Re: [PD] call for PDP testing on Mac OS X
same here. hmm, at least, when X11 is running, then it is possible to use pdp_glx for output. and for input I used pdp_noise just to see what is happening, and that combination gices me an output window and a working patch (both in test6 and rc2). I think for input I want to use pdp_qt? or what is another object for live input? marius. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > pdp_v4l won't work on Mac OS X, since v4l = video4linux. As for what to > do about getting pdp_xv to work, I have no idea. I tried a bit, and > only succeeded in getting Pd to crash. [pdp_sdl] is built in there, but > doesn't seem to do anything but crash. Here are the messages I found: > > > .hc > > On Apr 20, 2007, at 12:08 AM, marius schebella wrote: > >> yes, that is true, but pdp_xv is not working. so I cannot really say, >> if the rest is. >> what is the output window called on osx? >> marius. >> >> Kyle Klipowicz wrote: >>> My first test, opening pdp example 1 in pd-0.39.2-extended-rc1, loads >>> every object but pdp_v41. >>> ~Kyle >>> On 4/19/07, marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hi hans, where should that pdp version be? in the nightly autobuilds? btw. it seems there is an intel binary now? thanks for that. but pdp did not work for me. the first thing to solve would be the output window. which I don't see how to create? marius. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > I would like to get PDP and PiDiP working well on Mac OS X in the > upcoming release. I don't use PDP, so I don't know how to test it. > So I am calling on all of you to tell me what's broken. > > http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html > > PDP is now compiled with libSDL, so that might also give Mac OS X > users a new output option. > > .hc > > > > > > Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. > It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and > expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war > on terrorism.- retired U.S. Army general, William Odom > > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick.-David > Zicarelli > > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] call for PDP testing on Mac OS X
pdp_v4l won't work on Mac OS X, since v4l = video4linux. As for what to do about getting pdp_xv to work, I have no idea. I tried a bit, and only succeeded in getting Pd to crash. [pdp_sdl] is built in there, but doesn't seem to do anything but crash. Here are the messages I found: pdp_sdl-help.pd Description: Binary data .hc On Apr 20, 2007, at 12:08 AM, marius schebella wrote: yes, that is true, but pdp_xv is not working. so I cannot really say, if the rest is. what is the output window called on osx? marius. Kyle Klipowicz wrote: My first test, opening pdp example 1 in pd-0.39.2-extended-rc1, loads every object but pdp_v41. ~Kyle On 4/19/07, marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: hi hans, where should that pdp version be? in the nightly autobuilds? btw. it seems there is an intel binary now? thanks for that. but pdp did not work for me. the first thing to solve would be the output window. which I don't see how to create? marius. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > I would like to get PDP and PiDiP working well on Mac OS X in the > upcoming release. I don't use PDP, so I don't know how to test it. > So I am calling on all of you to tell me what's broken. > > http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html > > PDP is now compiled with libSDL, so that might also give Mac OS X > users a new output option. > > .hc > > > > > > Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. > It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and > expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war > on terrorism.- retired U.S. Army general, William Odom > > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http:// lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick.- David Zicarelli ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] webcam recommendations which work in Linux
Thanks for the reply. Regarding fw solutions, I do have ADVC but that one eats my CPU like crazy. Are there any fw solutions which are less CPU greedy? Also regarding wireless/ip cameras, can those be interfaced with PD? Ico > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Alexandre Quessy > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 11:28 PM > To: Ivica Ico Bukvic > Cc: PD-list@iem.at; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [PD] webcam recommendations which work in Linux > > Hi, > I had a good experience with the Logitech QuickCam for Notebooks > Deluxe. Logitech QuickCam in general are a good suggestion. I had > success with firewire as well, which allows more flexibility, of > course. > > a > > 2007/4/19, Ivica Ico Bukvic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi all, > > > > I've seen a lot of discussion recently on the list regarding which > webcam to > > use but none of the recommendations seem feasible. They are either > > discontinued hard-to-find products or they simply don't work. For this > > reason, I was wondering if anyone has a recommendation which webcam to > get > > for Linux if I want a balance between fps, resolution, and stability. I > also > > read about IP cameras but am not sure if these can be interfaces with > gem. > > > > Any help is most appreciated! > > > > Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. > > Composition, Music Technology, CCTAD, CHCI > > Virginia Tech > > Dept. of Music - 0240 > > Blacksburg, VA 24061 > > (540) 231-1137 > > (540) 231-5034 (fax) > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.music.vt.edu/people/faculty/bukvic/ > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > -- > Alexandre Quessy > http://alexandre.quessy.net > http://www.puredata.info/Members/aalex ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] call for PDP testing on Mac OS X
