RE: Electro Static Headphones

[John Gurd]

I think I had the same Stax Electrostatics as Mary. I hope it's not the same
these days, but back then the big disadvantage was that over time the moving
plates acquired a charge and would need replaced as they became less
effective. It was expensive so I had to sell them after only about 6 months
or so.

John


-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: 28 September 2015 15:58
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Electro Static Headphones

A long time ago, like probably 30 years, I had a pair of Stax
electrostatics. They were pricy; I don't remember how much, but certainly
nowhere near a thousand. Then again, that was 30 years ago.
Yes, they did require a special amp. They even had a special connector that
plugged into the amp that came with the phones. And these phones were just
wonderful, except for those who want major bass. For folk and classical,
they were amazing! And they were light and quite comfortable, but of course,
they wouldn't have worked on a pc or a portable device, due to the special
connections and power requirements.
I didn't even know they made electrostatics any more.

Mary

RE: Electro Static Headphones

[Hamit Campos]

Ah so it's the speaker/headphone version of a Condencer mike esentually
then. That's right, I forgot all about these. Now you say this I remember
them being brought up on Home Theater Geeks once. But for some reason, never
again. So I forgot all about them. I knew they sounded epic. I mean when it
comes to mikes I prefer condencer thank you very much. Lol. So I might like
these. Epic dude. thanks

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Walter
Ramage
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 12:08 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: RE: Electro Static Headphones

Hi.  I'm no electronic engineer so the best way I can describe Electrostatic
speakers (or headphones ) is to compare them with regular speakers we are
all familiar with.  Your regular speakers use an electro magnet to cause the
Speaker cone to vibrate causing the cone to move the air in front of it
giving you sound.  Generally speaking, the larger the speaker cone the
greater the bass response.  If you touch a speaker while playing you will
feel the vibrations.  Electrostatic speakers however don't use a magnet but
an electric current to vibrate a panel and this vibration moves the air in
front of it and gives you the sound.  These speakers are very accurate
reproducers of sound but since the vibrating panel doesn't move very much
the bass response is very poor and has to be augmented by the use of a
subwoofer.  I don't know if you have heard of a guy called Rolf Harriss?  he
used a wobble board in his music; the flexing of that board produced
rhythmic sounds and that is the principle upon which electrostatic speakers
and headphones work.  Walter.

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: 28 September 2015 16:44
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Electro Static Headphones

But what's that mean? What do they do differently from regular headphones?

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 10:58 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Electro Static Headphones

A long time ago, like probably 30 years, I had a pair of Stax
electrostatics. They were pricy; I don't remember how much, but certainly
nowhere near a thousand. Then again, that was 30 years ago.
Yes, they did require a special amp. They even had a special connector that
plugged into the amp that came with the phones. And these phones were just
wonderful, except for those who want major bass. For folk and classical,
they were amazing! And they were light and quite comfortable, but of course,
they wouldn't have worked on a pc or a portable device, due to the special
connections and power requirements.
I didn't even know they made electrostatics any more.

Mary





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Re: Electro Static Headphones

[Dane Trethowan]

I have seen Electro Static speakers used, an old valve radio gram I had 
at one stage of the game used a pair ofelectro static speakers for 
tweeters, very nice and crisp highs.




On 9/29/2015 2:08 AM, Walter Ramage wrote:

Hi.  I'm no electronic engineer so the best way I can describe Electrostatic
speakers (or headphones ) is to compare them with regular speakers we are
all familiar with.  Your regular speakers use an electro magnet to cause the
Speaker cone to vibrate causing the cone to move the air in front of it
giving you sound.  Generally speaking, the larger the speaker cone the
greater the bass response.  If you touch a speaker while playing you will
feel the vibrations.  Electrostatic speakers however don't use a magnet but
an electric current to vibrate a panel and this vibration moves the air in
front of it and gives you the sound.  These speakers are very accurate
reproducers of sound but since the vibrating panel doesn't move very much
the bass response is very poor and has to be augmented by the use of a
subwoofer.  I don't know if you have heard of a guy called Rolf Harriss?  he
used a wobble board in his music; the flexing of that board produced
rhythmic sounds and that is the principle upon which electrostatic speakers
and headphones work.  Walter.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: 28 September 2015 16:44
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Electro Static Headphones

But what's that mean? What do they do differently from regular headphones?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 10:58 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Electro Static Headphones

A long time ago, like probably 30 years, I had a pair of Stax
electrostatics. They were pricy; I don't remember how much, but certainly
nowhere near a thousand. Then again, that was 30 years ago.
Yes, they did require a special amp. They even had a special connector that
plugged into the amp that came with the phones. And these phones were just
wonderful, except for those who want major bass. For folk and classical,
they were amazing! And they were light and quite comfortable, but of course,
they wouldn't have worked on a pc or a portable device, due to the special
connections and power requirements.
I didn't even know they made electrostatics any more.

