Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended
Yes, I think working in the SVN directly there makes a lot of sense. Please commit there directly, if that works for you. .hc On Nov 16, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > I meant puredata.info, as in the tcl file I uploaded there. > > I should delete that now and just make changes through > svn, right? > > -Jonathan > > - Original Message - >> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >> To: Jonathan Wilkes >> Cc: "pd-dev@iem.at List" >> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 12:17 PM >> Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended >> >> >> What's the pd.info stuff? >> >> .hc >> >> On Nov 16, 2012, at 12:42 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >>> >>> But how do I keep the pd.info stuff in sync with your changes? >>> >>> -Jonathan >>> >>> >>> - Original Message ----- >>> >>>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >>>> To: Jonathan Wilkes >>>> Cc: "pd-dev@iem.at List" >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 10:07 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended >>>> >>>> >>>> I just checked in some changes to search-plugin to try the translation >> stuff. >>>> First, I added [_ ""] to most of the strings there. The rest >> I left >>>> because >>>> they'll need a little more work. Then I added a 'po' >> folder with a >>>> Makefile >>>> to generate the translations. I mostly did this to have a dev >> environment for >>>> trying out having translation support for plugins. >>>> >>>> .hc >>>> >>>> On 11/15/2012 07:14 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >>>>> Here's an initial re-refactoring back to the plugin interface: >>>>> https://puredata.info/Members/jancsika/browser2.0plugin/view >>>>> >>>>> Don't use this one yet, because I have some more changes to >>>>> make based on the following question: >>>>> 1) How do I remove the old helpbrowser entry from the >>>>> "Help" menu from inside my plugin? >>>>> >>>>> That way the new helpbrowser will show up for new users, along >>>>> with an accelerator , without disturbing old grumps >> and >>>>> their browser. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Jonathan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - Original Message - >>>>>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >>>>>> To: Jonathan Wilkes >>>>>> Cc: "pd-dev@iem.at List" >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 9:36 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> For Pd-extended, I'd much rather keep it as a plugin than >> make it >>>> an >>>>>> internal >>>>>> file. I think it will be much easier for you to work on the >> search >>>> plugin if >>>>>> it stays as a plugin. If its a plugin that's included in >>>> Pd-extended, it >>>>>> can >>>>>> be upgraded by the user by just dropping a new version into >>>> ~/pd-externals. >>>>>> The dev process will be easier too, since updates won't >> have to go >>>> thru the >>>>>> patch tracker to be accepted into pd-extended.git. >>>>>> >>>>>> For Vanilla, you'll have to ask Miller. I think this same >> approach >>>> could >>>>>> work >>>>>> for vanilla too with the same advantages. All that Miller >> would need >>>> to do to >>>>>> include it is check in the search-plugin into pd/extra/ >>>>>> >>>>>> .hc >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11/15/2012 01:45 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >>>>>>>I already did substantial work on the drop-in replacement >> for the >>>>>>>helpbrowser based on the feedback I got. I had no idea >> the >>>>>>>gui-plugin infrastructure was ready to ship actual >> plugins running >>>>>>>by default in pd-extended. >>>>&g
Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended
Here's an initial re-refactoring back to the plugin interface: https://puredata.info/Members/jancsika/browser2.0plugin/view Don't use this one yet, because I have some more changes to make based on the following question: 1) How do I remove the old helpbrowser entry from the "Help" menu from inside my plugin? That way the new helpbrowser will show up for new users, along with an accelerator , without disturbing old grumps and their browser. -Jonathan - Original Message - > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > To: Jonathan Wilkes > Cc: "pd-dev@iem.at List" > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 9:36 AM > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended > > > For Pd-extended, I'd much rather keep it as a plugin than make it an > internal > file. I think it will be much easier for you to work on the search plugin if > it stays as a plugin. If its a plugin that's included in Pd-extended, it > can > be upgraded by the user by just dropping a new version into ~/pd-externals. > The dev process will be easier too, since updates won't have to go thru the > patch tracker to be accepted into pd-extended.git. > > For Vanilla, you'll have to ask Miller. I think this same approach