Re: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail Online

2016-03-10 Thread Dane Trethowan 
Hmm, interesting and that's about the time the USB C standard was 
launched so perhaps we'll see more of that in the future?


The Nexus P6 smartphone already has the USB C connector as part of it.



On 11/03/2016 8:56 AM, Brian Olesen wrote:

HI,
Actually it's old news, but here is an article from 2014 about it.

Europe approves common charger standard for mobe-makers

Apple and its proprietary Lightning rig may yet wriggle out of this one
O2_uni_charger

  17 Mar 2014 at 01:01,  Simon Sharwood

The European Parliament has signed off on its proposal to force mobile phone 
makers to adopt a common charging standard.

The new regulation means that if mobe-makers' want to meet European standards 
for “radio equipment” they'll have to ensure their products will have to be 
chargeable using micro-USB. But there are ways out of the proposal: the 
communiqué about the vote on the issue says “... it will be up to the European 
Commission to decide which specific types of radio equipment will have to meet 
this requirement”.

The vote also means that European Union members have two years in which to 
implement the regulation, with 2017 the target date for compliance by 
mobe-makers.

That leaves plenty of time in which to lobby for exemptions.

Most mobe-makers have moved to micro-USB charging, but the likes of Apple 
prefer their own arrangements on the basis that their technology is superior. 
With more and more of a phone's synching needs being met wirelessly and a 
single pin sufficing for charging over USB, just how Apple can dodge this one 
remains to be seen.

If we assume Cupertino insists on its own standard, perhaps slipping an adaptor 
into the box for future sold-in-Euroland iDevices will do the trick. ®

Brian

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Absolute twaddle and what regulations?

Micro USB for mobile is now old hack, make way for USB C and Apple are already 
using that on their Macbook range so perhaps USB C will appear on iPhone in the 
future though I doubt the immediate future, too many Lightning dock devices out 
there.



On 11 Mar 2016, at 6:33 AM, Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:

HI,
What I think is. They'll have to install a micro USB due to regulations in EU. 
They force all vendors to use the same standard for charging phones from I 
guess primo 2018.
So maybe they'll keep the lightning connector and add an additional usb port.
I'd also be happy for a micro SD card slot as an extra option like all the 
other brands have.

Brian

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Hell to the yeah to that!

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Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 1:49 PM
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Subject: Re: SV: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | 
DailyMail Online

They're removing it to make more room for even better things. Would you want a 
serial port on your phone? Or a floppy or CD drive? Let's think different. 
Let's think of possibilities and the future.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 10, 2016, at 7:08 AM, Brian Olesen <br...@blindkom.dk> wrote:

Hi,
Yeah right. They can go fuck them selves. :-( Now I'll dig into the
Android World to see how that works out ano 2016.
Good god 1 millimeter. What does that matter?

Brian


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DailyMail Online

It reduces thickness by one millimetre.
but they want to make more money by making us by their particular
headphhone.


From: Brian Olesen
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:03 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket |
DailyMail Online

Hi,
It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones
so I'll skip this update and stay with 6S.
Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up
much space.

Best regards
Brian

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I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what
they can do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be
just audio that goes through them.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 9, 2016

Re: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail Online

2016-03-10 Thread Dane Trethowan 

Yes, delay can be a problem particularly when it comes to speech.

Some Bluetooth devices do have a pronounced problem with delay whilst 
others don't, the delay is there but its less than a quarter of a second.


Perhaps Apple might make the Bluetooth system a little more configurable 
as it is on the Android devices I have here, I can set speech and music 
- along with other audio sources - to go through different channels, 
music say through Bluetooth and speech through the internal speaker of 
the device itself.


Personally I think its only a matter of time before more manufacturers 
of devices ditch the headphones socket in their devices.




On 11/03/2016 1:02 AM, Michael Mote wrote:

I use the Bose OE Sound Link headphones, and the latency is not good at all.
There is quite a delay that is annoying.  That is why I still use my trusty
analog headset for now.  I haven't figured out a way to improve the latency.
I wish I could, because I want to rid myself of as many connections and
wires as possible.



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Subject: RE: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail
Online

Oooo harsh. Ahahahahahhhahaahahahahahaaha. No but seriously. If for what
ever reason I should up grade that means there goes my Bose OE2I head set.
Because they ain't blue tooth. I personally say what evs, I'll just buy the
blue tooth version. No biggy. But for this problem. Money's tight.

