Re: [PD] ANN: munger1~ port (from the Percolate library)

2007-04-02 Thread Rich E

The only link I can find to download the source (
http://www.akustische-kunst.de/puredata/percolate.html ) is down right now.
Anyone know why, or if I can get the source elsewhere?

regards,
Rich

On 3/12/07, Ivica Ico Bukvic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi all,

For impatient, download at:
http://ico.bukvic.net/Max/munger1~_1.0.0.tar.gz
(270KB, includes source, Linux-Pd-i386, Mac-Max-i386, and Win32-Max-i386
binaries, and 3 cases of beer)

OVERVIEW


munger1~ (March 12, 2007 1.0.0 release)
a realtime multichannel granulator
a.k.a. the swiss-army-knife of realtime granular synthesis

a flext (cross-platform PD  Max/MSP) port of
the munger~ object from the PeRColate library (0.9 beta5)
http://www.music.columbia.edu/PeRColate/

Original PeRColate library by:

Dan Trueman http://www.music.princeton.edu/~dan/
R. Luke DuBois's http://www.lukedubois.com/

Flext port and additions by:
Ivica Ico Bukvic http://ico.bukvic.net
Ji-Sun Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.music.vt.edu
http://www.cctad.vt.edu

Released under GPL license
(whichever is the latest version--as of this release, version 2)
For more info on the GPL license please visit:
http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html

ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS


Many thanks to Dan Trueman for open-sourcing this great object!

SOURCE INSTALL
==

If you simply intend to use prebuilt binaries, please skip to the INSTALL
section. Otherwise take a big breath and read on...

1) You need stk library which can be downloaded from:

http://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/stk/

2) You need to also install latest flext library (this is a library that
allows for creation of externals for both Max/MSP and PD using the same
source). Version 0.4.x can obtained from the following link:

http://g.org/ext/flext/

Latest CVS version (0.5.1) is found in the Pure-Data CVS (this one is
recommended):

http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=55736

3) If you are using latest CVS version (0.5.1) Before compiling the source
you will need to add the following to the top of the flext/source/flstk.h
file right below the #define __FLSTK_H:

#ifdef PI
#undef PI
#endif

This step will probably become quickly obsolete once Thomas updates CVS.
Until then, this is needed to be able to compile flext against stk.

4) To compile flext, read flext instructions (it boils down to running
build.sh with appropriate parameters and then editing two simple config
files, i.e. build pd gcc build or build max gcc or build max msvc
etc.)

Your will need to edit buildsys/config-platform-compiler-pdormax.txt to
adjust paths to various folders.

Then you will need to edit config.txt file. You do not need to include
SndObj for this external but you do need stk option to be properly set. On
Windows+MSVC, STK flag at the time of this release does not work, so you
will have to use included testmunger1 MSVC project file and adjust path
settings to compile munger1~.

5) Once stk and flext are compiled, go into munger1~ folder and type:

path to flext folder/build.sh platform compiler
build/clean/install

NB: on Mac build/clean/install is not needed. On Windows, please use
MSVC
and open the testmunger1 project file in the root of the folder.

6) Once compiled, your binary will be created in a maxorpd-platform
subfolder (i.e. pd-linux, or max-darwin), followed by another subfolder
which reflects whether a threaded or singlethread flext was used. Inside
you
will find your external.

INSTALL
===

You can either use the prebuilt externals (found in the bin/ folder) or
ones
built using the SOURCE INSTALL instructions above. Binaries are provided
for Intel-based Macs, Win32, and Intel-based Linux OS. The included
prebuilt
binaries DO NOT REQUIRE you to install flext or stk as these are
statically
linked.

1) Copy the external in your externals folder (i.e. /usr/lib/pd/extra or
C:\Program Files\Cycling '74\MaxMSP 4.6\Cycling '74\externals\, or
Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/Cycling '74/externals)

2) Copy appropriate help file (found in the help/ folder) into the help
folder (i.e. /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference or C:\Program Files\Cycling
'74\MaxMSP 4.6\max-help, or Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/max-help)

NB: Pd help file has a .pd extension, while Max/MSP help file has a
.help extension.

3) Start your app (PD or Max) and create object called munger1~.
Right-click
(ctrl-click on Macs) and select help and this should open the help file
with additional documentation.

