Re: Streaming Audio to a Non-Networked Device

2009-05-08 Thread Rick Alfaro
So how does a blind user go about selecting music from the Linksys 
device?  I'm sure there is probably a remote that comes with it but the 
trouble I ran into with a similar device called the Roqu SoundBridge, 
was that selecting folders or tunes was all done via a display while 
controlling it with a remote.  Not accessible at all other than 
memorizing some keystrokes to try and get to a play list or folder of 
music.  You could do stuff from the pc side and the software was 
somewhat usable, but that was not much help if you are sitting in 
somewhere else, a few rooms away.


There used to be a device called the CD3O that actually used TTS to 
announce the songs and I had heard that the device was actually quite 
accessible, but I don't know if that company is even in business any longer.


RA


On 5/7/2009 4:40 PM, David Edick wrote:

this is wireless, however it does have a Ethernet port for configuration. it
does have digital out as well as analog stereo via a mini plug or 2 stereo
RCA plugs. the software can be used with a screen reader  and there is a
tray icon for toggling the sound from the linksys device or your sound card.
however that isn't necessary. you would use the software to connect to the
music bridge, or bridges that are hangin' out on your network.



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Subject: Re: Streaming Audio to a Non-Networked Device

On Wed, 6 May 2009 07:52:55 -0700, you wrote:


Have you looked at something like the Linksys wireless G music bridge?


No, but that's only because I've not heard of it before just now.


basically the software CD installs a C-Media sound driver which sends the
audio to a configured music bridge device that connects to a line in on

your

receiver.


That's the kind of thing I'm after, all right.


you would need to configure it with the supplied software to access any of
the music bridge devices you acquire.


So, it hangs out on the network, and the software on some PC somewhere
finds it and set it up, then you use it to access stuff, or you use
the computer to send stuff to it?  I'd much prefer the former, which
is what makes the netbook so atractive.  Are these Music Bridge things
wireless (I hope)?

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Re: Streaming Audio to a Non-Networked Device

2009-05-08 Thread Rick Alfaro
Most of the NetBooks I have read about including the one I own seem to 
have a RealTek chip set.  I haven't tried hooking mine up to a stereo 
system, but the output sounds decent through headphones and the 
microphone actually sounds quite good for what it is.  I have the Asus 
904HA.


RA


On 5/7/2009 4:47 PM, Steve Matzura wrote:

On Wed, 6 May 2009 06:59:03 -0600, you wrote:


Why not just get a netbook? If you get one with a wireless adaptor you would 
only need run a stereo y jack from it to your entertainment center.


That's a definite possibility, they're so cheap!  Anybody know how
good the sound card in them is?  Some are very noisy and crackly.

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Re: Streaming Audio to a Non-Networked Device

2009-05-07 Thread Steve Matzura
On Wed, 6 May 2009 07:52:55 -0700, you wrote:

Have you looked at something like the Linksys wireless G music bridge?

No, but that's only because I've not heard of it before just now.

basically the software CD installs a C-Media sound driver which sends the
audio to a configured music bridge device that connects to a line in on your
receiver.

That's the kind of thing I'm after, all right.

you would need to configure it with the supplied software to access any of
the music bridge devices you acquire.

So, it hangs out on the network, and the software on some PC somewhere
finds it and set it up, then you use it to access stuff, or you use
the computer to send stuff to it?  I'd much prefer the former, which
is what makes the netbook so atractive.  Are these Music Bridge things
wireless (I hope)?

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Re: Streaming Audio to a Non-Networked Device

2009-05-07 Thread Steve Matzura
Yeah Rick, sounds like this would be the best thing to do, and I
already have the machine to do it with, no problem at all.  My
receiver is too old for digital input, though.  Its manufacture was
stopped in 1993, although the companion CD player does have an optical
output (one of those funny square connectors, not SPDIF or anything
like that).  This is probably how it'll go, but the music bridge thing
might be right for the bedroom environment, where things have to be
smaller, or maybe the netbook, which is pretty small.

On Wed, 06 May 2009 12:05:12 -0400, you wrote:

Steve,

I went through this very thing, trying to find a good but fairly 
accessible way to stream media to my fairly high end home entertainment 
setup in our living room and never found anything I was truly pleased 
with.

Last year I decided to go the way of a pc with XP installed on it and it 
was the best decision I could have made.  It doesn't even have to be 
media center.  I have an Ethernet connection now in the living room, but 
for quite a while I simply used 802.11g and it worked fine.  I had 
access to all of my music, and being a NetFlix subscriber, I am also 
able to stream movies from the NetFlix site.

