RE: inquiring about Rhapsody

2004-04-18 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
It is inaccessible3 and all my letters to them went unanswwered.

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Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 8:31 AM
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Subject: inquiring about Rhapsody


Hello listers,
I apologize if this has been previously covered or is off topic but was not
sure where else to post the question.

The subject line says it--I'd appreciate comments on anyone's experience
with Rhapsody which I was considering trying.  I want to find out as much as
possible before downloading the trial version.  Does it allow for files to
be streamed via Winamp or one of the other players or does it require an
embedded player for this?  Are all links and functions accessible with JAWS?
Is it free of ads and spyware or will i be bothered with a lot of other
garbage if I install it?  I assume there is a monthly cost for using the
service and then an additional fee for downloads, is this correct?
Finally, is the trial version fully functional and what are the actual costs
per download or use?  Sorry for all the questions, but I found the website
rather vague on a lot of these points.  I may think of other things I'd want
to know but these are my biggest concerns at the moment.  Please feel free
to write me on or off list with your experiences.

Susan




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Re: inquiring about Rhapsody

2004-04-18 Thread Susan Wojtecki
Marlaina,
Sorry you had that experience, but many thanks for the heads up, smile, you
saved me tons of aggravation for what might have been an impulsive decision,
lol, I knew someone would tell me if I asked.

Susan




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Re: inquiring about Rhapsody

2004-04-18 Thread Gary Wood
Hi Marlaina.  This doesn't indeed seem like a fair way for them to do
business.
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From: "Marlaina Lieberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 1:15 PM
Subject: RE: inquiring about Rhapsody


> It is inaccessible3 and all my letters to them went unanswwered.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Susan Wojtecki
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 8:31 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: inquiring about Rhapsody
>
>
> Hello listers,
> I apologize if this has been previously covered or is off topic but was
not
> sure where else to post the question.
>
> The subject line says it--I'd appreciate comments on anyone's experience
> with Rhapsody which I was considering trying.  I want to find out as much
as
> possible before downloading the trial version.  Does it allow for files to
> be streamed via Winamp or one of the other players or does it require an
> embedded player for this?  Are all links and functions accessible with
JAWS?
> Is it free of ads and spyware or will i be bothered with a lot of other
> garbage if I install it?  I assume there is a monthly cost for using the
> service and then an additional fee for downloads, is this correct?
> Finally, is the trial version fully functional and what are the actual
costs
> per download or use?  Sorry for all the questions, but I found the website
> rather vague on a lot of these points.  I may think of other things I'd
want
> to know but these are my biggest concerns at the moment.  Please feel free
> to write me on or off list with your experiences.
>
> Susan
>
>
>
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Re: inquiring about Rhapsody

2004-04-18 Thread Paul Henrichsen
Hi. I found it totally unaccessible with window-eyes. I don't believe that 
jfw users had any better luck, but was a year ago or so.


Hello listers,
I apologize if this has been previously covered or is off topic but was not
sure where else to post the question.
The subject line says it--I'd appreciate comments on anyone's experience
with Rhapsody which I was considering trying.  I want to find out as much as
possible before downloading the trial version.  Does it allow for files to
be streamed via Winamp or one of the other players or does it require an
embedded player for this?  Are all links and functions accessible with JAWS?
Is it free of ads and spyware or will i be bothered with a lot of other
garbage if I install it?  I assume there is a monthly cost for using the
service and then an additional fee for downloads, is this correct?
Finally, is the trial version fully functional and what are the actual costs
per download or use?  Sorry for all the questions, but I found the website
rather vague on a lot of these points.  I may think of other things I'd want
to know but these are my biggest concerns at the moment.  Please feel free
to write me on or off list with your experiences.
Susan



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Re: inquiring about Rhapsody

