Re: boot camp, read everyone

2006-04-07 Thread Gary Wood
But maybe there are some advantages of having a Mack over Windows, and then 
again, there are advantages of having Windows over a Mack, so there are some 
advantages of having both on your PC!
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>I am wondering if you are going to run Windows on the MAC why do you want a
> MAC?  I mean isn't the point of having a MAC because you don't want to use
> Windows?
>
> Karl
>
>
>
> 
>
> Karl Smith
> Access Technology Specialist
> Axis
> 4304 South El Camino St.
> Taylorsville, Utah 84119
>
> Phone:  866-824-7885
> Fax:866-824-7885
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>
> No one will ever go broke underestimating the intelligence of the human
> race.
>
>   - H. L. Menkin
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> On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro
> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 12:22 PM
> To: 'PC audio discussion list. '
> Subject: RE: boot camp, read everyone
>
> I wonder if VoiceOver will be available to someone using this BootCamp
> thing?
>
>
>
>
> --Best regards,
>
> --Rick Alfaro
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>
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Michael Babcock
> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 1:05 AM
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: boot camp, read everyone
>
> More and more people are buying and loving Macs. To make this choice 
> simply
> irresistible, Apple will include technology in the next major release of 
> Mac
> OS X, Leopard, that lets you install and run the Windows XP operating 
> system
> on your Mac. Called Boot Camp (for now), you can download a public beta
> today.
>
> As elegant as it gets
>
> Boot Camp lets you install Windows XP without moving your Mac data, though
> you will need to bring your own copy to the table, as Apple Computer does
> not sell or support Microsoft Windows.(1) Boot Camp will burn a CD of all
> the required drivers for Windows so you don't have to scrounge around the
> Internet looking for them.
> System Manager
>
> Optional alt. At startup, hold down the option key (alt) to choose between
> Mac OS X and Windows.
>
> Run XP natively
>
> Once you've completed Boot Camp, simply hold down the option key at 
> startup
> to choose between Mac OS X and Windows. (That's the "alt" key for you
> longtime Windows users.) After starting up, your Mac runs Windows 
> completely
> natively. Simply restart to come back to Mac.
>
> What you'll need
> List of 7 items
> . Mac OS X Tiger v10.4.6 (check
> Software Update)
> . The latest Firmware update (check
> Support Downloads)
> . 10GB free hard disk space
> . An
> Intel-based Mac
> . A blank recordable CD
> . A printer for the instructions (You'll want to print them before
> installing Windows, really.) . A bona fide installation disc for Microsoft
> Windows XP, Service Pack 2, Home or Professional (No multi-disc, upgrade 
> or
> Media Center versions.) list end
>
> The Boot Camp course
>
> Boot Camp Public Beta provides a straightforward means of letting your Mac
> run Windows. Here's how it works:
> Intuitive partitioning.
>
> Space maker. Meet the most elegant hard drive utility ever.
> List of 6 items
> . First, you need to make sure your Intel-based Mac has the latest version
> of Mac OS X and the latest firmware update. These provide technologies 
> that
> make Boot Camp possible. It's also wise to print out the Installation &
> Setup Guide.
> . The Boot Camp burns a CD with the drivers Windows needs to recognize
> Mac-specific hardware. It is very important to do this before starting the
> Windows installation.
> . The software also helps you set aside hard drive space for the Windows
> installation, without moving any of your Mac files around. Just drag the
> intuitive slider to choose the size that's right for you. Boot Camp also
> helps you remove the Windows partition, should you so desire.
> . Next, insert your Windows installation disc, restart and follow the
> Windows installation process. The only tricky part is selecting the C: 
> drive
> manually.
> Be sure to get this right, or you could erase your Mac files accidentally.
> Remember, Apple Computer does not sell or support Microsoft Windows.
> . After the installation process is complete and your Mac has booted
> Windows, you'll need the Macintosh Drivers CD you burned previously. When
> you insert the CD, it

RE: boot camp, read everyone

2006-04-07 Thread Christopher J Chaltain
I assumed this was something like VMWare, where you could run Windows and 
OS X simultaneously, but after looking more closely it appears to be more 
of a dual boot option.  I guess it's for the family or someone who wants 
to be able to run OS X some of the time and Windows XP at other times. 
Maybe it'll help people transition from Windows to OS X.  I'm assuming a 
Mac will cost you a bit more than a PC for the same performance, both 
running windows, so I wouldn't think people would be running out to buy 
Macs so they could run Windows on it, especially when you'll have to pay 
for Windows.

