RE: Apple TV 4th Gen
Ah okay. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Brian Olesen Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:25 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: SV: Apple TV 4th Gen Hi, Wow no. It's only the plug that looks a little bit alike. Brian -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] På vegne af Hamit Campos Sendt: 17. februar 2016 14:19 Til: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Emne: RE: Apple TV 4th Gen This thing with the voice cutting out is disturbing and strange. I've seen it with my Bose SoundLink blu-tooth speaker when I use it with a PC. Also strangely it now does it with the IPhone too. I don't understand what's going on over there with you all because and someone can correct me if thiss ain't so, but HDMI is kinda like USB ain't it? -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of John Gurd Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 3:44 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Apple TV 4th Gen Hi Mary Ah well, you've got me there. I should have been more specific. I didn't use the remote to enter any passwords, etc. Most of the set up was done using that handy Bluetooth transfer thing you can do with your iPhone and my wife put in the remaining password. I was only referring to navigation with the remote. I have my Apple TV connected to an Arcam AVR750 reciever via an HDMI so you could be right and it is affecting Voice Over for some reason. I haven't tried disconnecting the TV from the receiver, but interestingly, anytime I turn on the Apple TV my Sony Bravia TV automatically comes on as well. I'll try turning off the Sony to see if it turns off the Apple TV. Regards John -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: 16 February 2016 20:51 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen Hi John, Your observation about the remote being easy to use is interesting. I think you are the first one who hasn't encountered a significant learning curve, especially when it comes to actually having to type something in, such as a mixed case alphanumeric password. I'm holding out for bluetooth keyboard access, which is supposedly coming with the next major release of tv os, if I can believe what I read in the mainstream Apple-oriented press. That deal where voice over cuts out has happened to me with a 2nd generation apple tv. It happened a lot and only quit happening when we experimented and connected the apple tv directly to the hdmi in on our tv, rather than going through an a/v surround receiver or even a sound bar. When connected directly to the tv, the voiceover cut out problem completely disappeared. Unfortunately, that also meant the rest of the sound from the apple tv went to the tv speakers, which are God awful. Just food for thought. And I have heard others report varying results with the voiceover cut out problem. Some have it. Others don't. And I haven't a clue why. I do have a question. Can you connect the apple tv 4th generation and use all of its features without actually having a tv in the mix? As an example, with my 2nd generation product, it was not possible to watch netflix unless the tv was actually turned on. Netflix would not play. There may have been others too, but Netflix is the one I specifically remember. So even though I didn't need the picture, the tv had to be physically on, not just the surround receiver and speakers. Mary
RE: Apple TV 4th Gen
This thing with the voice cutting out is disturbing and strange. I've seen it with my Bose SoundLink blu-tooth speaker when I use it with a PC. Also strangely it now does it with the IPhone too. I don't understand what's going on over there with you all because and someone can correct me if thiss ain't so, but HDMI is kinda like USB ain't it? -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of John Gurd Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 3:44 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Apple TV 4th Gen Hi Mary Ah well, you've got me there. I should have been more specific. I didn't use the remote to enter any passwords, etc. Most of the set up was done using that handy Bluetooth transfer thing you can do with your iPhone and my wife put in the remaining password. I was only referring to navigation with the remote. I have my Apple TV connected to an Arcam AVR750 reciever via an HDMI so you could be right and it is affecting Voice Over for some reason. I haven't tried disconnecting the TV from the receiver, but interestingly, anytime I turn on the Apple TV my Sony Bravia TV automatically comes on as well. I'll try turning off the Sony to see if it turns off the Apple TV. Regards John -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: 16 February 2016 20:51 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen Hi John, Your observation about the remote being easy to use is interesting. I think you are the first one who hasn't encountered a significant learning curve, especially when it comes to actually having to type something in, such as a mixed case alphanumeric