RE: Wanting to hear only one part?
Hello Vicky, unfortunately there is no way to hear only one part of a song, as it has already been mixed down and mastered to 2 tracks. The only way you can try is to try cancelling the vocals, but that won't give you just the part you want. It may give you that part with some drums or something, but it does depend on how the song was originally recorded. This is where the old motto of sound work, rubbish in, rubbish out, comes in. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Victoria Vaughan Sent: 05 July 2011 22:41 To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Wanting to hear only one part? Hi folks, When I'm trying to pick out a song to play it on guitar or harp, I would love to have the ability to hear just one of the instruments in the recording on a CD. Do you know if any of the audio packages such as Gold Wave or Total Recorder can do this? Many thanks for any thoughts on the matter! Vicky To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Wanting to hear only one part?
Thank you! I'll look in to that. Vicky - Original Message - From: Dave Bahr dcba...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:11 PM Subject: Re: Wanting to hear only one part? you need to have the track as a midi file if you can find one. Then you'd have to have a sequencer that recognizes the interface and parts of the song that are different tracks or instruments if any. www.dancingdots.com is where the software that will help you best. Not cheap but powerful. It might be a bit much, I'm not sure what you're looking for from a track specifically. Dave c. bahr On 7/5/2011 6:36 PM, Victoria Vaughan wrote: How would I go about getting a midi track of a particular song? That sounds interesting? Many thanks! Vicky - Original Message - From: Dave Bahr dcba...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Wanting to hear only one part? Vicky. There is a thing in goldwave that will attempt to reduce vocals, but it's hit or miss. It all depends on what sort of music it is. If it was recorded, lets just say ballpark, 1964 or so, then they were putting two track on one cannel and two on another with the vocal, like the beatles early stuff. However, the issue really comes in when you have a stereo recording where the channels match. Now what you could do is, and please correct me gang if I've got this a bit bassackward, but couldn't you theoretically invert the phase of the channels? I know in the stereo section of goldwave's effects menu there is a channel mixer. But as far as specifically isolating, say, the flute part from the flute and harp concerto by mozart, that's not too easy if the recording is mixed in both channels. If you happened to have some old recording in the 4 track format described above, then maybe you could digitize that and invert the phase of the channels. So the really long short answer is, kinda sorta not really. It would depend if you wanted complete and utter isolation of an instrumental track. But wait, there's more! If you've stuck it out with me thus far, then I just thought of another idea. Could you get a midi track of the song you want and then put it into a sequencer like sonar with the caketalking scripts? Then yes you truly could hear the flute part to the flute and harp concerto. It wouldn't be Galway or whomever playing it, but it would be a start to learning the material. So, those are my thoughts for whatever they are worth. If that helped at all, then cool. If it just kind of put you to sleep, then, well everyone needs some way to sleep. And if you stopped reading awhile back then, you're not reading this anyway. If you like i could look at the track in question and see what might be able to be done with it, feel free to email me off list. Dave c. bahr On 7/5/2011 5:40 PM, Victoria Vaughan wrote: Hi folks, When I'm trying to pick out a song to play it on guitar or harp, I would love to have the ability to hear just one of the instruments in the recording on a CD. Do you know if any of the audio packages such as Gold Wave or Total Recorder can do this? Many thanks for any thoughts on the matter! Vicky To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17860) http://www.pctools.com/ === To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17860) http://www.pctools.com/ === To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Wanting to hear only one part?
Ah Oh well. Thanks Sam for answering any way. Best to know the truth, even when it's not what I wanted. Vicky - Original Message - From: Samuel Wilkins clevercl...@gwilkins.co.uk To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 3:42 AM Subject: RE: Wanting to hear only one part? Hello Vicky, unfortunately there is no way to hear only one part of a song, as it has already been mixed down and mastered to 2 tracks. The only way you can try is to try cancelling the vocals, but that won't give you just the part you want. It may give you that part with some drums or something, but it does depend on how the song was originally recorded. This is where the old motto of sound work, rubbish in, rubbish out, comes in. -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Victoria Vaughan Sent: 05 July 2011 22:41 To: PC audio discussion list. Subject: Wanting to hear only one part? Hi folks, When I'm trying to pick out a song to play it on guitar or harp, I would love to have the ability to hear just one of the instruments in the recording on a CD. Do you know if any of the audio packages such as Gold Wave or Total Recorder can do this? Many thanks for any thoughts on the matter! Vicky To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17870) http://www.pctools.com/ === To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Wanting to hear only one part?