yes, that is true, but pdp_xv is not working. so I cannot really say, if the rest is. what is the output window called on osx? marius. Kyle Klipowicz wrote: > My first test, opening pdp example 1 in pd-0.39.2-extended-rc1, loads > every object but pdp_v41. > > ~Kyle > > On 4/19/07, marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> hi hans, >> where should that pdp version be? in the nightly autobuilds? >> btw. it seems there is an intel binary now? thanks for that. >> but pdp did not work for me. >> the first thing to solve would be the output window. which I don't see >> how to create? >> marius. >> >> Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> > I would like to get PDP and PiDiP working well on Mac OS X in the >> > upcoming release. I don't use PDP, so I don't know how to test it. >> > So I am calling on all of you to tell me what's broken. >> > >> > http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html >> > >> > PDP is now compiled with libSDL, so that might also give Mac OS X >> > users a new output option. >> > >> > .hc >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> > Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. >> > It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and >> > expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war >> > on terrorism.- retired U.S. Army general, William Odom >> > >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > PD-list@iem.at mailing list >> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > >> >> >> ___ >> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] webcam recommendations which work in Linux
Hi, I had a good experience with the Logitech QuickCam for Notebooks Deluxe. Logitech QuickCam in general are a good suggestion. I had success with firewire as well, which allows more flexibility, of course. a 2007/4/19, Ivica Ico Bukvic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi all, > > I've seen a lot of discussion recently on the list regarding which webcam to > use but none of the recommendations seem feasible. They are either > discontinued hard-to-find products or they simply don't work. For this > reason, I was wondering if anyone has a recommendation which webcam to get > for Linux if I want a balance between fps, resolution, and stability. I also > read about IP cameras but am not sure if these can be interfaces with gem. > > Any help is most appreciated! > > Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. > Composition, Music Technology, CCTAD, CHCI > Virginia Tech > Dept. of Music - 0240 > Blacksburg, VA 24061 > (540) 231-1137 > (540) 231-5034 (fax) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.music.vt.edu/people/faculty/bukvic/ > > > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > -- Alexandre Quessy http://alexandre.quessy.net http://www.puredata.info/Members/aalex ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] call for PDP testing on Mac OS X
My first test, opening pdp example 1 in pd-0.39.2-extended-rc1, loads every object but pdp_v41. ~Kyle On 4/19/07, marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi hans, > where should that pdp version be? in the nightly autobuilds? > btw. it seems there is an intel binary now? thanks for that. > but pdp did not work for me. > the first thing to solve would be the output window. which I don't see > how to create? > marius. > > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > I would like to get PDP and PiDiP working well on Mac OS X in the > > upcoming release. I don't use PDP, so I don't know how to test it. > > So I am calling on all of you to tell me what's broken. > > > > http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html > > > > PDP is now compiled with libSDL, so that might also give Mac OS X > > users a new output option. > > > > .hc > > > > > > > > > > > > Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. > > It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and > > expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war > > on terrorism.- retired U.S. Army general, William Odom > > > > > > > > ___ > > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (()()()(()))()()())( (())(())()((( ))(__ _())(()))___ (((000)))oOO ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] call for PDP testing on Mac OS X
hi hans, where should that pdp version be? in the nightly autobuilds? btw. it seems there is an intel binary now? thanks for that. but pdp did not work for me. the first thing to solve would be the output window. which I don't see how to create? marius. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > I would like to get PDP and PiDiP working well on Mac OS X in the > upcoming release. I don't use PDP, so I don't know how to test it. > So I am calling on all of you to tell me what's broken. > > http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html > > PDP is now compiled with libSDL, so that might also give Mac OS X > users a new output option. > > .hc > > > > > > Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. > It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and > expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war > on terrorism.- retired U.S. Army general, William Odom > > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] webcam recommendations which work in Linux
Hi all, I've seen a lot of discussion recently on the list regarding which webcam to use but none of the recommendations seem feasible. They are either discontinued hard-to-find products or they simply don't work. For this reason, I was wondering if anyone has a recommendation which webcam to get for Linux if I want a balance between fps, resolution, and stability. I also read about IP cameras but am not sure if these can be interfaces with gem. Any help is most appreciated! Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Composition, Music Technology, CCTAD, CHCI Virginia Tech Dept. of Music - 0240 Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540) 231-1137 (540) 231-5034 (fax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.music.vt.edu/people/faculty/bukvic/ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] I created an ebuild for pd-0.40-p2
It seems that these ebuild files could use the existing build system
quite easily. The existing system isn't always pretty, but it
works. And ultimately we will both be better off if we join forces
rather than have duplicate efforts. I am definitely open to
improving the existing system. And I can help get you up to speed
via email, IM, IRC, voice, whatever.