password. I'm holding out for bluetooth keyboard access, which is supposedly coming with the next major release of tv os, if I can believe what I read in the mainstream Apple-oriented press. That deal where voice over cuts out has happened to me with a 2nd generation apple tv. It happened a lot and only quit happening when we experimented and connected the apple tv directly to the hdmi in on our tv, rather than going through an a/v surround receiver or even a sound bar. When connected directly to the tv, the voiceover cut out problem completely disappeared. Unfortunately, that also meant the rest of the sound from the apple tv went to the tv speakers, which are God awful. Just food for thought. And I have heard others report varying results with the voiceover cut out problem. Some have it. Others don't. And I haven't a clue why. I do have a question. Can you connect the apple tv 4th generation and use all of its features without actually having a tv in the mix? As an example, with my 2nd generation product, it was not possible to watch netflix unless the tv was actually turned on. Netflix would not play. There may have been others too, but Netflix is the one I specifically remember. So even though I didn't need the picture, the tv had to be physically on, not just the surround receiver and speakers. Mary
RE: Apple TV 4th Gen
Hi Mary Ah well, you've got me there. I should have been more specific. I didn't use the remote to enter any passwords, etc. Most of the set up was done using that handy Bluetooth transfer thing you can do with your iPhone and my wife put in the remaining password. I was only referring to navigation with the remote. I have my Apple TV connected to an Arcam AVR750 reciever via an HDMI so you could be right and it is affecting Voice Over for some reason. I haven't tried disconnecting the TV from the receiver, but interestingly, anytime I turn on the Apple TV my Sony Bravia TV automatically comes on as well. I'll try turning off the Sony to see if it turns off the Apple TV. Regards John -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: 16 February 2016 20:51 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen Hi John, Your observation about the remote being easy to use is interesting. I think you are the first one who hasn't encountered a significant learning curve, especially when it comes to actually having to type something in, such as a mixed case alphanumeric password. I'm holding out for bluetooth keyboard access, which is supposedly coming with the next major release of tv os, if I can believe what I read in the mainstream Apple-oriented press. That deal where voice over cuts out has happened to me with a 2nd generation apple tv. It happened a lot and only quit happening when we experimented and connected the apple tv directly to the hdmi in on our tv, rather than going through an a/v surround receiver or even a sound bar. When connected directly to the tv, the voiceover cut out problem completely disappeared. Unfortunately, that also meant the rest of the sound from the apple tv went to the tv speakers, which are God awful. Just food for thought. And I have heard others report varying results with the voiceover cut out problem. Some have it. Others don't. And I haven't a clue why. I do have a question. Can you connect the apple tv 4th generation and use all of its features without actually having a tv in the mix? As an example, with my 2nd generation product, it was not possible to watch netflix unless the tv was actually turned on. Netflix would not play. There may have been others too, but Netflix is the one I specifically remember. So even though I didn't need the picture, the tv had to be physically on, not just the surround receiver and speakers. Mary
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BT Keyboard support has nothing whatever to do with BT Speakers . You can of course connect an AirPlay device to the Apple TV right out of the box, you don’t even need to have the Apple TV connected to an existing Home Network. > On 17 Feb 2016, at 9:13 AM, Stephanie Mitchell > wrote: > > I also got appletv last week. I'm debating if I get netflix, foxtell, or > some other service. I'd like to connect a bt speaker to the tv and cant wait > for bt keyboard support. > Steph > > - Original Message - > From: Robert Williams > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:52 am > Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen > >> >> >> >> I have the both the 3rd and the 4th generation apple tvs and you do not >> need to have the tv on. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Feb 16, 2016, at 2:50 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> >>> Hi John, >>> >>> Your observation about the remote being easy to use is interesting. I >>> think you are the first one who hasn't encountered a significant >>> learning curve, especially when it comes to actually having to type >>> something in, such as a mixed case alphanumeric password. I'm holding >>> out for bluetooth keyboard access, which is supposedly coming with the >>> next major release of tv os, if I can believe what I read in the >>> mainstream Apple-oriented press. >>> >>> That deal where voice over cuts out has happened to me with a 2nd >>> generation apple tv. It happened a lot and only quit happening when we >>> experimented and connected the apple tv directly to the hdmi in on our >>> tv, rather than going through an a/v surround receiver or even a sound >>> bar. When connected directly to the tv, the voiceover cut out problem >>> completely disappeared. Unfortunately, that also meant the rest of the >>> sound from the apple tv went to the tv speakers, which are God awful. >>> Just food for thought. And I have heard others report varying results >>> with the voiceover cut out problem. Some have it. Others don't. And I >>> haven't a clue why. >>> >>> I do have a question. Can you connect the apple tv 4th generation and >>> use all of its features without actually having a tv in the mix? As an >>> example, with my 2nd generation product, it was not possible to watch >>> netflix unless the tv was actually turned on. Netflix would not play. >>> There may have been others too, but Netflix is the one I specifically >>> remember. So even though I didn't need the picture, the tv had to be >>> physically on, not just the surround receiver and speakers. >>> >>> Mary >>> >>> >> > > Mitchell Piano Studio > Phone: 0450354342 > Web: www.mitchellpianostudio.com > ** Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the halfwits in this world behind.
RE: Apple TV 4th Gen
That's right. If the TV has ARC audio return channel you can have the audio go from the tv strangelyto the HDMI out of the AV that is sending the vid to the TV. Odd right? But it works. Yeah HDCP this ticks off Leo Laporte and he always ends any discussion of this kind of thing by saying thanks a lot Holly Wood. He says they're paranoid. Same opinion applys for Microsoft. -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 6:16 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Apple TV 4th Gen Hi Mary. Funny you should mention the speech dropout issue as I recently ran into this myself but not with the Apple TV. It was with a mini pc that I had connected to an HDMI port on my receiver. It was really annoying and totally ruined the whole experience of using the PC. Like you, the problem was solved when I connected the PC to one of the HDMI ports on the TV. In my case however, sound continued to be routed to my home theater system because the TV was connected to the receiver via HDMI as well. Regarding what you experienced with Netflix not playing when your TV wasn't plugged in, unfortunately, that's the way it is due to the HDCP (hd copy protection) present on any of these media streamers which is required by any of the services that offer movies and copy protected music. Best regards, Rick Alfaro -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 3:51 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen Hi John, Your observation about the remote being easy to use is interesting. I think you are the first one who hasn't encountered a significant learning curve, especially when it comes to actually having to type something in, such as a mixed case alphanumeric password. I'm holding out for bluetooth keyboard access, which is supposedly coming with the next major release of tv os, if I can believe what I read in the mainstream Apple-oriented press. That deal where voice over cuts out has happened to me with a 2nd generation apple tv. It happened a lot and only quit happening when we experimented and connected the apple tv directly to the hdmi in on our tv, rather than going through an a/v surround receiver or even a sound bar. When connected directly to the tv, the voiceover cut out problem completely disappeared. Unfortunately, that also meant the rest of the sound from the apple tv went to the tv speakers, which are God awful. Just food for thought. And I have heard others report varying results with the voiceover cut out problem. Some have it. Others don't. And I haven't a clue why. I do have a question. Can you connect the apple tv 4th generation and use all of its features without actually having a tv in the mix? As an example, with my 2nd generation product, it was not possible to watch netflix unless the tv was actually turned on. Netflix would not play. There may have been others too, but Netflix is the one I specifically remember. So even though I didn't need the picture, the tv had to be physically on, not just the surround receiver and speakers. Mary
RE: Apple TV 4th Gen
