Re: programs for what I want to do

2005-06-08 Thread Bruce Toews
That's why I'm glad we have a variety of programs out there. I personally 
got nowhere with nero, and finally gave up on it, but obviously for you 
it's worked out extremely well, not to mention a bunch of other people.


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On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Gary Wood wrote:

Hi Bruce.  Thanks for that.  I really like using Nero.  A strange thing 
happened:  I burned a CD, but part of the files wouldn't play, even in 
Winamp.  I must have started a project, then went out of it, thinking that I 
could get back to it.  Nero said, "File not found.  Do you want to remove it 
from the compilation?"  I didn't, thinking there was nothing wrong; so it 
looks like I may have to burn my compilation over again; but actually, I 
think Nero is the best, and I took the word from some who say it's more 
accessible than Easy CD Creator.

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 You could, but it's not much cheaper than Nero, has much less
 functionality, is not completely accessible despite the propaganda, and in
 my personal, one-person's opinion, is overpriced and overrated.

 Bruce

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 On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Gary Wood wrote:

>  You could try Premier CD Creator.
>  - Original Message - From: "Steve Gomes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: 
>  Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:04 PM
>  Subject: programs for what I want to do
> 
> 
> >  I was thinking of getting Nero but It might have more than I need. 
> >  Here is what I want to do. Download songs off the net and put them on 
> >  cds. and burn my own cds and later possibly converting the songs or cd 
> >  to mp3 files and putting them on dvds. I hate to spend $79 on Nero if 
> >  it has a bunch of features I don't need such as video stiff. What 
> >  about winamp or another program.
> > 
> > 
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Re: programs for what I want to do

2005-06-07 Thread Gary Wood
It sounds like I don't really want to try that one.  They really shouldn't 
say that their program is accessible if it isn't.
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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 9:51 AM
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Regretfully, because I'd love to be able to support a product like Premier
and its accessibility-focused company, I have to agree with Bruce, here. 
I

recently had a pretty unsatisfying experience exploring the program on a
trial basis.  Strange things went wrong,

for instance, when I wasn't able to figure out how to move files from one
list to another for burning a CD (the application's not as accessible or
intuitive/self-explanatory as it seems to think it is) and activated the
Burn button prematurely, it crashed the program every time, making it that
much harder to learn by trying.

And in the .mp3 ripping area, the demo version somehow got hold of a CD 
that

I don't even own and, no matter what I put into my CD drive to rip from,
displayed only the tracks from that other, phantom CD.  And even ripped 
them

to disk!

I wrote to the company by email about these two problems (I'm sure not 
about

to call them by the euphemism "issues," because they shouldn't even have
been on the proverbial table at all, in the first place), I received no
explanation or advice, even though a lone executive honcho wrote back once
and told me that the engineers must have lost my message,and recommended I
write again, but still I never heard a thing from them.

On top of it, the interface was overlabeled in a silly, clunky  way, 
lacked

the hotkey commands you'd think an accessibility group would strive to
supply, and, just as Bruce says, wasn't nearly as screen reader or user
friendly as it's made out to be.

I was pretty disappointed by my experience.  Also, in terms of comparative
functionality, the thing can't copy a CD (I'm pretty sure, anyway) and
doesn't make data CDs for any purpose, including backup.


From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:09 AM
Subject: Re: programs for what I want to do


You could, but it's not much cheaper than Nero, has much less
functionality, is not completely accessible despite the propaganda, and in
my personal, one-person's opinion, is overpriced and overrated.

Bruce

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On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Gary Wood wrote:


You could try Premier CD Creator.
- Original Message - From: "Steve Gomes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:04 PM
Subject: programs for what I want to do



I was thinking of getting Nero but It might have more than I need. Here
is
what I want to do. Download songs off the net and put them on cds. and
burn
my own cds and later possibly converting the songs or cd to mp3 files 
and

putting them on dvds. I hate to spend $79 on Nero if it has a bunch of
features I don't need such as video stiff. What about winamp or another
program.



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Re: programs for what I want to do

2005-06-07 Thread Gary Wood
Hi Bruce.  Thanks for that.  I really like using Nero.  A strange thing 
happened:  I burned a CD, but part of the files wouldn't play, even in 
Winamp.  I must have started a project, then went out of it, thinking that I 
could get back to it.  Nero said, "File not found.  Do you want to remove it 
from the compilation?"  I didn't, thinking there was nothing wrong; so it 
looks like I may have to burn my compilation over again; but actually, I 
think Nero is the best, and I took the word from some who say it's more 
accessible than Easy CD Creator.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 5:09 AM
Subject: Re: programs for what I want to do


You could, but it's not much cheaper than Nero, has much less 
functionality, is not completely accessible despite the propaganda, and in 
my personal, one-person's opinion, is overpriced and overrated.


Bruce

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On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Gary Wood wrote:


You could try Premier CD Creator.
- Original Message - From: "Steve Gomes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:04 PM
Subject: programs for what I want to do


I was thinking of getting Nero but It might have more than I need. Here 
is what I want to do. Download songs off the net and put them on cds. 
and burn my own cds and later possibly converting the songs or cd to mp3 
files and putting them on dvds. I hate to spend $79 on Nero if it has a 
bunch of features I don't need such as video stiff. What about winamp or 
another program.