2004-04-18 Thread Stuart Russell
There are definitely some problems with Rhapsody.  The initial screen
presents you with a selection of graphics which are all unlabeled. Finding
the correct one can be challenging.  For example, Graphic 800 brings up
Rhapsody radio stations.  Once you get past the initial screen much of the
content is accessible.  Rhapsody is a large library of music which can be
searched & the quality is equal to that of a cd.  In order to make the
service accessible,  the player graphics need to be labeled.  Rather than
giving up on Rhapsody, I suggest that members of this list subscribe & then
start making phone calls to Real Networks customer service.
If 50 subscribers made 2 phone calls each week, the marketing department
would certainly take notice.
You may subscribe to Rhapsody at the following address.
http://www.listen.com



- Original Message - 
From: "Susan Wojtecki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 8:30 AM
Subject: inquiring about Rhapsody


> Hello listers,
> I apologize if this has been previously covered or is off topic but was
not
> sure where else to post the question.
>
> The subject line says it--I'd appreciate comments on anyone's experience
> with Rhapsody which I was considering trying.  I want to find out as much
as
> possible before downloading the trial version.  Does it allow for files to
> be streamed via Winamp or one of the other players or does it require an
> embedded player for this?  Are all links and functions accessible with
JAWS?
> Is it free of ads and spyware or will i be bothered with a lot of other
> garbage if I install it?  I assume there is a monthly cost for using the
> service and then an additional fee for downloads, is this correct?
> Finally, is the trial version fully functional and what are the actual
costs
> per download or use?  Sorry for all the questions, but I found the website
> rather vague on a lot of these points.  I may think of other things I'd
want
> to know but these are my biggest concerns at the moment.  Please feel free
> to write me on or off list with your experiences.
>
> Susan
>
>
>
>
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Re: inquiring about Rhapsody

2004-04-18 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
As I said, I did this and nothing was answered.  I think it would be great
if we all bombarded them, but to pay to subscribe to something that is not
accessible isn't my cup of tea.

Marlaina Lieberg
- Original Message - 
From: "Stuart Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: inquiring about Rhapsody


> There are definitely some problems with Rhapsody.  The initial screen
> presents you with a selection of graphics which are all unlabeled. Finding
> the correct one can be challenging.  For example, Graphic 800 brings up
> Rhapsody radio stations.  Once you get past the initial screen much of the
> content is accessible.  Rhapsody is a large library of music which can be
> searched & the quality is equal to that of a cd.  In order to make the
> service accessible,  the player graphics need to be labeled.  Rather than
> giving up on Rhapsody, I suggest that members of this list subscribe &
then
> start making phone calls to Real Networks customer service.
> If 50 subscribers made 2 phone calls each week, the marketing department
> would certainly take notice.
> You may subscribe to Rhapsody at the following address.
> http://www.listen.com
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Susan Wojtecki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 8:30 AM
> Subject: inquiring about Rhapsody
>
>
> > Hello listers,
> > I apologize if this has been previously covered or is off topic but was
> not
> > sure where else to post the question.
> >
> > The subject line says it--I'd appreciate comments on anyone's experience
> > with Rhapsody which I was considering trying.  I want to find out as
much
> as
> > possible before downloading the trial version.  Does it allow for files
to
> > be streamed via Winamp or one of the other players or does it require an
> > embedded player for this?  Are all links and functions accessible with
> JAWS?
> > Is it free of ads and spyware or will i be bothered with a lot of other
> > garbage if I install it?  I assume there is a monthly cost for using the
> > service and then an additional fee for downloads, is this correct?
> > Finally, is the trial version fully functional and what are the actual
> costs
> > per download or use?  Sorry for all the questions, but I found the
website
> > rather vague on a lot of these points.  I may think of other things I'd
> want
> > to know but these are my biggest concerns at the moment.  Please feel
free
> > to write me on or off list with your experiences.
> >
> > Susan
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: inquiring about Rhapsody

2004-04-18 Thread Gary Wood
It sounds like a problem we had with AOL in the beginning, before that
program became more accessible.
- Original Message - 
From: "Stuart Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: inquiring about Rhapsody