For example, in maxlib/maxlib-.ebuild, it could call the existing
build system like this:
src_compile() {
make -C /path/to/pure-data/externals maxlib
}
src_install() {
make -C /path/to/pure-data/externals DESTDIR="${D}" maxlib_install
}
And that would be enough to build and install. This is how it was
done for PlanetCCRMA. Then you could generate this same .ebuild file
using a script for all of the libraries built by Pd-extended. That
also means that a given developer could manage just their own
Makefile, and the changes will automatically be used in all the
builds, including the gentoo. Otherwise, you'll have to keep up with
the changes that developers make to their own code.
Here is the current list of libraries that are built this way: boids
bsaylor creb cxc cyclone deprecated ekext ext13 flatspace flib
freeverb ggee hardware hcs iem_ambi iem_bin_ambi iemlib jasch_lib
loaders mapping markex maxlib mjlib motex mrpeach msd oscx pan pddp
pdogg pmpd sigpack smlib toxy unauthorized vbap zexy pdcontainer
adaptive iem_delay iem_roomsim iem_spec2 iem_tab flashserver iemgui
iem_adaptfilt iemmatrix iem_matrix iemxmlrpc iem16 earplug hid pdp
pidip hdspm_mixer
On Apr 19, 2007, at 2:53 PM, federico wrote:
> My advice is to leave the overlay on SVN, also because (hopefully) one
> day those ebuilds will go in the official gentoo repository, or at
> least in gentoo-sunrise (one of the biggest addon repos), so the task
> of syncing ebuilds will be totally transparent (it est: managed by
> emerge --sync).
>
> until that day, you can add two commands that sync pd-related ebuilds
> from our repository, just before the line that compiles everything
> (that will be: emerge media-sound/pd media-plugins/zexy
> media-plugins/maxlib ...) into your cron job:
>
> ---[gentoo nightly build script]-
> pushd /usr/local/overlays
> svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pd-overlay/pd-overlay
> popd
> # emerging stuff, like:
> # emerge pd maxlib zexy 2>&1 | tee emerge-pd.log
> ---[end]-
>
> so, whenever something breaks in the gentoo build farm, it could
> depend on two factors:
>
> 1) I (or someone of pd-overlay team) has made some mistake in the
> ebuild script. I will fix that (pls file bugs at
> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?
> atid=892936&group_id=180376&func=browse)
>
> 2) A developer changed something (tipically a Makefile) breaking the
> gentoo install someway (this can be fixed by both, just a matter of
> deciding *what* to fix, if the Makefile or the ebuild) or breaking the
> gentoo compile (this often should be solved upstream)
>
>> I don't use gentoo at all, so I'll leave that up to you. Maybe a
>> good way to manage this is that you guys make releases of pd-overlay,
>> I check those releases into the pure-data CVS. Then the nightly
>> auto-
>> builds run using the stuff in pure-data CVS.
>
> I don't think repo-releases are needed.
Right now, one of the key reasons why the auto-build farm is limited
to the pure-data CVS on SourceForge is because of security.
Basically, anyone who has commit access to the pure-data CVS can run
any script they want on all of the machines. Therefore, I need to
keep tabs on what scripts are being added to the CVS. I also know
who has commit access to the pure-data CVS.
Ideally, I wouldn't have to worry about security, but these machines
are hosted by the university I work at. If they get hacked, IT will
tell me to remove them from the network. Then we have no more auto-
build farm.