could > work > for vanilla too with the same advantages. All that Miller would need to do to > include it is check in the search-plugin into pd/extra/ > > .hc > > On 11/15/2012 01:45 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >> I already did substantial work on the drop-in replacement for the >> helpbrowser based on the feedback I got. I had no idea the >> gui-plugin infrastructure was ready to ship actual plugins running >> by default in pd-extended. >> >> -Jonathan >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message - >>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >>> To: "pd-dev@iem.at List" >>> Cc: >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:31 PM >>> Subject: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended >>> >>> >>> Hey Jonathan, >>> >>> I committed your latest search-plugin.tcl into >>> scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, overwriting my original, simple one. > I put >>> it there because I'm adding it to Pd-extended. I think it makes > sense to >>> just >>> include your plugin directly rather than as a remixed helpbrowser.tcl. > I also >>> just committed a check that makes sure that pd-gui doesn't try to > load a >>> plugin that has already been loaded. That way when you make new version > of the >>> search plugin, people can just drop it into ~/pd-externals and > it'll >>> override >>> the built-in search-plugin.tcl. >>> >>> As for scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, feel free to take that over > and do >>> whatever you want with it. I can't see a reason to keep the old > one around >>> any more, your search plugin is very thorough. >>> >>> .hc >>> >>> ___ >>> Pd-dev mailing list >>> Pd-dev@iem.at >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev >>> > ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev
Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended
I just checked in some changes to search-plugin to try the translation stuff. First, I added [_ ""] to most of the strings there. The rest I left because they'll need a little more work. Then I added a 'po' folder with a Makefile to generate the translations. I mostly did this to have a dev environment for trying out having translation support for plugins. .hc On 11/15/2012 07:14 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > Here's an initial re-refactoring back to the plugin interface: > https://puredata.info/Members/jancsika/browser2.0plugin/view > > Don't use this one yet, because I have some more changes to > make based on the following question: > 1) How do I remove the old helpbrowser entry from the > "Help" menu from inside my plugin? > > That way the new helpbrowser will show up for new users, along > with an accelerator , without disturbing old grumps and > their browser. > > > -Jonathan > > > > - Original Message - >> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >> To: Jonathan Wilkes >> Cc: "pd-dev@iem.at List" >> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 9:36 AM >> Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended >> >> >> For Pd-extended, I'd much rather keep it as a plugin than make it an >> internal >> file. I think it will be much easier for you to work on the search plugin if >> it stays as a plugin. If its a plugin that's included in Pd-extended, it >> can >> be upgraded by the user by just dropping a new version into ~/pd-externals. >> The dev process will be easier too, since updates won't have to go thru the >> patch tracker to be accepted into pd-extended.git. >> >> For Vanilla, you'll have to ask Miller. I think this same approach could >> work >> for vanilla too with the same advantages. All that Miller would need to do >> to >> include it is check in the search-plugin into pd/extra/ >> >> .hc >> >> On 11/15/2012 01:45 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >>> I already did substantial work on the drop-in replacement for the >>> helpbrowser based on the feedback I got. I had no idea the >>> gui-plugin infrastructure was ready to ship actual plugins running >>> by default in pd-extended. >>> >>> -Jonathan >>> >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >>>> To: "pd-dev@iem.at List" >>>> Cc: >>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:31 PM >>>> Subject: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended >>>> >>>> >>>> Hey Jonathan, >>>> >>>> I committed your latest search-plugin.tcl into >>>> scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, overwriting my original, simple one. >> I put >>>> it there because I'm adding it to Pd-extended. I think it makes >> sense to >>>> just >>>> include your plugin directly rather than as a remixed helpbrowser.tcl. >> I also >>>> just committed a check that makes sure that pd-gui doesn't try to >> load a >>>> plugin that has already been loaded. That way when you make new version >> of the >>>> search plugin, people can just drop it into ~/pd-externals and >> it'll >>>> override >>>> the built-in search-plugin.tcl. >>>> >>>> As for scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, feel free to take that over >> and do >>>> whatever you want with it. I can't see a reason to keep the old >> one around >>>> any more, your search plugin is very thorough. >>>> >>>> .hc >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Pd-dev mailing list >>>> Pd-dev@iem.at >>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev >>>> >> ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev
Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended
For the Pd-extended 0.43 release, I want to keep the old help browser on the Help menu. Then later, I think it can be removed. Makes for an easier transition, IMHO. As for removing menu items, there is a menu command that can do that. .hc On 11/15/2012 07:14 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > Here's an initial re-refactoring back to the plugin interface: > https://puredata.info/Members/jancsika/browser2.0plugin/view > > Don't use this one yet, because I have some more changes to > make based on the following question: > 1) How do I remove the old helpbrowser entry from the > "Help" menu from inside my plugin? > > That way the new helpbrowser will show up for new users, along > with an accelerator , without disturbing old grumps and > their browser. > > > -Jonathan > > > > - Original Message - >> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >> To: Jonathan Wilkes >> Cc: "pd-dev@iem.at List" >> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 9:36 AM >> Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended >> >> >> For Pd-extended, I'd much rather keep it as a plugin than make it an >> internal >> file. I think it will be much easier for you to work on the search plugin if >> it stays as a plugin. If its a plugin that's included in Pd-extended, it >> can >> be upgraded by the user by just dropping a new version into ~/pd-externals. >> The dev process will be easier too, since updates won't have to go thru the >> patch tracker to be accepted into pd-extended.git. >> >> For Vanilla, you'll have to ask Miller. I think this same approach could >> work >> for vanilla too with the same advantages. All that Miller would need to do >> to >> include it is check in the search-plugin into pd/extra/ >> >> .hc >> >> On 11/15/2012 01:45 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >>> I already did substantial work on the drop-in replacement for the >>> helpbrowser based on the feedback I got. I had no idea the >>> gui-plugin infrastructure was ready to ship actual plugins running >>> by default in pd-extended. >>> >>> -Jonathan >>> >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >>>> To: "pd-dev@iem.at List" >>>> Cc: >>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:31 PM >>>> Subject: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended >>>> >>>> >>>> Hey Jonathan, >>>> >>>> I committed your latest search-plugin.tcl into >>>> scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, overwriting my original, simple one. >> I put >>>> it there because I'm adding it to Pd-extended. I think it makes >> sense to >>>> just >>>> include your plugin directly rather than as a remixed helpbrowser.tcl. >> I also >>>> just committed a check that makes sure that pd-gui doesn't try to >> load a >>>> plugin that has already been loaded. That way when you make new version >> of the >>>> search plugin, people can just drop it into ~/pd-externals and >> it'll >>>> override >>>> the built-in search-plugin.tcl. >>>> >>>> As for scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, feel free to take that over >> and do >>>> whatever you want with it. I can't see a reason to keep the old >> one around >>>> any more, your search plugin is very thorough. >>>> >>>> .hc >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Pd-dev mailing list >>>> Pd-dev@iem.at >>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev >>>> >> ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev
Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended
- Original Message - > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > To: Jonathan Wilkes > Cc: "pd-dev@iem.at List" > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 10:07 PM > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended > > > I just checked in some changes to search-plugin to try the translation stuff. > First, I added [_ ""] to most of the strings there. The rest I left > because > they'll need a little more work. Then I added a 'po' folder with a > Makefile > to generate the translations. I mostly did this to have a dev environment for > trying out having translation support for plugins. But how do I keep the pd.info stuff in sync with your changes? -Jonathan > > .hc > > On 11/15/2012 07:14 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >> Here's an initial re-refactoring back to the plugin interface: >> https://puredata.info/Members/jancsika/browser2.0plugin/view >> >> Don't use this one