> There are definitely some problems with Rhapsody.  The initial screen
> presents you with a selection of graphics which are all unlabeled. Finding
> the correct one can be challenging.  For example, Graphic 800 brings up
> Rhapsody radio stations.  Once you get past the initial screen much of the
> content is accessible.  Rhapsody is a large library of music which can be
> searched & the quality is equal to that of a cd.  In order to make the
> service accessible,  the player graphics need to be labeled.  Rather than
> giving up on Rhapsody, I suggest that members of this list subscribe &
then
> start making phone calls to Real Networks customer service.
> If 50 subscribers made 2 phone calls each week, the marketing department
> would certainly take notice.
> You may subscribe to Rhapsody at the following address.
> http://www.listen.com
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Susan Wojtecki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 8:30 AM
> Subject: inquiring about Rhapsody
>
>
> > Hello listers,
> > I apologize if this has been previously covered or is off topic but was
> not
> > sure where else to post the question.
> >
> > The subject line says it--I'd appreciate comments on anyone's experience
> > with Rhapsody which I was considering trying.  I want to find out as
much
> as
> > possible before downloading the trial version.  Does it allow for files
to
> > be streamed via Winamp or one of the other players or does it require an
> > embedded player for this?  Are all links and functions accessible with
> JAWS?
> > Is it free of ads and spyware or will i be bothered with a lot of other
> > garbage if I install it?  I assume there is a monthly cost for using the
> > service and then an additional fee for downloads, is this correct?
> > Finally, is the trial version fully functional and what are the actual
> costs
> > per download or use?  Sorry for all the questions, but I found the
website
> > rather vague on a lot of these points.  I may think of other things I'd
> want
> > to know but these are my biggest concerns at the moment.  Please feel
free
> > to write me on or off list with your experiences.
> >
> > Susan
> >
> >
> >
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Re: inquiring about Rhapsody

2004-04-18 Thread Stuart Russell
Let me point out that once you get past the opening screen, you are able
to search & select artists & albums.  That portion of the service is like
any standard web page.  What we need is some redesign of the player.


- Original Message - 
From: "Marlaina Lieberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 9:17 PM
Subject: Re: inquiring about Rhapsody


> As I said, I did this and nothing was answered.  I think it would be great
> if we all bombarded them, but to pay to subscribe to something that is not
> accessible isn't my cup of tea.
>
> Marlaina Lieberg
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Stuart Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 8:14 PM
> Subject: Re: inquiring about Rhapsody
>
>
> > There are definitely some problems with Rhapsody.  The initial
screen
> > presents you with a selection of graphics which are all unlabeled.
Finding
> > the correct one can be challenging.  For example, Graphic 800 brings up
> > Rhapsody radio stations.  Once you get past the initial screen much of
the
> > content is accessible.  Rhapsody is a large library of music which can
be
> > searched & the quality is equal to that of a cd.  In order to make the
> > service accessible,  the player graphics need to be labeled.  Rather
than
> > giving up on Rhapsody, I suggest that members of this list subscribe &
> then
> > start making phone calls to Real Networks customer service.
> > If 50 subscribers made 2 phone calls each week, the marketing department
> > would certainly take notice.
> > You may subscribe to Rhapsody at the following address.
> > http://www.listen.com
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Susan Wojtecki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 8:30 AM
> > Subject: inquiring about Rhapsody
> >
> >
> > > Hello listers,
> > > I apologize if this has been previously covered or is off topic but
was
> > not
> > > sure where else to post the question.
> > >
> > > The subject line says it--I'd appreciate comments on anyone's
experience
> > > with Rhapsody which I was considering trying.  I want to find out as
> much
> > as
> > > possible before downloading the trial version.  Does it allow for
files
> to
> > > be streamed via Winamp or one of the other players or does it require
an
> > > embedded player for this?  Are all links and functions accessible with
> > JAWS?
> > > Is it free of ads and spyware or will i be bothered with a lot of
other
> > > garbage if I install it?  I assume there is a monthly cost for using
the
> > > service and then an additional fee for downloads, is this correct?
> > > Finally, is the trial version fully functional and what are the actual
> > costs
> > > per download or use?  Sorry for all the questions, but I found the
> website
> > > rather vague on a lot of these points.  I may think of other things
I'd
> > want
> > > to know but these are my biggest concerns at the moment.  Please feel
> free
> > > to write me on or off list with your experiences.
> > >
> > > Susan
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: inquiring about Rhapsody