As far as VoiceOver is concerned, I assume it would run under OS X, but it 
wouldn't give you any access to Windows, since according to what I'm 
reading, OS X and VoiceOver won't be running if you boot up into Windows.

Please understand that these are just my assumptions based on a very 
cursory glance at the information.  Anyone more knowledge is encouraged to 
correct anything I've said here!

Christopher

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I am wondering if you are going to run Windows on the MAC why do you want 
a
MAC?  I mean isn't the point of having a MAC because you don't want to use
Windows?

Karl
 




Karl Smith
Access Technology Specialist
Axis
4304 South El Camino St.
Taylorsville, Utah 84119

Phone:  866-824-7885
Fax:866-824-7885
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

No one will ever go broke underestimating the intelligence of the human
race.

   - H. L. Menkin
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Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 12:22 PM
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Subject: RE: boot camp, read everyone

I wonder if VoiceOver will be available to someone using this BootCamp
thing? 




--Best regards,

--Rick Alfaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Michael Babcock
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 1:05 AM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: boot camp, read everyone

More and more people are buying and loving Macs. To make this choice 
simply
irresistible, Apple will include technology in the next major release of 
Mac
OS X, Leopard, that lets you install and run the Windows XP operating 
system
on your Mac. Called Boot Camp (for now), you can download a public beta
today.

As elegant as it gets

Boot Camp lets you install Windows XP without moving your Mac data, though
you will need to bring your own copy to the table, as Apple Computer does
not sell or support Microsoft Windows.(1) Boot Camp will burn a CD of all
the required drivers for Windows so you don't have to scrounge around the
Internet looking for them.
System Manager

Optional alt. At startup, hold down the option key (alt) to choose between
Mac OS X and Windows.

Run XP natively

Once you've completed Boot Camp, simply hold down the option key at 
startup
to choose between Mac OS X and Windows. (That's the "alt" key for you
longtime Windows users.) After starting up, your Mac runs Windows 
completely
natively. Simply restart to come back to Mac.

What you'll need
List of 7 items
. Mac OS X Tiger v10.4.6 (check
Software Update)
. The latest Firmware update (check
Support Downloads)
. 10GB free hard disk space
. An
Intel-based Mac
. A blank recordable CD
. A printer for the instructions (You'll want to print them before
installing Windows, really.) . A bona fide installation disc for Microsoft
Windows XP, Service Pack 2, Home or Professional (No multi-disc, upgrade 
or
Media Center versions.) list end

The Boot Camp course

Boot Camp Public Beta provides a straightforward means of letting your Mac
run Windows. Here's how it works:
Intuitive partitioning.

Space maker. Meet the most elegant hard drive utility ever.
List of 6 items
. First, you need to make sure your Intel-based Mac has the latest version
of Mac OS X and the latest firmware update. These provide technologies 
that
make Boot Camp possible. It's also wise to print out the Installation &
Setup Guide.
. The Boot Camp burns a CD with the drivers Windows needs to recognize
Mac-specific hardware. It is very important to do this before starting the
Windows installation.
. The software also helps you set aside hard drive space for the Windows
installation, without moving any of your Mac files around. Just drag the
intuitive slider to choose the size that's right for you. Boot Camp also
helps you remove the Windows partition, should you so desire.
. Next, insert your Windows installation disc, restart and follow the
Windows installation process. The only tricky par

RE: boot camp, read everyone

2006-04-07 Thread Karl Smith
I am wondering if you are going to run Windows on the MAC why do you want a
MAC?  I mean isn't the point of having a MAC because you don't want to use
Windows?

Karl
 




Karl Smith
Access Technology Specialist
Axis
4304 South El Camino St.
Taylorsville, Utah 84119

Phone:  866-824-7885
Fax:866-824-7885
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

No one will ever go broke underestimating the intelligence of the human
race.