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Subject: SV: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail
Online

Hi,
Yeah right. They can go fuck them selves. :-( Now I'll dig into the Android
World to see how that works out ano 2016.
Good god 1 millimeter. What does that matter?

Brian


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It reduces thickness by one millimetre.
but they want to make more money by making us by their particular
headphhone.


From: Brian Olesen
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:03 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List'
Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail
Online

Hi,
It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll
skip this update and stay with 6S.
Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much
space.

Best regards
Brian

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I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can
do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that
goes through them.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>

wrote:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump
-headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers
.html

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RE: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail Online

2016-03-10 Thread Michael Mote 
I use the Bose OE Sound Link headphones, and the latency is not good at all.
There is quite a delay that is annoying.  That is why I still use my trusty
analog headset for now.  I haven't figured out a way to improve the latency.
I wish I could, because I want to rid myself of as many connections and
wires as possible.



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Subject: RE: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail
Online

Oooo harsh. Ahahahahahhhahaahahahahahaaha. No but seriously. If for what
ever reason I should up grade that means there goes my Bose OE2I head set.
Because they ain't blue tooth. I personally say what evs, I'll just buy the
blue tooth version. No biggy. But for this problem. Money's tight.

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Olesen
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Subject: SV: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail
Online

Hi,
Yeah right. They can go fuck them selves. :-( Now I'll dig into the Android
World to see how that works out ano 2016.
Good god 1 millimeter. What does that matter?

Brian


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It reduces thickness by one millimetre. 
but they want to make more money by making us by their particular
headphhone.


From: Brian Olesen
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:03 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail
Online

Hi,
It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll
skip this update and stay with 6S.
Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much
space.

Best regards
Brian

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Online

I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can
do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that
goes through them. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>
wrote:
> 
>
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump
-headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers
.html
> 
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RE: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail Online

2016-03-10 Thread Hamit Campos 
Ah they will have to have a blue tooh Ear pod. Right.

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Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 7:15 AM
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Subject: Re: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail
Online

It reduces thickness by one millimetre. 
but they want to make more money by making us by their particular
headphhone.


From: Brian Olesen
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:03 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail
Online

Hi,
It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll
skip this update and stay with 6S.
Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much
space.

Best regards
Brian

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Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can
do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that
goes through them. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>
wrote:
> 
>
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump
-headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers
.html
> 
> --
> 
> **
> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
> 
>

RE: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail Online

2016-03-10 Thread Hamit Campos 
Oooo harsh. Ahahahahahhhahaahahahahahaaha. No but seriously. If for what
ever reason I should up grade that means there goes my Bose OE2I head set.
Because they ain't blue tooth. I personally say what evs, I'll just buy the
blue tooth version. No biggy. But for this problem. Money's tight.

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Olesen
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:09 AM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Subject: SV: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail
Online

Hi,
Yeah right. They can go fuck them selves. :-( Now I'll dig into the Android
World to see how that works out ano 2016.
Good god 1 millimeter. What does that matter?

Brian


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Emne: Re: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail
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It reduces thickness by one millimetre. 
but they want to make more money by making us by their particular
headphhone.


From: Brian Olesen
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:03 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail
Online

Hi,
It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll
skip this update and stay with 6S.
Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much
space.

Best regards
Brian

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Emne: Re: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | Daily Mail
Online

I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can
do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that
goes through them. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net>
wrote:
> 
>
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump
-headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers
.html
> 
> --
> 
> **
> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves
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Re: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail Online

2016-03-10 Thread Peter Scanlon 
It reduces thickness by one millimetre. 
but they want to make more money by making us by their particular headphhone.


From: Brian Olesen 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:03 PM
To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
Subject: SV: Apple's iPhone 7 WILL dump the headphone socket | DailyMail Online

Hi,
It's a real shame. We are many, who like the analog style headphones so I'll
skip this update and stay with 6S.
Any reason why they're removing the plug? I mean they don't take up much
space.

Best regards
Brian

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I can't wait to see what the new headphones are like, and even what they can
do now that they have digital capabilities. It might not be just audio that
goes through them. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 9, 2016, at 8:21 PM, Dane Trethowan 
wrote:
> 
>
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3484392/Apple-s-iPhone-7-dump
-headphone-socket-Leaked-case-shows-superslim-design-instead-stereo-speakers
.html
> 
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> 
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