2004-04-19 Thread Tim Grady
What do you mean?  I've been using it for about a year or so.  No one ever
told me it was inaccessible.
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To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: inquiring about Rhapsody


> Hi. I found it totally unaccessible with window-eyes. I don't believe that
> jfw users had any better luck, but was a year ago or so.
>
>
> >Hello listers,
> >I apologize if this has been previously covered or is off topic but was
not
> >sure where else to post the question.
> >
> >The subject line says it--I'd appreciate comments on anyone's experience
> >with Rhapsody which I was considering trying.  I want to find out as much
as
> >possible before downloading the trial version.  Does it allow for files
to
> >be streamed via Winamp or one of the other players or does it require an
> >embedded player for this?  Are all links and functions accessible with
JAWS?
> >Is it free of ads and spyware or will i be bothered with a lot of other
> >garbage if I install it?  I assume there is a monthly cost for using the
> >service and then an additional fee for downloads, is this correct?
> >Finally, is the trial version fully functional and what are the actual
costs
> >per download or use?  Sorry for all the questions, but I found the
website
> >rather vague on a lot of these points.  I may think of other things I'd
want
> >to know but these are my biggest concerns at the moment.  Please feel
free
> >to write me on or off list with your experiences.
> >
> >Susan
> >
> >
> >
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Re: inquiring about Rhapsody

2004-04-19 Thread Tim Grady
I wish the graphics were labeled but they may not even understand the
problem as a sighted person can look at the screen and see right away what
to do.  I think blind people need to remember this when they write or call.
They need to spend a little more time than they do explaining what software
vendors can do to address the problems of blind people and not just shouting
that a software package is inaccessible.  As to inaccessibility, all one
needs to do is have someone with some sight sit down with them and label
graphics.  Just in case you haven't seen it, the graphics change a little
depending on whether you're in playlist or cd burning mode.
- Original Message - 
From: "Stuart Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: inquiring about Rhapsody


> There are definitely some problems with Rhapsody.  The initial screen
> presents you with a selection of graphics which are all unlabeled. Finding
> the correct one can be challenging.  For example, Graphic 800 brings up
> Rhapsody radio stations.  Once you get past the initial screen much of the
> content is accessible.  Rhapsody is a large library of music which can be
> searched & the quality is equal to that of a cd.  In order to make the
> service accessible,  the player graphics need to be labeled.  Rather than
> giving up on Rhapsody, I suggest that members of this list subscribe &
then
> start making phone calls to Real Networks customer service.
> If 50 subscribers made 2 phone calls each week, the marketing department
> would certainly take notice.
> You may subscribe to Rhapsody at the following address.
> http://www.listen.com
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Susan Wojtecki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 8:30 AM
> Subject: inquiring about Rhapsody
>
>
> > Hello listers,
> > I apologize if this has been previously covered or is off topic but was
> not
> > sure where else to post the question.
> >
> > The subject line says it--I'd appreciate comments on anyone's experience
> > with Rhapsody which I was considering trying.  I want to find out as
much
> as
> > possible before downloading the trial version.  Does it allow for files
to
> > be streamed via Winamp or one of the other players or does it require an
> > embedded player for this?  Are all links and functions accessible with
> JAWS?
> > Is it free of ads and spyware or will i be bothered with a lot of other
> > garbage if I install it?  I assume there is a monthly cost for using the
> > service and then an additional fee for downloads, is this correct?
> > Finally, is the trial version fully functional and what are the actual
> costs
> > per download or use?  Sorry for all the questions, but I found the
website
> > rather vague on a lot of these points.  I may think of other things I'd
> want
> > to know but these are my biggest concerns at the moment.  Please feel
free
> > to write me on or off list with your experiences.
> >
> > Susan
> >
> >
> >
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Re: inquiring about Rhapsody