yet, because I have some more changes to >> make based on the following question: >> 1) How do I remove the old helpbrowser entry from the >> "Help" menu from inside my plugin? >> >> That way the new helpbrowser will show up for new users, along >> with an accelerator , without disturbing old grumps and >> their browser. >> >> >> -Jonathan >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >>> To: Jonathan Wilkes >>> Cc: "pd-dev@iem.at List" >>> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 9:36 AM >>> Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended >>> >>> >>> For Pd-extended, I'd much rather keep it as a plugin than make it > an >>> internal >>> file. I think it will be much easier for you to work on the search > plugin if >>> it stays as a plugin. If its a plugin that's included in > Pd-extended, it >>> can >>> be upgraded by the user by just dropping a new version into > ~/pd-externals. >>> The dev process will be easier too, since updates won't have to go > thru the >>> patch tracker to be accepted into pd-extended.git. >>> >>> For Vanilla, you'll have to ask Miller. I think this same approach > could >>> work >>> for vanilla too with the same advantages. All that Miller would need > to do to >>> include it is check in the search-plugin into pd/extra/ >>> >>> .hc >>> >>> On 11/15/2012 01:45 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >>>> I already did substantial work on the drop-in replacement for the >>>> helpbrowser based on the feedback I got. I had no idea the >>>> gui-plugin infrastructure was ready to ship actual plugins running >>>> by default in pd-extended. >>>> >>>> -Jonathan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> - Original Message - >>>>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >>>>> To: "pd-dev@iem.at List" >>>>> Cc: >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:31 PM >>>>> Subject: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hey Jonathan, >>>>> >>>>> I committed your latest search-plugin.tcl into >>>>> scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, overwriting my original, > simple one. >>> I put >>>>> it there because I'm adding it to Pd-extended. I think it > makes >>> sense to >>>>> just >>>>> include your plugin directly rather than as a remixed > helpbrowser.tcl. >>> I also >>>>> just committed a check that makes sure that pd-gui doesn't > try to >>> load a >>>>> plugin that has already been loaded. That way when you make > new version >>> of the >>>>> search plugin, people can just drop it into ~/pd-externals and > >>> it'll >>>>> override >>>>> the built-in search-plugin.tcl. >>>>> >>>>> As for scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, feel free to take > that over >>> and do >>>>> whatever you want with it. I can't see a reason to keep > the old >>> one around >>>>> any more, your search plugin is very thorough. >>>>> >>>>> .hc >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> Pd-dev mailing list >>>>> Pd-dev@iem.at >>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev >>>>> >>> > ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev
Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended
- Original Message - > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > To: Jonathan Wilkes > Cc: "pd-dev@iem.at List" > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 8:59 PM > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended > > > For the Pd-extended 0.43 release, I want to keep the old help browser on the > Help menu. Then later, I think it can be removed. Makes for an easier > transition, IMHO. Ok, that should work then because I'm not stealing it yet. It just says "Browser2.0" in the Help menu below it. :) -Jonathan > > As for removing menu items, there is a menu command that can do that. > > .hc > > On 11/15/2012 07:14 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >> Here's an initial re-refactoring back to the plugin interface: >> https://puredata.info/Members/jancsika/browser2.0plugin/view >> >> Don't use this one yet, because I have some more changes to >> make based on the following question: >> 1) How do I remove the old helpbrowser entry from the >> "Help" menu from inside my plugin? >> >> That way the new helpbrowser will show up for new users, along >> with an accelerator , without disturbing old grumps and >> their browser. >> >> >> -Jonathan >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >>> To: Jonathan Wilkes >>> Cc: "pd-dev@iem.at List" >>> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 9:36 AM >>> Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended >>> >>> >>> For Pd-extended, I'd much rather keep it as a plugin than make it > an >>> internal >>> file. I think it will be much easier for you to work on the search > plugin if >>> it stays as a plugin. If its a plugin that's included in > Pd-extended, it >>> can >>> be upgraded by the user by just dropping a new version into > ~/pd-externals. >>> The dev process will be easier