Questions? See OVERVIEW for contact and QA info.

Enjoy!

FAQ
===

The following is Ico's FAQ, so it may or may not reflect other project
participants' opinions, including original author(s) of munger~, flext,
etc.

Q: Why porting to flext?
A: Flext library (by Thomas Grill) is a layer which allows creation of
externals for both Max/MSP and PD without any alterations to the code
(obviously once it is adapted to use flext). While there have been a
number
of Max/MSP - PD external ports in the past, many of them have become
outdated because such attempts required 

Re: [PD] chromakey in pd or freeframe lumakey

2007-04-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
thomas wrote:
 Hello !
 
 
 I try to use [pix_film freeframe lumakey] ... but i do not know how it 
 functions ...

not at all.
it should be

|
[pix_film]
|
[pix_freeframe lumakey]
|

and you will have to read the documentation for the lumakey-plugin to
understand how to control it (the only thing i can tell you is, that for
each parameter you can set in the plugin, there will be a separate inlet)


 
  i just want do a chromakey and i don't find help or tutorials about 
 [pix_alpha] . I don't understand the instructions i must to put in inlet 
 4 and 5 ...

i don't know which version of Gem you are using and how you installed it.
but when you have done it right, there is a help-patch for [pix_alpha]

 
 If you are any link or council about chromakey in Pd ... thanks !

and then there is also [pix_chroma_key] which might do what you want
without freeframe; and it comes with a help-patch...


mfsdr.a
IOhannes

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Re: [PD] Sigmund and Sort (Was Real-time frequency filtering and analysis)

2007-04-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Jared wrote:
 robbert van hulzen wrote:
 a dotted line indicates that the object can't be created, i think it gets
 the status of a comment. you also see it in the pd window:
 sigmund~ ... couldn't create.
 [sort] is part of zexy, works for me also in 0.39.2-ext-test7. do other zexy
 objects get created?
 [sigmund~]--which looks really interesting!--works only on 0.40.2 for me--
 it's in miller's 0.40.2 and in the autobuild of 18 march i'm trying out. the
 help-file says 'updated for 0.40' though, so i don't know its history.
 btw the autobuild comes with the warning stuff may not work--in my case,
 [moog~] for example won't be created.
 cheers, robbert
 
 Appologies for my lack of experience, but where would I get zexy? Or 
 check to see if I have it? Likewise, for 0.40.2, where would I get that? 
  From http://puredata.info/downloads or elsewhere?

ftp://ftp.iem.at/pub/pd/Externals/ZEXY/

however, this might not be the most uptodate version, which you will
only get via CVS (see puredata.info for more info on this); in the
latter case, you will have to compile it yourself.


mfga.sdr
IOhannes

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Re: [PD] invisible pyext on windows

2007-04-02 Thread Thomas Grill
Hi Martin,
as probably also found in the archives, this is obviously caused by  
flext-based externals built with different (older) flext versions.
It's a good idea to update your other externals, apart from pyext, too.

greetings,
Thomas

Am 02.04.2007 um 03:05 schrieb Martin Peach:

 I was hoping to try python with pd but ran into this, which has been
 mentioned before:
 http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-11/044535.html

 I find that the [pyext]s occasionally do appear but usually they  
 don't.
 It doesn't seem to matter if they are top level or not.
 This is on WinXp, Miller's pd040-2, pyext from
 http://g.org/ext/py/py-bin-0.2.0-pd-win.zip, python 2.4.4.
 You can see an example here:
 http://132.205.142.12/screenshot.PNG

 Martin

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Re: [PD] ANN: munger1~ port (from the Percolate library)

2007-04-02 Thread Kevin McCoy
Hi Rich,

It's at version 1.0.1 right now so go to:
http://ico.bukvic.net/Max/munger1~_1.0.1.tar.gz

Once you get it compiled you may be interested in the GUI I posted to
the list several days ago.  The subject was munger1~ GOP [was Re:
munger1~ binary for ppc]

Good luck,
Kevin

On 4/2/07, Rich E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The only link I can find to download the source (
 http://www.akustische-kunst.de/puredata/percolate.html ) is
 down right now.  Anyone know why, or if I can get the source elsewhere?