2004-04-19 Thread Tim Grady
> The subject line says it--I'd appreciate comments on anyone's experience
> with Rhapsody which I was considering trying.  I want to find out as much
as
> possible before downloading the trial version.  Does it allow for files to
> be streamed via Winamp or one of the other players or does it require an
> embedded player for this?
The software you would download to access the Rhapsody service is called the
Rhapsody player.
Are all links and functions accessible with JAWS?
Not out of the box, but it is very easy to make it that.  Like someone said
in a previous message, there is only one screen to wory about, and most
options can be accessed by hotkeys.
> Is it free of ads and spyware or will i be bothered with a lot of other
> garbage if I install it?
I have never seen any, but now-a-days you never know.  Best to run a spyware
cleaning utility regularly.
I assume there is a monthly cost for using the
> service and then an additional fee for downloads, is this correct?
There is a monthly fee, but I think it is a little higher than $9.95 a month
which is what you would pay if you subscribed through Real networks.
Rhapsody isn't a music download service.  What it is is a service that lets
you pick from a catalog of music or spoken word titles songs you would like
to play on your computer.  You can, however burn CDs at $.79 per track.
> Finally, is the trial version fully functional and what are the actual
costs
> per download or use?
Oh, yea, you can play tracks as many times as you want.


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RE: inquiring about Rhapsody

2004-04-19 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Interesting.  What version are you running?  I'd love to be wrong on
this one; I could not get past the initial screen with either jfw or win
eyes, and I'm not a novice user so perhaps they have had a version
change?

Marlaina Lieberg

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Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 5:34 AM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: inquiring about Rhapsody


What do you mean?  I've been using it for about a year or so.  No one
ever told me it was inaccessible.
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Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: inquiring about Rhapsody


> Hi. I found it totally unaccessible with window-eyes. I don't believe 
> that jfw users had any better luck, but was a year ago or so.
>
>
> >Hello listers,
> >I apologize if this has been previously covered or is off topic but 
> >was
not
> >sure where else to post the question.
> >
> >The subject line says it--I'd appreciate comments on anyone's 
> >experience with Rhapsody which I was considering trying.  I want to 
> >find out as much
as
> >possible before downloading the trial version.  Does it allow for 
> >files
to
> >be streamed via Winamp or one of the other players or does it require

> >an embedded player for this?  Are all links and functions accessible 
> >with
JAWS?
> >Is it free of ads and spyware or will i be bothered with a lot of 
> >other garbage if I install it?  I assume there is a monthly cost for 
> >using the service and then an additional fee for downloads, is this 
> >correct? Finally, is the trial version fully functional and what are 
> >the actual
costs
> >per download or use?  Sorry for all the questions, but I found the
website
> >rather vague on a lot of these points.  I may think of other things 
> >I'd
want
> >to know but these are my biggest concerns at the moment.  Please feel
free
> >to write me on or off list with your experiences.
> >
> >Susan
> >
> >
> >
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RE: inquiring about Rhapsody

2004-04-19 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Tim, I could not agree with you more, and that was precisely what I did
in my five email which went unanswered.  I've worked with many providers
and helped them to achieve basic access, which usually includes labeling
of graphics, but these folks would not respond.  I'm hoping to hear
which version you have that is accessible, cuz I'll go get it
immediately and snack on my words while I listen to the finest audio
I've ever heard on the web.

Marlaina Lieberg

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Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 5:31 AM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: inquiring about Rhapsody


I wish the graphics were labeled but they may not even understand the
problem as a sighted person can look at the screen and see right away
what to do.  I think blind people need to remember this when they write
or call. They need to spend a little more time than they do explaining
what software vendors can do to address the problems of blind people and
not just shouting that a software package is inaccessible.  As to
inaccessibility, all one needs to do is have someone with some sight sit
down with them and label graphics.  Just in case you haven't seen it,
the graphics change a little depending on whether you're in playlist or
cd burning mode.
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From: "Stuart Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: inquiring about Rhapsody


> There are definitely some problems with Rhapsody.  The initial 
> screen presents you with a selection of graphics which are all 
> unlabeled. Finding the correct one can be challenging.  For example, 
> Graphic 800 brings up Rhapsody radio stations.  Once you get past the 
> initial screen much of the content is accessible.  Rhapsody is a large