   - H. L. Menkin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 12:22 PM
To: 'PC audio discussion list. '
Subject: RE: boot camp, read everyone

I wonder if VoiceOver will be available to someone using this BootCamp
thing? 




--Best regards,

--Rick Alfaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Michael Babcock
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 1:05 AM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: boot camp, read everyone

More and more people are buying and loving Macs. To make this choice simply
irresistible, Apple will include technology in the next major release of Mac
OS X, Leopard, that lets you install and run the Windows XP operating system
on your Mac. Called Boot Camp (for now), you can download a public beta
today.

As elegant as it gets

Boot Camp lets you install Windows XP without moving your Mac data, though
you will need to bring your own copy to the table, as Apple Computer does
not sell or support Microsoft Windows.(1) Boot Camp will burn a CD of all
the required drivers for Windows so you don't have to scrounge around the
Internet looking for them.
System Manager

Optional alt. At startup, hold down the option key (alt) to choose between
Mac OS X and Windows.

Run XP natively

Once you've completed Boot Camp, simply hold down the option key at startup
to choose between Mac OS X and Windows. (That's the "alt" key for you
longtime Windows users.) After starting up, your Mac runs Windows completely
natively. Simply restart to come back to Mac.

What you'll need
List of 7 items
. Mac OS X Tiger v10.4.6 (check
Software Update)
. The latest Firmware update (check
Support Downloads)
. 10GB free hard disk space
. An
Intel-based Mac
. A blank recordable CD
. A printer for the instructions (You'll want to print them before
installing Windows, really.) . A bona fide installation disc for Microsoft
Windows XP, Service Pack 2, Home or Professional (No multi-disc, upgrade or
Media Center versions.) list end

The Boot Camp course

Boot Camp Public Beta provides a straightforward means of letting your Mac
run Windows. Here's how it works:
Intuitive partitioning.

Space maker. Meet the most elegant hard drive utility ever.
List of 6 items
. First, you need to make sure your Intel-based Mac has the latest version
of Mac OS X and the latest firmware update. These provide technologies that
make Boot Camp possible. It's also wise to print out the Installation &
Setup Guide.
. The Boot Camp burns a CD with the drivers Windows needs to recognize
Mac-specific hardware. It is very important to do this before starting the
Windows installation.
. The software also helps you set aside hard drive space for the Windows
installation, without moving any of your Mac files around. Just drag the
intuitive slider to choose the size that's right for you. Boot Camp also
helps you remove the Windows partition, should you so desire.
. Next, insert your Windows installation disc, restart and follow the
Windows installation process. The only tricky part is selecting the C: drive
manually.
Be sure to get this right, or you could erase your Mac files accidentally.
Remember, Apple Computer does not sell or support Microsoft Windows.
. After the installation process is complete and your Mac has booted
Windows, you'll need the Macintosh Drivers CD you burned previously. When
you insert the CD, it will automatically install the drivers. Follow the
instructions in the Installation & Setup Guide for helpful hints.
. Don't forget to follow best practices for updating and protecting your
Windows system (see "Word to the wise" to right).
list end
List of 1 items
1. You'll need Windows XP Home Edition or Professional, Service Pack 2
installation disc.
list end

Included Amenities

For your convenience, Boot Camp burns a CD with all the Mac-specific drivers
for Windows:
List of 7 items
. Graphics
. Networking
. Audio
. AirPort wireless
. Bluetooth
. The Eject key (on Apple keyboards)
. Brightness control for built-in displays list end

This CD also installs a Startup Disk control panel for Windows. To find it,
look for Startup Disk in the Performance and Maintenance section of the
Windows XP Control Panel. See the Installation & Setup Guide for more
details.

Using Windows on a Mac

Mac hardware operates differently from PCs, and this public beta does not
support a

RE: boot camp, read everyone

2006-04-07 Thread Rick Alfaro
I wonder if VoiceOver will be available to someone using this BootCamp
thing? 




--Best regards,

--Rick Alfaro
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Michael Babcock
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 1:05 AM
To: PC audio discussion list. 
Subject: boot camp, read everyone

More and more people are buying and loving Macs. To make this choice simply
irresistible, Apple will include technology in the next major release of Mac
OS X, Leopard, that lets you install and run the Windows XP operating system
on your Mac. Called Boot Camp (for now), you can download a public beta
today.