 regards,
 Rich

 On 3/12/07, Ivica Ico Bukvic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  For impatient, download at:
 http://ico.bukvic.net/Max/munger1~_1.0.0.tar.gz
  (270KB, includes source, Linux-Pd-i386, Mac-Max-i386, and Win32-Max-i386
  binaries, and 3 cases of beer)
 
  OVERVIEW
  
 
  munger1~ (March 12, 2007 1.0.0 release)
  a realtime multichannel granulator
  a.k.a. the swiss-army-knife of realtime granular synthesis
 
  a flext (cross-platform PD  Max/MSP) port of
  the munger~ object from the PeRColate library (0.9 beta5)
  http://www.music.columbia.edu/PeRColate/
 
  Original PeRColate library by:
 
  Dan Trueman http://www.music.princeton.edu/~dan/
  R. Luke DuBois's http://www.lukedubois.com/
 
  Flext port and additions by:
  Ivica Ico Bukvic http://ico.bukvic.net
  Ji-Sun Kim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  http://www.music.vt.edu
  http://www.cctad.vt.edu
 
  Released under GPL license
  (whichever is the latest version--as of this release, version 2)
  For more info on the GPL license please visit:
  http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
 
  ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS
  
 
  Many thanks to Dan Trueman for open-sourcing this great object!
 
  SOURCE INSTALL
  ==
 
  If you simply intend to use prebuilt binaries, please skip to the INSTALL
  section. Otherwise take a big breath and read on...
 
  1) You need stk library which can be downloaded from:
 
  http://ccrma.stanford.edu/software/stk/
 
  2) You need to also install latest flext library (this is a library that
  allows for creation of externals for both Max/MSP and PD using the same
  source). Version 0.4.x can obtained from the following link:
 
  http://g.org/ext/flext/
 
  Latest CVS version (0.5.1) is found in the Pure-Data CVS (this one is
  recommended):
 
  http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=55736
 
  3) If you are using latest CVS version (0.5.1) Before compiling the source
  you will need to add the following to the top of the flext/source/flstk.h
  file right below the #define __FLSTK_H:
 
  #ifdef PI
  #undef PI
  #endif
 
  This step will probably become quickly obsolete once Thomas updates CVS.
  Until then, this is needed to be able to compile flext against stk.
 
  4) To compile flext, read flext instructions (it boils down to running
  build.sh with appropriate parameters and then editing two simple config
  files, i.e. build pd gcc build or build max gcc or build max msvc
  etc.)
 
  Your will need to edit
 buildsys/config-platform-compiler-pdormax.txt to
  adjust paths to various folders.
 
  Then you will need to edit config.txt file. You do not need to include
  SndObj for this external but you do need stk option to be properly set. On
  Windows+MSVC, STK flag at the time of this release does not work, so you
  will have to use included testmunger1 MSVC project file and adjust path
  settings to compile munger1~.
 
  5) Once stk and flext are compiled, go into munger1~ folder and type:
 
  path to flext folder/build.sh platform compiler
 build/clean/install
 
  NB: on Mac build/clean/install is not needed. On Windows, please use
 MSVC
  and open the testmunger1 project file in the root of the folder.
 
  6) Once compiled, your binary will be created in a maxorpd-platform
  subfolder (i.e. pd-linux, or max-darwin), followed by another subfolder
  which reflects whether a threaded or singlethread flext was used. Inside
 you
  will find your external.
 
  INSTALL
  ===
 
  You can either use the prebuilt externals (found in the bin/ folder) or
 ones
  built using the SOURCE INSTALL instructions above. Binaries are provided
  for Intel-based Macs, Win32, and Intel-based Linux OS. The included
 prebuilt
  binaries DO NOT REQUIRE you to install flext or stk as these are
 statically
  linked.
 
  1) Copy the external in your externals folder (i.e. /usr/lib/pd/extra or
  C:\Program Files\Cycling '74\MaxMSP 4.6\Cycling '74\externals\, or
  Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/Cycling '74/externals)
 
  2) Copy appropriate help file (found in the help/ folder) into the help
  folder (i.e. /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference or C:\Program Files\Cycling
  '74\MaxMSP 4.6\max-help, or Applications/MaxMSP 4.6/max-help)
 
  NB: Pd help file has a .pd extension, while Max/MSP help file has a
  .help extension.
 