> library of music which can be searched & the quality is equal to that 
> of a cd.  In order to make the service accessible,  the player 
> graphics need to be labeled.  Rather than giving up on Rhapsody, I 
> suggest that members of this list subscribe &
then
> start making phone calls to Real Networks customer service. If 50 
> subscribers made 2 phone calls each week, the marketing department 
> would certainly take notice. You may subscribe to Rhapsody at the 
> following address. http://www.listen.com
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Susan Wojtecki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 8:30 AM
> Subject: inquiring about Rhapsody
>
>
> > Hello listers,
> > I apologize if this has been previously covered or is off topic but 
> > was
> not
> > sure where else to post the question.
> >
> > The subject line says it--I'd appreciate comments on anyone's 
> > experience with Rhapsody which I was considering trying.  I want to 
> > find out as
much
> as
> > possible before downloading the trial version.  Does it allow for 
> > files
to
> > be streamed via Winamp or one of the other players or does it 
> > require an embedded player for this?  Are all links and functions 
> > accessible with
> JAWS?
> > Is it free of ads and spyware or will i be bothered with a lot of 
> > other garbage if I install it?  I assume there is a monthly cost for

> > using the service and then an additional fee for downloads, is this 
> > correct? Finally, is the trial version fully functional and what are

> > the actual
> costs
> > per download or use?  Sorry for all the questions, but I found the
website
> > rather vague on a lot of these points.  I may think of other things 
> > I'd
> want
> > to know but these are my biggest concerns at the moment.  Please 
> > feel
free
> > to write me on or off list with your experiences.
> >
> > Susan
> >
> >
> >
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RE: inquiring about Rhapsody

2004-04-19 Thread Norma A. Boge
I tried Rhapsody a couple of months ago and found it a little cumbersome 
for me to use, just a personal thing.  I'm not sure what features folks are 
seeking, but I absolutely love the Real Music Store.  It is, IMHO, fully 
accessible and a lot of fun.  I am not sure of all the features, as I use 
it to purchase and download music, but some of you might want to give it a 
look.

HTH
Norma


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RE: inquiring about Rhapsody

2004-04-19 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Norma, which version are you using?  I'd love to have this working for
me!

Marlaina Lieberg
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Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 11:33 AM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: RE: inquiring about Rhapsody


I tried Rhapsody a couple of months ago and found it a little cumbersome

for me to use, just a personal thing.  I'm not sure what features folks
are 
seeking, but I absolutely love the Real Music Store.  It is, IMHO, fully

accessible and a lot of fun.  I am not sure of all the features, as I
use 
it to purchase and download music, but some of you might want to give it
a 
look.

HTH
Norma




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Re: inquiring about Rhapsody

2004-04-19 Thread Tim Grady
Well, what I had was 2.1 build 0.215 but I did a check for update and got
2.1 build 0.227.  It appears to be as accessible, but you have to do a few
tricks.  For instance, if you want to search for a song and you haven't
labeled graphics, and just let me say I'm speaking in Window-eyes terms as I
don't own JFW, you would use your virtual mouse, go to the bottom of the
window, move up by line until something is spoken (by that I mean
non-graphic) and left click on it.  You're then put in a browser window
which you can navigate like normal.  If you find what you want and save the
album or track to your library you will be put back in to the first screen.
The thing about the first window is you initiate everything with the mouse.
Let's say you want to pick something out of your library.  First you would
find your library list with the mouse keys.  Then you would left click on
any artist.  After that you can use your regular arrow keys.  You are in a
tree view like Windows Explorer.  Moving up and down moves through the
artists.  When you're on the artist you want, hit your right arrow twice and
you'll be on the list of albums of the artist you selected.  If you haven't
saved any albums then you'll be on a list of tracks by that artist.  If you
want to add the album or track to the play list, route your mouse to the pc
cursor and do a right click.  There'll be a list of things you can do which
you navigate with the mouse keys.  When you get to what you want, say, play
now, just left click on it.  Your playlist window is below the library
window.  I can only get to it with the mouse keys.  You can tell when you
get to it because you'll hear track, then you'll start hearing track names
instead of artists.  On any track in the playlist just right click and again
there'll be a list of things you can do with the track or the playlist.
Some things to remember, you need to find the CD burning graphic.  The one
to the left or above  it will put you back into playlist mode.  When you're
in playlist mode, anything you play will be added to the playlist, so you
should clear your playlist once in a while.  If you're navigating a list of
albums and hit the right arror twice you'll be in a list of tracks for the
album.  Use the left arrow just like Windows Explorer to close the list.
- Original Message - 
From: "Marlaina Lieberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: inquiring about Rhapsody


