Re: [PD-dev] run-up to release 0.43

2010-08-31 Thread András Murányi
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:02 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 That's a bug in the command line flag parsing, you should file a bug
 report.  IMHO, the whole flag parser should be rewritten using on of the
 standard opt/flag parsing libraries.  getopt is in libc but is more
 limited, I am sure there is a GNU parser that handles -s short and
 --long options well.


http://sourceforge.net/projects/argopt/ (inactive project, wonder if it's
usable yet)
http://directory.fsf.org/project/popt/ (x11 licence)
i don't know is this is serious enough: http://wiki.tcl.tk/22050

Andras
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Re: [PD-dev] run-up to release 0.43

2010-08-31 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 22:04 +0200, András Murányi wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:02 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner
 h...@at.or.at wrote:
 
 That's a bug in the command line flag parsing, you should file
 a bug
 report.  IMHO, the whole flag parser should be rewritten using
 on of the
 standard opt/flag parsing libraries.  getopt is in libc but is
 more
 limited, I am sure there is a GNU parser that handles -s short
 and
 --long options well.
 
 
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/argopt/ (inactive project, wonder if
 it's usable yet)
 http://directory.fsf.org/project/popt/ (x11 licence)
 i don't know is this is serious enough: http://wiki.tcl.tk/22050 

Well, we'd want it to be something that is already widely deployed, like
something in GNU libc or POSIX.  popt looks pretty well used, at least
on Debian/Ubuntu, but I think getopt() and getopt_long() are just about
everywhere by default now.

.hc



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Re: [PD-dev] run-up to release 0.43

2010-08-30 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

That's a bug in the command line flag parsing, you should file a bug
report.  IMHO, the whole flag parser should be rewritten using on of the
standard opt/flag parsing libraries.  getopt is in libc but is more
limited, I am sure there is a GNU parser that handles -s short and
--long options well.

.hc

On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 12:34 +0200, cyrille henry wrote:
 hello,
 
 i've got a new problem with this test version.
 yesterday, i add -font-face andale mono in pd startup preference.
 now, when i try to open this preference dialog, i have this error :
 
 (Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: extra characters after close-quote
  while executing
 pdtk_startup_dialog .gfxstuba0f0fd0 0 -listdev -mididev 1,2,3,4 -font-face 
 andale mono -noautopatch -rt -alsa -alsaadd default -audiooutdev 3
 
  (uplevel body line 5)
  invoked from within
 uplevel #0 $cmd_from_pd
 
 cheers
 cyrille
 
 
 
 Le 19/08/2010 02:06, Miller Puckette a écrit :
  Hi all,
 
  I have only 2 weeks left in the vicinity of my usual collection of testing
  machines (will be in New York Sept 1 - Jan. 1!) and so should probably
  try to get 0.43 finalized.  I have several bugs to work on but I think the
  whole thing is ready to put out compiled test versions for people to
  exercise.
 
  I'll try not to add new features but just fix bugs for the next 2 weeks --
  I'll have all fall for the next bunch of features (including, perhaps, the
  ones I've been trying to find time to work on).
 
  I'll do my usual compiling and spot testing, hopefully putting out the
  test versions within the next day.
 
  cheers
  Miller
 
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Re: [PD-dev] run-up to release 0.43

2010-08-26 Thread cyrille henry

hello,

i've got a new problem with this test version.
yesterday, i add -font-face andale mono in pd startup preference.
now, when i try to open this preference dialog, i have this error :

(Tcl) UNHANDLED ERROR: extra characters after close-quote
while executing
pdtk_startup_dialog .gfxstuba0f0fd0 0 -listdev -mididev 1,2,3,4 -font-face andale 
mono -noautopatch -rt -alsa -alsaadd default -audiooutdev 3

(uplevel body line 5)
invoked from within
uplevel #0 $cmd_from_pd

cheers
cyrille



Le 19/08/2010 02:06, Miller Puckette a écrit :

Hi all,

I have only 2 weeks left in the vicinity of my usual collection of testing
machines (will be in New York Sept 1 - Jan. 1!) and so should probably
try to get 0.43 finalized.  I have several bugs to work on but I think the
whole thing is ready to put out compiled test versions for people to
exercise.

I'll try not to add new features but just fix bugs for the next 2 weeks --
I'll have all fall for the next bunch of features (including, perhaps, the
ones I've been trying to find time to work on).

I'll do my usual compiling and spot testing, hopefully putting out the
test versions within the next day.

cheers
Miller

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Re: [PD-dev] run-up to release 0.43

2010-08-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes


--- On Fri, 8/20/10, Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Matt Barber brbrof...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [PD-dev] run-up to release 0.43
 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
 Cc: pd-dev@iem.at
 Date: Friday, August 20, 2010, 5:59 PM
 
  As for [initbang] - my only use has been for making
 abstractions that
  can spawn a variable number of inlets/outlets. 
 That's the only way
  I've used it and the only way I've ever seen it used--
 if there are
  other uses maybe someone else on this list can give an
 example.
 
  The [initbang] object gives abstractions
  the ability to do something that otherwise would only
 be possible by
  coding an external in another programming language. 
 For example,
  with [initbang] I can quickly make an abstraction that
 can act like
  Max/MSP's [trigger] object-- where you can specify
 numeric values as
  arguments ( like [trigger b 0] ).
 
 
 In other words, you want Pd to include meta capabilities
 enough that
 abstractions have all the functionality of coded
 objects.  [initbang]
 would be one step in this direction, but there would be at
 least these
 other requirements:

I'm interested in that, too, but the main reason I ask about 
[initbang] is because its patch has been sitting there on Sourceforge 
since 2006, and has been used in Pd-ext since then (and I haven't found 
any bugs so far with it) but not in Vanilla.  If you do as the 
Sourceforge comments suggest and search the archives you'll not only 
find reasons for why the object is needed as I've suggested here, but 
also requests by developers (including yourself, I think) for the object 
to be included as an internal Pd object.

To make a max-compatible [trigger] I don't need any of the other meta-features 
you mention (which are good ideas).  I just need 
[initbang].  It only has one outlet, and I've never needed more than one 
in an abstraction.  So if future-[loadbang]-with-args were implemented 
tomorrow I'd just need to change one object for my max-compatible 
[trigger] to work across all Pd versions.

-Jonathan


  

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Re: [PD-dev] run-up to release 0.43

2010-08-21 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 08/19/2010 02:06 AM, Miller Puckette wrote:
 
 I'll try not to add new features but just fix bugs for the next 2 weeks --

here is one bug (+ fix): pd -version prints garbage.

https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=3050371group_id=55736atid=478072


mgfasdr
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Re: [PD-dev] run-up to release 0.43

2010-08-21 Thread IOhannes zmölnig
On 08/21/2010 06:32 PM, IOhannes zmölnig wrote:
 On 08/19/2010 02:06 AM, Miller Puckette wrote:

 I'll try not to add new features but just fix bugs for the next 2 weeks --
 
 here is one bug

and of course there are several simple bugfixes still pending in the
tracker:

e.g.
2806049: [bugfix] renamed arrays do not get used by dsp
2835752: floor, ceil functions in expr misdeclared

those are really simple, about 2 lines code each.

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