[Pce] State changed: charter-ietf-pce-06-00

2014-11-10 Thread IETF Secretariat
State changed to Informal IESG review.

URL: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-pce/

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[Pce] FW: New Version Notification for draft-alvarez-pce-path-profiles-04.txt

2014-11-10 Thread Santiago Alvarez (saalvare)
Folks,

We've submitted a new version of draft-alvarez-pce-path-profiles.  Based on 
previous feedback, we've added details on motivation and some introductory 
text.  We've also added text on security considerations. Here's a view of the 
diffs:
https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-alvarez-pce-path-profiles-04.txt 
Your comments are welcome. Thanks.
Cheers.

SA
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> From: internet-dra...@ietf.org [mailto:internet-dra...@ietf.org]
> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 9:21 PM
> To: Luis Tomotaki; Siva Sivabalan (msiva); Jeff Tantsura; Siva
> Sivabalan (msiva); Rob Shakir; Santiago Alvarez (saalvare); Rob Shakir;
> Zafar Ali (zali); Victor Lopez; Zafar Ali (zali); Luis Tomotaki; Victor
> Lopez; Santiago Alvarez (saalvare); Jeff Tantsura
> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-alvarez-pce-path-profiles-
> 04.txt
> 
> 
> A new version of I-D, draft-alvarez-pce-path-profiles-04.txt
> has been successfully submitted by Santiago Alvarez and posted to the
> IETF repository.
> 
> Name: draft-alvarez-pce-path-profiles
> Revision: 04
> Title:PCE Path Profiles
> Document date:2014-11-07
> Group:Individual Submission
> Pages:13
> URL:http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-alvarez-pce-
> path-profiles-04.txt
> Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-alvarez-pce-
> path-profiles/
> Htmlized:   http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-alvarez-pce-path-
> profiles-04
> Diff:   http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-alvarez-pce-
> path-profiles-04
> 
> Abstract:
>This document describes extensions to the Path Computation Element
>(PCE) Communication Protocol (PCEP) to signal path profile
>identifiers.  A profile represents a list of path parameters or
>policies that a PCEP peer may invoke on a remote peer using an
> opaque
>identifier.  When a path computation client (PCC) initiates a path
>computation request, the PCC can signal profile identifiers to
> invoke
>path parameters or policies defined on the PCE which would influence
>the path computation.  Similarly, when a PCE initiates or updates a
>path, the PCE can signal profile identifiers to invoke path
>parameters or policies defined on the PCC which would influence the
>path setup.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Pce] WG Last Call on draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-app-02 and draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-09

2014-11-10 Thread Cyril Margaria
Hi,

For the error handling on PCUpd, and instantiation draft, I think it would
be usefull to align the error procedures and capabilities.
in draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-10 the error is returned via PCRpt,
for the same kind of error its returned using a PCErr in
draft-ietf-pce-pce-initiated-lsp-02 ( error-type 24 (LSP instantiation
error) , error-value =1 (Unacceptable instantiation parameter) )

It would mean moving the definition  from instantion to stateful and
changing the type of error for one specific error type, this is not a too
big change,

BR
Cyril




On 27 October 2014 03:57, Cyril Margaria  wrote:

> Hi Ina,
>
> Thanks, see inline for the open points.
>
> On 27 October 2014 01:57, Ina Minei  wrote:
>
>> Thank you for the careful review, please see inline ###.
>>
>> [snip]
>>> I Have the following comment for draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-09:
>>>
>>> Section 2
>>> The document references the following timers:
>>>- State Timeout Interval
>>>- Redelegation Timeout Interval
>>>
>>> RFC5440 defines an Appendix B. PCEP Variables, having a dedicated section
>>> for those variables would be better, as they are integral part of the
>>> extensions.
>>>
>>
>> ### They are discussed in the main part of the draft, their use etc is
>> introduced as early as page 4 of the doc. The suggested values for these
>> timers are added in the operational section in the appendix, where they
>> logically belong and I don't think we want to move them.
>>
>
> I think it will be easier for YANG/MIB module designers to have a small
> appendix for those, with recommended values repeated there. The rest of the
> document does not need to  be changed in that regards.
>
>
>
>>
>>>
>>> Section 5.4
>>>
>>> After the first paragraph, add:
>>> The State synchronization start with a LSP state report having the SYNC
>>> Flag in the LSP Object set to 1.
>>>
>>> Reason: This would allow for the PCC to fully resend its database after
>>> the Initialization phase, and clarify the PCE operation.
>>>
>>
>> ### This is covered in the current text and also clearly shown in figure
>> 1. .
>>
>
> It is implicit in the text,, I think making it explicit would be better
> for implementations.
>
>
>>
>>>
>>> Section 5.6.2
>>> OLD
>>> If the PCC decides that the LSP parameters proposed in the PCUpd message
>>> are unacceptable, it MUST report this error by including the
>>> LSP-ERROR-CODE TLV (Section 7.3.3
>>> <
>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-09#section-7.3.3
>>> >)
>>> with LSP error-value=³Unacceptable parameters" in the LSP object in the
>>> PCRpt message to the PCE
>>>
>>> NEW
>>> If the PCC decides that the LSP parameters proposed in the PCUpd message
>>> are unacceptable, it MUST report this error by including the
>>> LSP-ERROR-CODE TLV (Section 7.3.3
>>> <
>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-stateful-pce-09#section-7.3.3
>>> >)
>>> with LSP error-value=³Unacceptable parameters" in the LSP object in the
>>> PCRpt message to the PCE. The PCC MAY/SHOULD include the objects that
>>> were
>>> not accepted in the PCRpt message.
>>>
>>>
>>> Reason: If the PCC includes the objects (current PCC values) that caused
>>> the PCUpd to be rejected, it would help the PCE avoid resending them. A
>>> PCErr would allow to include the objects, a new error type would be
>>> needed
>>> but error handling from PCE side should be rather easy. Another
>>> possibility is having the LSP-ERROR-CODE containing a list of
>>> Object-Class, OT .
>>>
>>> ### While I agree in principle, I think if we go down this road we
>> should also include the reason
>> why the object was rejected to make this useful. Unless others feel
>> strongly, I would not add this.
>>
>
> I think having the mechanism would be aldready usefull with existing error
> messages.
> Having WG feedback in also welcomed.
>
>
>
>>
>> Section 7.3.
>>> Nits: Using Synchronize would be better aligned with other bits
>>> definition
>>>
>>> S bit: Add: On PCUpd the R flag SHOULD (MUST?) be set to 0 on
>>> transmission
>>> and MUST be ignored on receipt.
>>>
>>
>>
>>> R bit: Add: On PCUpd the R flag SHOULD (MUST?) be set to 0 on
>>> transmission
>>> and MUST be ignored on receipt
>>>   (or it is allowed on PCUpd?)
>>>
>> O bit: Add: On PCUpd the O Field SHOULD (MUST?) be set to 0 on
>>> transmission and MUST be ignored on receipt.
>>>
>>
>> ### This would preclude use of these bits in future documents, so  I
>> prefer not to add this.
>>
>
> Reserved bit are usually defined as follows  "Unassigned bits are
> considered reserved. They MUST be set to zero on transmission and MUST be
> ignored on receipt."
>
> So restricting those values on PCUpd in this document does not preclude
> another document indicating how to use them when supporting that other
> document (It will be likely negotiated). Moreover this allows the new
> defining document to make sure that those bits have a specific value when
> using the stateful document.
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>> Section 7.3.3.
>>>   Th

