Re: Some CDEX questions

2007-09-04 Thread Kevin Lloyd
Hi.

Windows media player has error correction so be sure to set it if you're 
using this program to rip audio CD's.  It will rip much more slowly when 
this is enabled but you will get excellent results.

To set the error correction flag,
go to tools, options and locate the audio tab.  Press enter on the 
properties button for your CD/DVD drives and then check the checkboxes to 
set error correction on.

The CD transport in your computer is key to getting good results.  As 
mentioned, EAC will scan until it finds 2 close matches in extracted WAV 
forms but that doesn't mean that it's perfect as if your CD transport isn't 
great then you'll get some very close imperfect WAV files and it'll have 
just taken you longer to get there.

I've found laptops have the best CD transports as they tend to have a raised 
middle onto which you can press the CD and have it held firmly.  CD 
transports I've seen on desktops have been quite flimsy at times and the 
disc can slide about when spinning.  This is a great way to generate lots of 
jitter, particularly on the latter tracks which are on the outside of the 
disc and so are therefore being rocked around a lot more than the inner 
tracks on a flimsy transport.

Regards.

Kevin
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- Original Message - 
From: "GianniP46" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 5:48 AM
Subject: Re: Some CDEX questions


> Does winamp, windows media, or ITunes have error correction, wave form 
> comparison, or rescanning of tracks?  Or is eac the only program that does 
> this.  Will definitely look in to it.
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Kelly Pierce
>  To: PC Audio Discussion List
>  Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 11:26 PM
>  Subject: Re: Some CDEX questions
>
>
>  Not necessarily.  CDEX doesn't have error correction and wave form
>  comparison, rescanning the same track two dozen times.  EAC can often
>  salvage a scratched disc.  there is much discussion on the Internet
>  comparing the two programs, check it out.
>
>  Kelly
>
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: "GianniP46" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>  Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 9:49 PM
>  Subject: Re: Some CDEX questions
>
>
>  >a lot of my D.J. friends are ripping in either I tunes or windows media
>  >player at about 192 or 256.  If I use CDEX with the insane settings wont
>  >that be just as good if not better?
>  >  - Original Message - 
>  >  From: Kelly Pierce
>  >  To: PC Audio Discussion List
>  >  Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 10:21 PM
>  >  Subject: Re: Some CDEX questions
>  >
>  >
>  >  if you really want the highest quality rips possible, use Exact Audio
>  > copy
>  >  with the Lame extreme preset.  With the current version of Lame,
>  > variable
>  >  bit rates with joint stereo deliver the extra fullness and richness 
> when
>  > it
>  >  is needed.  EAC does offer a preset for 320 CBR, but the developer 
> calls
>  >  this setting insane.
>  >
>  >  EAC, unlike CDEX, scans each track, looking for two exactly identical
>  > wave
>  >  forms or the closest exact match possible.  It repeatedly scans a 
> tract,
>  >  dozens of times if needed, before ripping it.  CDEX does not perform
>  > this
>  >  error checking analysis.
>  >
>  >  If you want the best rips in town, use EAC.  It takes longer to learn,
>  > but
>  >  the rips sound really great.  CDEX is easy to use and I still rip 
> audio
>  >  books with it.  For industrial strength music output, I use EAC.
>  >
>  >  Kelly
>  >
>  >
>  >  - Original Message - 
>  >  From: "GianniP46" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >  To: "PCAudioList" 
>  >  Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 7:46 PM
>  >  Subject: Some CDEX questions
>  >
>  >
>  >  > Hi,
>  >  > I got cdex installed, but I have some questions about the
>  > configuration
>  >  > options.  What is the best quality setting for MP3s?  I want my
>  > bitrates
>  >  > to be 320 at a constant bitrate as I heard that constant bitrates 
> are
>  > the
>  >  > best.  Is that true? Is CBR the best?
>  >  > Is it good to enable jitter correction?
>  >  > Also, What is the best ripping method to use.  I want to create the
>  > best
>  >  > mp3s with the highest quality possible with no artifacts.  I am a 
> D.J.
>  >  > and will be using my mp3s for gigs.  Thanks to all in advance!
>  >  >
>  >  >
> 

Re: Some CDEX questions

2007-09-04 Thread Kelly Pierce
No, the popular commercial programs do not do this, likely because it takes 
a lot longer to produce a higher quality rip than one of average quality. 
While fully accessible, EAC has so many configuration options that it is a 
geek's paradise.

There is a lot of documentation available online in accessible format. The 
program can be operated from the keyboard, and all the menus can be 
accessed with a screen reader.

