RE: microphone and stereo question
What does this mike sound like? -Original Message- From: pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of don ball Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 11:14 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: microphone and stereo question you should sit everyone in front of the 957 sense it is a directional mic. It hase two forward facing capsules. - Original Message - From: "joe bollard" To: "pc -audio" Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 2:05 PM Subject: microphone and stereo question > hello joe, thanks for the reply, i record using a plextalk recorder, > place the microphone in a stand on the table, my guest sits on one side of > the mike and i on the other, when playhing it back yes, my speakers are > quite wide apart, if i listen through headphones it is not so bad, but the > finished piece has to go out on radio, so i want to have it just right, > but i'm never happy with the end result, i'm a little finicky about audio, > so i'd like to get it up to a high standard, thanks for taking the trouble > joe to answer my question, take care, regards from ireland, joe. > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: microphone and stereo question
you should sit everyone in front of the 957 sense it is a directional mic. It hase two forward facing capsules. - Original Message - From: "joe bollard" To: "pc -audio" Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 2:05 PM Subject: microphone and stereo question hello joe, thanks for the reply, i record using a plextalk recorder, place the microphone in a stand on the table, my guest sits on one side of the mike and i on the other, when playhing it back yes, my speakers are quite wide apart, if i listen through headphones it is not so bad, but the finished piece has to go out on radio, so i want to have it just right, but i'm never happy with the end result, i'm a little finicky about audio, so i'd like to get it up to a high standard, thanks for taking the trouble joe to answer my question, take care, regards from ireland, joe. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: microphone and stereo question
you should use the narrow setting. Plus there is a capsule rotator in side the mic. Rotate the capsules completely forwared and use the narrow mic setting by turning the on switch to the first setting. it is a verry good mic that you can use for many aplications. it is particularly good for recording in a car or a bus. a Verry good mic. t - Original Message - From: "joe bollard" To: "pc -audio" Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 11:20 AM Subject: microphone and stereo question hello friends, last year i was given a microphone as a father's day present, my family wwent to a lot of trouble to make sure i got a good one, it's a sony ECM-MS957 and a beauty, however when i do interviews with it the stereo seems really wide, i have two settings on the mike, and i've tried them both, but even then the person i'm interviewing sounds as though he was on the other side of the street, what i'm doing is when in sound forge seven i go to the process menu, and tab down to channel processor, and go to pan stereo, is there another way, or is that the way i should be going, as i say it's a brilliant mike, but getting the balance just right is bugging me, can anyone suggest anything else i should be doing, i'm using sound forge seven, thanks for taking the time to read this, regards from ireland, joe. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
microphone and stereo question
hello again friends, well, firstly, i want to thank all those who came up with suggestions, no, i want the radio material to be in stereo, secondly, i carried out an experiment last night, [it's saturday morning here in ireland] using my good lady wife as a guinea pig, and eureka, i got it just right, arranging the seating and moving the mike a little, we did a couple of dummy interviews, and yes, i'm delighted with the end result, this time she didn't sound as though she was in the next room, thanks again guys, from a grateful irishman, take care, travel safely, joe. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: microphone and stereo question
Tim, I think he wants some stereo; I wanted that when I had my radio show many years ago. Of course, mixing to mono is the cure if Steve can't fix the problem in any other way. Joe G. - Original Message - From: tim cumings To: PC Audio Discussion List Date: Friday, Jun 17, 2011 19:29:26 Subject: Re: microphone and stereo question > > > 1joe why not convert the finished file to mono? On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:05:39 > +0100, joe > bollard wrote: > > > >hello joe, thanks for the reply, i record using a plextalk recorder, place > >the > >microphone in a stand on the table, my guest sits on one side of the mike > >and i > >on the other, when playhing it back yes, my speakers are quite wide apart, > >if i > >listen through headphones it is not so bad, but the finished piece has to go > >out on radio, so i want to have it just right, but i'm never happy with the > >end > >result, i'm a little finicky about audio, so i'd like to get it up to a high > >standard, thanks for taking the trouble joe to answer my question, take > >care, > >regards from ireland, joe. > >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > >pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: microphone and stereo question
,joe why not convert the finished file to mono? On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:05:39 +0100, joe bollard wrote: >hello joe, thanks for the reply, i record using a plextalk recorder, place >the >microphone in a stand on the table, my guest sits on one side of the mike and >i >on the other, when playhing it back yes, my speakers are quite wide apart, if >i >listen through headphones it is not so bad, but the finished piece has to go >out on radio, so i want to have it just right, but i'm never happy with the >end >result, i'm a little finicky about audio, so i'd like to get it up to a high >standard, thanks for taking the trouble joe to answer my question, take care, >regards from ireland, joe. >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: microphone and stereo question
Joe, Steve probably already hit this, but just to sum up, sit where you are but move the mike so that you both are equidistant from the mike but further from it. What we have is a triangle which is formed by the mike, you, and the person you're interviewing. Joe G. - Original Message - From: joe bollard To: "pc comaudio" Date: Friday, Jun 17, 2011 14:05:34 Subject: microphone and stereo question > > > hello joe, thanks for the reply, i record using a plextalk recorder, place > the microphone in a stand on the table, my guest sits on one side of the mike > and i on the other, when playhing it back yes, my speakers are quite wide > apart, if i listen through headphones it is not so bad, but the finished > piece has to go out on radio, so i want to have it just right, but i'm never > happy with the end result, i'm a little finicky about audio, so i'd like to > get it up to a high standard, thanks for taking the trouble joe to answer my > question, take care, regards from ireland, joe. > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