Re: [Pce] FW: New Version Notification for draft-alvarez-pce-path-profiles-04.txt

2014-11-10 Thread Tarek Saad (tsaad)
Hi authors,

Currently, the document proposes a numbered-based ID for the profiles. The
name-based IDs are in practice more favourable in deployment (an example
is the symbolic name for PCE instantiated LSP).
Do you plan to extend the PATH-PROFILE object to carry textual based IDs?
Also, it would be useful to clarify the scope of the PP IDs-- e.g. between
PCEP peer pairs, or global across the network/PCEs..
For example, upon (re)delegation of LSPs from a PCE to alternate PCE, is
the expectation that such PP-IDs can change?

Regards,
Tarek

On 2014-11-10, 8:19 AM, "Santiago Alvarez (saalvare)" 
wrote:

>Folks,
>
>We've submitted a new version of draft-alvarez-pce-path-profiles.  Based
>on previous feedback, we've added details on motivation and some
>introductory text.  We've also added text on security considerations.
>Here's a view of the diffs:
>https://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-alvarez-pce-path-profiles-04.txt
> 
>Your comments are welcome. Thanks.
>Cheers.
>
>SA
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>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: internet-dra...@ietf.org [mailto:internet-dra...@ietf.org]
>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 9:21 PM
>> To: Luis Tomotaki; Siva Sivabalan (msiva); Jeff Tantsura; Siva
>> Sivabalan (msiva); Rob Shakir; Santiago Alvarez (saalvare); Rob Shakir;
>> Zafar Ali (zali); Victor Lopez; Zafar Ali (zali); Luis Tomotaki; Victor
>> Lopez; Santiago Alvarez (saalvare); Jeff Tantsura
>> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-alvarez-pce-path-profiles-
>> 04.txt
>> 
>> 
>> A new version of I-D, draft-alvarez-pce-path-profiles-04.txt
>> has been successfully submitted by Santiago Alvarez and posted to the
>> IETF repository.
>> 
>> Name:draft-alvarez-pce-path-profiles
>> Revision:04
>> Title:   PCE Path Profiles
>> Document date:   2014-11-07
>> Group:   Individual Submission
>> Pages:   13
>> URL:http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-alvarez-pce-
>> path-profiles-04.txt
>> Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-alvarez-pce-
>> path-profiles/
>> Htmlized:   http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-alvarez-pce-path-
>> profiles-04
>> Diff:   http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-alvarez-pce-
>> path-profiles-04
>> 
>> Abstract:
>>This document describes extensions to the Path Computation Element
>>(PCE) Communication Protocol (PCEP) to signal path profile
>>identifiers.  A profile represents a list of path parameters or
>>policies that a PCEP peer may invoke on a remote peer using an
>> opaque
>>identifier.  When a path computation client (PCC) initiates a path
>>computation request, the PCC can signal profile identifiers to
>> invoke
>>path parameters or policies defined on the PCE which would influence
>>the path computation.  Similarly, when a PCE initiates or updates a
>>path, the PCE can signal profile identifiers to invoke path
>>parameters or policies defined on the PCC which would influence the
>>path setup.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
>> submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at
>> tools.ietf.org.
>> 
>> The IETF Secretariat
>
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