Kelly


- Original Message - 
From: "GianniP46" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: Some CDEX questions


> Does winamp, windows media, or ITunes have error correction, wave form 
> comparison, or rescanning of tracks?  Or is eac the only program that 
> does this.  Will definitely look in to it.
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Kelly Pierce
>  To: PC Audio Discussion List
>  Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 11:26 PM
>  Subject: Re: Some CDEX questions
>
>
>  Not necessarily.  CDEX doesn't have error correction and wave form
>  comparison, rescanning the same track two dozen times.  EAC can often
>  salvage a scratched disc.  there is much discussion on the Internet
>  comparing the two programs, check it out.
>
>  Kelly
>
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: "GianniP46" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
>  Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 9:49 PM
>  Subject: Re: Some CDEX questions
>
>
>  >a lot of my D.J. friends are ripping in either I tunes or windows media
>  >player at about 192 or 256.  If I use CDEX with the insane settings 
> wont
>  >that be just as good if not better?
>  >  - Original Message - 
>  >  From: Kelly Pierce
>  >  To: PC Audio Discussion List
>  >  Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 10:21 PM
>  >  Subject: Re: Some CDEX questions
>  >
>  >
>  >  if you really want the highest quality rips possible, use Exact Audio
>  > copy
>  >  with the Lame extreme preset.  With the current version of Lame,
>  > variable
>  >  bit rates with joint stereo deliver the extra fullness and richness 
> when
>  > it
>  >  is needed.  EAC does offer a preset for 320 CBR, but the developer 
> calls
>  >  this setting insane.
>  >
>  >  EAC, unlike CDEX, scans each track, looking for two exactly identical
>  > wave
>  >  forms or the closest exact match possible.  It repeatedly scans a 
> tract,
>  >  dozens of times if needed, before ripping it.  CDEX does not perform
>  > this
>  >  error checking analysis.
>  >
>  >  If you want the best rips in town, use EAC.  It takes longer to 
> learn,
>  > but
>  >  the rips sound really great.  CDEX is easy to use and I still rip 
> audio
>  >  books with it.  For industrial strength music output, I use EAC.
>  >
>  >  Kelly
>  >
>  >
>  >  - Original Message - 
>  >  From: "GianniP46" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >  To: "PCAudioList" 
>  >  Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 7:46 PM
>  >  Subject: Some CDEX questions
>  >
>  >
>  >  > Hi,
>  >  > I got cdex installed, but I have some questions about the
>  > configuration
>  >  > options.  What is the best quality setting for MP3s?  I want my
>  > bitrates
>  >  > to be 320 at a constant bitrate as I heard that constant bitrates 
> are
>  > the
>  >  > best.  Is that true? Is CBR the best?
>  >  > Is it good to enable jitter correction?
>  >  > Also, What is the best ripping method to use.  I want to create the
>  > best
>  >  > mp3s with the highest quality possible with no artifacts.  I am a 
> D.J.
>  >  > and will be using my mp3s for gigs.  Thanks to all in advance!
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  > Gian Carlo Pedulla
>  >  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>  >  > LETS! GO! METS!
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Re: Some CDEX questions

2007-09-03 Thread GianniP46
Does winamp, windows media, or ITunes have error correction, wave form 
comparison, or rescanning of tracks?  Or is eac the only program that does 
this.  Will definitely look in to it.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kelly Pierce 
  To: PC Audio Discussion List 
  Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 11:26 PM
  Subject: Re: Some CDEX questions


  Not necessarily.  CDEX doesn't have error correction and wave form 
  comparison, rescanning the same track two dozen times.  EAC can often 
  salvage a scratched disc.  there is much discussion on the Internet 
  comparing the two programs, check it out.

  Kelly

  - Original Message - 
  From: "GianniP46" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
  Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 9:49 PM
  Subject: Re: Some CDEX questions