microphone and stereo question
well, steve, that was brilliant, sums everything up in a nutshell, i've learned a lot from that message, yes, my stereo is way too wide, and i think that experimenting with the seating arrangements will be well worth a try, superb my good friend, thank you most sincerely once again, i'm looking forward to trying things out now, i will let the list know how i am progressing, regards from ireland, joe. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: microphone and stereo question
Joe, What is the result that you want to achieve? If I am understanding you correctly, what likely is happening is that you and the person you interview each is heard on one speaker or the other. The result is if you are close to the speaker through which the person is speaking, the sound is all right, but if you are listening to speakers in a pattern that places you some distance from each speaker, the interview causes the individuals to sound as though they are sitting too far apart. Am I understanding the problem? If so, the first thing to consider is whether you need stereo for this interview at all. If you do, then what you are already doing with panning, which probably means you are partly combining channels to bring both participants more into the middle of the sound stage, is one way to reduce the problem. You might also be sure that your microphone is set to have the narrowest stereo sound stage which will bring channels together some. You might also consider reducing the distance between you and the person you are interviewing, or even using two microphones, one for each of you. Always be carful not to get microphones so close that you have troubles with popping P's. If a room is acoustically live, the echos of the person speaking can be picked up by the microphone used by the other person, even when it is the other half of a stereo microphone. By each of you being closer to the microphone, you reduce the level that is required and the echo or ambiance of the room plays a smaller role. Finally, some recorders have a "conference" mode which is intended to pick up all voices in a room. While this can be useful when recording a meeting, it will increase the level of background sound and echos in a room. Try using a mode other than "conference". If you have a choice, do not use automatic level controls as they can do the same thing as "conference" mode, depending upon their design. Experiment with the seating arrangement. Instead of sitting across a table from each other, try sitting at right angles such as just around the corner of the table from each other with the microphone between you. If you are able to get the results you want using Sound Forge, and if you don't mind spending the extra time, then just stick with that and don't worry about the above. Recombining channels to narrow the stereo sound stage is certainly a way to deal with this. In an interview, maximum stereo separation is not always a good thing. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:05:39 +0100, joe bollard wrote: >hello joe, thanks for the reply, i record using a plextalk recorder, place >the microphone in a stand on the table, my guest sits on one side of the mike >and i on the other, when playhing it back yes, my speakers are quite wide apart, if i listen through headphones it is not so bad, but the finished piece has to go out on radio, so i want to have it just right, but i'm never happy with the end result, i'm a little finicky about audio, so i'd like to get it up to a high standard, thanks for taking the trouble joe to answer my question, take care, regards from ireland, joe. >To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
microphone and stereo question
hello joe, thanks for the reply, i record using a plextalk recorder, place the microphone in a stand on the table, my guest sits on one side of the mike and i on the other, when playhing it back yes, my speakers are quite wide apart, if i listen through headphones it is not so bad, but the finished piece has to go out on radio, so i want to have it just right, but i'm never happy with the end result, i'm a little finicky about audio, so i'd like to get it up to a high standard, thanks for taking the trouble joe to answer my question, take care, regards from ireland, joe. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
Re: microphone and stereo question
Joe and all, I use a recorder to do most live recording and that's what I know best. I think we need to know how you're miking your subjects. It also might be good to know how far the speakers are separated. In fact, are you listening through speakers or with headphones? Is there a setting on the microphone which could possibly widen the stereo image? If your subject is very close to the mike, any movement can make a difference to the sound stage. Have the subject stand a bit further away from the mike. Is there quite a bit of reverb in the room used for recording. Rev. can add to the stereo effect. I use two mikes at 90 degrees , mounted on a single stand. I wish I could say that my stereo is too wide! I hope that helps somewhat. Joe G. - Original Message - From: joe bollard To: "pc comaudio" Date: Friday, Jun 17, 2011 11:20:50 Subject: microphone and stereo question > > > hello friends, last year i was given a microphone as a father's day present, > my family wwent to a lot of trouble to make sure i got a good one, it's a > sony ECM-MS957 and a beauty, however when i do interviews with it the > stereo seems really wide, i have two settings on the mike, and i've tried > them both, but even then the person i'm interviewing sounds as though he was > on the other side of the street, what i'm doing is when in sound forge seven > i go to the process menu, and tab down to channel processor, and go to pan > stereo, is there another way, or is that the way i should be going, as i say > it's a brilliant mike, but getting the balance just right is bugging me, can > anyone suggest anything else i should be doing, i'm using sound forge seven, > thanks for taking the time to read this, regards from ireland, joe. > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
microphone and stereo question
hello friends, last year i was given a microphone as a father's day present, my family wwent to a lot of trouble to make sure i got a good one, it's a sony ECM-MS957 and a beauty, however when i do interviews with it the stereo seems really wide, i have two settings on the mike, and i've tried them both, but even then the person i'm interviewing sounds as though he was on the other side of the street, what i'm doing is when in sound forge seven i go to the process menu, and tab down to channel processor, and go to pan stereo, is there another way, or is that the way i should be going, as i say it's a brilliant mike, but getting the balance just right is bugging me, can anyone suggest anything else i should be doing, i'm using sound forge seven, thanks for taking the time to read this, regards from ireland, joe. To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: pc-audio-unsubscr...@pc-audio.org