> We try to put into SVN only working ebuilds (tested on our computers);
> the simplest ebuild that compiles and installs with:
> ./configure && make && make install
> should be 100% fail-safe
>
> But the point is: actually 99% of our ebuilds have version - (a
> convention to mean that their sources are pulled from Pd CVS) so they
> are more subject to break on CVS changes, especially when Makefile
> stuff like PREFIX and DESTDIR gets touched (!)
>
> Making releases/snapshots for *every* external would help a lot
> improving reliability; though this is not primary purpose of the
> project; would be better to rely that each commit on pd-cvs doesn't
> break anything :)
>
> Also: like other package management, we could mark ebuilds unstable,
> testing or stable, with simple use of keywords (please see the gentoo
> manual for more detail on this)
>
>
>> The key to making this work is having pd-overlay use the same
>> directory structure as the pure-data CVS.
>
> can you explain better what do you me
Re: [PD] list without spaces (gottlieb)
There is an excellent sampler architecture in the pdmtl abstractions called the sample_id format. It probably does what you need. Download the release here: http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions Try out the examples in pdmtl/examples/sample_id It can preload samples, load them in real time, send them to multiple targets, visualize the sample. change the play region, etc... Tom ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] debian packages WAS: Re: Linux - which distribution to use?
On Apr 19, 2007, at 6:30 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> It would be quite straightforward to make debian packages from the >> Pd- >> extended build system. I helped nando from CCRMA make PlanetCCRMA >> packages from the Pd-extended build system, so we worked out most of >> the kinks. > > Are these seperate packages for externals/abstractions and Pd itself? > The Debian packages for Pd are already very good and current thanks to > Guenter's work for several years, as are the Gem packages. But what's > missing is a package with more externals for those, who don't want to > compile everything on their own. As this package is more likely to > collect lots of bug reports in the Debian BTS (because of sheer size > of the package) and thus may put quite a burden on the official Debian > maintainer, this pd-externals package may be easier to maintain > outside of Debian. The idea is to make a package for each library, then a separate package for pd-extended with would be Pd-vanilla with the patches in packages/patches. That's how things are broken out in externals/ Makefile and in PlanetCCRMA (and a bit in the current Debian packages). And I think it makes sense here. Then it also makes for a clear path for people to make packages for their own Pd libs outside of the pure-data CVS, if they so choose. .hc > > Ciao > -- > Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list News is what people want to keep hidden and everything else is publicity. - Bill Moyers ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Wiimote
You should use midi yoke nt as loopback, install their midi-oxe as well. Remeber to update directX once in a while. I have GlovePIE running with latest version of both pd-vanilla/xtended. Just for a short test. mvh Steffen Leve Poulsen Patco skrev: > Mike Wozniewski a écrit : >> I think that the easiest way is to use GlovePIE, and route wiimote >> messages to MIDI, keypresses, etc. >> >> see: http://carl.kenner.googlepages.com/glovepie_download >> >> -Mike >> >> > Anyone has been able to connect pd and glovepie with a virtualmidi port? > I've tried with mapple driver and pd extended 0.39-RC1, pd crashes when > I open it if I do use the same MIDI input port as glovepie midi output > device, and pd-vanilla gives a "PortMidi: `Host error'" message > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd 64 binary and gem 64 binary
Hallo, yukio kuroiwa hat gesagt: // yukio kuroiwa wrote: > is there any 64 pd binary for linux? and gem binary for 64 bit linux > machines ? Yes, there are packages in Debian for amd64. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Linux - which distribution to use?
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > It would be quite straightforward to make debian packages from the Pd- > extended build system. I helped nando from CCRMA make PlanetCCRMA > packages from the Pd-extended build system, so we worked out most of > the kinks. Are these seperate packages for externals/abstractions and Pd itself? The Debian packages for Pd are already very good and current thanks to Guenter's work for several years, as are the Gem packages. But what's missing is a package with more externals for those, who don't want to compile everything on their own. As this package is more likely to collect lots of bug reports in the Debian BTS (because of sheer size of the package) and thus may put quite a burden on the official Debian maintainer, this pd-externals package may be easier to maintain outside of Debian. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Linux - which distribution to use?