For midi sequencer there is a great free accessible sequencer called qws. I don't have a link handy for you at this time but I can get it later. Anyway this sequencer allows you to play tracks by themselves. For most midi files anyway. hth bb Brett Boyer Audio Production and voice over http://brettboyer.voices.com - Original Message - From: Victoria Vaughan vrvaug...@mailzone.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 9:31 AM Subject: Re: Wanting to hear only one part? Thank you! I'll look in to that. Vicky - Original Message - From: Dave Bahr dcba...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:11 PM Subject: Re: Wanting to hear only one part? you need to have the track as a midi file if you can find one. Then you'd have to have a sequencer that recognizes the interface and parts of the song that are different tracks or instruments if any. www.dancingdots.com is where the software that will help you best. Not cheap but powerful. It might be a bit much, I'm not sure what you're looking for from a track specifically. Dave c. bahr On 7/5/2011 6:36 PM, Victoria Vaughan wrote: How would I go about getting a midi track of a particular song? That sounds interesting? Many thanks! Vicky - Original Message - From: Dave Bahr dcba...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Wanting to hear only one part? Vicky. There is a thing in goldwave that will attempt to reduce vocals, but it's hit or miss. It all depends on what sort of music it is. If it was recorded, lets just say ballpark, 1964 or so, then they were putting two track on one cannel and two on another with the vocal, like the beatles early stuff. However, the issue really comes in when you have a stereo recording where the channels match. Now what you could do is, and please correct me gang if I've got this a bit bassackward, but couldn't you theoretically invert the phase of the channels? I know in the stereo section of goldwave's effects menu there is a channel mixer. But as far as specifically isolating, say, the flute part from the flute and harp concerto by mozart, that's not too easy if the recording is mixed in both channels. If you happened to have some old recording in the 4 track format described above, then maybe you could digitize that and invert the phase of the channels. So the really long short answer is, kinda sorta not really. It would depend if you wanted complete and utter isolation of an instrumental track. But wait, there's more! If you've stuck it out with me thus far, then I just thought of another idea. Could you get a midi track of the song you want and then put it into a sequencer like sonar with the caketalking scripts? Then yes you truly could hear the flute part to the flute and harp concerto. It wouldn't be Galway or whomever playing it, but it would be a start to learning the material. So, those are my thoughts for whatever they are worth. If that helped at all, then cool. If it just kind of put you to sleep, then, well everyone needs some way to sleep. And if you stopped reading awhile back then, you're not reading this anyway. If you like i could look at the track in question and see what might be able to be done with it, feel free to email me off list. Dave c. bahr On 7/5/2011 5:40 PM, Victoria Vaughan wrote: Hi folks, When I'm trying to pick out a song to play it on guitar or harp, I would love to have the ability to hear just one of the instruments in the recording on a CD. Do you know if any of the audio packages such as Gold Wave or Total Recorder can do this? Many thanks for any thoughts on the matter! Vicky To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17860) http://www.pctools.com/ === To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17860) http://www.pctools.com/ === To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Wanting to hear only one part?
