Re: [PD] Percolate

2007-03-09 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
>> will be major differences between the anglo-american and the european
>> way. (and other ways too, but about these i know even less)
> 
> I think that they are not as big as you'd guess because there are  
> international treaties that are all about making these laws work in  
> the same ways across borders.  Copyright, patents, and trademarks act  
> quite similarly in all countries that participate in these treaties  
> (which is most).

not quite true.
(i'd say it is an anglo-centristic viewpoint ;-))
after all, in anglo-american space we have to deal with "copyright"
whereas in continental europe we still have the "urheberrecht" which is
something really different.


>>
>> things are certainly better in CreativeCommons (among other things
>> because they are less u.s.-centric than the FSF).
> 
> Hmm, that's debatable.  They don't have a license without an  
> attribution clause, it's not even an option. And the CC attribution  
> clause is much worse than the BSD attribution clause ever was.

yes i agree here.
i was just trying to say that the creative commons is much more
"court-proof" in different countries since it has been adapted to really
fit within the legislature of these.

the GPL never had anything but the u.s.-american copyright law in mind,
which makes it not necesserarily fit for other countries.
i do not say that the GPL is bad or futile in europe, it is the license
i use...


mfg.asdr
IOhannes

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Re: [PD] generative patches on mobile phones?

2007-03-09 Thread yukio kuroiwa
hi...i think this is not possible, but you can comunicate both
applications using osc protocol, for example you can have a experimental
gui made in processing and puredata patch as sound engine .
bye




On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:50:26 -0800, "Cypod" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> speaking of using www.processing.org to make java, is there anyway to
> load a
> pd patch into processing?
> 
> On 3/8/07, Chris McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 08, 2007 at 02:06:38AM -0800, yukio kuroiwa wrote:
> > > hi, sorry for this stupid question... is a way of making generative pd
> > > patches for mobile phones?
> > > or is there any other alternative of creating generative music for
> > > mobile phones that support java?
> >
> > Hi Yukio,
> >
> > Not a stupid question. I am sure it's possible to make generative
> > patches for mobile phones, but it would take a lot of work.
> >
> > Firstly, you might like to check out PDa which is a stripped back
> > fixed-point version of Pure Data which you can compile for many different
> > embedded processors such as those used in mobile phones.  You'd then
> > need to get a compiler for each phone that you wanted to do this on and
> > make PDa compile for that phone.  
> >
> > As for Java, perhaps you could use some parts of the jMax project? Or
> > you could roll your own solution, but in my experience there is a large
> > variance in the capabilities of Java on mobile phones (so much for
> > "machine independence").
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Chris.
> >
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[PD] time-to-symbol

2007-03-09 Thread Orm Finnendahl
Hi,

 attached is a small utility for a time display on a canvas for anyone
interested,

