Re: SACD'S
Yep, there aren’t too many SACD’S around though they haven’t died out yet which is probably due to the fact that to play a SACD is a cheaper option now than it ever has been, I refer to my notes on the first SACD capable player I bought. > On 30 Mar 2015, at 3:27 am, John Gurd wrote: > > Hi Dane, > > I didn't realise SAD's could do multi-channel recordings. I have a few BluRay > audio recordings which sound great but only one is multi-channal. While they > sound great you still have to use a menu system to access them just as if > they were BluRay video. I wish there were more multi-channel recordings > around but there seem to be very few even for contempory output. > > I am thinking of upgrading my ancient BluRay Sony player as it is clunky and > slow. Which Dennon player did you get? > > John > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: 27 March 2015 00:05 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: SACD'S > > Hi! > > Been a good while since I've sat down and had a listen to my small collection > of Super Audio CD'S, I had an old Pioneer DVD Player which handled them > however that player is not compatible with any of the newer equipment I own > so SACD'S had to wait until I could afford to buy a compatible player. > > The compatible player arrived in the form of a Denon Blu-Ray player about 3 > weeks ago ,time to take some time out from the grind, put my feet up and > listen again. > > There's no doubt about it in my view, the upgraded player for SACD'S was > certainly worth the while given that each channel of the audio is now > digitally delivered to the Denon Surround-Sound receiver, each channel being > delivered via its own speaker rather than having to rely on processing to do > the same job, the old Pioneer player would also deliver the channels to each > speaker but in an Analogue mode and you can certainly pick the difference. > > The Pioneer player connected to a multi channel amp or Surround-Sound > receiver by the use of multiple VCA connecting cords, one lead for each > channel and the connection couldn't be done digitally even though the Pioneer > had a Digital out connection - two in fact - they would allow the streaming > of standard Audio or Surround-Sound audio and not from SACD. > > The Denon player on the other hand is completely digital for everything, one > HDMI connection handles up to 8 channels of audio, HD 4K video - if available > - and all the other controlling stuff that HDMI is capable of, certainly > makes life one hell of a lot easier connecting HDMI devices rather than doing > things the traditional way with RCA and other cords. > > I guess you're all wondering, what's the use of me getting SACD'S if I can > only play them on a compatible player? That's true if you want to enjoy the > multi channel benefits of SACD however a SACD will play in standard stereo > mode quite happily in a standard CD Player. > > Time to get back to my Jeff Waynes Super Audio CD Version of War Of The > worlds, the classic double album from 1978. > > > -- > > ** > Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves > > >
Re: SACD'S
You don’t need to access any menu system, just put the SACD into your player and press the play button, a lot of Blu-Ray players will play SACD’S without a problem, the sony player I mentioned in a SACD player though I should warn you that at $99 I don’t know how good it would be, I am thinking of buying something cheap for the den to do the job where quality isn’t an issue with that sort of thing as I already have quality components, I have the DAC and so on. > On 30 Mar 2015, at 3:27 am, John Gurd wrote: > > Hi Dane, > > I didn't realise SAD's could do multi-channel recordings. I have a few BluRay > audio recordings which sound great but only one is multi-channal. While they > sound great you still have to use a menu system to access them just as if > they were BluRay video. I wish there were more multi-channel recordings > around but there seem to be very few even for contempory output. > > I am thinking of upgrading my ancient BluRay Sony player as it is clunky and > slow. Which Dennon player did you get? > > John > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: 27 March 2015 00:05 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: SACD'S > > Hi! > > Been a good while since I've sat down and had a listen to my small collection > of Super Audio CD'S, I had an old Pioneer DVD Player which handled them > however that player is not compatible with any of the newer equipment I own > so SACD'S had to wait until I could afford to buy a compatible player. > > The compatible player arrived in the form of a Denon Blu-Ray player about 3 > weeks ago ,time to take some time out from the grind, put my feet up and > listen again. > > There's no doubt about it in my view, the upgraded player for SACD'S was > certainly worth the while given that each channel of the audio is now > digitally delivered to the Denon Surround-Sound receiver, each channel being > delivered via its own speaker rather than having to rely on processing to do > the same job, the old Pioneer player would also deliver the channels to each > speaker but in an Analogue mode and you can certainly pick the difference. > > The Pioneer player connected to a multi channel amp or Surround-Sound > receiver by the use of multiple VCA connecting cords, one lead for each > channel and the connection couldn't be done digitally even though the Pioneer > had a Digital out connection - two in fact - they would allow the streaming > of standard Audio or Surround-Sound audio and not from SACD. > > The Denon player on the other hand is completely digital for everything, one > HDMI connection handles up to 8 channels of audio, HD 4K video - if available > - and all the other controlling stuff that HDMI is capable of, certainly > makes life one hell of a lot easier connecting HDMI devices rather than doing > things the traditional way with RCA and other cords. > > I guess you're all wondering, what's the use of me getting SACD'S if I can > only play them on a compatible player? That's true if you want to enjoy the > multi channel benefits of SACD however a SACD will play in standard stereo > mode quite happily in a standard CD Player. > > Time to get back to my Jeff Waynes Super Audio CD Version of War Of The > worlds, the classic double album from 1978. > > > -- > > ** > Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves > > >
