Re: Searching for Recommendations: 4-Channel Mixer for Online Broadcasting, and an eq
I love the hell outa the Mackie, but I'll tell you, you use up eight channels in a quickquick hurry! Two for a stereo mic, four for two synths, two for an external audio feed through the Firewire interface, and you're done. If I could afford it, I'd've gotten the 1640, but it's thrice the price. For now, I'm full up, but as long as I don't need everything at once, I can unplug or patch out some things and bring in others. It sounds great, does what I want, and I'd recommend it to anyone looking for a high-quality lasts-forever entry-level eight-channel board that's portable and lightweight, easy to use, and flexible within reason. Regarding your equalizer, well, more bands is always better, but with my messed-up ears, I've found anything more than five bands is overkill unless you're in a recording studio with lots of requirements for frequency-band suppression or amplification for certain instrument and microphone combinations. Then you can fine-tune almost anything to resemble almost anything you want, regardless of the mic or instrument or acoustics or anything. On Mon, 19 Sep 2011 19:11:30 -0600, you wrote: How is that macky? I almost bought one, I'm also looking for an eq and saw a dbx 15 band for about 160 bucks, not bad I thought. I don't know enough about 31 band eq to justify the money on it Dave C. Bahr On 9/19/2011 5:10 PM, Steve Matzura wrote: Behringer is the king of the USB's, but their interfaces, both hardware and software, are quirky at best. The software interface does the strangest thing I've ever seen--it locks itself to the USB port on your computer to which you attach the hardware interface. The hardsware interface is supposed to hook up to the tape in/outs on the Behringer, which typically are noisier than the standard ins and outs on the main board. If you could adapt XLR to RCA plugs, you could get a better quality audio signal into or out of the USB interface, but that port-tethering thing, ... that's why I ditched the Behringer I had and went with the Mackie 820I. On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 09:33:24 -0600, you wrote: do you know if they have something similar that has a usb interface? I almost bought a maki, but it was a regular mixer. but not enough money. Dave C. Bahr On 9/8/2011 8:04 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: Highly recommend the Mackie 820I which requires a Firewire interface. On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 22:13:50 +0100, you wrote: Hi. Am based in the UK and found lots on Amazon, but many of them were very cheap (£15-ish) and seemed to be called microphone mixers. I presume that they're not powerful enough to channel something as powerful as a laptop or USB soundcard (hence the low price), so am trying to make sure what the differences are and to ensure that I get an affordable product which won't go to waste. I presumed there might be some people on here who already use appropriate gear for broadcasting or DJ-ing and might therefore be able to advise from first-hand experience or knowledge of how these things work. Cheers, Danny On 9/2/11, Paul (Pawel) Lobapa...@velcom.ca wrote: Hi, Have you tried google for compact 4-channel mixer? You need to avoid a digital one since it can be hard to go around blindly. Hth, Pawel. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Danny Miles Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 3:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Searching for Recommendations: 4-Channel Mixer for Online Broadcasting Hi all. I'm looking to do some internet radio broadcasting and, having found that broadcasting directly through my computer or soundcard makes my microphone sound horrible (muffled, buzzing noise behind vocals, popping when turned on/off, etc), I'm looking for a suitable and accessible 4-channel mixer which I can use to channel my soundcard and microphone. I'd also like to have the option of plugging headphones into it so that I can hear the results of my work as it happens, and features such as being able to use more than one channel at once (such as talking over the start/end of a track) are also very important. Unfortunately I'm very short of space, so I need something which has good quality output but which is as compact as possible. I know this is quite a specific set of requirements, but if anyone knows of such a model which is accessible for use by someone with total sight loss (no issues with seeing lights showing feedback etc), I'd be grateful to hear details. I'd also appreciate advice on any adaptors which I might need to help me plug 3.5 mm jacks and an XLR microphone into such a machine, as this is my first time of exploring this area of production. Many thanks in advance for any help and advice, Danny To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To
Re: Searching for Recommendations: 4-Channel Mixer for Online Broadcasting
