Re: Digital audio question

2014-04-11 Thread Curtis Delzer
speaking of digital formats, converting *.wav files to lostless formats,
is there a way to keep all the marks put into the original *.wav files
in the lossless codek?

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On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 22:19:52 -0400
Gary Schindler garys5...@comcast.net wrote:

 Don, the system is called atrac, which stands for Audio Transform acoustics 
 or something like that. it is near CD quality, 128 KBPS with a sampling rate 
 of 32 kilobytes.
 
 
 
 - Original Message - From: Donald L. Roberts 
 donald.robert...@gmail.com
 To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
 Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 9:55 PM
 Subject: Digital audio question
 
 
 
  Though the system is obsolete, I still enjoy using my mini disc players.  
  Until now, I have always made analog copies of material I wanted on mini  
  disc.  But I would like to know specifically which digital audio format is 
   used when making a digital copy on to mini disc.  I am aware of the  
  limitations caused by the mini disc's digital serial copy management  
  system.
 
  Thanks for feedback.
 
  Don Roberts
  




Re: Digital audio question

2014-04-07 Thread Gary Schindler
the other device will convert the digital audio output to the 44.1 sampling 
rate. you used to be able to buy a unit that you could force copy to cd or 
another mini disc but you can't any more.



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From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: Digital audio question


I imagine if you use the digital output jacks, it will send uncompressed 
digital audio as decoded from the Atrak on the disk. I'm not sure if the 
Minidisc players convert the sample rate to 44.1 khz when outputting 
digitally, or if the device at the other end has to support the 32 khz on 
the disk.


- Original Message - 
From: Gary Schindler garys5...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: Digital audio question


Don, the system is called atrac, which stands for Audio Transform 
acoustics or something like that. it is near CD quality, 128 KBPS with a 
sampling rate of 32 kilobytes.




- Original Message - 
From: Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 9:55 PM
Subject: Digital audio question




Though the system is obsolete, I still enjoy using my mini disc players. 
Until now, I have always made analog copies of material I wanted on mini 
disc.  But I would like to know specifically which digital audio format 
is used when making a digital copy on to mini disc.  I am aware of the 
limitations caused by the mini disc's digital serial copy management 
system.


Thanks for feedback.

Don Roberts













Re: Digital audio question

2014-04-07 Thread Donald L. Roberts
Thanks to both Gary and to Dane for answering my question.  I apparently 
did not verbalize correctly.  What I am trying to find out is what 
digital format I need to use for the inputs.  In other words, instead of 
connecting the input device to the mini disc via analog connection, I 
want to use the digital input mode so that the beginning and end of 
track markers will be put in automatically.  When transferring pop stuff 
to mini disc, the markers work reasonably well.  But when attempting to 
transfer classical music, because of the quiet passages, sometimes extra 
start markers are inserted.


Again, thanks for responding.

Don Roberts


On 4/6/2014 7:19 PM, Gary Schindler wrote:

Don, the system is called atrac, which stands for Audio Transform
acoustics or something like that. it is near CD quality, 128 KBPS with a
sampling rate of 32 kilobytes.



- Original Message - From: Donald L. Roberts
donald.robert...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 9:55 PM
Subject: Digital audio question




Though the system is obsolete, I still enjoy using my mini disc
players. Until now, I have always made analog copies of material I
wanted on mini disc.  But I would like to know specifically which
digital audio format is used when making a digital copy on to mini
disc.  I am aware of the limitations caused by the mini disc's digital
serial copy management system.

Thanks for feedback.

Don Roberts




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Re: Digital audio question

2014-04-07 Thread Gary Schindler
Use a Toslink digital optical or SPDIF coaxial cable depending what is on 
the machine.


- Original Message - 
From: Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: Digital audio question


Thanks to both Gary and to Dane for answering my question.  I apparently 
did not verbalize correctly.  What I am trying to find out is what digital 
format I need to use for the inputs.  In other words, instead of 
connecting the input device to the mini disc via analog connection, I want 
to use the digital input mode so that the beginning and end of track 
markers will be put in automatically.  When transferring pop stuff to mini 
disc, the markers work reasonably well.  But when attempting to transfer 
classical music, because of the quiet passages, sometimes extra start 
markers are inserted.