I happily use Ubuntu Edgy, with a pd-extended install. Also, I've found the following USB WiFi adapter to work out-of-the-box, if you don't have built-in WiFi. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833127151 The driver is already present as a module, so you just have to update your /etc/network/interfaces file. best, -David M. On 4/19/07, David Powers < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Question: I'm considering a dual boot because my old laptop with Debian died, and I got a new one, currently with XP (running blackbox for windows though, thanks Frank!). However, one thing I recall is that on my old laptop, the system was freezing until the kernel was patched. Having to patch the kernel before anything works. I also could never get that computer on the internet through USB wireless (it had no built in wireless card), and these days I pretty much depend on some sort of wireless connection to get on the internet, I'm mostly working away from home. I found that Debian was impossible to use without an internet connection, and it was quite a catch22 trying to fix anything, when I couldn't search for info and apt-get things to try to solve the problem. So, what I'm saying is, I WANT to intall Debian, but I'm very afraid to do so and have the same kind of probems. My newer computer (used one year) though, is a Dell Inspiron 630m, which my old employer let me keep when I left, while the old one was some PIII Toshiba. Can I expect an easier time with the install of Debian on a newer laptop? My friend led me to believe the problems were related to having an older laptop. Or should I try Ubuntu first if I'm doing it myself, and wait for 6 months for the Debian until I'm more comfortable with it all? I guess it's the hardware/wireless config + kernel recompiling that I'm worried about. ~David On 4/18/07, Frank Barknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hallo, > Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 17:01 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: > > > Me, too. Debian rules. Other than that pure:dyne rules as well. > > > > i agree, though ubuntu is also a debian derivative, but sometimes much > > easier to use than debian and from my experience comes with better > > maintained repos. as a beginner, i'd still vote for ubuntu. > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] list without spaces
see attachment tjers Steffen Leve Poulsen gottlieb skrev: dear List, This is a pretty basic query, I think. I am trying to make a sample-scrambler where I can nbavigate through a large database of samples. I'm using soundfiler to load all the samples and tabplay~ . I named all the samples array# (array1,array2,etc) I am trying to use list to allow me to shift the numeric value at the end of the array message, but how can I get rid of the space between 'array' and the new number? Or, is there another way to do this? thanks BG #N canvas 318 125 454 304 10; #X obj 147 171 print; #X obj 147 117 makefilename array%d.wav; #X msg 147 143 open \$1; #X floatatom 147 94 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X connect 1 0 2 0; #X connect 2 0 0 0; #X connect 3 0 1 0; ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Linux - which distribution to use?
On Apr 19, 2007, at 1:48 PM, Patco wrote: > Frank Barknecht a écrit : >> Hallo, >> Patco hat gesagt: // Patco wrote: >> >> >>> It would be so great if there was a repository where we could >>> find more >>> .pd_linux files precompiled for all architectures, and the cvs or >>> extended set of abstractions and extensions... >>> my one ct >>> >> >> You mean a kind of pd-externals archive: > In fact I didn't mean a kind of archive but a kind of apt repository > that would install or suggest the install of needed files for > particular > externals, installing an external would look like: > > apt-get install pd-nameofexternal > or > apt-get install pd-nameofabstractions > > It's true that having at least one mirrored external archive where we > could find all architectures versions would be nice. The auto-build farm is already set up to handle this, once there are debian packages. We are lacking a 64-bit x86 machine, anyone want to donate one? .hc > > > > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Linux - which distribution to use?