Mary





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RE: Electro Static Headphones

[Hamit Campos]

Epic nice and crisp highs means Godzilla 1998 would sound very clear at the
wistling part of the roar. Also any other crisp stuff. The smak of a whip
for instance. Like in the youtube vid of caning in Malazia.

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 2:48 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Electro Static Headphones

I have seen Electro Static speakers used, an old valve radio gram I had at
one stage of the game used a pair ofelectro static speakers for tweeters,
very nice and crisp highs.



On 9/29/2015 2:08 AM, Walter Ramage wrote:
> Hi.  I'm no electronic engineer so the best way I can describe 
> Electrostatic speakers (or headphones ) is to compare them with 
> regular speakers we are all familiar with.  Your regular speakers use 
> an electro magnet to cause the Speaker cone to vibrate causing the 
> cone to move the air in front of it giving you sound.  Generally 
> speaking, the larger the speaker cone the greater the bass response.  
> If you touch a speaker while playing you will feel the vibrations.  
> Electrostatic speakers however don't use a magnet but an electric 
> current to vibrate a panel and this vibration moves the air in front 
> of it and gives you the sound.  These speakers are very accurate 
> reproducers of sound but since the vibrating panel doesn't move very 
> much the bass response is very poor and has to be augmented by the use 
> of a subwoofer.  I don't know if you have heard of a guy called Rolf 
> Harriss?  he used a wobble board in his music; the flexing of that 
> board produced rhythmic sounds and that is the principle upon which
electrostatic speakers and headphones work.  Walter.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Hamit Campos
> Sent: 28 September 2015 16:44
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Electro Static Headphones
>
> But what's that mean? What do they do differently from regular headphones?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 10:58 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Electro Static Headphones
>
> A long time ago, like probably 30 years, I had a pair of Stax 
> electrostatics. They were pricy; I don't remember how much, but 
> certainly nowhere near a thousand. Then again, that was 30 years ago.
> Yes, they did require a special amp. They even had a special connector 
> that plugged into the amp that came with the phones. And these phones 
> were just wonderful, except for those who want major bass. For folk 
> and classical, they were amazing! And they were light and quite 
> comfortable, but of course, they wouldn't have worked on a pc or a 
> portable device, due to the special connections and power requirements.
> I didn't even know they made electrostatics any more.
>
> Mary
>
>
>
>
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Re: Electro Static Headphones

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Thats epic!
He’s one of the greatest entertainer in the world.
Or was actually.
He lived for a while in Sweden and did lot of childrens program.
/A
> 28 sep. 2015 kl. 19:21 skrev Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com>:
> 
> No sorry. Rolf Harriss is new to me.
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Walter
> Ramage
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 12:08 PM
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: RE: Electro Static Headphones
> 
> Hi.  I'm no electronic engineer so the best way I can describe Electrostatic
> speakers (or headphones ) is to compare them with regular speakers we are
> all familiar with.  Your regular speakers use an electro magnet to cause the
> Speaker cone to vibrate causing the cone to move the air in front of it
> giving you sound.  Generally speaking, the larger the speaker cone the
> greater the bass response.  If you touch a speaker while playing you will
> feel the vibrations.  Electrostatic speakers however don't use a magnet but
> an electric current to vibrate a panel and this vibration moves the air in
> front of it and gives you the sound.  These speakers are very accurate
> reproducers of sound but since the vibrating panel doesn't move very much
> the bass response is very poor and has to be augmented by the use of a
> subwoofer.  I don't know if you have heard of a guy called Rolf Harriss?  he
> used a wobble board in his music; the flexing of that board produced
> rhythmic sounds and that is the principle upon which electrostatic speakers
> and headphones work.  Walter.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit
> Campos
> Sent: 28 September 2015 16:44
> To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: Electro Static Headphones
> 
> But what's that mean? What do they do differently from regular headphones?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
> Otten
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 10:58 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: Electro Static Headphones
> 
> A long time ago, like probably 30 years, I had a pair of Stax
> electrostatics. They were pricy; I don't remember how much, but certainly
> nowhere near a thousand. Then again, that was 30 years ago.
> Yes, they did require a special amp. They even had a special connector that
> plugged into the amp that came with the phones. And these phones were just
> wonderful, except for those who want major bass. For folk and classical,
> they were amazing! And they were light and quite comfortable, but of course,
> they wouldn't have worked on a pc or a portable device, due to the special
> connections and power requirements.
> I didn't even know they made electrostatics any more.
> 
> Mary
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Electro Static Headphones

[Dane Trethowan]

Yep, Stax are still available, my friend has a pair of those and they're 
still custom made in Japan.