--
Orm
#N canvas 504 25 843 675 12;
#X obj 36 10 cnv 15 220 40 empty *time-display-cnv-in* 0:00:22 20 18
0 36 -1 -241291 0;
#X msg 35 235 \; *time-display-cnv-in* label \$1;
#X obj 69 155 + 1;
#X obj 35 154 f;
#X obj 35 111 metro 1000;
#X msg 133 111 0;
#X obj 35 83 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 1 1
;
#X floatatom 35 182 5 0 0 0 - - -;
#X obj 133 85 loadbang;
#N canvas 0 0 450 459 sec-to-time-symbol 0;
#X obj 24 17 inlet;
#X obj 50 337 outlet;
#X msg 84 258 set \$1;
#X obj 50 312 makefilename not-set-yet;
#X floatatom 50 258 0 0 0 0 - - -;
#X msg 171 177 set \$1;
#X obj 84 205 makefilename not-set-yet;
#N canvas 0 0 450 300 format 0;
#X obj 24 20 inlet;
#X obj 24 224 outlet;
#X obj 91 105 + 1;
#X obj 24 47 t f f;
#X obj 24 171 makefilename 0%d;
#X obj 176 171 makefilename %d;
#X obj 91 80 >= 10;
#N canvas 0 0 450 300 gate2 0;
#X obj 44 237 spigot;
#X obj 44 262 outlet;
#X obj 123 238 spigot;
#X obj 123 263 outlet;
#X obj 21 30 inlet;
#X obj 288 38 inlet;
#X obj 359 129 loadbang;
#X obj 93 194 unpack 0 0;
#X obj 288 62 route 0 1 2;
#X msg 350 95 0 1;
#X msg 319 127 1 0;
#X msg 288 166 0 0;
#X connect 0 0 1 0;
#X connect 2 0 3 0;
#X connect 4 0 0 0;
#X connect 4 0 2 0;
#X connect 5 0 8 0;
#X connect 6 0 11 0;
#X connect 7 0 0 1;
#X connect 7 1 2 1;
#X connect 8 0 11 0;
#X connect 8 1 10 0;
#X connect 8 2 9 0;
#X connect 9 0 7 0;
#X connect 10 0 7 0;
#X connect 11 0 7 0;
#X restore 24 133 pd gate2;
#X connect 0 0 3 0;
#X connect 2 0 7 1;
#X connect 3 0 7 0;
#X connect 3 1 6 0;
#X connect 4 0 1 0;
#X connect 5 0 1 0;
#X connect 6 0 2 0;
#X connect 7 0 4 0;
#X connect 7 1 5 0;
#X restore 84 177 pd format;
#X obj 171 84 % 60;
#X obj 85 82 / 60;
#X obj 85 115 int;
#X obj 84 142 % 60;
#X obj 24 115 int;
#X obj 24 82 / 3600;
#X obj 24 44 t f f f;
#X obj 84 234 makefilename %%d:%s;
#X obj 171 153 makefilename %%s:%s;
#N canvas 0 0 450 300 format 0;
#X obj 24 20 inlet;
#X obj 24 224 outlet;
#X obj 91 105 + 1;
#X obj 24 47 t f f;
#X obj 24 171 makefilename 0%d;
#X obj 176 171 makefilename %d;
#X obj 91 80 >= 10;
#N canvas 0 0 450 300 gate2 0;
#X obj 44 237 spigot;
#X obj 44 262 outlet;
#X obj 123 238 spigot;
#X obj 123 263 outlet;
#X obj 21 30 inlet;
#X obj 288 38 inlet;
#X obj 359 129 loadbang;
#X obj 93 194 unpack 0 0;
#X obj 288 62 route 0 1 2;
#X msg 350 95 0 1;
#X msg 319 127 1 0;
#X msg 288 166 0 0;
#X connect 0 0 1 0;
#X connect 2 0 3 0;
#X connect 4 0 0 0;
#X connect 4 0 2 0;
#X connect 5 0 8 0;
#X connect 6 0 11 0;
#X connect 7 0 0 1;
#X connect 7 1 2 1;
#X connect 8 0 11 0;
#X connect 8 1 10 0;
#X connect 8 2 9 0;
#X connect 9 0 7 0;
#X connect 10 0 7 0;
#X connect 11 0 7 0;
#X restore 24 133 pd gate2;
#X connect 0 0 3 0;
#X connect 2 0 7 1;
#X connect 3 0 7 0;
#X connect 3 1 6 0;
#X connect 4 0 1 0;
#X connect 5 0 1 0;
#X connect 6 0 2 0;
#X connect 7 0 4 0;
#X connect 7 1 5 0;
#X restore 171 116 pd format;
#X connect 0 0 14 0;
#X connect 2 0 3 0;
#X connect 3 0 1 0;
#X connect 4 0 3 0;
#X connect 5 0 6 0;
#X connect 6 0 15 0;
#X connect 7 0 6 0;
#X connect 8 0 17 0;
#X connect 9 0 10 0;
#X connect 10 0 11 0;
#X connect 11 0 7 0;
#X connect 12 0 4 0;
#X connect 13 0 12 0;
#X connect 14 0 13 0;
#X connect 14 1 9 0;
#X connect 14 2 8 0;
#X connect 15 0 2 0;
#X connect 16 0 5 0;
#X connect 17 0 16 0;
#X restore 35 208 pd sec-to-time-symbol;
#X text 176 111 reset time;
#X text 57 83 start;
#X connect 2 0 3 1;
#X connect 3 0 2 0;
#X connect 3 0 7 0;
#X connect 4 0 3 0;
#X connect 5 0 7 0;
#X connect 5 0 3 1;
#X connect 6 0 4 0;
#X connect 7 0 9 0;
#X connect 8 0 5 0;
#X connect 9 0 1 0;
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Re: [PD] PD-list Digest, Vol 24, Issue 41

2007-03-09 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
David Powers hat gesagt: // David Powers wrote:

> Now I know enough python, that I could probably have found a way to
> replace the [counter] objects automatically with some other
> abstraction, using some script, but I wasn't prepared to do that back
> then.
> 
> Actually, it would be cool to have a repository for Python scripts to
> do this kind of thing, and other useful PD-related tasks. 

http://puredata.info/docs/tutorials/TipsAndTricks

Ciao
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