As elegant as it gets

Boot Camp lets you install Windows XP without moving your Mac data, though
you will need to bring your own copy to the table, as Apple Computer does
not sell or support Microsoft Windows.(1) Boot Camp will burn a CD of all
the required drivers for Windows so you don't have to scrounge around the
Internet looking for them.
System Manager

Optional alt. At startup, hold down the option key (alt) to choose between
Mac OS X and Windows.

Run XP natively

Once you've completed Boot Camp, simply hold down the option key at startup
to choose between Mac OS X and Windows. (That's the "alt" key for you
longtime Windows users.) After starting up, your Mac runs Windows completely
natively. Simply restart to come back to Mac.

What you'll need
List of 7 items
. Mac OS X Tiger v10.4.6 (check
Software Update)
. The latest Firmware update (check
Support Downloads)
. 10GB free hard disk space
. An
Intel-based Mac
. A blank recordable CD
. A printer for the instructions (You'll want to print them before
installing Windows, really.) . A bona fide installation disc for Microsoft
Windows XP, Service Pack 2, Home or Professional (No multi-disc, upgrade or
Media Center versions.) list end

The Boot Camp course

Boot Camp Public Beta provides a straightforward means of letting your Mac
run Windows. Here's how it works:
Intuitive partitioning.

Space maker. Meet the most elegant hard drive utility ever.
List of 6 items
. First, you need to make sure your Intel-based Mac has the latest version
of Mac OS X and the latest firmware update. These provide technologies that
make Boot Camp possible. It's also wise to print out the Installation &
Setup Guide.
. The Boot Camp burns a CD with the drivers Windows needs to recognize
Mac-specific hardware. It is very important to do this before starting the
Windows installation.
. The software also helps you set aside hard drive space for the Windows
installation, without moving any of your Mac files around. Just drag the
intuitive slider to choose the size that's right for you. Boot Camp also
helps you remove the Windows partition, should you so desire.
. Next, insert your Windows installation disc, restart and follow the
Windows installation process. The only tricky part is selecting the C: drive
manually.
Be sure to get this right, or you could erase your Mac files accidentally.
Remember, Apple Computer does not sell or support Microsoft Windows.
. After the installation process is complete and your Mac has booted
Windows, you'll need the Macintosh Drivers CD you burned previously. When
you insert the CD, it will automatically install the drivers. Follow the
instructions in the Installation & Setup Guide for helpful hints.
. Don't forget to follow best practices for updating and protecting your
Windows system (see "Word to the wise" to right).
list end
List of 1 items
1. You'll need Windows XP Home Edition or Professional, Service Pack 2
installation disc.
list end

Included Amenities

For your convenience, Boot Camp burns a CD with all the Mac-specific drivers
for Windows:
List of 7 items
. Graphics
. Networking
. Audio
. AirPort wireless
. Bluetooth
. The Eject key (on Apple keyboards)
. Brightness control for built-in displays list end

This CD also installs a Startup Disk control panel for Windows. To find it,
look for Startup Disk in the Performance and Maintenance section of the
Windows XP Control Panel. See the Installation & Setup Guide for more
details.

Using Windows on a Mac

Mac hardware operates differently from PCs, and this public beta does not
support all features of the Mac in Windows.
Learn more
about running Windows on a Mac.

Mac OS X Leopard

Developers can learn all about the sixth major release of Mac OS X this
century at Apple's Worldwide Developer Conference, to be held August 7-11 in
San Francisco.

EFI and BIOS

Macs use an ultra-modern industry standard technology called EFI to handle
booting. Sadly, Windows XP, and even the upcoming Vista, are stuck in the
1980s with old-fashioned BIOS. But with Boot Camp, the Mac can operate
smoothly in both centuries.

Word to the Wise

Windows running on a Mac is like Windows running on a PC. That means it'll
be subject to the same attacks that plague the Windows worl

boot camp, read everyone

2006-04-06 Thread Michael Babcock
More and more people are buying and loving Macs. To make this choice simply 
irresistible, Apple will include technology in the next major release of Mac
OS X, Leopard, that lets you install and run the Windows XP operating system on 
your Mac. Called Boot Camp (for now), you can download a public beta today.

