Re: converting from and to mp3

2005-12-29 Thread Gary Wood
That's a good point!  Thanks!
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 Hi

 The situation is definitely more complex than the difference between .wav
 and .mp3.

 If you have an inferior quality recording of whatever y9ou are playing, 
 the
 difference  between wav and mp3 is not relevant at all.  This can possibly
 be the case with many older recordings coming from the sixties and 
 earlier.

 I would never e.g. listen to classical music in mp3 format at all -
 especially modern recordings.

 Andre


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 Some people say that MP3 quality isn't as good as wav, but I've heard 
 things
 on an MP3 that sound as good as the same file with wav!
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 It all depends on whether or not you're an audio perfectionest. It's
 still listenable, but the quality will be somewhat diminished.
 Allison

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 If you convert an mp3 to wav to work with, and then back to mp3, is
 the sound quality considerably worse than with the mp3 you started with?

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converting from and to mp3

2005-12-28 Thread Sarah Heesen
If you convert an mp3 to wav to work with, and then back to mp3, is the
sound quality considerably worse than with the mp3 you started with?

Thanks,
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Re: converting from and to mp3

2005-12-28 Thread DOC
Why would you want to convert to wav?  If it is for creating audio cds most
programs will create from mp3.
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RE: converting from and to mp3

2005-12-28 Thread Sarah Heesen
No, I'm not making CD's.  Thing is, Studio Recorder wouldn't let me work
with mp3 recordings till I made them Wave format.  So I did that.  When I'm
done, I'll be sending them to AudioBlog -- who will convert them back to
mp3, I'm guessing.  My question ... will they then sound doubly digitized.
I'm just curious.

Thanks,
Sarah

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Why would you want to convert to wav?  If it is for creating audio cds most
programs will create from mp3.
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RE: converting from and to mp3

2005-12-28 Thread Sarah Heesen
Oh good.  Thanks Denny. 

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Sarah and list,
When converting a file from mp3 to wav, you'll only get the quality of 
the mp3.  Let's say your mp3 is at 128 bit rate.  You won't be able to get 
the quality up to 256 or 320.  When you convert the wav back to mp3, you can

convert it at a higher bit rate but the sound quality will always be that of

the original mp3 which was a 128 in this example.
When you're finished editing your wave file and convert it back to mp3, 
the sound won't be any worse than what you started with.
When I make cds I always keep everything as wave files because one time 
I went from mp3 directly to a music cd and the results didn't turn out so 
good.  When that same mp3 was converted to wav then burned, no glitches in 
the file.
Denny 




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Re: converting from and to mp3

2005-12-28 Thread Bruce Toews
This is not quite accurate. When you convert back to MP3, the quality will 
not be that of the original MP3.

Bruce

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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005, Denny Daughters wrote:

 Sarah and list,
   When converting a file from mp3 to wav, you'll only get the quality of the 
 mp3.  Let's say your mp3 is at 128 bit rate.  You won't be able to get the 
 quality up to 256 or 320.  When you convert the wav back to mp3, you can 
 convert it at a higher bit rate but the sound quality will always be that of 
 the original mp3 which was a 128 in this example.
   When you're finished editing your wave file and convert it back to mp3, 
 the sound won't be any worse than what you started with.
   When I make cds I always keep everything as wave files because one time I 
 went from mp3 directly to a music cd and the results didn't turn out so good. 
 When that same mp3 was converted to wav then burned, no glitches in the file.
 Denny 





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Re: converting from and to mp3

2005-12-28 Thread Denny Daughters

Sarah and list,
   When converting a file from mp3 to wav, you'll only get the quality of 
the mp3.  Let's say your mp3 is at 128 bit rate.  You won't be able to get 
the quality up to 256 or 320.  When you convert the wav back to mp3, you can 
convert it at a higher bit rate but the sound quality will always be that of 
the original mp3 which was a 128 in this example.
   When you're finished editing your wave file and convert it back to mp3, 
the sound won't be any worse than what you started with.
   When I make cds I always keep everything as wave files because one time 
I went from mp3 directly to a music cd and the results didn't turn out so 
good.  When that same mp3 was converted to wav then burned, no glitches in 
the file.
Denny 




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RE: converting from and to mp3

2005-12-28 Thread Sarah Heesen
Okay ... that's kind o' what I thought, but will it be noticably worse or
just technically worse?

 

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This is not quite accurate. When you convert back to MP3, the quality will 
not be that of the original MP3.

Bruce

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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005, Denny Daughters wrote:

 Sarah and list,
   When converting a file from mp3 to wav, you'll only get the quality of
the 
 mp3.  Let's say your mp3 is at 128 bit rate.  You won't be able to get the

 quality up to 256 or 320.  When you convert the wav back to mp3, you can 
 convert it at a higher bit rate but the sound quality will always be that
of 
 the original mp3 which was a 128 in this example.
   When you're finished editing your wave file and convert it back to mp3, 
 the sound won't be any worse than what you started with.
   When I make cds I always keep everything as wave files because one time
I 
 went from mp3 directly to a music cd and the results didn't turn out so
good. 
 When that same mp3 was converted to wav then burned, no glitches in the
file.
 Denny 





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RE: converting from and to mp3

2005-12-28 Thread Bruce Toews
Really a hard one to answer. Everyone's ear is different. Some people say 
they don't notice it, others say it's glaring. I fall in to the second 
category, but have no idea which one you'd fall into.