On Apr 19, 2007, at 9:04 AM, Patco wrote: > Frank Barknecht a écrit : >> Hallo, >> Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> >> >>> Unfortuntaely, Pd on ubuntu isn't quite that easy to install yet. >>> >> >> $ aptitude install puredata >> >> Externals are harder. >> >> Ciao >> > It would be so great if there was a repository where we could find > more > .pd_linux files precompiled for all architectures, and the cvs or > extended set of abstractions and extensions... > my one ct It would be quite straightforward to make debian packages from the Pd- extended build system. I helped nando from CCRMA make PlanetCCRMA packages from the Pd-extended build system, so we worked out most of the kinks. .hc > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list Access to computers should be unlimited and total. - the hacker ethic ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] FTGL
So the first results are not so promising. It didn't build on either Debian/stable or Mac OS X. Can anyone give me some of the hidden secrets to building FTGL? [EMAIL PROTECTED]:mac > xcodebuild (NOTE: project FTGL was written by an older version of Xcode (39) -- temporarily upgrading it to version 42 (without modifying project file)) === BUILDING NATIVE TARGET ftgl WITH THE DEFAULT CONFIGURATION (Default) === Checking Dependencies... CompileC build/FTGL.build/Default/ftgl.build/Objects-normal/ppc/ FTBitmapGlyph.o /Users/henry/Development/PROJECTS/FTGL/src/ FTBitmapGlyph.cpp normal ppc c++ com.apple.compilers.gcc.4_0 cd /Users/hans/code/pure-data/GemLibs/FTGL/mac /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 -x c++ -arch ppc -pipe -Wno-trigraphs -fno- exceptions -fno-rtti -fasm-blocks -g -Os -fmessage-length=0 -mtune=G4 -I/Users/hans/code/pure-data/GemLibs/FTGL/mac/build/FTGL.build/ Default/ftgl.build/ftgl.hmap -Wmost -Wno-four-char-constants -Wno- unknown-pragmas -F/Users/hans/code/pure-data/GemLibs/FTGL/mac/build/ Default -I/Users/hans/code/pure-data/GemLibs/FTGL/mac/build/Default/ include -IIncludes -I/Users/hans/code/pure-data/GemLibs/FTGL/mac/ build/FTGL.build/Default/ftgl.build/DerivedSources -c /Users/henry/ Development/PROJECTS/FTGL/src/FTBitmapGlyph.cpp -o /Users/hans/code/ pure-data/GemLibs/FTGL/mac/build/FTGL.build/Default/ftgl.build/ Objects-normal/ppc/FTBitmapGlyph.o powerpc-apple-darwin8-gcc-4.0.1: /Users/henry/Development/PROJECTS/ FTGL/src/FTBitmapGlyph.cpp: No such file or directory powerpc-apple-darwin8-gcc-4.0.1: warning: '-x c++' after last input file has no effect powerpc-apple-darwin8-gcc-4.0.1: no input files ** BUILD FAILED ** g++ -c -I../../include -g -O2 -I/usr/include/freetype2 ../../src/ FTGLTextureFont.cpp -o FTGLTextureFont.o ../../include/FTTextureGlyph.h:55: error: extra qualification 'FTTextureGlyph::' on member 'ResetActiveTexture' make[1]: *** [FTGLTextureFont.lo] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/GemLibs/ FTGL/unix/src' make[1]: Entering directory `/home/pd/auto-build/pd-extended/GemLibs/ FTGL/unix/demo' GLUT not available, demo won't be compiled Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war on terrorism.- retired U.S. Army general, William Odom ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Linux - which distribution to use?
Wow... I am writing this from my first functional install of linux on my iMac G5. Debian seems really great. Talk about an installation that "just works" - well this is the first-ever on this machine. Cool! Thanks, Frank! Kevin On 4/19/07, Roman Haefeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 16:11 +0200, Malte Steiner wrote: > > There is an forthcomming Ubuntustudio project which should give better > > performance as stock Ubuntu but they are not finished or? > > on #ubuntustudio they told me, that it is planned to release ubuntu > studio this april. let's see... > > roman > > > > ___ > Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > -- http://pocketkm.blogspot.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] FTGL
On Apr 19, 2007, at 10:33 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > timon wrote: >> Hi, I posted a question last week on why [textextruded] wasnt working. I got the answer, GEM must be compiled with FTGL. So why was it changed in the first place? It seemed to be running fine (or sort of) and now it aint working at all. And sadly I dont know how to compile GEM with FTGL. >>> >>> please note that [textextruded] was only introduced into Gem >>> because of >>> FTGL (the old fontrendering library used was GLTT which had no such >>> thing as extruded text). >>> >>> so the answer is: in order to have [textextruded] working, you must >>> compile Gem with FTGL; there have never been another way to get >>> extruded >>> text. >>> >> >> The versions I have been using has all that working. And from what >> your >> saying, this