Hi Mary. Funny you should mention the speech dropout issue as I recently ran into this myself but not with the Apple TV. It was with a mini pc that I had connected to an HDMI port on my receiver. It was really annoying and totally ruined the whole experience of using the PC. Like you, the problem was solved when I connected the PC to one of the HDMI ports on the TV. In my case however, sound continued to be routed to my home theater system because the TV was connected to the receiver via HDMI as well. Regarding what you experienced with Netflix not playing when your TV wasn't plugged in, unfortunately, that's the way it is due to the HDCP (hd copy protection) present on any of these media streamers which is required by any of the services that offer movies and copy protected music. Best regards, Rick Alfaro -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 3:51 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen Hi John, Your observation about the remote being easy to use is interesting. I think you are the first one who hasn't encountered a significant learning curve, especially when it comes to actually having to type something in, such as a mixed case alphanumeric password. I'm holding out for bluetooth keyboard access, which is supposedly coming with the next major release of tv os, if I can believe what I read in the mainstream Apple-oriented press. That deal where voice over cuts out has happened to me with a 2nd generation apple tv. It happened a lot and only quit happening when we experimented and connected the apple tv directly to the hdmi in on our tv, rather than going through an a/v surround receiver or even a sound bar. When connected directly to the tv, the voiceover cut out problem completely disappeared. Unfortunately, that also meant the rest of the sound from the apple tv went to the tv speakers, which are God awful. Just food for thought. And I have heard others report varying results with the voiceover cut out problem. Some have it. Others don't. And I haven't a clue why. I do have a question. Can you connect the apple tv 4th generation and use all of its features without actually having a tv in the mix? As an example, with my 2nd generation product, it was not possible to watch netflix unless the tv was actually turned on. Netflix would not play. There may have been others too, but Netflix is the one I specifically remember. So even though I didn't need the picture, the tv had to be physically on, not just the surround receiver and speakers. Mary
Re: Apple TV 4th Gen
I also got appletv last week. I'm debating if I get netflix, foxtell, or some other service. I'd like to connect a bt speaker to the tv and cant wait for bt keyboard support. Steph - Original Message - From: Robert Williams To: PC Audio Discussion List Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:52 am Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen > > > > I have the both the 3rd and the 4th generation apple tvs and you do not need > to have the tv on. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 16, 2016, at 2:50 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > > > Hi John, > > > > Your observation about the remote being easy to use is interesting. I > > think you are the first one who hasn't encountered a significant > > learning curve, especially when it comes to actually having to type > > something in, such as a mixed case alphanumeric password. I'm holding > > out for bluetooth keyboard access, which is supposedly coming with the > > next major release of tv os, if I can believe what I read in the > > mainstream Apple-oriented press. > > > > That deal where voice over cuts out has happened to me with a 2nd > > generation apple tv. It happened a lot and only quit happening when we > > experimented and connected the apple tv directly to the hdmi in on our > > tv, rather than going through an a/v surround receiver or even a sound > > bar. When connected directly to the tv, the voiceover cut out problem > > completely disappeared. Unfortunately, that also meant the rest of the > > sound from the apple tv went to the tv speakers, which are God awful. > > Just food for thought. And I have heard others report varying results > > with the voiceover cut out problem. Some have it. Others don't. And I > > haven't a clue why. > > > > I do have a question. Can you connect the apple tv 4th generation and > > use all of its features without actually having a tv in the mix? As an > > example, with my 2nd generation product, it was not possible to watch > > netflix unless the tv was actually turned on. Netflix would not play. > > There may have been others too, but Netflix is the one I specifically > > remember. So even though I didn't need the picture, the tv had to be > > physically on, not just the surround receiver and speakers. > > > > Mary > > > > > Mitchell Piano Studio Phone: 0450354342 Web: www.mitchellpianostudio.com