too, since updates won't have to go > thru the >>> patch tracker to be accepted into pd-extended.git. >>> >>> For Vanilla, you'll have to ask Miller. I think this same approach > could >>> work >>> for vanilla too with the same advantages. All that Miller would need > to do to >>> include it is check in the search-plugin into pd/extra/ >>> >>> .hc >>> >>> On 11/15/2012 01:45 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >>>> I already did substantial work on the drop-in replacement for the >>>> helpbrowser based on the feedback I got. I had no idea the >>>> gui-plugin infrastructure was ready to ship actual plugins running >>>> by default in pd-extended. >>>> >>>> -Jonathan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> - Original Message - >>>>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >>>>> To: "pd-dev@iem.at List" >>>>> Cc: >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:31 PM >>>>> Subject: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hey Jonathan, >>>>> >>>>> I committed your latest search-plugin.tcl into >>>>> scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, overwriting my original, > simple one. >>> I put >>>>> it there because I'm adding it to Pd-extended. I think it > makes >>> sense to >>>>> just >>>>> include your plugin directly rather than as a remixed > helpbrowser.tcl. >>> I also >>>>> just committed a check that makes sure that pd-gui doesn't > try to >>> load a >>>>> plugin that has already been loaded. That way when you make > new version >>> of the >>>>> search plugin, people can just drop it into ~/pd-externals and > >>> it'll >>>>> override >>>>> the built-in search-plugin.tcl. >>>>> >>>>> As for scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, feel free to take > that over >>> and do >>>>> whatever you want with it. I can't see a reason to keep > the old >>> one around >>>>> any more, your search plugin is very thorough. >>>>> >>>>> .hc >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> Pd-dev mailing list >>>>> Pd-dev@iem.at >>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev >>>>> >>> > ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev
Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended
I meant puredata.info, as in the tcl file I uploaded there. I should delete that now and just make changes through svn, right? -Jonathan - Original Message - > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > To: Jonathan Wilkes > Cc: "pd-dev@iem.at List" > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 12:17 PM > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended > > > What's the pd.info stuff? > > .hc > > On Nov 16, 2012, at 12:42 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >> >> But how do I keep the pd.info stuff in sync with your changes? >> >> -Jonathan >> >> >> - Original Message - >> >>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >>> To: Jonathan Wilkes >>> Cc: "pd-dev@iem.at List" >>> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 10:07 PM >>> Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended >>> >>> >>> I just checked in some changes to search-plugin to try the translation > stuff. >>> First, I added [_ ""] to most of the strings there. The rest > I left >>> because >>> they'll need a little more work. Then I added a 'po' > folder with a >>> Makefile >>> to generate the translations. I mostly did this to have a dev > environment for >>> trying out having translation support for plugins. >>> >>> .hc >>> >>> On 11/15/2012 07:14 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >>>> Here's an initial re-refactoring back to the plugin interface: >>>> https://puredata.info/Members/jancsika/browser2.0plugin/view >>>> >>>> Don't use this one yet, because I have some more changes to >>>> make based on the following question: >>>> 1) How do I remove the old helpbrowser entry from the >>>> "Help" menu from inside my plugin? >>>> >>>> That way the new helpbrowser will show up for new users, along >>>> with an accelerator , without disturbing old grumps > and >>>> their browser. >>>> >>>> >>>> -Jonathan >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> - Original Message - >>>>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >>>>> To: Jonathan Wilkes >>>>> Cc: "pd-dev@iem.at List" >>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 9:36 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For Pd-extended, I'd much rather keep it as a plugin than > make it >>> an >>>>> internal >>>>> file. I think it will be much easier for you to work on the > search >>> plugin if >>>>> it stays as a plugin. If its a plugin that's included in >>> Pd-extended, it >>>>> can >>>>> be upgraded by the user by just dropping a new version into >>> ~/pd-externals. >>>>> The dev process will be easier too, since updates won't > have to go >>> thru the >>>>> patch tracker to be accepted into pd-extended.git. >>>>> >>>>> For Vanilla, you'll have to ask Miller. I think this same > approach >>> could >>>>> work >>>>> for vanilla too with the same advantages. All that Miller > would need >>> to do to >>>>> include it is check in the search-plugin into pd/extra/ >>>>> >>>>> .hc >>>>> >>>>> On 11/15/2012 01:45 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >>>>>> I already did substantial work on the drop-in replacement > for the >>>>>> helpbrowser based on the feedback I got. I had no idea > the >>>>>> gui-plugin infrastructure was ready to ship actual > plugins running >>>>>> by default in pd-extended. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Jonathan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> - Original Message - >>>>>>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >>>>>>> To: "pd-dev@iem.at List" > >>>>>>> Cc: >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:31 PM >>>>>>> Subject: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey Jonathan, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I committed your latest search-plugin.tcl into >>>>>>> scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, overwriting my > original, >>> simple one. >>>>> I put >>>>>>> it there because I'm adding it to Pd-extended. I > think it >>> makes >>>>> sense to >>>>>>> just >>>>>>> include your plugin directly rather than as a remixed > >>> helpbrowser.tcl. >>>>> I also >>>>>>> just committed a check that makes sure that pd-gui > doesn't >>> try to >>>>> load a >>>>>>> plugin that has already been loaded. That way when > you make >>> new version >>>>> of the >>>>>>> search plugin, people can just drop it into > ~/pd-externals and >>> >>>>> it'll >>>>>>> override >>>>>>> the built-in search-plugin.tcl. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As for scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, feel free to > take >>> that over >>>>> and do >>>>>>> whatever you want with it. I can't see a reason > to keep >>> the old >>>>> one around >>>>>>> any more, your search plugin is very thorough. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> .hc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ___ >>>>>>> Pd-dev mailing list >>>>>>> Pd-dev@iem.at >>>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev >>>>>>> >>>>> >>> > ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev
Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended
What's the pd.info stuff? .hc On Nov 16, 2012, at 12:42 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > > But how do I keep the pd.info stuff in sync with your changes? > > -Jonathan > > > - Original Message - > >> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >> To: Jonathan Wilkes >> Cc: "pd-dev@iem.at List" >> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 10:07 PM >> Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended >> >> >> I just checked in some changes to search-plugin to try the translation stuff. >> First, I added [_ ""] to most of the strings there. The rest I left >> because >> they'll need a little more work. Then I added a 'po' folder with a >> Makefile >> to generate the translations. I mostly did this to have a dev environment >> for >> trying out having translation support for plugins. >> >> .hc >> >> On 11/15/2012 07:14 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >>> Here's an initial re-refactoring back to the plugin interface: >>> https://puredata.info/Members/jancsika/browser2.0plugin/view >>> >>> Don't use this one yet, because I have some more changes to >>> make based on the following question: >>> 1) How do I remove the old helpbrowser entry from the >>> "Help" menu from inside my plugin? >>> >>> That way the new helpbrowser will show up for new users, along >>> with an accelerator , without disturbing old grumps and >>> their browser. >>> >>> >>> -Jonathan >>> >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >>>> To: Jonathan Wilkes >>>> Cc: "pd-dev@iem.at List" >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 9:36 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended >>>> >>>> >>>> For Pd-extended, I'd much rather keep it as a plugin than make it >> an >>>> internal >>>> file. I think it will be much easier for you to work on the search >> plugin if >>>> it stays as a plugin. If its a plugin that's included in >> Pd-extended, it >>>> can >>>> be upgraded by the user by just dropping a new version into >> ~/pd-externals. >>>> The dev process will be easier too, since updates won't have to go >> thru the >>>> patch tracker to be accepted into pd-extended.git. >>>> >>>> For Vanilla, you'll have to ask Miller. I think this same approach >> could >>>> work >>>> for vanilla too with the same advantages. All that Miller would need >> to do to >>>> include it is check in the search-plugin into pd/extra/ >>>> >>>> .hc >>>> >>>> On 11/15/2012 01:45 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >>>>> I already did substantial work on the drop-in replacement for the >>>>> helpbrowser based on the feedback I got. I had no idea the >>>>> gui-plugin infrastructure