Re: [Pce] Scoping Items from draft-koldychev-pce-operational

2022-09-29 Thread Mike Koldychev (mkoldych)
I prefer option A as well.

1) The original intent of the document was to make interop easier: sometimes by 
clarifying things and sometimes by tweaking the standard. Having two documents 
for one intent is just going to lead to more paperwork IMHO. 

2) The proposed updates to the PCEP standard are not "major" updates.

3) The line between updating the standard vs clarifying the standard can be 
blurry in some cases.

Thanks,
Mike.

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From: Pce  On Behalf Of Stone, Andrew (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
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To: julien.meu...@orange.com; pce@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Pce] Scoping Items from draft-koldychev-pce-operational

Hi PCE Chairs, PCE WG:

Prefer option A - single document with both contents covered, ideally with 
appropriate wording or sections for the two types of content. 

As mentioned in the last WG session, I see the document as a valuable 
implementation interop checkpoint for various PCE implementations. In this 
situation, having both types of content (some of which can be a bit of a gray 
definition of update vs inform) consolidated in one document makes it simpler 
to digest that converged view. 

Thanks
Andrew

On 2022-09-29, 4:37 AM, "Pce on behalf of julien.meu...@orange.com" 
 wrote:

Dear PCE WG,

Let's follow up on the discussion started during IETF 114 about 
draft-koldychev-pce-operational [1]. The I-D currently tackles different 
issues about PCEP, some of them being informational, some other updating 
existing PCEP specifications. Among the options we discussed to proceed 
with this work, 2 remain:
1. Keep a single draft, but clearly separate the two types of content;
2. Break it up into 2 drafts.

We'd like to hear the WG's opinion whether you prefer:
a- a single standard track I-D, with both content types sharing fate 
until publication?
b- a clarification I-D on informational track + an I-D updating PCEP on 
standard track (possibly progressing at different paces)?

Please share your feedback using the PCE mailing list.

Thanks,

Dhruv & Julien


[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-koldychev-pce-operational/



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Re: [Pce] Scoping Items from draft-koldychev-pce-operational

2022-09-29 Thread Stone, Andrew (Nokia - CA/Ottawa)
Hi PCE Chairs, PCE WG:

Prefer option A - single document with both contents covered, ideally with 
appropriate wording or sections for the two types of content. 

As mentioned in the last WG session, I see the document as a valuable 
implementation interop checkpoint for various PCE implementations. In this 
situation, having both types of content (some of which can be a bit of a gray 
definition of update vs inform) consolidated in one document makes it simpler 
to digest that converged view. 

Thanks
Andrew

On 2022-09-29, 4:37 AM, "Pce on behalf of julien.meu...@orange.com" 
 wrote:

Dear PCE WG,

Let's follow up on the discussion started during IETF 114 about 
draft-koldychev-pce-operational [1]. The I-D currently tackles different 
issues about PCEP, some of them being informational, some other updating 
existing PCEP specifications. Among the options we discussed to proceed 
with this work, 2 remain:
1. Keep a single draft, but clearly separate the two types of content;
2. Break it up into 2 drafts.

We'd like to hear the WG's opinion whether you prefer:
a- a single standard track I-D, with both content types sharing fate 
until publication?
b- a clarification I-D on informational track + an I-D updating PCEP on 
standard track (possibly progressing at different paces)?

Please share your feedback using the PCE mailing list.

Thanks,

Dhruv & Julien


[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-koldychev-pce-operational/



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[Pce] Last Call: (Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) extensions for establishing relationships between sets of Label Switched Paths and Virtu

2022-09-29 Thread The IESG


The IESG has received a request from the Path Computation Element WG (pce) to
consider the following document: - 'Path Computation Element Communication
Protocol (PCEP) extensions for
   establishing relationships between sets of Label Switched Paths and
   Virtual Networks'
   as Proposed Standard

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
last-c...@ietf.org mailing lists by 2022-10-13. Exceptionally, comments may
be sent to i...@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning
of the Subject line to allow automated sorting.

Abstract


   This document describes how to extend the Path Computation Element
   (PCE) Communication Protocol (PCEP) association mechanism introduced
   by the PCEP Association Group specification, to further associate
   sets of Label Switched Paths (LSPs) with a higher-level structure
   such as a Virtual Network (VN) requested by a customer or
   application.  This extended association mechanism can be used to
   facilitate control of virtual network using the PCE architecture.




The file can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pce-vn-association/


The following IPR Declarations may be related to this I-D:

   https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3329/






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[Pce] Scoping Items from draft-koldychev-pce-operational

2022-09-29 Thread julien.meuric

Dear PCE WG,

Let's follow up on the discussion started during IETF 114 about 
draft-koldychev-pce-operational [1]. The I-D currently tackles different 
issues about PCEP, some of them being informational, some other updating 
existing PCEP specifications. Among the options we discussed to proceed 
with this work, 2 remain:

1. Keep a single draft, but clearly separate the two types of content;
2. Break it up into 2 drafts.

We'd like to hear the WG's opinion whether you prefer:
a- a single standard track I-D, with both content types sharing fate 
until publication?
b- a clarification I-D on informational track + an I-D updating PCEP on 
standard track (possibly progressing at different paces)?


Please share your feedback using the PCE mailing list.

Thanks,

Dhruv & Julien


[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-koldychev-pce-operational/




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