Behringer is the king of the USB's, but their interfaces, both hardware and software, are quirky at best. The software interface does the strangest thing I've ever seen--it locks itself to the USB port on your computer to which you attach the hardware interface. The hardsware interface is supposed to hook up to the tape in/outs on the Behringer, which typically are noisier than the standard ins and outs on the main board. If you could adapt XLR to RCA plugs, you could get a better quality audio signal into or out of the USB interface, but that port-tethering thing, ... that's why I ditched the Behringer I had and went with the Mackie 820I. On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 09:33:24 -0600, you wrote: do you know if they have something similar that has a usb interface? I almost bought a maki, but it was a regular mixer. but not enough money. Dave C. Bahr On 9/8/2011 8:04 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: Highly recommend the Mackie 820I which requires a Firewire interface. On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 22:13:50 +0100, you wrote: Hi. Am based in the UK and found lots on Amazon, but many of them were very cheap (£15-ish) and seemed to be called microphone mixers. I presume that they're not powerful enough to channel something as powerful as a laptop or USB soundcard (hence the low price), so am trying to make sure what the differences are and to ensure that I get an affordable product which won't go to waste. I presumed there might be some people on here who already use appropriate gear for broadcasting or DJ-ing and might therefore be able to advise from first-hand experience or knowledge of how these things work. Cheers, Danny On 9/2/11, Paul (Pawel) Lobapa...@velcom.ca wrote: Hi, Have you tried google for compact 4-channel mixer? You need to avoid a digital one since it can be hard to go around blindly. Hth, Pawel. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Danny Miles Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 3:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Searching for Recommendations: 4-Channel Mixer for Online Broadcasting Hi all. I'm looking to do some internet radio broadcasting and, having found that broadcasting directly through my computer or soundcard makes my microphone sound horrible (muffled, buzzing noise behind vocals, popping when turned on/off, etc), I'm looking for a suitable and accessible 4-channel mixer which I can use to channel my soundcard and microphone. I'd also like to have the option of plugging headphones into it so that I can hear the results of my work as it happens, and features such as being able to use more than one channel at once (such as talking over the start/end of a track) are also very important. Unfortunately I'm very short of space, so I need something which has good quality output but which is as compact as possible. I know this is quite a specific set of requirements, but if anyone knows of such a model which is accessible for use by someone with total sight loss (no issues with seeing lights showing feedback etc), I'd be grateful to hear details. I'd also appreciate advice on any adaptors which I might need to help me plug 3.5 mm jacks and an XLR microphone into such a machine, as this is my first time of exploring this area of production. Many thanks in advance for any help and advice, Danny To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Searching for Recommendations: 4-Channel Mixer for Online Broadcasting, and an eq
How is that macky? I almost bought one, I'm also looking for an eq and saw a dbx 15 band for about 160 bucks, not bad I thought. I don't know enough about 31 band eq to justify the money on it Dave C. Bahr On 9/19/2011 5:10 PM, Steve Matzura wrote: Behringer is the king of the USB's, but their interfaces, both hardware and software, are quirky at best. The software interface does the strangest thing I've ever seen--it locks itself to the USB port on your computer to which you attach the hardware interface. The hardsware interface is supposed to hook up to the tape in/outs on the Behringer, which typically are noisier than the standard ins and outs on the main board. If you could adapt XLR to RCA plugs, you could get a better quality audio signal into or out of the USB interface, but that port-tethering thing, ... that's why I ditched the Behringer I had and went with the Mackie 820I. On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 09:33:24 -0600, you wrote: do you know if they have something similar that has a usb interface? I almost bought a maki, but it was a regular mixer. but not enough money. Dave C. Bahr On 9/8/2011 8:04 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: Highly recommend the Mackie 820I which requires a Firewire interface. On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 22:13:50 +0100, you wrote: Hi. Am based in the UK and found lots on Amazon, but many of them were very cheap (£15-ish) and seemed to be called microphone mixers. I presume that they're not powerful enough to channel something as powerful as a laptop or USB soundcard (hence the low price), so am trying to make sure what the differences are and to ensure that I get an affordable product which won't go to waste. I presumed there might be some people on here who already use appropriate gear for broadcasting or DJ-ing and might therefore be able to advise from first-hand experience or knowledge of how these things work. Cheers, Danny On 9/2/11, Paul (Pawel) Lobapa...