> Tim, I could not agree with you more, and that was precisely what I did
> in my five email which went unanswered.  I've worked with many providers
> and helped them to achieve basic access, which usually includes labeling
> of graphics, but these folks would not respond.  I'm hoping to hear
> which version you have that is accessible, cuz I'll go get it
> immediately and snack on my words while I listen to the finest audio
> I've ever heard on the web.
>
> Marlaina Lieberg
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Grady
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 5:31 AM
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: Re: inquiring about Rhapsody
>
>
> I wish the graphics were labeled but they may not even understand the
> problem as a sighted person can look at the screen and see right away
> what to do.  I think blind people need to remember this when they write
> or call. They need to spend a little more time than they do explaining
> what software vendors can do to address the problems of blind people and
> not just shouting that a software package is inaccessible.  As to
> inaccessibility, all one needs to do is have someone with some sight sit
> down with them and label graphics.  Just in case you haven't seen it,
> the graphics change a little depending on whether you're in playlist or
> cd burning mode.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Stuart Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 11:14 PM
> Subject: Re: inquiring about Rhapsody
>
>
> > There are definitely some problems with Rhapsody.  The initial
> > screen presents you with a selection of graphics which are all
> > unlabeled. Finding the correct one can be challenging.  For example,
> > Graphic 800 brings up Rhapsody radio stations.  Once you get past the
> > initial screen much of the content is accessible.  Rhapsody is a large
>
> > library of music which can be searched & the quality is equal to that
> > of a cd.  In order to make the service accessible,  the player
> > graphics need to be labeled.  Rathe

RE: inquiring about Rhapsody

2004-04-19 Thread Marlaina Lieberg
Hi Tim this is great.  I do use Window Eyes but when I tried this, I
used Jaws and only briefly tried it with Win Eyes as a non Win Eyes
user.  Now that I know a lot more about Win Eyes, I'll try it again with
Win eyes.

Thanks!

Marlaina Lieberg

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Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 7:59 PM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: Re: inquiring about Rhapsody


Well, what I had was 2.1 build 0.215 but I did a check for update and
got 2.1 build 0.227.  It appears to be as accessible, but you have to do
a few tricks.  For instance, if you want to search for a song and you
haven't labeled graphics, and just let me say I'm speaking in
Window-eyes terms as I don't own JFW, you would use your virtual mouse,
go to the bottom of the window, move up by line until something is
spoken (by that I mean
non-graphic) and left click on it.  You're then put in a browser window
which you can navigate like normal.  If you find what you want and save
the album or track to your library you will be put back in to the first
screen. The thing about the first window is you initiate everything with
the mouse. Let's say you want to pick something out of your library.
First you would find your library list with the mouse keys.  Then you
would left click on any artist.  After that you can use your regular
arrow keys.  You are in a tree view like Windows Explorer.  Moving up
and down moves through the artists.  When you're on the artist you want,
hit your right arrow twice and you'll be on the list of albums of the
artist you selected.  If you haven't saved any albums then you'll be on
a list of tracks by that artist.  If you want to add the album or track
to the play list, route your mouse to the pc cursor and do a right
click.  There'll be a list of things you can do which you navigate with
the mouse keys.  When you get to what you want, say, play now, just left
click on it.  Your playlist window is below the library window.  I can
only get to it with the mouse keys.  You can tell when you get to it
because you'll hear track, then you'll start hearing track names instead
of artists.  On any track in the playlist just right click and again
there'll be a list of things you can do with the track or the playlist.
Some things to remember, you need to find the CD burning graphic.  The
one to the left or above  it will put you back into playlist mode.  When
you're in playlist mode, anything you play will be added to the
playlist, so you should clear your playlist once in a while.  If you're
navigating a list of albums and hit the right arror twice you'll be in a
list of tracks for the album.  Use the left arrow just like Windows
Explorer to close the list.
- Original Message - 
From: "Marlaina Lieberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:39 PM
Subject: RE: inquiring about Rhapsody