Bruce

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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005, Sarah Heesen wrote:

 Okay ... that's kind o' what I thought, but will it be noticably worse or
 just technically worse?



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 This is not quite accurate. When you convert back to MP3, the quality will
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RE: converting from and to mp3

2005-12-28 Thread Sarah Heesen
*sigh* Probably the latter.  Oh well, guess I'll just have to live with it.
:-D  At least now I'm prepared.

Thanks,
Sarah 

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Really a hard one to answer. Everyone's ear is different. Some people say 
they don't notice it, others say it's glaring. I fall in to the second 
category, but have no idea which one you'd fall into.

Bruce

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On Wed, 28 Dec 2005, Sarah Heesen wrote:

 Okay ... that's kind o' what I thought, but will it be noticably worse or
 just technically worse?



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Re: converting from and to mp3

2005-12-28 Thread DOC
Have you tried CDex or goldwave?  CDex  is free.  They both will allow you
to work directly with mp3.
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 No, I'm not making CD's.  Thing is, Studio Recorder wouldn't let me work
 with mp3 recordings till I made them Wave format.  So I did that.  When
I'm
 done, I'll be sending them to AudioBlog -- who will convert them back to
 mp3, I'm guessing.  My question ... will they then sound doubly digitized.
 I'm just curious.

 Thanks,
 Sarah

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 Why would you want to convert to wav?  If it is for creating audio cds
most
 programs will create from mp3.
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  If you convert an mp3 to wav to work with, and then back to mp3, is the
  sound quality considerably worse than with the mp3 you started with?
 
  Thanks,
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Re: converting from and to mp3

2005-12-28 Thread Bruce Toews
No, they won't ... or at least Gold Wave won't. Gold Wave will always 
uncompress and recompress the file, which is the same thing as converting 
it to wave and back to MP3.

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 Have you tried CDex or goldwave?  CDex  is free.  They both will allow you
 to work directly with mp3.
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 No, I'm not making CD's.  Thing is, Studio Recorder wouldn't let me work
 with mp3 recordings till I made them Wave format.  So I did that.  When
 I'm
 done, I'll be sending them to AudioBlog -- who will convert them back to
 mp3, I'm guessing.  My question ... will they then sound doubly digitized.
 I'm just curious.

 Thanks,
 Sarah

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 most
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Re: converting from and to mp3

2005-12-28 Thread Allison Mervis
It all depends on whether or not you're an audio perfectionest. It's still 
listenable, but the quality will be somewhat diminished.

Allison

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Re: converting from and to mp3

2005-12-28 Thread Gary Wood
Some people say that MP3 quality isn't as good as wav, but I've heard things 
on an MP3 that sound as good as the same file with wav!
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It all depends on whether or not you're an audio perfectionest. It's still
listenable, but the quality will be somewhat diminished.
Allison

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RE: converting from and to mp3

2005-12-28 Thread André van Deventer
Hi

The situation is definitely more complex than the difference between .wav
and .mp3.

If you have an inferior quality recording of whatever y9ou are playing, the
difference  between wav and mp3 is not relevant at all.  This can possibly
be the case with many older recordings coming from the sixties and earlier.

I would never e.g. listen to classical music in mp3 format at all -
especially modern recordings.

Andre
 

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Some people say that MP3 quality isn't as good as wav, but I've heard things
on an MP3 that sound as good as the same file with wav!
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 It all depends on whether or not you're an audio perfectionest. It's 
 still listenable, but the quality will be somewhat diminished.
 Allison

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 If you convert an mp3 to wav to work with, and then back to mp3, is 
 the sound quality considerably worse than with the mp3 you started with?

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Re: converting from wma to mp3

2004-04-23 Thread Dave Reynolds
I use a program call alive wav mp3 convertor. I came across it on the web a
while back. Its not the most accessible program, but I've seen worse. I have
now set it up so that I can convert files from windows explorer.
Dave.
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 Hello!
 But then you will have to have an encoder installed?
 When i tried to convert from mp3 to wav it was such problems.
 /Anders.
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  Hi Lee. I just converted a WMA file to MP3 using Goldwave. It's the
 easiest
  way that I know of to perform the task.
 
  Larry
 
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  Hi I hope someone can help,
  Does anybody know of a program which can convert from wma to mp3?
  I have some files which need converting.
  Hope someone can help me.
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Re: converting from wma to mp3

2004-04-22 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hello!
But then you will have to have an encoder installed?
When i tried to convert from mp3 to wav it was such problems.
/Anders.
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 Hi Lee. I just converted a WMA file to MP3 using Goldwave. It's the
easiest
 way that I know of to perform the task.

 Larry

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 Hi I hope someone can help,
 Does anybody know of a program which can convert from wma to mp3?
 I have some files which need converting.
 Hope someone can help me.
 Thanks.
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