Headphone technology has come a very long way in 30 years and I'd 
imagine that with the Stax has also come a long way too, I was given 
detail of how much the Stax actually cost and how they sounded 
but...well... that was a good 3 years ago so time to refresh the old 
memory bank me thinks.


I do know that the Stax stopped working and getting them serviced was a 
bit of a problem, getting the appropriate parts in from Stax themselves.




On 9/29/2015 12:57 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

A long time ago, like probably 30 years, I had a pair of Stax
electrostatics. They were pricy; I don't remember how much, but
certainly nowhere near a thousand. Then again, that was 30 years ago.
Yes, they did require a special amp. They even had a special connector
that plugged into the amp that came with the phones. And these phones
were just wonderful, except for those who want major bass. For folk and
classical, they were amazing! And they were light and quite
comfortable, but of course, they wouldn't have worked on a pc or a
portable device, due to the special connections and power requirements.
I didn't even know they made electrostatics any more.

Mary




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RE: Electro Static Headphones

[Walter Ramage]

OK, no matter, he's in jail for pedafilia anyway.  If you take a large, very
large piece of thick card, or even a large oblong of very thin plywood and
holde it at each end and begin to  bounce it, the middle portion will begin
to flex and you will hear the sound it makes.  Walter.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: 28 September 2015 18:22
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Electro Static Headphones

No sorry. Rolf Harriss is new to me.
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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Walter
Ramage
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 12:08 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: RE: Electro Static Headphones

Hi.  I'm no electronic engineer so the best way I can describe Electrostatic
speakers (or headphones ) is to compare them with regular speakers we are
all familiar with.  Your regular speakers use an electro magnet to cause the
Speaker cone to vibrate causing the cone to move the air in front of it
giving you sound.  Generally speaking, the larger the speaker cone the
greater the bass response.  If you touch a speaker while playing you will
feel the vibrations.  Electrostatic speakers however don't use a magnet but
an electric current to vibrate a panel and this vibration moves the air in
front of it and gives you the sound.  These speakers are very accurate
reproducers of sound but since the vibrating panel doesn't move very much
the bass response is very poor and has to be augmented by the use of a
subwoofer.  I don't know if you have heard of a guy called Rolf Harriss?  he
used a wobble board in his music; the flexing of that board produced
rhythmic sounds and that is the principle upon which electrostatic speakers
and headphones work.  Walter.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: 28 September 2015 16:44
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Electro Static Headphones

But what's that mean? What do they do differently from regular headphones?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 10:58 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Electro Static Headphones

A long time ago, like probably 30 years, I had a pair of Stax
electrostatics. They were pricy; I don't remember how much, but certainly
nowhere near a thousand. Then again, that was 30 years ago.
Yes, they did require a special amp. They even had a special connector that
plugged into the amp that came with the phones. And these phones were just
wonderful, except for those who want major bass. For folk and classical,
they were amazing! And they were light and quite comfortable, but of course,
they wouldn't have worked on a pc or a portable device, due to the special
connections and power requirements.
I didn't even know they made electrostatics any more.

Mary





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RE: Electro Static Headphones

[Hamit Campos]

No sorry. Rolf Harriss is new to me.
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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Walter
Ramage
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 12:08 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: RE: Electro Static Headphones

Hi.  I'm no electronic engineer so the best way I can describe Electrostatic
speakers (or headphones ) is to compare them with regular speakers we are
all familiar with.  Your regular speakers use an electro magnet to cause the
Speaker cone to vibrate causing the cone to move the air in front of it
giving you sound.  Generally speaking, the larger the speaker cone the
greater the bass response.  If you touch a speaker while playing you will
feel the vibrations.  Electrostatic speakers however don't use a magnet but
an electric current to vibrate a panel and this vibration moves the air in
front of it and gives you the sound.  These speakers are very accurate
reproducers of sound but since the vibrating panel doesn't move very much
the bass response is very poor and has to be augmented by the use of a
subwoofer.  I don't know if you have heard of a guy called Rolf Harriss?  he
used a wobble board in his music; the flexing of that board produced
rhythmic sounds and that is the principle upon which electrostatic speakers
and headphones work.  Walter.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: 28 September 2015 16:44
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Electro Static Headphones