This is all done on a refurbished machine that I picked up for around 
$250.  I simply installed an old SoundBlaster Live card I had lying 
around to give me digital out for audio

Since my wife and daughter needed good video for the Netflix movies, I 
bought a video card from NewEgg with DVI output to go to our hd TV so 
video looks great.  You have to match the output of the video card to 
whatever your TV accepts like DVI, HDMI, or Component if you care about 
video.

I use either Winamp or Itunes for streaming my music from a network 
drive and it sounds terrific.

To me, this is the best setup because it is easy, in expensive, and 
perfectly accessible.

RA


On 5/6/2009 6:22 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:
 I'm always after a better solution to my same old problem of streaming
 Internet audio to a non-Internet device, such as my living-room
 entertainment center, or my bedside radio.  I'm so disgusted with the
 FM transmitter thing because of all the metal studs in my walls, I'm
 once again looking at something I can use with my wireless router, put
 it anywhere, and plug it up to an audio device as described above.  A
 Media Center PC might be a good alternative, but are they under $500
 yet?  The $500 price point is based on the price of a rather
 interesting piece of gear from Logitech that will do the job and even
 allow direct access to one's own media library, but of course it's
 hopelessly inaccessible by a totally blind person.  The Media Center
 PC, however, could be made accessible simply by installing a
 screenreader on it, even if it's Narrator or one of the free ones out
 there--we're not doing rocket science projects on it, we're just
 picking music and playing it, so it won't matter how good the
 screenreader is or isn't.  Like I said, even Narrator'll do for this
 purpose!  And for your five portraits of Mr. Franklin, you get a real
 computer to boot!

 Has anybody had any experience with any of these streaming products
 like the Logitech one?  Or is it your considered opinion to go the PC
 or cheap Mac route?

 Thanks in advance.

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Re: Streaming Audio to a Non-Networked Device

2009-05-07 Thread Steve Matzura
On Wed, 6 May 2009 06:59:03 -0600, you wrote:

Why not just get a netbook? If you get one with a wireless adaptor you would 
only need run a stereo y jack from it to your entertainment center.

That's a definite possibility, they're so cheap!  Anybody know how
good the sound card in them is?  Some are very noisy and crackly.

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RE: Streaming Audio to a Non-Networked Device

2009-05-07 Thread David Edick
this is wireless, however it does have a Ethernet port for configuration. it
does have digital out as well as analog stereo via a mini plug or 2 stereo
RCA plugs. the software can be used with a screen reader  and there is a
tray icon for toggling the sound from the linksys device or your sound card.
however that isn't necessary. you would use the software to connect to the
music bridge, or bridges that are hangin' out on your network.



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On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:06 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Streaming Audio to a Non-Networked Device

On Wed, 6 May 2009 07:52:55 -0700, you wrote:

Have you looked at something like the Linksys wireless G music bridge?

No, but that's only because I've not heard of it before just now.

basically the software CD installs a C-Media sound driver which sends the
audio to a configured music bridge device that connects to a line in on
your
receiver.

That's the kind of thing I'm after, all right.

you would need to configure it with the supplied software to access any of
the music bridge devices you acquire.

So, it hangs out on the network, and the software on some PC somewhere
finds it and set it up, then you use it to access stuff, or you use
the computer to send stuff to it?  I'd much prefer the former, which
is what makes the netbook so atractive.  Are these Music Bridge things
wireless (I hope)?

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Re: Streaming Audio to a Non-Networked Device

2009-05-07 Thread Constantine

Soundcard in mine rocks. I like it.


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Subject: Re: Streaming Audio to a Non-Networked Device



On Wed, 6 May 2009 06:59:03 -0600, you wrote:

Why not just get a netbook? If you get one with a wireless adaptor you 
would only need run a stereo y jack from it to your entertainment center.


That's a definite possibility, they're so cheap!  Anybody know how
good the sound card in them is?  Some are very noisy and crackly.

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RE: Streaming Audio to a Non-Networked Device

2009-05-06 Thread David Edick
Have you looked at something like the Linksys wireless G music bridge?
basically the software CD installs a C-Media sound driver which sends the
audio to a configured music bridge device that connects to a line in on your
receiver.

you would need to configure it with the supplied software to access any of
the music bridge devices you acquire.

they cost about $100 depending on where you buy them. it looks like a good
idea, and I am considering this device myself.


just a thought,

/David
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On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 3:23 AM
To: pc-audio
Subject: Streaming Audio to a Non-Networked Device

I'm always after a better solution to my same old problem of streaming
Internet audio to a non-Internet device, such as my living-room
entertainment center, or my bedside radio.  I'm so disgusted with the
FM transmitter thing because of all the metal studs in my walls, I'm
once again looking at something I can use with my wireless router, put
it anywhere, and plug it up to an audio device as described above.  A
Media Center PC might be a good alternative, but are they under $500
yet?  The $500 price point is based on the price of a rather
interesting piece of gear from Logitech that will do the job and even
allow direct access to one's own media library, but of course it's
hopelessly inaccessible by a totally blind person.  The Media Center
PC, however, could be made accessible simply by installing a
screenreader on it, even if it's Narrator or one of the free ones out
there--we're not doing rocket science projects on it, we're just
picking music and playing it, so it won't matter how good the
screenreader is or isn't.  Like I said, even Narrator'll do for this
purpose!  And for your five portraits of Mr. Franklin, you get a real
computer to boot!