version was compiled with FTGL.: >> GEM: ver: 0.90 >> GEM: compiled: Mar 8 2006 >> > > correct > >> >> >> This one is not: >> GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia >> GEM: ver: 0.91-cvs >> GEM: compiled: Apr 14 2007 >> >> So what your saying is that the current version of GEM is not >> compiled >> with FTGL. I guess what Im trying to get an answer to is why the >> current > > correct > >> version of GEM is not compiled with FTGL? Are there any plans for >> doing >> that (very impatient I know)? > > well of course; Gem's font support is designed to be compiled with > FTGL > on all platforms (btw, this was another bonus of using FTGL as it runs > on linux, os-x and w32) > > i don't know why your version of Gem is not compiled with FTGL, but i > doubt that i compiled it (so i am not to blame). > > if it is the version taken from pd-extended, than there is a reason > for > not having FTGL (well, even if it is not from pd-extended, i guess > there > is a reason for being compiled without FTGL; but in pd-extended i > happen > to know about it): > compiling Gem with FTGL requires FTGL to be available on the compiling > machine. > this is simply not the case on the pd-extended OS-X build-machine, > because there are no FTGL-packages available from fink. > while the (deprecated) GemLibs do have a version of FTGL checked > in, no > automated build-system is provided for it. > so FTGL gets not compiled on the build-system, which means that it is > not available for Gem. > > there are several things you can do about this: > - build Gem by hand (it is not that hard to do; you can find > step-by-step instructions how i did it in the gem-dev archives) > - try to get FTGL in GemLibs to be automatically build on the > buil-machine and make Gem use it > - try to get FTGL into fink If I get FTGL in GemLibs building with the autobuilds, will you guys keep FTGL there and accept my changes? The amount of time we've spent discussing why this hasn't happened is probably more time than it'll take to get just do it. .hc > > > > >> Whats the reason for this grand change? Any future benefits? Will it support a full UTF-8 character map? >>> like chris has said, there has not been a grand change regarding >>> fonts >>> for years. >>> and yes, the text-objects in current CVS support full Unicode >>> (well not >>> full: only the first 65000 or so) characters. >>> >> >> With regards to full character set... I did some tests a while back, > > a "while back" is probably out of date. > i have (hopefully) fixed this within the last 2 weeks. > i have only tested it on linux, so i would be glad for w32 and os-x > reports. > > mfasdr > IOhannes > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is related to the telescope. -Edsger Dykstra ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] FTGL
http://puredata.info/ On 19 Apr 2007, at 20:18, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 16:04 +0100, timon wrote: >> >> Be happy to load an external version. Is there a compiled version for >> OSX somewhere accessible? > > http://gem.iem.at/download.html > >> Had a look on the site and there are no >> links anywhere... > > which site are you referring? > > roman > > > > > ___ > Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http:// > messenger.yahoo.de > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Subject: Re: FTGL
On Apr 19, 2007, at 10:34 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > timon wrote: >>> GEM moved to FTGL years ago. This was not a recent change at all. >> >> Sure, but now its busted. Thats my point. From what I understand, the >> current GEM version on cvs doesnt include FTGL. Yes? >> > > neither does it include QuickTime or openGL (or linux, or a BIOS). > > the current GEM version (cvs) includes FTGL support. > compile Gem on a machine with FTGL available, and you get > [textextruded] We could check in FTGL into GemLibs, then it would be pretty straightforward to have the auto-builds use FTGL automatically on every platform. I would do it if I had commit access to GemLibs. .hc > > mfga.ösdr > IOhannes > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd 64 binary and gem 64 binary
is there any 64 pd binary for linux? and gem binary for 64 bit linux machines ? many thanx -- yukio kuroiwa [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Same, same, but different ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] FTGL
On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 16:04 +0100, timon wrote: > > Be happy to load an external version. Is there a compiled version for > OSX somewhere accessible? http://gem.iem.at/download.html > Had a look on the site and there are no > links anywhere... which site are you referring? roman ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Linux - which distribution to use?