But what's that mean? What do they do differently from regular headphones?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 10:58 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Electro Static Headphones

A long time ago, like probably 30 years, I had a pair of Stax
electrostatics. They were pricy; I don't remember how much, but certainly
nowhere near a thousand. Then again, that was 30 years ago.
Yes, they did require a special amp. They even had a special connector that
plugged into the amp that came with the phones. And these phones were just
wonderful, except for those who want major bass. For folk and classical,
they were amazing! And they were light and quite comfortable, but of course,
they wouldn't have worked on a pc or a portable device, due to the special
connections and power requirements.
I didn't even know they made electrostatics any more.

Mary





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Re: Electro Static Headphones

[Mary Otten]

A long time ago, like probably 30 years, I had a pair of Stax
electrostatics. They were pricy; I don't remember how much, but
certainly nowhere near a thousand. Then again, that was 30 years ago.
Yes, they did require a special amp. They even had a special connector
that plugged into the amp that came with the phones. And these phones
were just wonderful, except for those who want major bass. For folk and
classical, they were amazing! And they were light and quite
comfortable, but of course, they wouldn't have worked on a pc or a
portable device, due to the special connections and power requirements.
I didn't even know they made electrostatics any more.

Mary

RE: Electro Static Headphones

[Walter Ramage]

Hi.  I'm no electronic engineer so the best way I can describe Electrostatic
speakers (or headphones ) is to compare them with regular speakers we are
all familiar with.  Your regular speakers use an electro magnet to cause the
Speaker cone to vibrate causing the cone to move the air in front of it
giving you sound.  Generally speaking, the larger the speaker cone the
greater the bass response.  If you touch a speaker while playing you will
feel the vibrations.  Electrostatic speakers however don't use a magnet but
an electric current to vibrate a panel and this vibration moves the air in
front of it and gives you the sound.  These speakers are very accurate
reproducers of sound but since the vibrating panel doesn't move very much
the bass response is very poor and has to be augmented by the use of a
subwoofer.  I don't know if you have heard of a guy called Rolf Harriss?  he
used a wobble board in his music; the flexing of that board produced
rhythmic sounds and that is the principle upon which electrostatic speakers
and headphones work.  Walter.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: 28 September 2015 16:44
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Electro Static Headphones

But what's that mean? What do they do differently from regular headphones?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 10:58 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Electro Static Headphones

A long time ago, like probably 30 years, I had a pair of Stax
electrostatics. They were pricy; I don't remember how much, but certainly
nowhere near a thousand. Then again, that was 30 years ago.
Yes, they did require a special amp. They even had a special connector that
plugged into the amp that came with the phones. And these phones were just
wonderful, except for those who want major bass. For folk and classical,
they were amazing! And they were light and quite comfortable, but of course,
they wouldn't have worked on a pc or a portable device, due to the special
connections and power requirements.
I didn't even know they made electrostatics any more.

Mary





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RE: Electro Static Headphones

[Hamit Campos]

But what's that mean? What do they do differently from regular headphones?

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 10:58 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Electro Static Headphones

A long time ago, like probably 30 years, I had a pair of Stax
electrostatics. They were pricy; I don't remember how much, but certainly
nowhere near a thousand. Then again, that was 30 years ago.
Yes, they did require a special amp. They even had a special connector that
plugged into the amp that came with the phones. And these phones were just
wonderful, except for those who want major bass. For folk and classical,
they were amazing! And they were light and quite comfortable, but of course,
they wouldn't have worked on a pc or a portable device, due to the special
connections and power requirements.
I didn't even know they made electrostatics any more.

Mary

RE: Electro Static Headphones

[Hamit Campos]

Ah interesting. So put the wood or what ever against a speaker gril then?