Has anybody had any experience with any of these streaming products
like the Logitech one?  Or is it your considered opinion to go the PC
or cheap Mac route?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Streaming Audio to a Non-Networked Device

2009-05-06 Thread Robert doc Wright
Why not just get a netbook? If you get one with a wireless adaptor you would 
only need run a stereo y jack from it to your entertainment center.

--

By the time you can make ends meet, they move the ends. 
--
robert Doc Wright
http://www.wrightplaceinc.net
msn
godfeare...@hotmail.com
 





- Original Message - 
From: Steve Matzura 
To: pc-audio 
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 4:22 AM
Subject: Streaming Audio to a Non-Networked Device


I'm always after a better solution to my same old problem of streaming
Internet audio to a non-Internet device, such as my living-room
entertainment center, or my bedside radio.  I'm so disgusted with the
FM transmitter thing because of all the metal studs in my walls, I'm
once again looking at something I can use with my wireless router, put
it anywhere, and plug it up to an audio device as described above.  A
Media Center PC might be a good alternative, but are they under $500
yet?  The $500 price point is based on the price of a rather
interesting piece of gear from Logitech that will do the job and even
allow direct access to one's own media library, but of course it's
hopelessly inaccessible by a totally blind person.  The Media Center
PC, however, could be made accessible simply by installing a
screenreader on it, even if it's Narrator or one of the free ones out
there--we're not doing rocket science projects on it, we're just
picking music and playing it, so it won't matter how good the
screenreader is or isn't.  Like I said, even Narrator'll do for this
purpose!  And for your five portraits of Mr. Franklin, you get a real
computer to boot!

Has anybody had any experience with any of these streaming products
like the Logitech one?  Or is it your considered opinion to go the PC
or cheap Mac route?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Streaming Audio to a Non-Networked Device

2009-05-06 Thread Rick Alfaro

Steve,

I went through this very thing, trying to find a good but fairly 
accessible way to stream media to my fairly high end home entertainment 
setup in our living room and never found anything I was truly pleased 
with.


Last year I decided to go the way of a pc with XP installed on it and it 
was the best decision I could have made.  It doesn't even have to be 
media center.  I have an Ethernet connection now in the living room, but 
for quite a while I simply used 802.11g and it worked fine.  I had 
access to all of my music, and being a NetFlix subscriber, I am also 
able to stream movies from the NetFlix site.


This is all done on a refurbished machine that I picked up for around 
$250.  I simply installed an old SoundBlaster Live card I had lying 
around to give me digital out for audio


Since my wife and daughter needed good video for the Netflix movies, I 
bought a video card from NewEgg with DVI output to go to our hd TV so 
video looks great.  You have to match the output of the video card to 
whatever your TV accepts like DVI, HDMI, or Component if you care about 
video.


I use either Winamp or Itunes for streaming my music from a network 
drive and it sounds terrific.


To me, this is the best setup because it is easy, in expensive, and 
perfectly accessible.


RA


On 5/6/2009 6:22 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:

I'm always after a better solution to my same old problem of streaming
Internet audio to a non-Internet device, such as my living-room
entertainment center, or my bedside radio.  I'm so disgusted with the
FM transmitter thing because of all the metal studs in my walls, I'm
once again looking at something I can use with my wireless router, put
it anywhere, and plug it up to an audio device as described above.  A
Media Center PC might be a good alternative, but are they under $500
yet?  The $500 price point is based on the price of a rather
interesting piece of gear from Logitech that will do the job and even
allow direct access to one's own media library, but of course it's
hopelessly inaccessible by a totally blind person.  The Media Center
PC, however, could be made accessible simply by installing a
screenreader on it, even if it's Narrator or one of the free ones out
there--we're not doing rocket science projects on it, we're just
picking music and playing it, so it won't matter how good the
screenreader is or isn't.  Like I said, even Narrator'll do for this
purpose!  And for your five portraits of Mr. Franklin, you get a real
computer to boot!

Has anybody had any experience with any of these streaming products
like the Logitech one?  Or is it your considered opinion to go the PC
or cheap Mac route?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Streaming Audio to a Non-Networked Device

2009-05-06 Thread Constantine
Why not get a netbook? You could just plug a cable from that into your audio 
center.
Netbooks cost anywhere from 300 to 400 dollars. I highly recommend the asus 
lineup. I might add here that if you need to do simple line in recording, 
the microphone jack works good with that, surprisingly.
I personally own the asus 900 ha, but its getting a bit old;if your looking 
for battery life (I'm guessing your not, but anyway) there's a new 1000 he 
out there that has a wapping 9.5 hours battery life, comes with wireless and 
bluetooth and costs 330 bucks.


hth



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and others
msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com
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Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc
AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, Fujitsu 
100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio
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From: Steve Matzura numb...@speakeasy.net

To: pc-audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 4:22 AM
Subject: Streaming Audio to a Non-Networked Device



I'm always after a better solution to my same old problem of streaming
Internet audio to a non-Internet device, such as my living-room
entertainment center, or my bedside radio.  I'm so disgusted with the
FM transmitter thing because of all the metal studs in my walls, I'm
once again looking at something I can use with my wireless router, put
it anywhere, and plug it up to an audio device as described above.  A
Media Center PC might be a good alternative, but are they under $500
yet?  The $500 price point is based on the price of a rather
interesting piece of gear from Logitech that will do the job and even
allow direct access to one's own media library, but of course it's
hopelessly inaccessible by a totally blind person.  The Media Center
PC, however, could be made accessible simply by installing a
screenreader on it, even if it's Narrator or one of the free ones out
there--we're not doing rocket science projects on it, we're just
picking music and playing it, so it won't matter how good the
screenreader is or isn't.  Like I said, even Narrator'll do for this
purpose!  And for your five portraits of Mr. Franklin, you get a real
computer to boot!

Has anybody had any experience with any of these streaming products
like the Logitech one?  Or is it your considered opinion to go the PC
or cheap Mac route?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Streaming Audio to a Non-Networked Device

2009-05-06 Thread Michael Schwandt

Hi,
I did a very simular thing.  Instead of getting a netbook though, I 
purchased a Asus Eee Box.  It's simular to the Eee P C , but it's a very 
compact desktop.  I have it hooked to my stereo and it has both wireless 
N and gigibit lan.  The onboard sound is great for speech.  I use a 
creative xmod for music, and it seems to do the job quite well.  I leave 
it on 24/7 , it only uses a very little amount of power compared to my 
full sized p c's.

hth
Mike,
kq6...@gmail.com


Constantine wrote:
Why not get a netbook? You could just plug a cable from that into your 
audio center.
Netbooks cost anywhere from 300 to 400 dollars. I highly recommend the 
asus lineup. I might add here that if you need to do simple line in 
recording, the microphone jack works good with that, surprisingly.
I personally own the asus 900 ha, but its getting a bit old;if your 
looking for battery life (I'm guessing your not, but anyway) there's a 
new 1000 he out there that has a wapping 9.5 hours battery life, comes 
with wireless and bluetooth and costs 330 bucks.


hth



contact details:

email: tcwoo...@shaw.ca

and others
msn: the_conman...@hotmail.com
skype: the_conman283

system details:
Hp pavillion dv5220CA notebook pc
AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-37 2.0 GHZ, 1024 mb DDR ram, 
Fujitsu 100 gb 4500 RPM Hard Drive, connecsant AC-link audio
- Original Message - From: Steve Matzura 
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To: pc-audio pc-audio@pc-audio.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 4:22 AM
Subject: Streaming Audio to a Non-Networked Device



I'm always after a better solution to my same old problem of streaming
Internet audio to a non-Internet device, such as my living-room
entertainment center, or my bedside radio.  I'm so disgusted with the
FM transmitter thing because of all the metal studs in my walls, I'm
once again looking at something I can use with my wireless router, put
it anywhere, and plug it up to an audio device as described above.  A
Media Center PC might be a good alternative, but are they under $500
yet?  The $500 price point is based on the price of a rather
interesting piece of gear from Logitech that will do the job and even
allow direct access to one's own media library, but of course it's
hopelessly inaccessible by a totally blind person.  The Media Center
PC, however, could be made accessible simply by installing a
screenreader on it, even if it's Narrator or one of the free ones out
there--we're not doing rocket science projects on it, we're just
picking music and playing it, so it won't matter how good the
screenreader is or isn't.  Like I said, even Narrator'll do for this
purpose!  And for your five portraits of Mr. Franklin, you get a real
computer to boot!

Has anybody had any experience with any of these streaming products
like the Logitech one?  Or is it your considered opinion to go the PC
or cheap Mac route?

Thanks in advance.

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