  3) Start your app (PD or Max) and create object called munger1~.
 Right-click
  (ctrl-click on Macs) and select help and this should open the help file
  with additional documentation.
 
  Questions? See OVERVIEW for 

Re: [PD] invisible pyext on windows

2007-04-02 Thread Steffen Leve Poulsen
hi Martin, Thomas

I tried to get the py ext to work many times, now I finally made it work 
, on winxp and pd 040-2 vanilla. Pyext from
http://g.org/ext/py/py-bin-0.2.0-pd-win.zip, python 2.4.4..

Follow the instructions in the readme.txt
If you dont set the path to the scripts, the strange things occur
(you could also just copy the scripts to the examples folder).

BTW the sig examples are not working, but the rest are OK.

This is really great, thank you Thomas.

mvh/ Stefffen Leve Poulsen


Martin Peach skrev:
 I was hoping to try python with pd but ran into this, which has been 
 mentioned before:
 http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-11/044535.html
 
 I find that the [pyext]s occasionally do appear but usually they don't. 
 It doesn't seem to matter if they are top level or not.
 This is on WinXp, Miller's pd040-2, pyext from 
 http://g.org/ext/py/py-bin-0.2.0-pd-win.zip, python 2.4.4.
 You can see an example here:
 http://132.205.142.12/screenshot.PNG
 
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Re: [PD] invisible pyext on windows

2007-04-02 Thread Thomas Grill
Hi,

 BTW the sig examples are not working, but the rest are OK.


Not working in which way?

I'm not really sure if it's a good idea to use signals in Python  
anyway, because it's a real CPU-hog.

greetings,
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Re: [PD] ANN: munger1~ port (from the Percolate library)

2007-04-02 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
 The only link I can find to download the source ( http://www.akustische-
 kunst.de/puredata/percolate.html ) is down right now.  Anyone know why, or
 if I can get the source elsewhere? 

Source for PeRColate or munger? Munger link is provided below. I downloaded
the source of the old port from the CCRMA src rpm. That one is heavily
outdated however. If you are planning on doing a port, I would suggest
contacting Dan Trueman directly and/or downloading latest OSX build which
includes source.

http://ico.bukvic.net/Max/munger1~_1.0.0.tar.gz

Best wishes,

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Re: [PD] invisible pyext on windows

2007-04-02 Thread Steffen Leve Poulsen
Thomas Grill skrev:
 Hi,
 
 BTW the sig examples are not working, but the rest are OK.

 
 Not working in which way?

first
they just crash pd

then I installed numpy-1.0.1.win32-py2.4.exe
now I can see the patch but also the wincrashmenu

 I'm not really sure if it's a good idea to use signals in Python  
 anyway, because it's a real CPU-hog.

OK I wasn't planning on using pyext~

 greetings,
 Thomas
 
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Re: [PD] Sigmund and Sort (Was Real-time frequency filtering and analysis)

2007-04-02 Thread robbert van hulzen

alternatively, if you don't want to compile yourself: the 0.40.2 autobuilds
on puredate.info have recent versions (i assume you want = 0.40.2 because
of [sigmund~]).

On 4/2/07 12:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 for 0.40.2, where would I get that?
  From http://puredata.info/downloads or elsewhere?
 
 ftp://ftp.iem.at/pub/pd/Externals/ZEXY/
 
 however, this might not be the most uptodate version, which you will
 only get via CVS (see puredata.info for more info on this); in the
 latter case, you will have to compile it yourself.



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[PD] Tuning mp3cast~

2007-04-02 Thread Richard Lewis
Hello PDers,

I've just taken receipt of a dedicated Debian server on which I intend to run 
an application which uses PD with mp3cast~. I've just managed to transfer the 
application from my laptop to the new server and get it working (or at least 
the PD/Icecast bit anyway).

When I point my MP3 streamer (mplayer) to the stream, however, I get very 
intermittent playback and its status line looks a bit like this:

A:  22.7 (22.6) of 0.0 (unknown) 1273.2% 0%

Is that huge percentage a buffer?