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Walter
Ramage
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 1:43 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: RE: Electro Static Headphones

OK, no matter, he's in jail for pedafilia anyway.  If you take a large, very
large piece of thick card, or even a large oblong of very thin plywood and
holde it at each end and begin to  bounce it, the middle portion will begin
to flex and you will hear the sound it makes.  Walter.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: 28 September 2015 18:22
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Electro Static Headphones

No sorry. Rolf Harriss is new to me.
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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Walter
Ramage
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 12:08 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: RE: Electro Static Headphones

Hi.  I'm no electronic engineer so the best way I can describe Electrostatic
speakers (or headphones ) is to compare them with regular speakers we are
all familiar with.  Your regular speakers use an electro magnet to cause the
Speaker cone to vibrate causing the cone to move the air in front of it
giving you sound.  Generally speaking, the larger the speaker cone the
greater the bass response.  If you touch a speaker while playing you will
feel the vibrations.  Electrostatic speakers however don't use a magnet but
an electric current to vibrate a panel and this vibration moves the air in
front of it and gives you the sound.  These speakers are very accurate
reproducers of sound but since the vibrating panel doesn't move very much
the bass response is very poor and has to be augmented by the use of a
subwoofer.  I don't know if you have heard of a guy called Rolf Harriss?  he
used a wobble board in his music; the flexing of that board produced
rhythmic sounds and that is the principle upon which electrostatic speakers
and headphones work.  Walter.

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit
Campos
Sent: 28 September 2015 16:44
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Electro Static Headphones

But what's that mean? What do they do differently from regular headphones?

-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Mary
Otten
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 10:58 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: Re: Electro Static Headphones

A long time ago, like probably 30 years, I had a pair of Stax
electrostatics. They were pricy; I don't remember how much, but certainly
nowhere near a thousand. Then again, that was 30 years ago.
Yes, they did require a special amp. They even had a special connector that
plugged into the amp that came with the phones. And these phones were just
wonderful, except for those who want major bass. For folk and classical,
they were amazing! And they were light and quite comfortable, but of course,
they wouldn't have worked on a pc or a portable device, due to the special
connections and power requirements.
I didn't even know they made electrostatics any more.

Mary





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RE: Electro Static Headphones

[Hamit Campos]

Electro static? What's that mean? Sounds epic what ever it is.

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From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
Trethowan
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 3:11 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List 
Subject: Electro Static Headphones

The Bowers And Wilkins P7 are not electro static headphones and yep, the 
Electro Static one’s are very expensive - a couple of grand at least - but very 
well worth having though I do know someone who has them and they require a 
special amplifier to drive them.

> On 26 Sep 2015, at 8:20 am, Brent Harding  wrote:
> 
> I thought I heard that the electrostatic ones are extremely expensive. At 
> least these are something we could save for.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Dane Trethowan" 
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 2:49 PM
> Subject: Re: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be 
> LuxuryLooks, Feel, Build And Sound
> 
> 
>> No they'll be around and they're available in all the stores like Best Buy 
>> etc.
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/26/2015 4:42 AM, Anders Holmberg wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>> Could be great for my sports listening then.
>>> Sadly they are a bit to much for my wallet right now but i guess they wont 
>>> go a way for quite a long time.
>>> /A
 25 sep. 2015 kl. 16:46 skrev Dane Trethowan :
 
 This B set even give my Senheiser reference set I've had for 10 years a 
 good run for their money, you can hear the audible difference.
 
 The P7's are the best I've heard particularly in their price range, no 
 emphasis on any particular part of the audio frequency spectrum, if 
 there's music to be played or spoken word to be heard then that's what 
 you're going to enjoy, the absolute detail.
 
 
 
 On 9/25/2015 11:04 PM, Hamit Campos wrote:
> Epic dude! Well I guess you kind of answered my question. I was going to 
> ask about the hi end sounds. Yes here we go again. Lol! Would 1 hear the 
> wistle to Godzilla 98 real crisp and clear? Seriously it's real rare the 
> speaker or headphone that can do it and do it well. This is why it blows 
> my mind that Sony TVs aren't as crisp as Samsung. Like, what the heck? 
> But I digress. Seriously dude. Also real crispness to the high end is 
> usefull for other things. It makes things real sharp and clear. Well for 
> me anyways. I just bring Zilla up always because that's 1 instance where 
> it gets real tricky. Either you do it well or it's meh. It's that 
> particular that wistling sound to it's roar is.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane 
> Trethowan
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 6:45 AM
> To: PC Audio Discussion List 
> Subject: Bowers And Wilkins P7 Headphones, Why Shouldn't There Be Luxury 
> Looks, Feel, Build And Sound
> 
> And that’s exactly what the B P7 offer and a reasonably affordable 
> price particularly if you’re in the u.S. Where I’m told these cans can be 
> yours for under $300.
> The P7’S are built from stainless steel and other metals with a touch of 
> leather plus leather ear cuffs, the cuffs are attached to the frame 
> magnetically and replacements are available should they be needed.
> These cans are designed with portable/travel use in mind given the fold 
> away design and the quilted leather carrying case as part of the system 
> but they do come with a 6.5MM adapter for conventional stereo systems 
> along with 2 cables, one is for use with a mobile handset and the other 
> is the conventional stereo type 3.5MM jack type cable.
> The cable for mobile handsets has an inline control for answering calls, 
> volume up/down, volume up/down and a microphone.
> On hearing the headphones I was shocked, it sounded as though I was 
> listening to a 30 inch sub woofer in a room along with silky high 
> tweeters, it took me a few moments to realise that I was in fact 
> listening to a pair of very nice cans and then it all clicked into place, 
> we’re talking about a B product after all.
> I have only one complaint about these headphones, the cable could be 
> longer however I do appreciate that the phones are designed for portable 
> use and if I want a longer cable then its just a matter of plugging in an 
> extension.
> Speaking of the cable, swapping or replacement of same is easily down by 
> removing the left ear cuff, unplugging one cable, plugging in another and 
> replacing the cuff which snaps back into place.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Electro static headphones.

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
Yes i have a old pair of Sennheisser RS140 i think they're called.
BUt they are wireless fm-headphones so i might be looking at some newer soon.
However i also have a pair of beyer dynamics which are pritty nice.
/A
3 feb 2014 kl. 22:52 skrev Chris H christopher...@gmail.com:

 Hi
 Senheisser headphones are good, I had a pair but unfortunately one of the 
 channels broke, may look into this or Bose in the future, right now I'm happy 
 with these hilips ones I'm wearing now.
 
 
 Regards Chris
 
 On 03/02/2014 20:54, André van Deventer wrote:
 Chris
 
 Interesting - I could still listen to my pair of stereo Sennheiser HD250
 headphones right up until the evening before I had my cochlear implant.  And
 this was without hearing aids.  Of course I had to crank them up something
 terrible but they could take it.  I still have my pair of hd250s and they
 are still in working order.  I doubt whether you would find many headphones
 that could have endured the pounding I gave them.
 
 And I listened to things like choir and organ music on them!
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Chris H
 Sent: 03 February 2014 09:55 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Electro static headphones.
 
 Hi
 cheers, I am fussy with headphones due to my hard of hearing and personal
 preferences. I like my headphones to be on the ear and to be earcups, can't
 remember the technical name something like circumoral but hope you get the
 idea.
 
 
 Regards Chris
 
 On 03/02/2014 19:47, Joe Paton wrote:
 Hi,
 
 They are a powered headphone, using the electro-static principle I
 think patented by Quad audio electronics.
 Made by many other manufacturers, but the sound, of course being
 subjective opinion, is, or was, like nothing I had ever heard before.
 
 Not Budget, but fabulous.
 
 Joe
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 .
 
 

Re: Electro static headphones.

[Chris H]

Hi
what are these electrostatic headphones? Thanks!

Regards Chris

On 03/02/2014 17:34, Anders Holmberg wrote:

Hi!
What electro static headphones are out there now a days?
I once had a couple called Audiotechnica ath8.
They were pritty nice.
/A

Re: Electro static headphones.

[Curtis Delzer]

I had the KOS ESP9, and b4 those the ESP6.

--
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HS.

K 6 V F O
San Bernardino, CA.

curtis1...@verizon.net

skype: curtis1014



On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 18:34:47 +0100
Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:

 Hi!
 What electro static headphones are out there now a days?
 I once had a couple called Audiotechnica ath8.
 They were pritty nice.
 /A

Re: Electro static headphones.

[Joe Paton]

Hi,

They are a powered headphone, using the electro-static principle I think
patented by Quad audio electronics.
Made by many other manufacturers, but the sound, of course being
subjective opinion, is, or was, like nothing I had ever heard before.

Not Budget, but fabulous.

Joe



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Re: Electro static headphones.

[Chris H]

Hi
cheers, I am fussy with headphones due to my hard of hearing and 
personal preferences. I like my headphones to be on the ear and to be 
earcups, can't remember the technical name something like circumoral but 
hope you get the idea.



Regards Chris

On 03/02/2014 19:47, Joe Paton wrote:

Hi,

They are a powered headphone, using the electro-static principle I think
patented by Quad audio electronics.
Made by many other manufacturers, but the sound, of course being
subjective opinion, is, or was, like nothing I had ever heard before.

Not Budget, but fabulous.

Joe

Re: Electro static headphones.

[Kulvinder Singh Bhogal]

Google is your friend.


Kulvinder Singh Bhogal
Twitter: @BhogalKulvinder
SKYPENAME: bobba2006
Tel: +441332 514323
Mob: +447581 483856

From: Chris H
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 7:35 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Electro static headphones.

Hi
what are these electrostatic headphones? Thanks!

Regards Chris

On 03/02/2014 17:34, Anders Holmberg wrote:
 Hi!
 What electro static headphones are out there now a days?
 I once had a couple called Audiotechnica ath8.
 They were pritty nice.
 /A




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RE: Electro static headphones.

[André van Deventer]

Chris

Interesting - I could still listen to my pair of stereo Sennheiser HD250
headphones right up until the evening before I had my cochlear implant.  And
this was without hearing aids.  Of course I had to crank them up something
terrible but they could take it.  I still have my pair of hd250s and they
are still in working order.  I doubt whether you would find many headphones
that could have endured the pounding I gave them.

And I listened to things like choir and organ music on them!



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Chris H
Sent: 03 February 2014 09:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Electro static headphones.

Hi
cheers, I am fussy with headphones due to my hard of hearing and personal
preferences. I like my headphones to be on the ear and to be earcups, can't
remember the technical name something like circumoral but hope you get the
idea.


Regards Chris

On 03/02/2014 19:47, Joe Paton wrote:
 Hi,

 They are a powered headphone, using the electro-static principle I 
 think patented by Quad audio electronics.
 Made by many other manufacturers, but the sound, of course being 
 subjective opinion, is, or was, like nothing I had ever heard before.

 Not Budget, but fabulous.

 Joe

Re: Electro static headphones.

[Dane Trethowan]

Right on the ball smile.


On 4 Feb 2014, at 7:52 am, Kulvinder Singh Bhogal kbhog...@btinternet.com 
wrote:

 Google is your friend.
 
 
 Kulvinder Singh Bhogal
 Twitter: @BhogalKulvinder
 SKYPENAME: bobba2006
 Tel: +441332 514323
 Mob: +447581 483856
 
 From: Chris H
 Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 7:35 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Electro static headphones.
 
 Hi
 what are these electrostatic headphones? Thanks!
 
 Regards Chris
 
 On 03/02/2014 17:34, Anders Holmberg wrote:
 Hi!
 What electro static headphones are out there now a days?
 I once had a couple called Audiotechnica ath8.
 They were pritty nice.
 /A
 
 
 
 
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Re: Electro static headphones.

[Dane Trethowan]

I know people who own electro static headphones, they use a brand called Stax 
which are hand made apparently, the people I know with them can't speak highly 
enough of those cans and recommend over everything else so they must have 
something going for them, I notice Stax are available in Australia at 
http://www.addictedtoaudio.com.au so I really should follow that up though 
I'm told that - given that these cans are made in low numbers - that getting a 
pair may take a few months.


On 4 Feb 2014, at 7:54 am, André van Deventer andred...@webafrica.org.za 
wrote:

 Chris
 
 Interesting - I could still listen to my pair of stereo Sennheiser HD250
 headphones right up until the evening before I had my cochlear implant.  And
 this was without hearing aids.  Of course I had to crank them up something
 terrible but they could take it.  I still have my pair of hd250s and they
 are still in working order.  I doubt whether you would find many headphones
 that could have endured the pounding I gave them.
 
 And I listened to things like choir and organ music on them!
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Chris H
 Sent: 03 February 2014 09:55 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Electro static headphones.
 
 Hi
 cheers, I am fussy with headphones due to my hard of hearing and personal
 preferences. I like my headphones to be on the ear and to be earcups, can't
 remember the technical name something like circumoral but hope you get the
 idea.
 
 
 Regards Chris
 
 On 03/02/2014 19:47, Joe Paton wrote:
 Hi,
 
 They are a powered headphone, using the electro-static principle I 
 think patented by Quad audio electronics.
 Made by many other manufacturers, but the sound, of course being 
 subjective opinion, is, or was, like nothing I had ever heard before.
 
 Not Budget, but fabulous.
 
 Joe
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
Fax +61397437954

Re: Electro static headphones.

[Chris H]

Hi
Senheisser headphones are good, I had a pair but unfortunately one of 
the channels broke, may look into this or Bose in the future, right now 
I'm happy with these hilips ones I'm wearing now.



Regards Chris

On 03/02/2014 20:54, André van Deventer wrote:

Chris

Interesting - I could still listen to my pair of stereo Sennheiser HD250
headphones right up until the evening before I had my cochlear implant.  And
this was without hearing aids.  Of course I had to crank them up something
terrible but they could take it.  I still have my pair of hd250s and they
are still in working order.  I doubt whether you would find many headphones
that could have endured the pounding I gave them.

And I listened to things like choir and organ music on them!



-Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Chris H
Sent: 03 February 2014 09:55 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Electro static headphones.

Hi
cheers, I am fussy with headphones due to my hard of hearing and personal
preferences. I like my headphones to be on the ear and to be earcups, can't
remember the technical name something like circumoral but hope you get the
idea.


Regards Chris

On 03/02/2014 19:47, Joe Paton wrote:

Hi,

They are a powered headphone, using the electro-static principle I
think patented by Quad audio electronics.
Made by many other manufacturers, but the sound, of course being
subjective opinion, is, or was, like nothing I had ever heard before.

Not Budget, but fabulous.

Joe








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Re: Electro static headphones.

[Dane Trethowan]

Some of the best headphones I've used have been the Senheiser hdr32 I think the 
model number is and for performance they were the best buy I've made apart from 
the Grado Labs SR60I which I've referred to in earlier messages.

I still have the Senheiser pair but they need replacement cables and elements 
so I'm debating whether to do that or to buy a completely new pair, parts for 
those things just don't come cheap.

The Sehneiser cans are not electro static.

  
On 4 Feb 2014, at 8:52 am, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi
 Senheisser headphones are good, I had a pair but unfortunately one of the 
 channels broke, may look into this or Bose in the future, right now I'm happy 
 with these hilips ones I'm wearing now.
 
 
 Regards Chris
 
 On 03/02/2014 20:54, André van Deventer wrote:
 Chris
 
 Interesting - I could still listen to my pair of stereo Sennheiser HD250
 headphones right up until the evening before I had my cochlear implant.  And
 this was without hearing aids.  Of course I had to crank them up something
 terrible but they could take it.  I still have my pair of hd250s and they
 are still in working order.  I doubt whether you would find many headphones
 that could have endured the pounding I gave them.
 
 And I listened to things like choir and organ music on them!
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Chris H
 Sent: 03 February 2014 09:55 PM
 To: PC Audio Discussion List
 Subject: Re: Electro static headphones.
 
 Hi
 cheers, I am fussy with headphones due to my hard of hearing and personal
 preferences. I like my headphones to be on the ear and to be earcups, can't
 remember the technical name something like circumoral but hope you get the
 idea.
 
 
 Regards Chris
 
 On 03/02/2014 19:47, Joe Paton wrote:
 Hi,
 
 They are a powered headphone, using the electro-static principle I
 think patented by Quad audio electronics.
 Made by many other manufacturers, but the sound, of course being
 subjective opinion, is, or was, like nothing I had ever heard before.
 
 Not Budget, but fabulous.
 
 Joe
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 .
 
 


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Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
Fax +61397437954

Re: Electro static headphones.

[Joe Paton]

try 'em chris.

verry flat response, but beautiful for music.

Cheers,

Joe


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Re: Electro static headphones.

[Joe Paton]

Mo it isn't.

Best to try audio items like these.

So subjective.  All the data sheets in the world will not count a brass
razoo against a personal demonstration.

They can also be a little heavy on the head, well at least the older
offerings were.  Beautiful build, but again subjectivity is the guiding
principle.

Best,

Joe








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RE: Electro static headphones.

[Reed poynter]

Hello,

My KOS ESP9's are still sitting over there on the shelf.  The jell has gone
out of the pads.  I wonder if I can replace them with something.  Now that
you guys have drawn them to my attention, I should pull'm out and have a
listen.  I wonder if they have any market value.

Reed
 -Original Message-
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Curtis
Delzer
Sent: February-03-14 11:37 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Electro static headphones.

I had the KOS ESP9, and b4 those the ESP6.

--
Curtis Delzer.
HS.

K 6 V F O
San Bernardino, CA.

curtis1...@verizon.net

skype: curtis1014



On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 18:34:47 +0100
Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:

 Hi!
 What electro static headphones are out there now a days?
 I once had a couple called Audiotechnica ath8.
 They were pritty nice.
 /A