@velcom.ca wrote: Hi, Have you tried google for compact 4-channel mixer? You need to avoid a digital one since it can be hard to go around blindly. Hth, Pawel. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Danny Miles Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 3:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Searching for Recommendations: 4-Channel Mixer for Online Broadcasting Hi all. I'm looking to do some internet radio broadcasting and, having found that broadcasting directly through my computer or soundcard makes my microphone sound horrible (muffled, buzzing noise behind vocals, popping when turned on/off, etc), I'm looking for a suitable and accessible 4-channel mixer which I can use to channel my soundcard and microphone. I'd also like to have the option of plugging headphones into it so that I can hear the results of my work as it happens, and features such as being able to use more than one channel at once (such as talking over the start/end of a track) are also very important. Unfortunately I'm very short of space, so I need something which has good quality output but which is as compact as possible. I know this is quite a specific set of requirements, but if anyone knows of such a model which is accessible for use by someone with total sight loss (no issues with seeing lights showing feedback etc), I'd be grateful to hear details. I'd also appreciate advice on any adaptors which I might need to help me plug 3.5 mm jacks and an XLR microphone into such a machine, as this is my first time of exploring this area of production. Many thanks in advance for any help and advice, Danny To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Searching for Recommendations: 4-Channel Mixer for Online Broadcasting, and an eq
Hi guys, has anyone ever heard of theTascam FW1884daw? I know of one available for around $800 new. But I don't know much about it and if I would be able to use it with my Kurzweil K2600 keyboard and my MacBook pro. Any thoughts on this unit? Thanks, Johnny Chilelli On 9/19/2011 9:11 PM, Dave bahr wrote: How is that macky? I almost bought one, I'm also looking for an eq and saw a dbx 15 band for about 160 bucks, not bad I thought. I don't know enough about 31 band eq to justify the money on it Dave C. Bahr On 9/19/2011 5:10 PM, Steve Matzura wrote: Behringer is the king of the USB's, but their interfaces, both hardware and software, are quirky at best. The software interface does the strangest thing I've ever seen--it locks itself to the USB port on your computer to which you attach the hardware interface. The hardsware interface is supposed to hook up to the tape in/outs on the Behringer, which typically are noisier than the standard ins and outs on the main board. If you could adapt XLR to RCA plugs, you could get a better quality audio signal into or out of the USB interface, but that port-tethering thing, ... that's why I ditched the Behringer I had and went with the Mackie 820I. On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 09:33:24 -0600, you wrote: do you know if they have something similar that has a usb interface? I almost bought a maki, but it was a regular mixer. but not enough money. Dave C. Bahr On 9/8/2011 8:04 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: Highly recommend the Mackie 820I which requires a Firewire interface. On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 22:13:50 +0100, you wrote: Hi. Am based in the UK and found lots on Amazon, but many of them were very cheap (£15-ish) and seemed to be called microphone mixers. I presume that they're not powerful enough to channel something as powerful as a laptop or USB soundcard (hence the low price), so am trying to make sure what the differences are and to ensure that I get an affordable product which won't go to waste. I presumed there might be some people on here who already use appropriate gear for broadcasting or DJ-ing and might therefore be able to advise from first-hand experience or knowledge of how these things work. Cheers, Danny On 9/2/11, Paul (Pawel) Lobapa...@velcom.ca wrote: Hi, Have you tried google for compact 4-channel mixer? You need to avoid a digital one since it can be hard to go around blindly. Hth, Pawel. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Danny Miles Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 3:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Searching for Recommendations: 4-Channel Mixer for Online Broadcasting Hi all. I'm looking to do some internet radio broadcasting and, having found that broadcasting directly through my computer or soundcard makes my microphone sound horrible (muffled, buzzing noise behind vocals, popping when turned on/off, etc), I'm looking for a suitable and accessible 4-channel mixer which I can use to channel my soundcard and microphone. I'd also like to have the option of plugging headphones into it so that I can hear the results of my work as it happens, and features such as being able to use more than one channel at once (such as talking over the start/end of a track) are also very important. Unfortunately I'm very short of space, so I need something which has good quality output but which is as compact as possible. I know this is quite a specific set of requirements, but if anyone knows of such a model which is accessible for use by someone with total sight loss (no issues with seeing lights showing feedback etc), I'd be grateful to hear details. I'd also appreciate advice on any adaptors which I might need to help me plug 3.5 mm jacks and an XLR microphone into such a machine, as this is my first time of exploring this area of production. Many thanks in advance for any help and advice, Danny To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org -- Johnny Chilelli Student of Happyness Erie, PA, USA To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Searching for Recommendations: 4-Channel Mixer for Online Broadcasting
Highly recommend the Mackie 820I which requires a Firewire interface. On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 22:13:50 +0100, you wrote: Hi. Am based in the UK and found lots on Amazon, but many of them were very cheap (£15-ish) and seemed to be called microphone mixers. I presume that they're not powerful enough to channel something as powerful as a laptop or USB soundcard (hence the low price), so am trying to make sure what the differences are and to ensure that I get an affordable product which won't go to waste. I presumed there might be some people on here who already use appropriate gear for broadcasting or DJ-ing and might therefore be able to advise from first-hand experience or knowledge of how these things work. Cheers, Danny On 9/2/11, Paul (Pawel) Loba pa...@velcom.ca wrote: Hi, Have you tried google for compact 4-channel mixer? You need to avoid a digital one since it can be hard to go around blindly. Hth, Pawel. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Danny Miles Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 3:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Searching for Recommendations: 4-Channel Mixer for Online Broadcasting Hi all. I'm looking to do some internet radio broadcasting and, having found that broadcasting directly through my computer or soundcard makes my microphone sound horrible (muffled, buzzing noise behind vocals, popping when turned on/off, etc), I'm looking for a suitable and accessible 4-channel mixer which I can use to channel my soundcard and microphone. I'd also like to have the option of plugging headphones into it so that I can hear the results of my work as it happens, and features such as being able to use more than one channel at once (such as talking over the start/end of a track) are also very important. Unfortunately I'm very short of space, so I need something which has good quality output but which is as compact as possible. I know this is quite a specific set of requirements, but if anyone knows of such a model which is accessible for use by someone with total sight loss (no issues with seeing lights showing feedback etc), I'd be grateful to hear details. I'd also appreciate advice on any adaptors which I might need to help me plug 3.5 mm jacks and an XLR microphone into such a machine, as this is my first time of exploring this area of production. Many thanks in advance for any help and advice, Danny To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Searching for Recommendations: 4-Channel Mixer for Online Broadcasting
do you know if they have something similar that has a usb interface? I almost bought a maki, but it was a regular mixer. but not enough money. Dave C. Bahr On 9/8/2011 8:04 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: Highly recommend the Mackie 820I which requires a Firewire interface. On Fri, 2 Sep 2011 22:13:50 +0100, you wrote: Hi. Am based in the UK and found lots on Amazon, but many of them were very cheap (£15-ish) and seemed to be called microphone mixers. I presume that they're not powerful enough to channel something as powerful as a laptop or USB soundcard (hence the low price), so am trying to make sure what the differences are and to ensure that I get an affordable product which won't go to waste. I presumed there might be some people on here who already use appropriate gear for broadcasting or DJ-ing and might therefore be able to advise from first-hand experience or knowledge of how these things work. Cheers, Danny On 9/2/11, Paul (Pawel) Lobapa...@velcom.ca wrote: Hi, Have you tried google for compact 4-channel mixer? You need to avoid a digital one since it can be hard to go around blindly. Hth, Pawel. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Danny Miles Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 3:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Searching for Recommendations: 4-Channel Mixer for Online Broadcasting Hi all. I'm looking to do some internet radio broadcasting and, having found that broadcasting directly through my computer or soundcard makes my microphone sound horrible (muffled, buzzing noise behind vocals, popping when turned on/off, etc), I'm looking for a suitable and accessible 4-channel mixer which I can use to channel my soundcard and microphone. I'd also like to have the option of plugging headphones into it so that I can hear the results of my work as it happens, and features such as being able to use more than one channel at once (such as talking over the start/end of a track) are also very important. Unfortunately I'm very short of space, so I need something which has good quality output but which is as compact as possible. I know this is quite a specific set of requirements, but if anyone knows of such a model which is accessible for use by someone with total sight loss (no issues with seeing lights showing feedback etc), I'd be grateful to hear details. I'd also appreciate advice on any adaptors which I might need to help me plug 3.5 mm jacks and an XLR microphone into such a machine, as this is my first time of exploring this area of production. Many thanks in advance for any help and advice, Danny To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
RE: Searching for Recommendations: 4-Channel Mixer for Online Broadcasting
Hi, Have you tried google for compact 4-channel mixer? You need to avoid a digital one since it can be hard to go around blindly. Hth, Pawel. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Danny Miles Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 3:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Searching for Recommendations: 4-Channel Mixer for Online Broadcasting Hi all. I'm looking to do some internet radio broadcasting and, having found that broadcasting directly through my computer or soundcard makes my microphone sound horrible (muffled, buzzing noise behind vocals, popping when turned on/off, etc), I'm looking for a suitable and accessible 4-channel mixer which I can use to channel my soundcard and microphone. I'd also like to have the option of plugging headphones into it so that I can hear the results of my work as it happens, and features such as being able to use more than one channel at once (such as talking over the start/end of a track) are also very important. Unfortunately I'm very short of space, so I need something which has good quality output but which is as compact as possible. I know this is quite a specific set of requirements, but if anyone knows of such a model which is accessible for use by someone with total sight loss (no issues with seeing lights showing feedback etc), I'd be grateful to hear details. I'd also appreciate advice on any adaptors which I might need to help me plug 3.5 mm jacks and an XLR microphone into such a machine, as this is my first time of exploring this area of production. Many thanks in advance for any help and advice, Danny To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Searching for Recommendations: 4-Channel Mixer for Online Broadcasting
Hi. Am based in the UK and found lots on Amazon, but many of them were very cheap (£15-ish) and seemed to be called microphone mixers. I presume that they're not powerful enough to channel something as powerful as a laptop or USB soundcard (hence the low price), so am trying to make sure what the differences are and to ensure that I get an affordable product which won't go to waste. I presumed there might be some people on here who already use appropriate gear for broadcasting or DJ-ing and might therefore be able to advise from first-hand experience or knowledge of how these things work. Cheers, Danny On 9/2/11, Paul (Pawel) Loba pa...@velcom.ca wrote: Hi, Have you tried google for compact 4-channel mixer? You need to avoid a digital one since it can be hard to go around blindly. Hth, Pawel. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Danny Miles Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 3:38 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Searching for Recommendations: 4-Channel Mixer for Online Broadcasting Hi all. I'm looking to do some internet radio broadcasting and, having found that broadcasting directly through my computer or soundcard makes my microphone sound horrible (muffled, buzzing noise behind vocals, popping when turned on/off, etc), I'm looking for a suitable and accessible 4-channel mixer which I can use to channel my soundcard and microphone. I'd also like to have the option of plugging headphones into it so that I can hear the results of my work as it happens, and features such as being able to use more than one channel at once (such as talking over the start/end of a track) are also very important. Unfortunately I'm very short of space, so I need something which has good quality output but which is as compact as possible. I know this is quite a specific set of requirements, but if anyone knows of such a model which is accessible for use by someone with total sight loss (no issues with seeing lights showing feedback etc), I'd be grateful to hear details. I'd also appreciate advice on any adaptors which I might need to help me plug 3.5 mm jacks and an XLR microphone into such a machine, as this is my first time of exploring this area of production. Many thanks in advance for any help and advice, Danny To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org