> and fade out are all options too. You can even make .talk clips >> painlessly >> with the voicebox utility. Basically, while your ipod is plugged into the >> pc, you open this utility up, set a few very simple options such as voice >> directories or voice file names, and set it if you want it to notify you >> when it has finished. Now you choose the drive that your ipod reprisents >> (for me it is g, but it can be anything). Now press enter on run, I think >> the button is called- and, using your default sapi 5 voice, it will >> convert >> the spelled out names you'd usually here (for example, dog would be d, o, >> g, >> very annoying), to full speech. Of course if you don't have sapi 5 this >> might be an issue, however, I personally would use e speech. It is free >> and >> it doesn't sound half bad and, most of all, it can be quite quick if you >> have long file names. Its used in the open source screen reader NVDA, >> (nonvisual desktop access)if anyone cares to know. >> >> >> hth! >> >> >> Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood! >> >> contact details: >> >> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> skype: the_conman283 >> >> system details: >> Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc >> AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, >> Fujitsu >> 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio >> - Original Message - >> From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " >> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:30 PM >> Subject: A Question About Ipods >> >> >>> Hello List Members, >>> I am thinking about getting an ipod. >>> The one that I have my mind sat on, is the Apple Nano 8 gig. >>> My question is, how user friendly is the Apple Nano for blind people? >>> And also, would Rock Box make it more user friendly for me? >>> Thanks in advance. >>> My best regards. >>> John. >>> >>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.11/1422 - Release Date: >> 5/8/2008 >> 5:24 PM >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.14/1425 - Release Date: >> 5/9/2008 >> 12:38 PM >> >> > > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi. As far as I know, the last time I checked, the Nano was not supported by rockbox. In fact, it specifically said it wasn't. - Original Message - From: "constantine (on laptop)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 8:47 PM Subject: Re: A Question About Ipods > Yes, rockbox makes the nano a lot more user friendly. I have an ipod video > 30 gb here, but its basically the same thing. > And now that the new rockbox installer is out, no more of that going into > the command prompt; its all done for you, and its very painless. voices > can > be found at: > http://www.tbrn.net/rockbox > the rockbox manual is very intuitive. > They kater to us blind folks. > You have speech output afor files, menu items (pretty much all of them, > except perhaps an alarm- but who would use that). It gives you battery > status information, etc. It lets you specifically set up sound settings. > You > get the option of choosing what the anti-skip buffer is- this basically is > like a portable cd player, with hard drive based models that is. Since the > nano is flash based, no real need for that here- a waiste of battery and > it > wouldn't work anyway. You can choose to shuffle, repeat, or repeat all, as > well as shuffle repeat, and I'm not sure what else. Crossfading and fade > in > and fade out are all options too. You can even make .talk clips painlessly > with the voicebox utility. Basically, while your ipod is plugged into the > pc, you open this utility up, set a few very simple options such as voice > directories or voice file names, and set it if you want it to notify you > when it has finished. Now you choose the drive that your ipod reprisents > (for me it is g, but it can be anything). Now press enter on run, I think > the button is called- and, using your default sapi 5 voice, it will > convert > the spelled out names you'd usually here (for example, dog would be d, o, > g, > very annoying), to full speech. Of course if you don't have sapi 5 this > might be an issue, however, I personally would use e speech. It is free > and > it doesn't sound half bad and, most of all, it can be quite quick if you > have long file names. Its used in the open source screen reader NVDA, > (nonvisual desktop access)if anyone cares to know. > > > hth! > > > Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood! > > contact details: > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > skype: the_conman283 > > system details: > Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc > AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, > Fujitsu > 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio > - Original Message - > From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:30 PM > Subject: A Question About Ipods > > >> Hello List Members, >> I am thinking about getting an ipod. >> The one that I have my mind sat on, is the Apple Nano 8 gig. >> My question is, how user friendly is the Apple Nano for blind people? >> And also, would Rock Box make it more user friendly for me? >> Thanks in advance. >> My best regards. >> John. >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.11/1422 - Release Date: 5/8/2008 > 5:24 PM > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.14/1425 - Release Date: 5/9/2008 > 12:38 PM > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Yes, rockbox makes the nano a lot more user friendly. I have an ipod video 30 gb here, but its basically the same thing. And now that the new rockbox installer is out, no more of that going into the command prompt; its all done for you, and its very painless. voices can be found at: http://www.tbrn.net/rockbox the rockbox manual is very intuitive. They kater to us blind folks. You have speech output afor files, menu items (pretty much all of them, except perhaps an alarm- but who would use that). It gives you battery status information, etc. It lets you specifically set up sound settings. You get the option of choosing what the anti-skip buffer is- this basically is like a portable cd player, with hard drive based models that is. Since the nano is flash based, no real need for that here- a waiste of battery and it wouldn't work anyway. You can choose to shuffle, repeat, or repeat all, as well as shuffle repeat, and I'm not sure what else. Crossfading and fade in and fade out are all options too. You can even make .talk clips painlessly with the voicebox utility. Basically, while your ipod is plugged into the pc, you open this utility up, set a few very simple options such as voice directories or voice file names, and set it if you want it to notify you when it has finished. Now you choose the drive that your ipod reprisents (for me it is g, but it can be anything). Now press enter on run, I think the button is called- and, using your default sapi 5 voice, it will convert the spelled out names you'd usually here (for example, dog would be d, o, g, very annoying), to full speech. Of course if you don't have sapi 5 this might be an issue, however, I personally would use e speech. It is free and it doesn't sound half bad and, most of all, it can be quite quick if you have long file names. Its used in the open source screen reader NVDA, (nonvisual desktop access)if anyone cares to know. hth! Have a good day from Tyler C. Wood! contact details: email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: the_conman283 system details: Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio - Original Message - From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:30 PM Subject: A Question About Ipods > Hello List Members, > I am thinking about getting an ipod. > The one that I have my mind sat on, is the Apple Nano 8 gig. > My question is, how user friendly is the Apple Nano for blind people? > And also, would Rock Box make it more user friendly for me? > Thanks in advance. > My best regards. > John. > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.11/1422 - Release Date: 5/8/2008 5:24 PM Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A Question About Ipods
Hello List Members, I am thinking about getting an ipod. The one that I have my mind sat on, is the Apple Nano 8 gig. My question is, how user friendly is the Apple Nano for blind people? And also, would Rock Box make it more user friendly for me? Thanks in advance. My best regards. John. Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