I get the impression that it can't get the data quickly enough from the server 
in order to give smooth, continuous playback. Does that sound likely? And is 
it likely to be the speed of the connection? Running over my LAN in testing 
the playback had a 1-2 second delay, but was smooth.

Could reducing the various rates at which mp3cast~ works make a difference? 
And, if so, which rates and to what levels would make a difference. At the 
moment I have:

sample rate: 44100
bitrate: 128
mode: 1 (joint stereo; the input is stereo)
quality: 4

I'm not really all that knowledgable on what values are valid or extreme for 
these properties.

Any advice would be very welcome!

Cheers,
Richard
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Re: [PD] ANN: munger1~ port (from the Percolate library)

2007-04-02 Thread Kevin McCoy
BTW Ico, did you ever get a chance to look at the code and see why it
wouldn't compile the newest version for me?  I would still be happy to
provide you with the binary if we can get it working :)

Kevin

On 4/2/07, Ivica Ico Bukvic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The only link I can find to download the source ( http://www.akustische-
  kunst.de/puredata/percolate.html ) is down right now. Anyone know why, or
  if I can get the source elsewhere?

 Source for PeRColate or munger? Munger link is provided below. I downloaded
 the source of the old port from the CCRMA src rpm. That one is heavily
 outdated however. If you are planning on doing a port, I would suggest
 contacting Dan Trueman directly and/or downloading latest OSX build which
 includes source.

 http://ico.bukvic.net/Max/munger1~_1.0.0.tar.gz

 Best wishes,

 Ico


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Re: [PD] Tuning mp3cast~

2007-04-02 Thread Roman Haefeli
hello richard

On Mon, 2007-04-02 at 15:52 +0100, Richard Lewis wrote:
 Hello PDers,
 
 I've just taken receipt of a dedicated Debian server on which I intend to run 
 an application which uses PD with mp3cast~. I've just managed to transfer the 
 application from my laptop to the new server and get it working (or at least 
 the PD/Icecast bit anyway).
 
 When I point my MP3 streamer (mplayer) to the stream, however, I get very 
 intermittent playback and its status line looks a bit like this:
 
 A:  22.7 (22.6) of 0.0 (unknown) 1273.2% 0%
 
 Is that huge percentage a buffer?
 
 I get the impression that it can't get the data quickly enough from the 
 server 
 in order to give smooth, continuous playback. Does that sound likely? And is 
 it likely to be the speed of the connection? Running over my LAN in testing 
 the playback had a 1-2 second delay, but was smooth.

yes, it sounds like the connection is too slow for transmitting the
stream. where are you feeding the server from? i mean, does the patch
with [mp3cast~] also run on your debian server or does it run on a local
computer and is upstreaming the audio to the server? if the latter is
the case, could it be, that the upstreaming is the bottleneck? 

 Could reducing the various rates at which mp3cast~ works make a difference? 
 And, if so, which rates and to what levels would make a difference. At the 
 moment I have:
 
 sample rate: 44100
 bitrate: 128
 mode: 1 (joint stereo; the input is stereo)
 quality: 4
 
 I'm not really all that knowledgable on what values are valid or extreme for 
 these properties.
 Any advice would be very welcome!

essentially, only the bitrate makes a difference in terms of bandwidth.
lowering the bitrate will also reduce the audio quality, of course. try
different values: 128, 96, 64, 48 are common values.

roman 


 Cheers,
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[PD] pda --no-TK ?

2007-04-02 Thread alejo d

hi all,

we are in the process of installing pda[1] to an embedded device aka
gumstix.
the buildroot of the so called device has TCL but of course, no TK.

we were told to install TK manually but i has dependencies on X11 and is an
embedded device that has no display to control and is intended to run fast
and lightly.

has anyone go around something similar before? any advice on what route to
take?

tx!,
/a

[1]the source for pda is here: http://gige.xdv.org/pda/release/
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Re: [PD] pda --no-TK ?