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Re: programs for what I want to do

2005-06-07 Thread Yardbird
Regretfully, because I'd love to be able to support a product like Premier 
and its accessibility-focused company, I have to agree with Bruce, here.  I 
recently had a pretty unsatisfying experience exploring the program on a 
trial basis.  Strange things went wrong,

for instance, when I wasn't able to figure out how to move files from one 
list to another for burning a CD (the application's not as accessible or 
intuitive/self-explanatory as it seems to think it is) and activated the 
Burn button prematurely, it crashed the program every time, making it that 
much harder to learn by trying.

And in the .mp3 ripping area, the demo version somehow got hold of a CD that 
I don't even own and, no matter what I put into my CD drive to rip from, 
displayed only the tracks from that other, phantom CD.  And even ripped them 
to disk!

I wrote to the company by email about these two problems (I'm sure not about 
to call them by the euphemism "issues," because they shouldn't even have 
been on the proverbial table at all, in the first place), I received no 
explanation or advice, even though a lone executive honcho wrote back once 
and told me that the engineers must have lost my message,and recommended I 
write again, but still I never heard a thing from them.

On top of it, the interface was overlabeled in a silly, clunky  way, lacked 
the hotkey commands you'd think an accessibility group would strive to 
supply, and, just as Bruce says, wasn't nearly as screen reader or user 
friendly as it's made out to be.

I was pretty disappointed by my experience.  Also, in terms of comparative 
functionality, the thing can't copy a CD (I'm pretty sure, anyway) and 
doesn't make data CDs for any purpose, including backup.


From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:09 AM
Subject: Re: programs for what I want to do


You could, but it's not much cheaper than Nero, has much less
functionality, is not completely accessible despite the propaganda, and in
my personal, one-person's opinion, is overpriced and overrated.

Bruce

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On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Gary Wood wrote:

> You could try Premier CD Creator.
> - Original Message - From: "Steve Gomes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:04 PM
> Subject: programs for what I want to do
>
>
>> I was thinking of getting Nero but It might have more than I need. Here 
>> is
>> what I want to do. Download songs off the net and put them on cds. and 
>> burn
>> my own cds and later possibly converting the songs or cd to mp3 files and
>> putting them on dvds. I hate to spend $79 on Nero if it has a bunch of
>> features I don't need such as video stiff. What about winamp or another
>> program.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: programs for what I want to do

2005-06-07 Thread Bruce Toews
You could, but it's not much cheaper than Nero, has much less 
functionality, is not completely accessible despite the propaganda, and in 
my personal, one-person's opinion, is overpriced and overrated.


Bruce

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On Tue, 7 Jun 2005, Gary Wood wrote:


You could try Premier CD Creator.
- Original Message - From: "Steve Gomes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:04 PM
Subject: programs for what I want to do


I was thinking of getting Nero but It might have more than I need. Here is 
what I want to do. Download songs off the net and put them on cds. and burn 
my own cds and later possibly converting the songs or cd to mp3 files and 
putting them on dvds. I hate to spend $79 on Nero if it has a bunch of 
features I don't need such as video stiff. What about winamp or another 
program.




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Re: programs for what I want to do

2005-06-06 Thread Gary Wood

You could try Premier CD Creator.
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Gomes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:04 PM
Subject: programs for what I want to do


I was thinking of getting Nero but It might have more than I need. Here is 
what I want to do. Download songs off the net and put them on cds. and burn 
my own cds and later possibly converting the songs or cd to mp3 files and 
putting them on dvds. I hate to spend $79 on Nero if it has a bunch of 
features I don't need such as video stiff. What about winamp or another 
program.




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Re: programs for what I want to do

2005-06-06 Thread Bruce Toews

For versatility, I'd recommend Easy CD-Da Extractor.

Bruce

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On Mon, 6 Jun 2005, Steve Gomes wrote:

I was thinking of getting Nero but It might have more than I need. Here is 
what I want to do. Download songs off the net and put them on cds. and burn 
my own cds and later possibly converting the songs or cd to mp3 files and 
putting them on dvds. I hate to spend $79 on Nero if it has a bunch of 
features I don't need such as video stiff. What about winamp or another 
program.




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Re: programs for what I want to do

2005-06-06 Thread Nick Gawronski
Hi, look at http://www.readingmadeeasy.com they have a program called 
premear cd and dvd creator that works great with screen readers as it was 
designed just for screen reader users.  bye

My web page is at http://www.nickgawronski.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Gomes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 4:04 PM
Subject: programs for what I want to do


I was thinking of getting Nero but It might have more than I need. Here is 
what I want to do. Download songs off the net and put them on cds. and burn 
my own cds and later possibly converting the songs or cd to mp3 files and 
putting them on dvds. I hate to spend $79 on Nero if it has a bunch of 
features I don't need such as video stiff. What about winamp or another 
program.




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