  >a lot of my D.J. friends are ripping in either I tunes or windows media 
  >player at about 192 or 256.  If I use CDEX with the insane settings wont 
  >that be just as good if not better?
  >  - Original Message - 
  >  From: Kelly Pierce
  >  To: PC Audio Discussion List
  >  Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 10:21 PM
  >  Subject: Re: Some CDEX questions
  >
  >
  >  if you really want the highest quality rips possible, use Exact Audio 
  > copy
  >  with the Lame extreme preset.  With the current version of Lame, 
  > variable
  >  bit rates with joint stereo deliver the extra fullness and richness when 
  > it
  >  is needed.  EAC does offer a preset for 320 CBR, but the developer calls
  >  this setting insane.
  >
  >  EAC, unlike CDEX, scans each track, looking for two exactly identical 
  > wave
  >  forms or the closest exact match possible.  It repeatedly scans a tract,
  >  dozens of times if needed, before ripping it.  CDEX does not perform 
  > this
  >  error checking analysis.
  >
  >  If you want the best rips in town, use EAC.  It takes longer to learn, 
  > but
  >  the rips sound really great.  CDEX is easy to use and I still rip audio
  >  books with it.  For industrial strength music output, I use EAC.
  >
  >  Kelly
  >
  >
  >  - Original Message - 
  >  From: "GianniP46" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  >  To: "PCAudioList" 
  >  Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 7:46 PM
  >  Subject: Some CDEX questions
  >
  >
  >  > Hi,
  >  > I got cdex installed, but I have some questions about the 
  > configuration
  >  > options.  What is the best quality setting for MP3s?  I want my 
  > bitrates
  >  > to be 320 at a constant bitrate as I heard that constant bitrates are 
  > the
  >  > best.  Is that true? Is CBR the best?
  >  > Is it good to enable jitter correction?
  >  > Also, What is the best ripping method to use.  I want to create the 
  > best
  >  > mp3s with the highest quality possible with no artifacts.  I am a D.J.
  >  > and will be using my mp3s for gigs.  Thanks to all in advance!
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > Gian Carlo Pedulla
  >  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >  >
  >  > LETS! GO! METS!
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Re: Some CDEX questions

2007-09-03 Thread Kelly Pierce
Not necessarily.  CDEX doesn't have error correction and wave form 
comparison, rescanning the same track two dozen times.  EAC can often 
salvage a scratched disc.  there is much discussion on the Internet 
comparing the two programs, check it out.

Kelly

- Original Message - 
From: "GianniP46" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" 
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: Some CDEX questions


>a lot of my D.J. friends are ripping in either I tunes or windows media 
>player at about 192 or 256.  If I use CDEX with the insane settings wont 
>that be just as good if not better?
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: Kelly Pierce
>  To: PC Audio Discussion List
>  Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 10:21 PM
>  Subject: Re: Some CDEX questions
>
>
>  if you really want the highest quality rips possible, use Exact Audio 
> copy
>  with the Lame extreme preset.  With the current version of Lame, 
> variable
>  bit rates with joint stereo deliver the extra fullness and richness when 
> it
>  is needed.  EAC does offer a preset for 320 CBR, but the developer calls
>  this setting insane.
>
>  EAC, unlike CDEX, scans each track, looking for two exactly identical 
> wave
>  forms or the closest exact match possible.  It repeatedly scans a tract,
>  dozens of times if needed, before ripping it.  CDEX does not perform 
> this
>  error checking analysis.
>
>  If you want the best rips in town, use EAC.  It takes longer to learn, 
> but
>  the rips sound really great.  CDEX is easy to use and I still rip audio
>  books with it.  For industrial strength music output, I use EAC.
>
>  Kelly
>
>
>  - Original Message - 
>  From: "GianniP46" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: "PCAudioList" 
>  Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 7:46 PM
>  Subject: Some CDEX questions
>
>
>  > Hi,
>  > I got cdex installed, but I have some questions about the 
> configuration
>  > options.  What is the best quality setting for MP3s?  I want my 
> bitrates
>  > to be 320 at a constant bitrate as I heard that constant bitrates are 
> the
>  > best.  Is that true? Is CBR the best?
>  > Is it good to enable jitter correction?
>  > Also, What is the best ripping method to use.  I want to create the 
> best
>  > mp3s with the highest quality possible with no artifacts.  I am a D.J.
>  > and will be using my mp3s for gigs.  Thanks to all in advance!
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Gian Carlo Pedulla
>  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >
>  > LETS! GO! METS!
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Re: Some CDEX questions

2007-09-03 Thread GianniP46
a lot of my D.J. friends are ripping in either I tunes or windows media player 
at about 192 or 256.  If I use CDEX with the insane settings wont that be just 
as good if not better?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kelly Pierce 
  To: PC Audio Discussion List 
  Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 10:21 PM
  Subject: Re: Some CDEX questions


  if you really want the highest quality rips possible, use Exact Audio copy 
  with the Lame extreme preset.  With the current version of Lame, variable 
  bit rates with joint stereo deliver the extra fullness and richness when it 
  is needed.  EAC does offer a preset for 320 CBR, but the developer calls 
  this setting insane.

  EAC, unlike CDEX, scans each track, looking for two exactly identical wave 
  forms or the closest exact match possible.  It repeatedly scans a tract, 
  dozens of times if needed, before ripping it.  CDEX does not perform this 
  error checking analysis.

  If you want the best rips in town, use EAC.  It takes longer to learn, but 
  the rips sound really great.  CDEX is easy to use and I still rip audio 
  books with it.  For industrial strength music output, I use EAC.