Again, thanks for responding.

Don Roberts


On 4/6/2014 7:19 PM, Gary Schindler wrote:

Don, the system is called atrac, which stands for Audio Transform
acoustics or something like that. it is near CD quality, 128 KBPS with a
sampling rate of 32 kilobytes.



- Original Message - From: Donald L. Roberts
donald.robert...@gmail.com
To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 9:55 PM
Subject: Digital audio question




Though the system is obsolete, I still enjoy using my mini disc
players. Until now, I have always made analog copies of material I
wanted on mini disc.  But I would like to know specifically which
digital audio format is used when making a digital copy on to mini
disc.  I am aware of the limitations caused by the mini disc's digital
serial copy management system.

Thanks for feedback.

Don Roberts




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Digital audio question

2014-04-06 Thread Donald L. Roberts


Though the system is obsolete, I still enjoy using my mini disc players. 
 Until now, I have always made analog copies of material I wanted on 
mini disc.  But I would like to know specifically which digital audio 
format is used when making a digital copy on to mini disc.  I am aware 
of the limitations caused by the mini disc's digital serial copy 
management system.


Thanks for feedback.

Don Roberts



Re: Digital audio question

2014-04-06 Thread Dane Trethowan
I still use Minidisc but not all that often, as far as I'm aware all Minidisc 
players and recorders use the Attrac format developed for the Minidisc recorder 
in the beginning though the format has undergone some changes over 20 years.

Even the Sony MD I have which connects to the computer and allows the importing 
of MP3 files etc doesn't store the files as MP3 on the Minidisc, the files are 
decoded and then re-encoded into ATTRAC format for the Minidisc to play/Edit so 
I'd imagine - if you're doing a direct digital copy - the signal will be 
compressed to the ATTRAC format and the sample rate selection will most likely 
be automatically selected for you unless otherwise specified by your particular 
Minidisc model.



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 On 7 Apr 2014, at 11:55 am, Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 Though the system is obsolete, I still enjoy using my mini disc players.  
 Until now, I have always made analog copies of material I wanted on mini 
 disc.  But I would like to know specifically which digital audio format is 
 used when making a digital copy on to mini disc.  I am aware of the 
 limitations caused by the mini disc's digital serial copy management system.
 
 Thanks for feedback.
 
 Don Roberts
 



Re: Digital audio question

2014-04-06 Thread Gary Schindler
Don, the system is called atrac, which stands for Audio Transform acoustics 
or something like that. it is near CD quality, 128 KBPS with a sampling rate 
of 32 kilobytes.




- Original Message - 
From: Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 9:55 PM
Subject: Digital audio question




Though the system is obsolete, I still enjoy using my mini disc players. 
Until now, I have always made analog copies of material I wanted on mini 
disc.  But I would like to know specifically which digital audio format is 
used when making a digital copy on to mini disc.  I am aware of the 
limitations caused by the mini disc's digital serial copy management 
system.


Thanks for feedback.

Don Roberts






Re: Digital audio question

2014-04-06 Thread Brent Harding
I imagine if you use the digital output jacks, it will send uncompressed 
digital audio as decoded from the Atrak on the disk. I'm not sure if the 
Minidisc players convert the sample rate to 44.1 khz when outputting 
digitally, or if the device at the other end has to support the 32 khz on 
the disk.


- Original Message - 
From: Gary Schindler garys5...@comcast.net

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: Digital audio question


Don, the system is called atrac, which stands for Audio Transform 
acoustics or something like that. it is near CD quality, 128 KBPS with a 
sampling rate of 32 kilobytes.




- Original Message - 
From: Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com

To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 9:55 PM
Subject: Digital audio question




Though the system is obsolete, I still enjoy using my mini disc players. 
Until now, I have always made analog copies of material I wanted on mini 
disc.  But I would like to know specifically which digital audio format 
is used when making a digital copy on to mini disc.  I am aware of the 
limitations caused by the mini disc's digital serial copy management 
system.


Thanks for feedback.

Don Roberts