As elegant as it gets

Boot Camp lets you install Windows XP without moving your Mac data, though you 
will need to bring your own copy to the table, as Apple Computer does not
sell or support Microsoft Windows.(1) Boot Camp will burn a CD of all the 
required drivers for Windows so you don't have to scrounge around the Internet
looking for them.
System Manager

Optional alt. At startup, hold down the option key (alt) to choose between Mac 
OS X and Windows.

Run XP natively

Once you've completed Boot Camp, simply hold down the option key at startup to 
choose between Mac OS X and Windows. (That's the "alt" key for you longtime
Windows users.) After starting up, your Mac runs Windows completely natively. 
Simply restart to come back to Mac.

What you'll need
List of 7 items
. Mac OS X Tiger v10.4.6 (check
Software Update)
. The latest Firmware update (check
Support Downloads)
. 10GB free hard disk space
. An
Intel-based Mac
. A blank recordable CD
. A printer for the instructions (You'll want to print them before installing 
Windows, really.)
. A bona fide installation disc for Microsoft Windows XP, Service Pack 2, Home 
or Professional (No multi-disc, upgrade or Media Center versions.)
list end

The Boot Camp course

Boot Camp Public Beta provides a straightforward means of letting your Mac run 
Windows. Here's how it works:
Intuitive partitioning.

Space maker. Meet the most elegant hard drive utility ever.
List of 6 items
. First, you need to make sure your Intel-based Mac has the latest version of 
Mac OS X and the latest firmware update. These provide technologies that make
Boot Camp possible. It's also wise to print out the
Installation & Setup Guide.
. The Boot Camp burns a CD with the drivers Windows needs to recognize 
Mac-specific hardware. It is very important to do this before starting the 
Windows
installation.
. The software also helps you set aside hard drive space for the Windows 
installation, without moving any of your Mac files around. Just drag the 
intuitive
slider to choose the size that's right for you. Boot Camp also helps you remove 
the Windows partition, should you so desire.
. Next, insert your Windows installation disc, restart and follow the Windows 
installation process. The only tricky part is selecting the C: drive manually.
Be sure to get this right, or you could erase your Mac files accidentally. 
Remember, Apple Computer does not sell or support Microsoft Windows.
. After the installation process is complete and your Mac has booted Windows, 
you'll need the Macintosh Drivers CD you burned previously. When you insert
the CD, it will automatically install the drivers. Follow the instructions in 
the
Installation & Setup Guide
for helpful hints.
. Don't forget to follow best practices for updating and protecting your 
Windows system (see "Word to the wise" to right).
list end
List of 1 items
1. You'll need Windows XP Home Edition or Professional, Service Pack 2 
installation disc.
list end

Included Amenities

For your convenience, Boot Camp burns a CD with all the Mac-specific drivers 
for Windows:
List of 7 items
. Graphics
. Networking
. Audio
. AirPort wireless
. Bluetooth
. The Eject key (on Apple keyboards)
. Brightness control for built-in displays
list end

This CD also installs a Startup Disk control panel for Windows. To find it, 
look for Startup Disk in the Performance and Maintenance section of the Windows
XP Control Panel. See the
Installation & Setup Guide
for more details.

Using Windows on a Mac

Mac hardware operates differently from PCs, and this public beta does not 
support all features of the Mac in Windows.
Learn more
about running Windows on a Mac.

Mac OS X Leopard

Developers can learn all about the sixth major release of Mac OS X this century 
at Apple's
Worldwide Developer Conference,
to be held August 7-11 in San Francisco.

EFI and BIOS

Macs use an ultra-modern industry standard technology called
EFI
to handle booting. Sadly, Windows XP, and even the upcoming Vista, are stuck in 
the 1980s with old-fashioned BIOS. But with Boot Camp, the Mac can operate
smoothly in both centuries.

Word to the Wise

Windows running on a Mac is like Windows running on a PC. That means it'll be 
subject to the same attacks that plague the Windows world. So be sure to keep
it updated with the latest Microsoft Windows
security
fixes.

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