  Kelly


  - Original Message - 
  From: "GianniP46" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: "PCAudioList" 
  Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 7:46 PM
  Subject: Some CDEX questions


  > Hi,
  > I got cdex installed, but I have some questions about the configuration 
  > options.  What is the best quality setting for MP3s?  I want my bitrates 
  > to be 320 at a constant bitrate as I heard that constant bitrates are the 
  > best.  Is that true? Is CBR the best?
  > Is it good to enable jitter correction?
  > Also, What is the best ripping method to use.  I want to create the best 
  > mp3s with the highest quality possible with no artifacts.  I am a D.J. 
  > and will be using my mp3s for gigs.  Thanks to all in advance!
  >
  >
  >
  > Gian Carlo Pedulla
  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >
  > LETS! GO! METS!
  >
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Re: Some CDEX questions

2007-09-03 Thread GianniP46
where can I get it?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kelly Pierce 
  To: PC Audio Discussion List 
  Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 10:21 PM
  Subject: Re: Some CDEX questions


  if you really want the highest quality rips possible, use Exact Audio copy 
  with the Lame extreme preset.  With the current version of Lame, variable 
  bit rates with joint stereo deliver the extra fullness and richness when it 
  is needed.  EAC does offer a preset for 320 CBR, but the developer calls 
  this setting insane.

  EAC, unlike CDEX, scans each track, looking for two exactly identical wave 
  forms or the closest exact match possible.  It repeatedly scans a tract, 
  dozens of times if needed, before ripping it.  CDEX does not perform this 
  error checking analysis.

  If you want the best rips in town, use EAC.  It takes longer to learn, but 
  the rips sound really great.  CDEX is easy to use and I still rip audio 
  books with it.  For industrial strength music output, I use EAC.

  Kelly


  - Original Message - 
  From: "GianniP46" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: "PCAudioList" 
  Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 7:46 PM
  Subject: Some CDEX questions


  > Hi,
  > I got cdex installed, but I have some questions about the configuration 
  > options.  What is the best quality setting for MP3s?  I want my bitrates 
  > to be 320 at a constant bitrate as I heard that constant bitrates are the 
  > best.  Is that true? Is CBR the best?
  > Is it good to enable jitter correction?
  > Also, What is the best ripping method to use.  I want to create the best 
  > mp3s with the highest quality possible with no artifacts.  I am a D.J. 
  > and will be using my mp3s for gigs.  Thanks to all in advance!
  >
  >
  >
  > Gian Carlo Pedulla
  > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >
  > LETS! GO! METS!
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Re: Some CDEX questions

2007-09-03 Thread Kelly Pierce
if you really want the highest quality rips possible, use Exact Audio copy 
with the Lame extreme preset.  With the current version of Lame, variable 
bit rates with joint stereo deliver the extra fullness and richness when it 
is needed.  EAC does offer a preset for 320 CBR, but the developer calls 
this setting insane.

EAC, unlike CDEX, scans each track, looking for two exactly identical wave 
forms or the closest exact match possible.  It repeatedly scans a tract, 
dozens of times if needed, before ripping it.  CDEX does not perform this 
error checking analysis.

If you want the best rips in town, use EAC.  It takes longer to learn, but 
the rips sound really great.  CDEX is easy to use and I still rip audio 
books with it.  For industrial strength music output, I use EAC.

Kelly


- Original Message - 
From: "GianniP46" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PCAudioList" 
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 7:46 PM
Subject: Some CDEX questions


> Hi,
> I got cdex installed, but I have some questions about the configuration 
> options.  What is the best quality setting for MP3s?  I want my bitrates 
> to be 320 at a constant bitrate as I heard that constant bitrates are the 
> best.  Is that true? Is CBR the best?
> Is it good to enable jitter correction?
> Also, What is the best ripping method to use.  I want to create the best 
> mp3s with the highest quality possible with no artifacts.  I am a D.J. 
> and will be using my mp3s for gigs.  Thanks to all in advance!
>
>
>
> Gian Carlo Pedulla
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> LETS! GO! METS!
>
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RE: Some CDEX questions

2007-09-03 Thread albert griffith
I 'm new at this but I  believe Variable bit rate would serve you better.   

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On Behalf Of GianniP46
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 5:47 PM
To: PCAudioList
Subject: Some CDEX questions

Hi,
I got cdex installed, but I have some questions about the configuration
options.  What is the best quality setting for MP3s?  I want my bitrates to
be 320 at a constant bitrate as I heard that constant bitrates are the best.
Is that true? Is CBR the best?
Is it good to enable jitter correction?
Also, What is the best ripping method to use.  I want to create the best
mp3s with the highest quality possible with no artifacts.  I am a D.J. and
will be using my mp3s for gigs.  Thanks to all in advance!



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