2007-04-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
alejo d wrote:
 hi all,
 
 we are in the process of installing pda[1] to an embedded device aka
 gumstix.
 the buildroot of the so called device has TCL but of course, no TK.
 
 we were told to install TK manually but i has dependencies on X11 and is
 an embedded device that has no display to control and is intended to run
 fast and lightly.
 
 has anyone go around something similar before? any advice on what route
 to take?
 

do you need pd-gui? pd-gui is the only part of pd that depends on tcl/tk
and is not strictly needed for running pd (e.g. when running pd with
-nogui then pd-gui is not needed at all)

if that is ok for you, try building pd without pd-gui (search the
archives for instructions on what exactly to do; basically it is just
deleting the tcl/tk search thingies from configure.in and the pd-gui
thingies from Makefile(.in))

mfg.asd
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Re: [PD] pda --no-TK ?

2007-04-02 Thread alejo d

thanks iohannes, i will follow the archives and your suggestion and report
back.

:)

/a

On 4/2/07, IOhannes m zmoelnig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


alejo d wrote:
 hi all,

 we are in the process of installing pda[1] to an embedded device aka
 gumstix.
 the buildroot of the so called device has TCL but of course, no TK.

 we were told to install TK manually but i has dependencies on X11 and is
 an embedded device that has no display to control and is intended to run
 fast and lightly.

 has anyone go around something similar before? any advice on what route
 to take?


do you need pd-gui? pd-gui is the only part of pd that depends on tcl/tk
and is not strictly needed for running pd (e.g. when running pd with
-nogui then pd-gui is not needed at all)

if that is ok for you, try building pd without pd-gui (search the
archives for instructions on what exactly to do; basically it is just
deleting the tcl/tk search thingies from configure.in and the pd-gui
thingies from Makefile(.in))

mfg.asd
IOhannes

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Re: [PD] ANN: munger1~ port (from the Percolate library)

2007-04-02 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
Almost there. Fixed a ton of bugs this weekend plus made maxvoices modular.
Please stand by for updated documentation file.

Best wishes,

Ico

 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin McCoy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 11:18 AM
 To: Ivica Ico Bukvic; PD-list@iem.at
 Subject: Re: [PD] ANN: munger1~ port (from the Percolate library)
 
 BTW Ico, did you ever get a chance to look at the code and see why it
 wouldn't compile the newest version for me?  I would still be happy to
 provide you with the binary if we can get it working :)
 
 Kevin
 
 On 4/2/07, Ivica Ico Bukvic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   The only link I can find to download the source (
 http://www.akustische-
   kunst.de/puredata/percolate.html ) is down right now. Anyone know why,
 or
   if I can get the source elsewhere?
 
  Source for PeRColate or munger? Munger link is provided below. I
 downloaded
  the source of the old port from the CCRMA src rpm. That one is heavily
  outdated however. If you are planning on doing a port, I would suggest
  contacting Dan Trueman directly and/or downloading latest OSX build
 which
  includes source.
 
  http://ico.bukvic.net/Max/munger1~_1.0.0.tar.gz
 
  Best wishes,
 
  Ico
 
 
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[PD] PDCon Papers Call v.2 - deadline extended to April 15

2007-04-02 Thread Andrew Brouse

Dear PureData people,

Following is the 2nd call for abstracts and papers - with an extended deadline 
- for the PureData Convention. Just in time for the full moon ;)


Any queries can be directed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Andrew

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L'œuvre ouverte | PureData Convention '07
* August 21st-26th 2007, Montréal Canada *

2nd Call for Papers - Deadline extended

New Deadline for Abstracts: April 15th 2007
Acceptance announced: May 31
Camera-ready papers due: June 30

More information:
http://www.puredata.org/community/projects/convention07/

Papers submission form:
http://pure-data.ca/openconf.php

The PureData Convention Steering Committee is now accepting abstracts and full 
papers to be considered for inclusion in L'œuvre ouverte (the Open Work), the 
2nd International PureData Convention. L'œuvre ouverte invites an open relation 
between the artwork and the public as well as open attitudes and practices in 
the fields of computer programming, artistic creation and scientific research. 
It will bring together artists, writers, programmers and others who develop, 
use and reflect on PureData and Open-Source culture.


In order to provide a theoretical and artistic context for the understanding of 
the aesthetics and politics of Free and Open-Source software culture, papers 
from widely divergent perspectives are encouraged.


Abstracts and papers may be submitted in either French or English. There will 
be three primary papers streams: Technical, Artistic and Theoretical.


