RE: Question about Real Alternative

2006-10-26 Thread Tim Grady
If you have Realplayer installed then Real Alternative is a backward step in
players.  You shouldn't uninstall Realplayer as Real Alternative can't play
a lot of formats Realplayer can.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Kathy Szinnyey
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 6:18 AM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Question about Real Alternative

Anyone out there using this program?  It's supposed to be a way to play 
Realplayer files but I guess easier to use?  When I downloaded it, though, 
it wanted me to uninstall Realplayer, which I was not about to do, having 
gone through many hoops to install my Realplayer 10.5.

Also, since I'm on this subject, is there some plug-in for me to play 
Realplayer rax files in Winamp?  I still don't quite get plug-ins, believe 
it or not.

Thanks for any help you all might have.

Peace,
Kathy


Kathy Szinnyey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: "Kathy Szinnyey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: Is there such a thing as a blind 
friendlyplayerthatplaysbothRAXand Wma/drm files?


> Yeah, that's why I look for the cheaper players.  I hate spending money on
> stuff like this, but I also like the stuff, so that's my compromise! 
> Smile.
>
>
> Kathy Szinnyey
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> or
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 9:57 AM
> Subject: Re: Is there such a thing as a blind
> friendlyplayerthatplaysbothRAXand Wma/drm files?
>
>
>> Wow! I thought flashing was completely irreversible. I guess if I wanted
>> to
>> play DRM files, I get a cheap player for that purpose only. I heard, all
>> be
>> it more expensive, that the Iaudio X5 also would do DRM files, but not
>> sure
>> it suffers the same affliction when Rockbox is flashed.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Keith Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 7:01 AM
>> Subject: Re: Is there such a thing as a blind
>> friendlyplayerthatplaysbothRAXand Wma/drm files?
>>
>>
>>> Once you flash rockbox, Your DRM capability is pernimantly gone.  You 
>>> can
>>> blaime this on DRM as it was written to be virtually tamper proof.
>>>
>>> Bad Microsoft eh?
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 8:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Is there such a thing as a blind friendly
>>> playerthatplaysbothRAXand Wma/drm files?
>>>
>>>
>>> Does putting the DRM-capable firmware back get the capability back? Or
>>> does
>>> the Rockbox site really mean permanent when they say that flashing their
>>> software to a 3x series Iriver destroys DRM capability in the sense that
>>> reverting back won't restore that ability.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Jeff Samco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 9:26 PM
>>> Subject: RE: Is there such a thing as a blind friendly player
>>> thatplaysbothRAXand Wma/drm files?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Rick,
>>>>
>>>> I do not use any DRM files so won't be able to comment on this.
>>>> However, when I next off-load some files I will locate a very large
>>>> MP3 file and see how it works with the resume feature. How large of
>>>> an MP3 file do you recommend using for this test?
>>>> Other than the resume feature, there is no bookmarking feature I am
>>>> aware of. By the way, I immediately replaced the original firmware
>>>> which required Windows Media Player transfer protocol, with iRiver's
>>>> USB mass storage capable firmware. That removes any capability of
>>>> loading DRM files. I'll post on the above in a few days.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> At 02:38 PM 10/21/2006, you wrote:
>>>>>Jeff,
>>>>>
>>>>>How does this player handle large DRM files in terms of bookmarking, 
>>>>>and
>>>>>bookmarking in general on o

Re: Question about Real Alternative

2006-10-25 Thread Gary Wood
Hi Cathy!  I use Real Alternative.  It works for me!
- Original Message - 
From: "Kathy Szinnyey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 6:18 AM
Subject: Question about Real Alternative


> Anyone out there using this program?  It's supposed to be a way to play
> Realplayer files but I guess easier to use?  When I downloaded it, though,
> it wanted me to uninstall Realplayer, which I was not about to do, having
> gone through many hoops to install my Realplayer 10.5.
>
> Also, since I'm on this subject, is there some plug-in for me to play
> Realplayer rax files in Winamp?  I still don't quite get plug-ins, believe
> it or not.
>
> Thanks for any help you all might have.
>
> Peace,
> Kathy
>
>
> Kathy Szinnyey
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> or
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Kathy Szinnyey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 6:10 AM
> Subject: Re: Is there such a thing as a blind
> friendlyplayerthatplaysbothRAXand Wma/drm files?
>
>
>> Yeah, that's why I look for the cheaper players.  I hate spending money 
>> on
>> stuff like this, but I also like the stuff, so that's my compromise!
>> Smile.
>>
>>
>> Kathy Szinnyey
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> or
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 9:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: Is there such a thing as a blind
>> friendlyplayerthatplaysbothRAXand Wma/drm files?
>>
>>
>>> Wow! I thought flashing was completely irreversible. I guess if I wanted
>>> to
>>> play DRM files, I get a cheap player for that purpose only. I heard, all
>>> be
>>> it more expensive, that the Iaudio X5 also would do DRM files, but not
>>> sure
>>> it suffers the same affliction when Rockbox is flashed.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Keith Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 7:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Is there such a thing as a blind
>>> friendlyplayerthatplaysbothRAXand Wma/drm files?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Once you flash rockbox, Your DRM capability is pernimantly gone.  You
>>>> can
>>>> blaime this on DRM as it was written to be virtually tamper proof.
>>>>
>>>> Bad Microsoft eh?
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 8:28 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Is there such a thing as a blind friendly
>>>> playerthatplaysbothRAXand Wma/drm files?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does putting the DRM-capable firmware back get the capability back? Or
>>>> does
>>>> the Rockbox site really mean permanent when they say that flashing 
>>>> their
>>>> software to a 3x series Iriver destroys DRM capability in the sense 
>>>> that
>>>> reverting back won't restore that ability.
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: "Jeff Samco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 9:26 PM
>>>> Subject: RE: Is there such a thing as a blind friendly player
>>>> thatplaysbothRAXand Wma/drm files?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Rick,
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not use any DRM files so won't be able to comment on this.
>>>>> However, when I next off-load some files I will locate a very large
>>>>> MP3 file and see how it works with the resume feature. How large of
>>>>> an MP3 file do you recommend using for this test?
>>>>> Other than the resume feature, there is no bookmarking feature I am
>>>>> aware of. By the way, I immediately replaced the original firmware
>>>>> which required Windows Media Player transfer protocol, with iRiver's
>>>>> USB mass storage capable firmware. That removes any capability of
>>>>> loading DRM files. I'll post on the above in a few days.
>>>&g

Re: Question about Real Alternative

2006-10-24 Thread Dana S. Leslie
Kathy,

I know of no way to play RAX files in Winamp. And, I'm not certain you can 
even play them with Real alternative.

The only reason I considered real alternative was that I was told I could 
use it to select a different output soundcard than the windows default card. 
Well, yes, you can select a different output card. But, I found, no matter 
which card I selected, the output still came through the default card, as if 
the selector weren't actually selecting anything. so, I said, "To Hell with 
Real alternative," and went back to the *real* Realplayer.
- Original Message - 
From: "Kathy Szinnyey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 6:18 AM
Subject: Question about Real Alternative


> Anyone out there using this program?  It's supposed to be a way to play
> Realplayer files but I guess easier to use?  When I downloaded it, though,
> it wanted me to uninstall Realplayer, which I was not about to do, having
> gone through many hoops to install my Realplayer 10.5.
>
> Also, since I'm on this subject, is there some plug-in for me to play
> Realplayer rax files in Winamp?  I still don't quite get plug-ins, believe
> it or not.
>
> Thanks for any help you all might have.
>
> Peace,
> Kathy
>
>
> Kathy Szinnyey
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> or
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Kathy Szinnyey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 6:10 AM
> Subject: Re: Is there such a thing as a blind
> friendlyplayerthatplaysbothRAXand Wma/drm files?
>
>
>> Yeah, that's why I look for the cheaper players.  I hate spending money 
>> on
>> stuff like this, but I also like the stuff, so that's my compromise!
>> Smile.
>>
>>
>> Kathy Szinnyey
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> or
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 9:57 AM
>> Subject: Re: Is there such a thing as a blind
>> friendlyplayerthatplaysbothRAXand Wma/drm files?
>>
>>
>>> Wow! I thought flashing was completely irreversible. I guess if I wanted
>>> to
>>> play DRM files, I get a cheap player for that purpose only. I heard, all
>>> be
>>> it more expensive, that the Iaudio X5 also would do DRM files, but not
>>> sure
>>> it suffers the same affliction when Rockbox is flashed.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Keith Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 7:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Is there such a thing as a blind
>>> friendlyplayerthatplaysbothRAXand Wma/drm files?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Once you flash rockbox, Your DRM capability is pernimantly gone.  You
>>>> can
>>>> blaime this on DRM as it was written to be virtually tamper proof.
>>>>
>>>> Bad Microsoft eh?
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 8:28 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Is there such a thing as a blind friendly
>>>> playerthatplaysbothRAXand Wma/drm files?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Does putting the DRM-capable firmware back get the capability back? Or
>>>> does
>>>> the Rockbox site really mean permanent when they say that flashing 
>>>> their
>>>> software to a 3x series Iriver destroys DRM capability in the sense 
>>>> that
>>>> reverting back won't restore that ability.
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: "Jeff Samco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>>> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 9:26 PM
>>>> Subject: RE: Is there such a thing as a blind friendly player
>>>> thatplaysbothRAXand Wma/drm files?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Rick,
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not use any DRM files so won't be able to comment on this.
>>>>> However, when I next off-load some files I will locate a very large
>>>>> MP3 file and see how it works with the resume feature. How large of
>&g