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I have the both the 3rd and the 4th generation apple tvs and you do not need to have the tv on. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 16, 2016, at 2:50 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > > Hi John, > > Your observation about the remote being easy to use is interesting. I > think you are the first one who hasn't encountered a significant > learning curve, especially when it comes to actually having to type > something in, such as a mixed case alphanumeric password. I'm holding > out for bluetooth keyboard access, which is supposedly coming with the > next major release of tv os, if I can believe what I read in the > mainstream Apple-oriented press. > > That deal where voice over cuts out has happened to me with a 2nd > generation apple tv. It happened a lot and only quit happening when we > experimented and connected the apple tv directly to the hdmi in on our > tv, rather than going through an a/v surround receiver or even a sound > bar. When connected directly to the tv, the voiceover cut out problem > completely disappeared. Unfortunately, that also meant the rest of the > sound from the apple tv went to the tv speakers, which are God awful. > Just food for thought. And I have heard others report varying results > with the voiceover cut out problem. Some have it. Others don't. And I > haven't a clue why. > > I do have a question. Can you connect the apple tv 4th generation and > use all of its features without actually having a tv in the mix? As an > example, with my 2nd generation product, it was not possible to watch > netflix unless the tv was actually turned on. Netflix would not play. > There may have been others too, but Netflix is the one I specifically > remember. So even though I didn't need the picture, the tv had to be > physically on, not just the surround receiver and speakers. > > Mary > >
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mary, with the new apple tv you can use the hdmi and if connected to a surround sound receiver you do not need to have your tv on. you can just listen to the audio through the receiver. also the problem with voice over cutting out. the software could be corrupted and might need a fresh install of software. a full factory reset can sometimes fix those problems. i have the apple tv 3rd gen and also 4th gen and never any problems with voiceover cutting out. - Original Message - From: "Mary Otten" To: "PC Audio Discussion List" Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 3:50 PM Subject: Re: Apple TV 4th Gen Hi John, Your observation about the remote being easy to use is interesting. I think you are the first one who hasn't encountered a significant learning curve, especially when it comes to actually having to type something in, such as a mixed case alphanumeric password. I'm holding out for bluetooth keyboard access, which is supposedly coming with the next major release of tv os, if I can believe what I read in the mainstream Apple-oriented press. That deal where voice over cuts out has happened to me with a 2nd generation apple tv. It happened a lot and only quit happening when we experimented and connected the apple tv directly to the hdmi in on our tv, rather than going through an a/v surround receiver or even a sound bar. When connected directly to the tv, the voiceover cut out problem completely disappeared. Unfortunately, that also meant the rest of the sound from the apple tv went to the tv speakers, which are God awful. Just food for thought. And I have heard others report varying results with the voiceover cut out problem. Some have it. Others don't. And I haven't a clue why. I do have a question. Can you connect the apple tv 4th generation and use all of its features without actually having a tv in the mix? As an example, with my 2nd generation product, it was not possible to watch netflix unless the tv was actually turned on. Netflix would not play. There may have been others too, but Netflix is the one I specifically remember. So even though I didn't need the picture, the tv had to be physically on, not just the surround receiver and speakers. Mary
Re: Apple TV 4th Gen
Hi John, Your observation about the remote being easy to use is interesting. I think you are the first one who hasn't encountered a significant learning curve, especially when it comes to actually having to type something in, such as a mixed case alphanumeric password. I'm holding out for bluetooth keyboard access, which is supposedly coming with the next major release of tv os, if I can believe what I read in the mainstream Apple-oriented press. That deal where voice over cuts out has happened to me with a 2nd generation apple tv. It happened a lot and only quit happening when we experimented and connected the apple tv directly to the hdmi in on our tv, rather than going through an a/v surround receiver or even a sound bar. When connected directly to the tv, the voiceover cut out problem completely disappeared. Unfortunately, that also meant the rest of the sound from the apple tv went to the tv speakers, which are God awful. Just food for thought. And I have heard others report varying results with the voiceover cut out problem. Some have it. Others don't. And I haven't a clue why. I do have a question. Can you connect the apple tv 4th generation and use all of its features without actually having a tv in the mix? As an example, with my 2nd generation product, it was not possible to watch netflix unless the tv was actually turned on. Netflix would not play. There may have been others too, but Netflix is the one I specifically remember. So even though I didn't need the picture, the tv had to be physically on, not just the surround receiver and speakers. Mary