Some possible themes could include:

- programming PureData externals
- PureData versus Max/MSP
- interfacing with sensors and actuators
- real-time responsive, immersive and interactive environments
- hacking PureData
- using PureData in installations
- use of PureData in live performance
- sampling and Plunderphonics as artistic strategies
- re-evaluating Umberto Eco's The Open Work
- OpenContent and Creatve Commons versus Intellectual Property
- Hactivist culture
- using PureData in science and research
- finding an Art Historical context for Open-Source Software Art
- physical computing interfaces
- biological and medical uses of PureData
- et cetera


please read the application guidelines:
http://www.puredata.org/community/projects/convention07/guidelines/

and submit your abstract of full paper via the online form before April 15, 
2007:

http://pure-data.ca/openconf.php

Questions can be directed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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L'œuvre ouverte | Convention PureData '07
* 21 au 26 août 2007 | Montréal Canada *

deuxième appel de exposés - date de tombée prolongée

nouvelle date de tombée pour abstraites : 15 avril, 2007
annonce des résultats : 31 mai, 2007
date de rendu finale : 30 juin, 2007

pour plus d'information:
http://www.puredata.org/community/projects/convention07/

formulaire de soumission en-ligne:
http://pure-data.ca/openconf.php

La comité organisateur de la Convention PureData '07 accepte maintenant des 
abstraits d'exposés destinés à être inclus dans L'œuvre ouverte, la 2ième 
Convention International PureData. L'œuvre ouverte invite une relation ouverte 
entre L'œuvre d'art et le grand public même des attitudes et pratiques ouvertes 
dans les champs de la programmation d'ordinateur, la création artistique et la 
recherche scientifique. La convention réunira les artistes, les ecrivain(e)s, 
les programmeurs et bien d'autres que développent, utilisent et réfléchissent 
sur PureData et la culture de «Open-Source».


En tant de donner un contexte théorique et artistique pour la compréhension des 
enjeux esthétiques et politiques de la culture de logiciel libre, des exposés 
provenantes des perspectives divergentes seront encouragées.


Des abstraites et des exposés peuvent être soumises sois en français ou en 
anglais. Il y aura trois rubriques de thématique principale: technique, 
artistique, théorique.


Des possibilités de sujets abordés peuvent inclure:

- la programmation d'externals PureData
- PureData contre Max/MSP
- les interfaces avec des sensors et des actuateurs
- des environnements temps-réel, immersive et interactive
- PureData pour des «hackers»
- installations avec PureData
- PureData en direct
- échantillonnage et «Plunderphonics» comme stratégies artistiques
- un nouveau volet sur «L'œuvre ouverte» de Umberto Eco
- «OpenContent» et «Creatve Commons» contre la propriété intellectuelle
- la culture des «Hactivists»
- PureData utilisé dans la science et la recherche
- trouver un contexte dans l'histoire d'art pour l'art de logiciels libres
- les interfaces physiques vers la computation
- les usages biologiques et médicales de PureData
- et cetera


Lire attentivement les notes d'instruction:
http://www.puredata.org/community/projects/convention07/guidelines/

Soumettre votre abstraite ou votre exposé complet par le formulaire en-ligne 
avant le 15 avril, 2007:

http://pure-data.ca/openconf.php

Pour des questions: 

[PD] glui sensor workshop @ tesla (April, 24th-28th)

2007-04-02 Thread Sukandar Kartadinata
Hi, we have a few places left for the upcoming glui sensor workshop @  
tesla berlin.
So act fast if you're interested!

All details at
http://www.glui.de/?jump=workshop
(make sure to check the 'general notes')
and
http://tesla-berlin.de/_page.php?aktion=SHOW_PAGEPage_ID=305
(workshop will be all day, not just 18-22h)

Contact me directly if you want to participate or have questions.

all best,
Sukandar


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Re: [PD] 'org.puredata.pd.wish.plist' file?

2007-04-02 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner

Oops, this one got lost in the fray.  You'll probably have better  
luck posting to the pd-list, which I cc'ed.

I don't think that org.puredata.pd.wish.plist has anything to do with  
the problem you mention.  There are a number of differences in  
graphical layout between versions, unfortunately.  I am currently  
working to fix this in the next release of Pd-0.39.2-extended.