was ready to ship actual plugins running >>>>> by default in pd-extended. >>>>> >>>>> -Jonathan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - Original Message - >>>>>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >>>>>> To: "pd-dev@iem.at List" >>>>>> Cc: >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:31 PM >>>>>> Subject: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey Jonathan, >>>>>> >>>>>> I committed your latest search-plugin.tcl into >>>>>> scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, overwriting my original, >> simple one. >>>> I put >>>>>> it there because I'm adding it to Pd-extended. I think it >> makes >>>> sense to >>>>>> just >>>>>> include your plugin directly rather than as a remixed >> helpbrowser.tcl. >>>> I also >>>>>> just committed a check that makes sure that pd-gui doesn't >> try to >>>> load a >>>>>> plugin that has already been loaded. That way when you make >> new version >>>> of the >>>>>> search plugin, people can just drop it into ~/pd-externals and >> >>>> it'll >>>>>> override >>>>>> the built-in search-plugin.tcl. >>>>>> >>>>>> As for scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, feel free to take >> that over >>>> and do >>>>>> whatever you want with it. I can't see a reason to keep >> the old >>>> one around >>>>>> any more, your search plugin is very thorough. >>>>>> >>>>>> .hc >>>>>> >>>>>> ___ >>>>>> Pd-dev mailing list >>>>>> Pd-dev@iem.at >>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev >>>>>> >>>> >> ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev
Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended
Sounds good. I'll just make the link on puredata.info download page point there. -Jonathan - Original Message - > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > To: Jonathan Wilkes > Cc: "pd-dev@iem.at List" > Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 8:30 PM > Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended > > > Yes, I think working in the SVN directly there makes a lot of sense. Please > commit there directly, if that works for you. > > .hc > > On Nov 16, 2012, at 12:47 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > >> I meant puredata.info, as in the tcl file I uploaded there. >> >> I should delete that now and just make changes through >> svn, right? >> >> -Jonathan >> >> - Original Message - >>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >>> To: Jonathan Wilkes >>> Cc: "pd-dev@iem.at List" >>> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 12:17 PM >>> Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended >>> >>> >>> What's the pd.info stuff? >>> >>> .hc >>> >>> On Nov 16, 2012, at 12:42 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >>>> >>>> But how do I keep the pd.info stuff in sync with your changes? >>>> >>>> -Jonathan >>>> >>>> >>>> - Original Message - >>>> >>>>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >>>>> To: Jonathan Wilkes >>>>> Cc: "pd-dev@iem.at List" >>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 10:07 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I just checked in some changes to search-plugin to try the > translation >>> stuff. >>>>> First, I added [_ ""] to most of the strings there. > The rest >>> I left >>>>> because >>>>> they'll need a little more work. Then I added a > 'po' >>> folder with a >>>>> Makefile >>>>> to generate the translations. I mostly did this to have a dev >>> environment for >>>>> trying out having translation support for plugins. >>>>> >>>>> .hc >>>>> >>>>> On 11/15/2012 07:14 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: >>>>>> Here's an initial re-refactoring back to the plugin > interface: >>>>>> > https://puredata.info/Members/jancsika/browser2.0plugin/view >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't use this one yet, because I have some more > changes to >>>>>> make based on the following question: >>>>>> 1) How do I remove the old helpbrowser entry from the >>>>>> "Help" menu from inside my plugin? >>>>>> >>>>>> That way the new helpbrowser will show up for new users, > along >>>>>> with an accelerator , without disturbing old > grumps >>> and >>>>>> their browser. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -Jonathan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> - Original Message - >>>>>>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >>>>>>> To: Jonathan Wilkes >>>>>>> Cc: "pd-dev@iem.at List" > >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2012 9:36 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For Pd-extended, I'd much rather keep it as a > plugin than >>> make it >>>>> an >>>>>>> internal >>>>>>> file. I think it will be much easier for you to work > on the >>> search >>>>> plugin if >>>>>>> it stays as a plugin. If its a plugin that's > included in >>>>> Pd-extended, it >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> be upgraded by the user by just dropping a new version > into >>>>> ~/pd-externals. >>>>>>> The dev process will be easier too, since updates > won't >>> have to go >>>>> thru the >>>>>>> patch tracker to be accepted into pd-extended.git. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For Vanilla, you'll have to ask Miller. I
Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended
For Pd-extended, I'd much rather keep it as a plugin than make it an internal file. I think it will be much easier for you to work on the search plugin if it stays as a plugin. If its a plugin that's included in Pd-extended, it can be upgraded by the user by just dropping a new version into ~/pd-externals. The dev process will be easier too, since updates won't have to go thru the patch tracker to be accepted into pd-extended.git. For Vanilla, you'll have to ask Miller. I think this same approach could work for vanilla too with the same advantages. All that Miller would need to do to include it is check in the search-plugin into pd/extra/ .hc On 11/15/2012 01:45 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: > I already did substantial work on the drop-in replacement for the > helpbrowser based on the feedback I got. I had no idea the > gui-plugin infrastructure was ready to ship actual plugins running > by default in pd-extended. > > -Jonathan > > > > - Original Message - >> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner >> To: "pd-dev@iem.at List" >> Cc: >> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:31 PM >> Subject: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended >> >> >> Hey Jonathan, >> >> I committed your latest search-plugin.tcl into >> scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, overwriting my original, simple one. I put >> it there because I'm adding it to Pd-extended. I think it makes sense to >> just >> include your plugin directly rather than as a remixed helpbrowser.tcl. I >> also >> just committed a check that makes sure that pd-gui doesn't try to load a >> plugin that has already been loaded. That way when you make new version of >> the >> search plugin, people can just drop it into ~/pd-externals and it'll >> override >> the built-in search-plugin.tcl. >> >> As for scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, feel free to take that over and do >> whatever you want with it. I can't see a reason to keep the old one around >> any more, your search plugin is very thorough. >> >> .hc >> >> ___ >> Pd-dev mailing list >> Pd-dev@iem.at >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev >> ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev
Re: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended
I already did substantial work on the drop-in replacement for the helpbrowser based on the feedback I got. I had no idea the gui-plugin infrastructure was ready to ship actual plugins running by default in pd-extended. -Jonathan - Original Message - > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > To: "pd-dev@iem.at List" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 11:31 PM > Subject: [PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended > > > Hey Jonathan, > > I committed your latest search-plugin.tcl into > scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, overwriting my original, simple one. I put > it there because I'm adding it to Pd-extended. I think it makes sense to > just > include your plugin directly rather than as a remixed helpbrowser.tcl. I also > just committed a check that makes sure that pd-gui doesn't try to load a > plugin that has already been loaded. That way when you make new version of the > search plugin, people can just drop it into ~/pd-externals and it'll > override > the built-in search-plugin.tcl. > > As for scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, feel free to take that over and do > whatever you want with it. I can't see a reason to keep the old one around > any more, your search plugin is very thorough. > > .hc > > ___ > Pd-dev mailing list > Pd-dev@iem.at > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev > ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev
[PD-dev] search plugin in Pd-extended
Hey Jonathan, I committed your latest search-plugin.tcl into scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, overwriting my original, simple one. I put it there because I'm adding it to Pd-extended. I think it makes sense to just include your plugin directly rather than as a remixed helpbrowser.tcl. I also just committed a check that makes sure that pd-gui doesn't try to load a plugin that has already been loaded. That way when you make new version of the search plugin, people can just drop it into ~/pd-externals and it'll override the built-in search-plugin.tcl. As for scripts/guiplugins/search-plugin, feel free to take that over and do whatever you want with it. I can't see a reason to keep the old one around any more, your search plugin is very thorough. .hc ___ Pd-dev mailing list Pd-dev@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev
