Re: [PD] Re: pd music

2007-01-07 Thread m.weiss

salut
maybe somebody may have a look at
http://www.weiss-archiv.de
the rephlex-tracks were made not only with pd
but it played a great part in makin sound
gruss
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[PD] pd-extended build system questions

2007-01-07 Thread Georg Holzmann

Hallo Hans+list!

I just added PDContainer to the build system and have some questions:

o) I have to use g++, otherwise I cannot link the binary - is this okay 
for the compile farm ?


o) is it now, with the [declare] object, still necessary to make a 
binary out of each pd object ?
(I made now one pdcontainer.pd_linux and installed it to 
/pd/extra/pdcontainer/ - but I think I have to split this into binaries 
for each object ?)


o) in externals/Makefile:

ifeq ($(OS_NAME),linux)
[...]
  DYLIB_EXTENSION = dll
[..]
endif
ifeq ($(OS_NAME),windows)
[...]
  DYLIB_EXTENSION = so
[...]
endif

shouldn't this be exchanged ? (dll for windows and so for linux ?)

o) are there plans to make debian packages too ? (or what has to be done 
to make them work ?)



Thanks,
LG
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Re: [PD] Re: pd music

2007-01-07 Thread m.weiss

salut
ok here are direct links
these should do the trick
http://www.weiss-archiv.de/snd/weiss-01.rephlex.mp3
http://www.weiss-archiv.de/snd/weiss-02.rephlex.mp3
etc. till
http://www.weiss-archiv.de/snd/weiss-09.rephlex.mp3
enjoy
gruss
m.weiss

padawan12 schrieb:

I'd love to hear that, but have you got a direct link
to the media, either .mp3 or .ogg - I cannot do Javascript
or Flash sites
 
cheers


Andy


On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 18:14:50 +0100
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salut
maybe somebody may have a look at
http://www.weiss-archiv.de
the rephlex-tracks were made not only with pd
but it played a great part in makin sound
gruss
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[PD] namecanvas vis 1 gop

2007-01-07 Thread patrick

hi,

i am using 0.40.2 on linux. adding a [namecanvas testing] in a patch 
without GOP and sending bang -> [vis 1] -> [s testing] it's opening the 
patch. now turning the GOP option  to on = not working anymore (it 
doesn't open the patch).


anybody can verify this?
pat

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Re: [PD] namecanvas vis 1 gop

2007-01-07 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Sun, 7 Jan 2007, patrick wrote:

i am using 0.40.2 on linux. adding a [namecanvas testing] in a patch 
without GOP and sending bang -> [vis 1] -> [s testing] it's opening the 
patch. now turning the GOP option to on = not working anymore (it 
doesn't open the patch).


I don't know all the details, but even with just a simple subpatch [pd 
blah] without a namecanvas (and thus using the default receiver), if you 
send vis 1, vis 0, vis 1, vis 0, to [s pd-blah], only 50% of the vis 1 
will work, and the other will print TK errors.


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Re: [PD] Re: pd music

2007-01-07 Thread alexandre r. decoupigny

yes it works very well.
these are wonderful pieces..
really. i really i really like them !
would you give any information how
you composed them ?

salut

alexandre

On 07/01/07, m.weiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


salut
ok here are direct links
these should do the trick
http://www.weiss-archiv.de/snd/weiss-01.rephlex.mp3
http://www.weiss-archiv.de/snd/weiss-02.rephlex.mp3
etc. till
http://www.weiss-archiv.de/snd/weiss-09.rephlex.mp3
enjoy
gruss
m.weiss

padawan12 schrieb:
> I'd love to hear that, but have you got a direct link
> to the media, either .mp3 or .ogg - I cannot do Javascript
> or Flash sites
>
> cheers
>
> Andy
>
>
> On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 18:14:50 +0100
> "m.weiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>salut
>>maybe somebody may have a look at
>>http://www.weiss-archiv.de
>>the rephlex-tracks were made not only with pd
>>but it played a great part in makin sound
>>gruss
>>m.weiss
>>
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Re: [PD] proof-of-concept [hsext] for writing pd externals in Haskell

2007-01-07 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen

Charles Henry wrote:

Maybe I'm missing the point here, but isn't Haskell a compiled (not
interpreted) language? 


There are a variety of compilers and interpreters.

> We can add any compiled function, wrapped in a

C-written external, just so long as we have the symbols for the
function from the binary.


True, and almost trivial, which is why the root of this thread mentioned 
"proof of concept".  The slightly non-trivial part is that Haskell has a 
run-time system, and the rather non-trivial part is dynamically loading 
Haskell source at runtime.



*OR* we can write an external in some funky language, so long as we
can reference the functions from m_pd.h correctly in that language.


False.  Pd expects a symbol blah_setup in a file blah.library (where 
.library is .pd_linux in my case).



I tried to put a Fortran function into an external, once compiled.
All I had to do was "grep" for the symbols exactly as they appeared in
the binary, and get the variables of the function declaration right.
Is this similar?


Not very.

> Have I missed the point entirely?

http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org/gallery/coding/hsext/first-non-trivial.png

The middle window in the top row is the entire source for the object. 
hsext provides the glue to load that source, with a large portion of 
rather non-trivial help from:


http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~dons/hs-plugins/


Chuck



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Re: [PD] gem, text

2007-01-07 Thread Max Neupert

Am 21.12.2006 um 09:59 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig:

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
That's not good.  Any Gem devs want to shed some light on this  
one?  Is

there something missing in the Pd-extended Gem building setup?

./configure seems to not find anything:

 used optional libraries:

  font-rendering :

I think this was a case of code that wasn't in Fink.  How about  
adding

it to GemLibs?


it has been added to GemLib several months ago.
however, this doesn't mean that somebody had made any effort to  
actually

use the FTGL-code in there. (read: GemLib/FTGL is _not_ build by any
Gem-build targets; Gem's configure does not automatically look into
GemLib to search for libraries).

so much things to be done...


hi list,

what's the status of this problem? what can i do to work around? is  
the only way to compile gem myself?


greetings, max

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Re: [PD] proof-of-concept [hsext] for writing pd externals in Haskell

2007-01-07 Thread Charles Henry

I think I understand now.  This is quite a bit more complicated than I
had thought at first.


 > Have I missed the point entirely?

http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org/gallery/coding/hsext/first-non-trivial.png

The middle window in the top row is the entire source for the object.
hsext provides the glue to load that source, with a large portion of
rather non-trivial help from:

http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~dons/hs-plugins/


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7 released

2007-01-07 Thread Vreahli the Audio Bandit

Woohoo! Gem works!

One issue though - I can see rradical in the registry - it's been added, 
but I think it's under libraries and not search paths - so I can't add 
them. It's a registry fix I can do pretty easily - but it took me a bit 
to figure out. Here's some verbose output of pd trying to look for it.


... couldn't create
tried C:\\Program\\rrad.snare2~.dll and failed
tried %SystemRoot%\\Fonts\\rrad.snare2~.dll and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\cyclone\\rrad.snare2~.dll and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\zexy\\rrad.snare2~.dll and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\creb\\rrad.snare2~.dll and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\cxc\\rrad.snare2~.dll and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\iemlib\\rrad.snare2~.dll and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\list-abs\\rrad.snare2~.dll and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\mapping\\rrad.snare2~.dll and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\markex\\rrad.snare2~.dll and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\maxlib\\rrad.snare2~.dll and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\rrad.snare2~.dll and failed
tried C:\\Program\\rrad.snare2~\\rrad.snare2~.dll and failed
tried %SystemRoot%\\Fonts\\rrad.snare2~\\rrad.snare2~.dll and failed
tried C:\\Program 
Files\\pd\\extra\\cyclone\\rrad.snare2~\\rrad.snare2~.dll and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\zexy\\rrad.snare2~\\rrad.snare2~.dll 
and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\creb\\rrad.snare2~\\rrad.snare2~.dll 
and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\cxc\\rrad.snare2~\\rrad.snare2~.dll 
and failed
tried C:\\Program 
Files\\pd\\extra\\iemlib\\rrad.snare2~\\rrad.snare2~.dll and failed
tried C:\\Program 
Files\\pd\\extra\\list-abs\\rrad.snare2~\\rrad.snare2~.dll and failed
tried C:\\Program 
Files\\pd\\extra\\mapping\\rrad.snare2~\\rrad.snare2~.dll and failed
tried C:\\Program 
Files\\pd\\extra\\markex\\rrad.snare2~\\rrad.snare2~.dll and failed
tried C:\\Program 
Files\\pd\\extra\\maxlib\\rrad.snare2~\\rrad.snare2~.dll and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\rrad.snare2~\\rrad.snare2~.dll and 
failed

tried C:\\Program\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e.dll and failed
tried %SystemRoot%\\Fonts\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e.dll and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\cyclone\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e.dll and 
failed

tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\zexy\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e.dll and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\creb\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e.dll and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\cxc\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e.dll and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\iemlib\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e.dll and 
failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\list-abs\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e.dll and 
failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\mapping\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e.dll and 
failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\markex\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e.dll and 
failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\maxlib\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e.dll and 
failed

tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e.dll and failed
tried C:\\Program\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e.dll and failed
tried %SystemRoot%\\Fonts\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e.dll 
and failed
tried C:\\Program 
Files\\pd\\extra\\cyclone\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e.dll 
and failed
tried C:\\Program 
Files\\pd\\extra\\zexy\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e.dll and 
failed
tried C:\\Program 
Files\\pd\\extra\\creb\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e.dll and 
failed
tried C:\\Program 
Files\\pd\\extra\\cxc\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e.dll and failed
tried C:\\Program 
Files\\pd\\extra\\iemlib\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e.dll and 
failed
tried C:\\Program 
Files\\pd\\extra\\list-abs\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e.dll 
and failed
tried C:\\Program 
Files\\pd\\extra\\mapping\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e.dll 
and failed
tried C:\\Program 
Files\\pd\\extra\\markex\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e.dll and 
failed
tried C:\\Program 
Files\\pd\\extra\\maxlib\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e.dll and 
failed
tried C:\\Program 
Files\\pd\\extra\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e\\rrad0x2esnare20x7e.dll and failed

tried C:\\Program\\rrad.snare2~.pd and failed
tried %SystemRoot%\\Fonts\\rrad.snare2~.pd and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\cyclone\\rrad.snare2~.pd and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\zexy\\rrad.snare2~.pd and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\creb\\rrad.snare2~.pd and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\cxc\\rrad.snare2~.pd and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\iemlib\\rrad.snare2~.pd and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\list-abs\\rrad.snare2~.pd and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\mapping\\rrad.snare2~.pd and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\markex\\rrad.snare2~.pd and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\maxlib\\rrad.snare2~.pd and failed
tried C:\\Program Files\\pd\\extra\\rrad.snare2~.pd and failed
tried C:\\Program\\rrad0x2esnare

Re: [PD] Mac OS X 10.3 troubleshooting needed

2007-01-07 Thread ryan holsopple

extended test 7 is working for me on 10.3.9.
Thanks.
However when I open a simple Gem example patch it doesn't find certain objects.

here is the pd window readout:


GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia
GEM: ver: 0.91-cvs
GEM: compiled: Jan  6 2007
GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig
GEM: Authors :  Mark Danks (original version)
GEM:Chris Clepper
GEM:James Tittle
GEM:IOhannes m zmoelnig
GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, Cyrille Henry, et al.
GEM: using AltiVec optimization
gemwin
... couldn't create
gemhead
... couldn't create
rectangle 4 3
... couldn't create
pix_texture
... couldn't create
pix_video
... couldn't create


On 1/7/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Turns out it was that Tcl/Tk uses 10.4-specific things when you build
it from source.  I built a Tcl/Tk version from source on 10.3, so
that should work now.

10.3 users!  Please test this build and tell me whether it works for
you or not!

http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

.hc

On Jan 3, 2007, at 7:26 PM, Thomas Grill wrote:

> Hi Hans-Christoph,
> don't know if this is relevant in your case, but the portaudio v19
> ringbuffer code (in portaudio SVN) is still somehow broken for OSX
> 10.3.
> This can result in crashes at startup, but may be worked around by
> some preprocessor defines, which make the implementation more or
> less unusable for multi-CPU machines though.
>
> greetings,
> Thomas
>
> Am 04.01.2007 um 01:14 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:
>
>>
>> The 0.39.2-extended test versions don't seem to be working on Mac
>> OS X 10.3.  Could someone try a test version on 10.3.9?
>>
>> http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
>>
>> Try running it from the Terminal.app, like this:
>>
>> /Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6.app/Contents/MacOS/
>> Pd-0.39.2-extended-test6
>>
>> .hc
>>
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Re: [PD] Re: pd music

2007-01-07 Thread padawan12

Great stuff, moody, fidgity electro, almost organic.
I like the way undulating grooves build up, a bit
like sound-on-sound tape loop technique.

What "style" would you use to describe this?

I notice the mp3 tags say 2004, and wonder what
amazing stuff you might be working on in 2007 :)

Thankyou for sharing, 

Andy
 

On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 19:38:53 +0100
"m.weiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> salut
> ok here are direct links
> these should do the trick
> http://www.weiss-archiv.de/snd/weiss-01.rephlex.mp3
> http://www.weiss-archiv.de/snd/weiss-02.rephlex.mp3
> etc. till
> http://www.weiss-archiv.de/snd/weiss-09.rephlex.mp3
> enjoy
> gruss
> m.weiss
> 
> padawan12 schrieb:
> > I'd love to hear that, but have you got a direct link
> > to the media, either .mp3 or .ogg - I cannot do Javascript
> > or Flash sites
> >  
> > cheers
> > 
> > Andy
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 18:14:50 +0100
> > "m.weiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>salut
> >>maybe somebody may have a look at
> >>http://www.weiss-archiv.de
> >>the rephlex-tracks were made not only with pd
> >>but it played a great part in makin sound
> >>gruss
> >>m.weiss
> >>
> >>
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Re: [PD] proof-of-concept [hsext] for writing pd externals in Haskell

2007-01-07 Thread Mathieu Bouchard

On Sun, 7 Jan 2007, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

Whatever it is, the distinction between compiler and interpreter has 
been blurred a lot over the year: e.g. the Python "interpreter" compiles 
code and saves it to disk, and also interprets the "compiled" code.


Typo, I meant over the years. Not much really changed in 2006; I meant "in 
the last 25 years or so" but more particularly during the nineties.


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[PD] bye

2007-01-07 Thread Mathieu Bouchard


i'm unsubscribing from: pd-list pd-dev pd-announce pd-ot

i will stay on: pd-cvs gem-dev gridflow-dev gridflow-cvs pdmtl dataflow (etc)

and also on IRC: #dataflow #desiredata

GridFlow questions are best directed to gridflow-dev 
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DesireData/PureUnity questions are best directed to the dataflow 
mailing-list (http://lists.artengine.ca/mailman/listinfo/dataflow), but 
these days there is more action on the FreeNode IRC chatrooms.


If I make an important announcement worthy of pd-list, I'll make it somewhere 
else and then someone else on Earth will figure out that it has to be forwarded 
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Re: [PD] Re: pd music

2007-01-07 Thread Chris McCormick
On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 07:38:53PM +0100, m.weiss wrote:
> http://www.weiss-archiv.de/snd/weiss-01.rephlex.mp3
> http://www.weiss-archiv.de/snd/weiss-02.rephlex.mp3
> etc. till
> http://www.weiss-archiv.de/snd/weiss-09.rephlex.mp3
> enjoy

m.weiss,

I totally love this album! Awesome stuff, beautiful. Do you have a paypal
account where I can send you the money for the album download? (You can
send it back to me off list)

Best,

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