.hc

On Feb 16, 2007, at 10:40 AM, Björn Eriksson wrote:

 Hello Hans-Christoph!
 I have a question about a file called  
 org.puredata.pd.wish.plist  I am working with Jerome Joy  
 delivering some audio streams on the Locus Sonus project. They have  
 changed to a better server and also did an update on the audio  
 stream patch. For the new patch I d/l:ed the latest install for  
 Windows -- (yes i am a pc guy!!) and when opening the patch there  
 were several mismatches in the graphical layout of the patch - - -  
 seemed to work though - -but the graphics were a mess. So my  
 question to you if I have to replace the above file - - or what you  
 think might have gone wrong?...

 I am verry happy for any hints- - - -I can send you the patch  
 aswell and more info - if you have time to leave a hint or two why  
 this is happening.

 Yours,
 Björn Eriksson (aka Miulew)






 Le 16 févr. 07 à 16:07, Björn Eriksson a écrit :

 Hello!
 No i did not. I look into that...  what is the purpose with that
 file? Is it in a different folder than the install?  I guess I can
 search for info on this on myself -- but any help is appreciated.

 this file contains list of the different libs used by Pd. Anyway,
 this file is necessary on osX for all moves and updates of the Pd
 software. But maybe it's a feature on Mac only.
 Before next monday, you may ask Hans-Christof: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the
 owner and the developer of Pd installers)

 news next Monday


 Best
 jerome





 Yours,
 /Björn


 - Original Message - From: Jerome Joy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Björn Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 10:15 AM
 Subject: Re: hi Björn: a proposition





 About Pd and our patch,

 do you delete and replace the 'org.puredata.pd.wish.plist' file?
 On a Mac, we need to replace this file.
 Maybe, this feature is important for the recognition of graphics
 and  the locations of boxes into the patch.


 thanks a lot
 Best
 jerome


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Re: [PD] pda --no-TK ?

2007-04-02 Thread Chris McCormick
On Mon, Apr 02, 2007 at 04:19:16PM +0200, alejo d wrote:
 we are in the process of installing pda[1] to an embedded device aka
 gumstix.
 the buildroot of the so called device has TCL but of course, no TK.
 
 we were told to install TK manually but i has dependencies on X11 and is an
 embedded device that has no display to control and is intended to run fast
 and lightly.
 
 has anyone go around something similar before? any advice on what route to
 take?

Hi,

You might also like to take a look at gp2xPd since it builds PDa without
the gui libraries. There's a description of how I did that in the file
src/gp2x.readme which is available in a patched version of PDa. So
download PDa 0.6 from Güenter's site, then apply the patch from here:
http://mccormick.cx/projects/gp2xPd/files/gp2x-PDa.patch and then
read the file src/gp2x.readme and have a look at the gp2x section in the
makefiles. You should be able to use something very similar for gumstix.

So great that you are porting to gumstix - let us know how it runs.

Best,

Chris.

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[PD] curve object not working right

2007-04-02 Thread nosehair911
hello,
When I use the curve object it wont render past 10 inputs.  For example [curve 
10] works but [curve 11] 
or above doesnt.  Is this normal and if it is not what do /i do to fix it.  It 
is the latest gem running on either 
PD .39.2 or .40.2 os 10.4.9.

Thanks,
Alain


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Re: [PD] curve object not working right

2007-04-02 Thread chris clepper

This is a limitation of the OpenGL implementations.  Nothing we can do about
it really.

On 4/2/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


hello,
When I use the curve object it wont render past 10 inputs.  For example
[curve 10] works but [curve 11]
or above doesnt.  Is this normal and if it is not what do /i do to fix
it.  It is the latest gem running on either
PD .39.2 or .40.2 os 10.4.9.

Thanks,
Alain


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Re: [PD] Sigmund and Sort (Was Real-time frequency filtering and analysis)

2007-04-02 Thread David Powers
On 4/2/07, robbert van hulzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 alternatively, if you don't want to compile yourself: the 0.40.2 autobuilds
 on puredate.info have recent versions (i assume you want = 0.40.2 because
 of [sigmund~]).


Hi, I think you mean:
puredata.info
NOT
pureDATE.info

;-)

~David

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