Re: SACD'S
Well again you don’t need to pay a lot of money to enjoy SACD’S these days, I was looking at my local electronics store and found a Sony SACD machine for $99. SACD is an extension of qua for want of a better description and is not to be confused with surround-sound as it doesn’t rely on DSP - Digital Signal Processing - in other words SACD uses multiple channels with sounds recorded in those channels, if you have a Surround-Sound system already then its possible that it can already play SACD. > On 30 Mar 2015, at 6:32 am, Brett Boyer wrote: > > Hey. I recall reading a review that said the Eagles Hell Freezes Over has a > SACD version. And, in this concert mix you are placed center stage instead of > being in the audience. For example, drums behind you, and the band all around > you! Whereas most concerts place you in the audience with the band mostly in > the front speakers and sometimes a little enhancement in the rear speakers. I > thought about buying some expensive equipment just to hear if all of that is > true. Because it sounded amazing! But not enough to go and buy several > hundred dollars of equipment. > bb > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of John Gurd > Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 9:27 AM > To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' > Subject: RE: SACD'S > > Hi Dane, > > I didn't realise SAD's could do multi-channel recordings. I have a few BluRay > audio recordings which sound great but only one is multi-channal. While they > sound great you still have to use a menu system to access them just as if > they were BluRay video. I wish there were more multi-channel recordings > around but there seem to be very few even for contempory output. > > I am thinking of upgrading my ancient BluRay Sony player as it is clunky and > slow. Which Dennon player did you get? > > John > > > -Original Message- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane > Trethowan > Sent: 27 March 2015 00:05 > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: SACD'S > > Hi! > > Been a good while since I've sat down and had a listen to my small collection > of Super Audio CD'S, I had an old Pioneer DVD Player which handled them > however that player is not compatible with any of the newer equipment I own > so SACD'S had to wait until I could afford to buy a compatible player. > > The compatible player arrived in the form of a Denon Blu-Ray player about 3 > weeks ago ,time to take some time out from the grind, put my feet up and > listen again. > > There's no doubt about it in my view, the upgraded player for SACD'S was > certainly worth the while given that each channel of the audio is now > digitally delivered to the Denon Surround-Sound receiver, each channel being > delivered via its own speaker rather than having to rely on processing to do > the same job, the old Pioneer player would also deliver the channels to each > speaker but in an Analogue mode and you can certainly pick the difference. > > The Pioneer player connected to a multi channel amp or Surround-Sound > receiver by the use of multiple VCA connecting cords, one lead for each > channel and the connection couldn't be done digitally even though the Pioneer > had a Digital out connection - two in fact - they would allow the streaming > of standard Audio or Surround-Sound audio and not from SACD. > > The Denon player on the other hand is completely digital for everything, one > HDMI connection handles up to 8 channels of audio, HD 4K video - if available > - and all the other controlling stuff that HDMI is capable of, certainly > makes life one hell of a lot easier connecting HDMI devices rather than doing > things the traditional way with RCA and other cords. > > I guess you're all wondering, what's the use of me getting SACD'S if I can > only play them on a compatible player? That's true if you want to enjoy the > multi channel benefits of SACD however a SACD will play in standard stereo > mode quite happily in a standard CD Player. > > Time to get back to my Jeff Waynes Super Audio CD Version of War Of The > worlds, the classic double album from 1978. > > > -- > > ** > Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves > > > > >
RE: SACD'S
Hey. I recall reading a review that said the Eagles Hell Freezes Over has a SACD version. And, in this concert mix you are placed center stage instead of being in the audience. For example, drums behind you, and the band all around you! Whereas most concerts place you in the audience with the band mostly in the front speakers and sometimes a little enhancement in the rear speakers. I thought about buying some expensive equipment just to hear if all of that is true. Because it sounded amazing! But not enough to go and buy several hundred dollars of equipment. bb -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of John Gurd Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2015 9:27 AM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: SACD'S Hi Dane, I didn't realise SAD's could do multi-channel recordings. I have a few BluRay audio recordings which sound great but only one is multi-channal. While they sound great you still have to use a menu system to access them just as if they were BluRay video. I wish there were more multi-channel recordings around but there seem to be very few even for contempory output. I am thinking of upgrading my ancient BluRay Sony player as it is clunky and slow. Which Dennon player did you get? John -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 27 March 2015 00:05 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: SACD'S Hi! Been a good while since I've sat down and had a listen to my small collection of Super Audio CD'S, I had an old Pioneer DVD Player which handled them however that player is not compatible with any of the newer equipment I own so SACD'S had to wait until I could afford to buy a compatible player. The compatible player arrived in the form of a Denon Blu-Ray player about 3 weeks ago ,time to take some time out from the grind, put my feet up and listen again. There's no doubt about it in my view, the upgraded player for SACD'S was certainly worth the while given that each channel of the audio is now digitally delivered to the Denon Surround-Sound receiver, each channel being delivered via its own speaker rather than having to rely on processing to do the same job, the old Pioneer player would also deliver the channels to each speaker but in an Analogue mode and you can certainly pick the difference. The Pioneer player connected to a multi channel amp or Surround-Sound receiver by the use of multiple VCA connecting cords, one lead for each channel and the connection couldn't be done digitally even though the Pioneer had a Digital out connection - two in fact - they would allow the streaming of standard Audio or Surround-Sound audio and not from SACD. The Denon player on the other hand is completely digital for everything, one HDMI connection handles up to 8 channels of audio, HD 4K video - if available - and all the other controlling stuff that HDMI is capable of, certainly makes life one hell of a lot easier connecting HDMI devices rather than doing things the traditional way with RCA and other cords. I guess you're all wondering, what's the use of me getting SACD'S if I can only play them on a compatible player? That's true if you want to enjoy the multi channel benefits of SACD however a SACD will play in standard stereo mode quite happily in a standard CD Player. Time to get back to my Jeff Waynes Super Audio CD Version of War Of The worlds, the classic double album from 1978. -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves
RE: SACD'S
Hi Dane, I didn't realise SAD's could do multi-channel recordings. I have a few BluRay audio recordings which sound great but only one is multi-channal. While they sound great you still have to use a menu system to access them just as if they were BluRay video. I wish there were more multi-channel recordings around but there seem to be very few even for contempory output. I am thinking of upgrading my ancient BluRay Sony player as it is clunky and slow. Which Dennon player did you get? John -Original Message- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 27 March 2015 00:05 To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: SACD'S Hi! Been a good while since I've sat down and had a listen to my small collection of Super Audio CD'S, I had an old Pioneer DVD Player which handled them however that player is not compatible with any of the newer equipment I own so SACD'S had to wait until I could afford to buy a compatible player. The compatible player arrived in the form of a Denon Blu-Ray player about 3 weeks ago ,time to take some time out from the grind, put my feet up and listen again. There's no doubt about it in my view, the upgraded player for SACD'S was certainly worth the while given that each channel of the audio is now digitally delivered to the Denon Surround-Sound receiver, each channel being delivered via its own speaker rather than having to rely on processing to do the same job, the old Pioneer player would also deliver the channels to each speaker but in an Analogue mode and you can certainly pick the difference. The Pioneer player connected to a multi channel amp or Surround-Sound receiver by the use of multiple VCA connecting cords, one lead for each channel and the connection couldn't be done digitally even though the Pioneer had a Digital out connection - two in fact - they would allow the streaming of standard Audio or Surround-Sound audio and not from SACD. The Denon player on the other hand is completely digital for everything, one HDMI connection handles up to 8 channels of audio, HD 4K video - if available - and all the other controlling stuff that HDMI is capable of, certainly makes life one hell of a lot easier connecting HDMI devices rather than doing things the traditional way with RCA and other cords. I guess you're all wondering, what's the use of me getting SACD'S if I can only play them on a compatible player? That's true if you want to enjoy the multi channel benefits of SACD however a SACD will play in standard stereo mode quite happily in a standard CD Player. Time to get back to my Jeff Waynes Super Audio CD Version of War Of The worlds, the classic double album from 1978. -- ** Those who need help are those who are prepared to help themselves