> Tim, I could not agree with you more, and that was precisely what I 
> did in my five email which went unanswered.  I've worked with many 
> providers and helped them to achieve basic access, which usually 
> includes labeling of graphics, but these folks would not respond.  I'm

> hoping to hear which version you have that is accessible, cuz I'll go 
> get it immediately and snack on my words while I listen to the finest 
> audio I've ever heard on the web.
>
> Marlaina Lieberg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Grady
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 5:31 AM
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: Re: inquiring about Rhapsody
>
>
> I wish the graphics were labeled but they may not even understand the 
> problem as a sighted person can look at the screen and see right away 
> what to do.  I think blind people need to remember this when they 
> write or call. They need to spend a little more time than they do 
> explaining what software vendors can do to address the problems of 
> blind people and not just shouting that a software package is 
> inaccessible.  As to inaccessibility, all one needs to do is have 
> someone with some sight sit down with them and label graphics.  Just 
> in case you haven't seen it, the graphics change a little depending on

> whether you're in playlist or cd burning mode.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Stuart Russell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 11:14 PM
> Subject: Re: inquiring about Rhapsody
>
>
> > There are definitely some problems with Rhapsody.  The initial 
> > screen presents you with a selection 

RE: inquiring about Rhapsody

2004-04-19 Thread Norma A. Boge
Hi Marlena,

I'm using the Real Player 10 beta.  You  get to the music store from  the 
view menu.  This uses the Real Player browser, which is pretty accessible.

Good luck,
Norma
At 03:47 PM 4/19/2004, you wrote:
Norma, which version are you using?  I'd love to have this working for
me!
Marlaina Lieberg
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Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 11:33 AM
To: PC audio discussion list.
Subject: RE: inquiring about Rhapsody
I tried Rhapsody a couple of months ago and found it a little cumbersome

for me to use, just a personal thing.  I'm not sure what features folks
are
seeking, but I absolutely love the Real Music Store.  It is, IMHO, fully
accessible and a lot of fun.  I am not sure of all the features, as I
use
it to purchase and download music, but some of you might want to give it
a
look.
HTH
Norma


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Re: inquiring about Rhapsody

2004-04-19 Thread Tim Grady
The only thing about Rhapsody that's different from the music store is you
are streaming music, not downloading it.  If you have a Broadband connection
it is great.
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From: "Norma A. Boge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 12:54 AM
Subject: RE: inquiring about Rhapsody


> Hi Marlena,
>
> I'm using the Real Player 10 beta.  You  get to the music store from  the
> view menu.  This uses the Real Player browser, which is pretty accessible.
>
> Good luck,
> Norma
>
>
> At 03:47 PM 4/19/2004, you wrote:
> >Norma, which version are you using?  I'd love to have this working for
> >me!
> >
> >Marlaina Lieberg
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Norma A. Boge
> >Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 11:33 AM
> >To: PC audio discussion list.
> >Subject: RE: inquiring about Rhapsody
> >
> >
> >I tried Rhapsody a couple of months ago and found it a little cumbersome
> >
> >for me to use, just a personal thing.  I'm not sure what features folks
> >are
> >seeking, but I absolutely love the Real Music Store.  It is, IMHO, fully
> >
> >accessible and a lot of fun.  I am not sure of all the features, as I
> >use
> >it to purchase and download music, but some of you might want to give it
> >a
> >look.
> >
> >HTH
> >Norma
> >
> >
> >
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