Thanks Bret! That would be great! I'll Google it and see if I can find it. Thanks again!Vicky - Original Message - From: Brett Boyer bboyer...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 4:27 PM Subject: Re: Wanting to hear only one part? For midi sequencer there is a great free accessible sequencer called qws. I don't have a link handy for you at this time but I can get it later. Anyway this sequencer allows you to play tracks by themselves. For most midi files anyway. hth bb Brett Boyer Audio Production and voice over http://brettboyer.voices.com - Original Message - From: Victoria Vaughan vrvaug...@mailzone.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 9:31 AM Subject: Re: Wanting to hear only one part? Thank you! I'll look in to that. Vicky - Original Message - From: Dave Bahr dcba...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 7:11 PM Subject: Re: Wanting to hear only one part? you need to have the track as a midi file if you can find one. Then you'd have to have a sequencer that recognizes the interface and parts of the song that are different tracks or instruments if any. www.dancingdots.com is where the software that will help you best. Not cheap but powerful. It might be a bit much, I'm not sure what you're looking for from a track specifically. Dave c. bahr On 7/5/2011 6:36 PM, Victoria Vaughan wrote: How would I go about getting a midi track of a particular song? That sounds interesting? Many thanks! Vicky - Original Message - From: Dave Bahr dcba...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Wanting to hear only one part? Vicky. There is a thing in goldwave that will attempt to reduce vocals, but it's hit or miss. It all depends on what sort of music it is. If it was recorded, lets just say ballpark, 1964 or so, then they were putting two track on one cannel and two on another with the vocal, like the beatles early stuff. However, the issue really comes in when you have a stereo recording where the channels match. Now what you could do is, and please correct me gang if I've got this a bit bassackward, but couldn't you theoretically invert the phase of the channels? I know in the stereo section of goldwave's effects menu there is a channel mixer. But as far as specifically isolating, say, the flute part from the flute and harp concerto by mozart, that's not too easy if the recording is mixed in both channels. If you happened to have some old recording in the 4 track format described above, then maybe you could digitize that and invert the phase of the channels. So the really long short answer is, kinda sorta not really. It would depend if you wanted complete and utter isolation of an instrumental track. But wait, there's more! If you've stuck it out with me thus far, then I just thought of another idea. Could you get a midi track of the song you want and then put it into a sequencer like sonar with the caketalking scripts? Then yes you truly could hear the flute part to the flute and harp concerto. It wouldn't be Galway or whomever playing it, but it would be a start to learning the material. So, those are my thoughts for whatever they are worth. If that helped at all, then cool. If it just kind of put you to sleep, then, well everyone needs some way to sleep. And if you stopped reading awhile back then, you're not reading this anyway. If you like i could look at the track in question and see what might be able to be done with it, feel free to email me off list. Dave c. bahr On 7/5/2011 5:40 PM, Victoria Vaughan wrote: Hi folks, When I'm trying to pick out a song to play it on guitar or harp, I would love to have the ability to hear just one of the instruments in the recording on a CD. Do you know if any of the audio packages such as Gold Wave or Total Recorder can do this? Many thanks for any thoughts on the matter! Vicky To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17860) http://www.pctools.com/ === To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17860) http://www.pctools.com/ === To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org === Email scanned
Re: Wanting to hear only one part?
Vicky. There is a thing in goldwave that will attempt to reduce vocals, but it's hit or miss. It all depends on what sort of music it is. If it was recorded, lets just say ballpark, 1964 or so, then they were putting two track on one cannel and two on another with the vocal, like the beatles early stuff. However, the issue really comes in when you have a stereo recording where the channels match. Now what you could do is, and please correct me gang if I've got this a bit bassackward, but couldn't you theoretically invert the phase of the channels? I know in the stereo section of goldwave's effects menu there is a channel mixer. But as far as specifically isolating, say, the flute part from the flute and harp concerto by mozart, that's not too easy if the recording is mixed in both channels. If you happened to have some old recording in the 4 track format described above, then maybe you could digitize that and invert the phase of the channels. So the really long short answer is, kinda sorta not really. It would depend if you wanted complete and utter isolation of an instrumental track. But wait, there's more! If you've stuck it out with me thus far, then I just thought of another idea. Could you get a midi track of the song you want and then put it into a sequencer like sonar with the caketalking scripts? Then yes you truly could hear the flute part to the flute and harp concerto. It wouldn't be Galway or whomever playing it, but it would be a start to learning the material. So, those are my thoughts for whatever they are worth. If that helped at all, then cool. If it just kind of put you to sleep, then, well everyone needs some way to sleep. And if you stopped reading awhile back then, you're not reading this anyway. If you like i could look at the track in question and see what might be able to be done with it, feel free to email me off list. Dave c. bahr On 7/5/2011 5:40 PM, Victoria Vaughan wrote: Hi folks, When I'm trying to pick out a song to play it on guitar or harp, I would love to have the ability to hear just one of the instruments in the recording on a CD. Do you know if any of the audio packages such as Gold Wave or Total Recorder can do this? Many thanks for any thoughts on the matter! Vicky To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Wanting to hear only one part?