Question about Real Alternative

2006-10-24 Thread Kathy Szinnyey
Anyone out there using this program?  It's supposed to be a way to play 
Realplayer files but I guess easier to use?  When I downloaded it, though, 
it wanted me to uninstall Realplayer, which I was not about to do, having 
gone through many hoops to install my Realplayer 10.5.

Also, since I'm on this subject, is there some plug-in for me to play 
Realplayer rax files in Winamp?  I still don't quite get plug-ins, believe 
it or not.

Thanks for any help you all might have.

Peace,
Kathy


Kathy Szinnyey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message - 
From: "Kathy Szinnyey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: Is there such a thing as a blind 
friendlyplayerthatplaysbothRAXand Wma/drm files?


> Yeah, that's why I look for the cheaper players.  I hate spending money on
> stuff like this, but I also like the stuff, so that's my compromise! 
> Smile.
>
>
> Kathy Szinnyey
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> or
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 9:57 AM
> Subject: Re: Is there such a thing as a blind
> friendlyplayerthatplaysbothRAXand Wma/drm files?
>
>
>> Wow! I thought flashing was completely irreversible. I guess if I wanted
>> to
>> play DRM files, I get a cheap player for that purpose only. I heard, all
>> be
>> it more expensive, that the Iaudio X5 also would do DRM files, but not
>> sure
>> it suffers the same affliction when Rockbox is flashed.
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Keith Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 7:01 AM
>> Subject: Re: Is there such a thing as a blind
>> friendlyplayerthatplaysbothRAXand Wma/drm files?
>>
>>
>>> Once you flash rockbox, Your DRM capability is pernimantly gone.  You 
>>> can
>>> blaime this on DRM as it was written to be virtually tamper proof.
>>>
>>> Bad Microsoft eh?
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Brent Harding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 8:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Is there such a thing as a blind friendly
>>> playerthatplaysbothRAXand Wma/drm files?
>>>
>>>
>>> Does putting the DRM-capable firmware back get the capability back? Or
>>> does
>>> the Rockbox site really mean permanent when they say that flashing their
>>> software to a 3x series Iriver destroys DRM capability in the sense that
>>> reverting back won't restore that ability.
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Jeff Samco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 9:26 PM
>>> Subject: RE: Is there such a thing as a blind friendly player
>>> thatplaysbothRAXand Wma/drm files?
>>>
>>>
 Rick,

 I do not use any DRM files so won't be able to comment on this.
 However, when I next off-load some files I will locate a very large
 MP3 file and see how it works with the resume feature. How large of
 an MP3 file do you recommend using for this test?
 Other than the resume feature, there is no bookmarking feature I am
 aware of. By the way, I immediately replaced the original firmware
 which required Windows Media Player transfer protocol, with iRiver's
 USB mass storage capable firmware. That removes any capability of
 loading DRM files. I'll post on the above in a few days.

 Jeff


 At 02:38 PM 10/21/2006, you wrote:
>Jeff,
>
>How does this player handle large DRM files in terms of bookmarking, 
>and
>bookmarking in general on other file types?  Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>--Warmest regards,
>
>--Rick Alfaro
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>On Behalf Of Jeff Samco
>Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 12:58 AM
>To: PC audio discussion list.
>Subject: RE: Is there such a thing as a blind friendly player thatplays
>bothRAXand Wma/drm files?
>
>Well, not sure what you want a player to do besides the basics. I have
>previously used an iRiver flash player, ifp 795, and just 2 days ago 
>got
>the
>newer version, T30 512 MB flash player. Both have predictable menus
>which,
>if you are good at memorizing the features you want, you can use it
>pretty
>effectively. I got one of my kids to change the settings I prefer to
>always
>stay the same. But, the feature I most enjoy is the playback speed
>adjustment. It goes from 0% to 50 percent in 10 percent incriments. It
>is
>easy to memorize the sequence of buttons. The features I like changed
>are:
>Fast forward and rewind speed increased from 1x to 6x.
>Study mode turned on: this changes the forward and rewind buttons so
>that
>tapping it will not chan