How would I go about getting a midi track of a particular song? That sounds interesting? Many thanks! Vicky - Original Message - From: Dave Bahr dcba...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Wanting to hear only one part? Vicky. There is a thing in goldwave that will attempt to reduce vocals, but it's hit or miss. It all depends on what sort of music it is. If it was recorded, lets just say ballpark, 1964 or so, then they were putting two track on one cannel and two on another with the vocal, like the beatles early stuff. However, the issue really comes in when you have a stereo recording where the channels match. Now what you could do is, and please correct me gang if I've got this a bit bassackward, but couldn't you theoretically invert the phase of the channels? I know in the stereo section of goldwave's effects menu there is a channel mixer. But as far as specifically isolating, say, the flute part from the flute and harp concerto by mozart, that's not too easy if the recording is mixed in both channels. If you happened to have some old recording in the 4 track format described above, then maybe you could digitize that and invert the phase of the channels. So the really long short answer is, kinda sorta not really. It would depend if you wanted complete and utter isolation of an instrumental track. But wait, there's more! If you've stuck it out with me thus far, then I just thought of another idea. Could you get a midi track of the song you want and then put it into a sequencer like sonar with the caketalking scripts? Then yes you truly could hear the flute part to the flute and harp concerto. It wouldn't be Galway or whomever playing it, but it would be a start to learning the material. So, those are my thoughts for whatever they are worth. If that helped at all, then cool. If it just kind of put you to sleep, then, well everyone needs some way to sleep. And if you stopped reading awhile back then, you're not reading this anyway. If you like i could look at the track in question and see what might be able to be done with it, feel free to email me off list. Dave c. bahr On 7/5/2011 5:40 PM, Victoria Vaughan wrote: Hi folks, When I'm trying to pick out a song to play it on guitar or harp, I would love to have the ability to hear just one of the instruments in the recording on a CD. Do you know if any of the audio packages such as Gold Wave or Total Recorder can do this? Many thanks for any thoughts on the matter! Vicky To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17860) http://www.pctools.com/ === To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: Wanting to hear only one part?
you need to have the track as a midi file if you can find one. Then you'd have to have a sequencer that recognizes the interface and parts of the song that are different tracks or instruments if any. www.dancingdots.com is where the software that will help you best. Not cheap but powerful. It might be a bit much, I'm not sure what you're looking for from a track specifically. Dave c. bahr On 7/5/2011 6:36 PM, Victoria Vaughan wrote: How would I go about getting a midi track of a particular song? That sounds interesting? Many thanks! Vicky - Original Message - From: Dave Bahr dcba...@gmail.com To: PC Audio Discussion List pc-audio@pc-audio.org Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 6:11 PM Subject: Re: Wanting to hear only one part? Vicky. There is a thing in goldwave that will attempt to reduce vocals, but it's hit or miss. It all depends on what sort of music it is. If it was recorded, lets just say ballpark, 1964 or so, then they were putting two track on one cannel and two on another with the vocal, like the beatles early stuff. However, the issue really comes in when you have a stereo recording where the channels match. Now what you could do is, and please correct me gang if I've got this a bit bassackward, but couldn't you theoretically invert the phase of the channels? I know in the stereo section of goldwave's effects menu there is a channel mixer. But as far as specifically isolating, say, the flute part from the flute and harp concerto by mozart, that's not too easy if the recording is mixed in both channels. If you happened to have some old recording in the 4 track format described above, then maybe you could digitize that and invert the phase of the channels. So the really long short answer is, kinda sorta not really. It would depend if you wanted complete and utter isolation of an instrumental track. But wait, there's more! If you've stuck it out with me thus far, then I just thought of another idea. Could you get a midi track of the song you want and then put it into a sequencer like sonar with the caketalking scripts? Then yes you truly could hear the flute part to the flute and harp concerto. It wouldn't be Galway or whomever playing it, but it would be a start to learning the material. So, those are my thoughts for whatever they are worth. If that helped at all, then cool. If it just kind of put you to sleep, then, well everyone needs some way to sleep. And if you stopped reading awhile back then, you're not reading this anyway. If you like i could look at the track in question and see what might be able to be done with it, feel free to email me off list. Dave c. bahr On 7/5/2011 5:40 PM, Victoria Vaughan wrote: Hi folks, When I'm trying to pick out a song to play it on guitar or harp, I would love to have the ability to hear just one of the instruments in the recording on a CD. Do you know if any of the audio packages such as Gold Wave or Total Recorder can do this? Many thanks for any thoughts on the matter! Vicky To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.17860) http://www.pctools.com/ === To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