On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 16:11 +0200, Malte Steiner wrote: > There is an forthcomming Ubuntustudio project which should give better > performance as stock Ubuntu but they are not finished or? on #ubuntustudio they told me, that it is planned to release ubuntu studio this april. let's see... roman ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] I created an ebuild for pd-0.40-p2
On 4/18/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > also: in gentoo binary packages aren't much in use. gentoo *is* a > > build farm: the user compiles the softwares that wants to installs, > > choosing compile options via tag-like switches (USE flags). (you can > > actually use it to build binary packages working out-of-the-box) > > that information is handled in ebuilds, special shell scripts that > > have the "version&dependency > > check,fetch,unpack,compile,test,install,merge" recipe. > > > > so a gentoo repository it's just a collection of ebuilds, metadata and > > changelogs, no bin packages. > > The point of the auto-build farm is not only to provide binaries. > Actually it performs more important duties: it builds every night > from to make sure that recent checkins to CVS didn't break anything; I see. That is good, > and, it gives developers an easy way to make sure that their code > works on other platforms without having to run builds themselves. > That is why there should be a gentoo machine in the auto-build farm. ok, got it. My advice is to leave the overlay on SVN, also because (hopefully) one day those ebuilds will go in the official gentoo repository, or at least in gentoo-sunrise (one of the biggest addon repos), so the task of syncing ebuilds will be totally transparent (it est: managed by emerge --sync). until that day, you can add two commands that sync pd-related ebuilds from our repository, just before the line that compiles everything (that will be: emerge media-sound/pd media-plugins/zexy media-plugins/maxlib ...) into your cron job: ---[gentoo nightly build script]- pushd /usr/local/overlays svn co https://svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pd-overlay/pd-overlay popd # emerging stuff, like: # emerge pd maxlib zexy 2>&1 | tee emerge-pd.log ---[end]- so, whenever something breaks in the gentoo build farm, it could depend on two factors: 1) I (or someone of pd-overlay team) has made some mistake in the ebuild script. I will fix that (pls file bugs at https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=892936&group_id=180376&func=browse) 2) A developer changed something (tipically a Makefile) breaking the gentoo install someway (this can be fixed by both, just a matter of deciding *what* to fix, if the Makefile or the ebuild) or breaking the gentoo compile (this often should be solved upstream) > I don't use gentoo at all, so I'll leave that up to you. Maybe a > good way to manage this is that you guys make releases of pd-overlay, > I check those releases into the pure-data CVS. Then the nightly auto- > builds run using the stuff in pure-data CVS. I don't think repo-releases are needed. We try to put into SVN only working ebuilds (tested on our computers); the simplest ebuild that compiles and installs with: ./configure && make && make install should be 100% fail-safe But the point is: actually 99% of our ebuilds have version - (a convention to mean that their sources are pulled from Pd CVS) so they are more subject to break on CVS changes, especially when Makefile stuff like PREFIX and DESTDIR gets touched (!) Making releases/snapshots for *every* external would help a lot improving reliability; though this is not primary purpose of the project; would be better to rely that each commit on pd-cvs doesn't break anything :) Also: like other package management, we could mark ebuilds unstable, testing or stable, with simple use of keywords (please see the gentoo manual for more detail on this) > The key to making this work is having pd-overlay use the same > directory structure as the pure-data CVS. can you explain better what do you mean? pd-overlay has the structure of a gentoo ebuild tree. I don't believe it can be altered in some way > I've never installed gentoo. Could you point me to a CD image to > install? Also, once it's installed, will you install all of the > dependencies? I'll give you shell access to do that. Please > document this on a wiki page too. if you are going to install gentoo on x86 arch: * get the install ISO here: http://bouncer.gentoo.org/?product=gentoo-2006.1-minimal&os=x86 * refer to the x86 handbook for installing: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml the same applies for other archs, like ppc, ia64, amd64, ppc64, hppa, alpha, ... dependencies are checked automatically, so emerge-ing pd would install also Xorg, alsa, tcl, tk, etc anyway I can check your box for consistance :) just do the initial part of the install so that it can be bootable, then mail me ssh access, or let us meet on irc -- Federico ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] call for PDP testing on Mac OS X
I would like to get PDP and PiDiP working well on Mac OS X in the upcoming release. I don't use PDP, so I don't know how to test it. So I am calling on all of you to tell me what's broken. http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html PDP is now compiled with libSDL, so that might also give Mac OS X users a new output option. .hc Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war on terrorism.- retired U.S. Army general, William Odom ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Linux - which distribution to use?
personally, i'd try debian first and if your new machine has built in wireless, use ndiswrapper. the wiki has very good documentation and i've set up several people's machines (all dells except mine) with this. best, p > Original Message > Subject: Re: [PD] Linux - which distribution to use? > From: "David Powers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, April 19, 2007 10:43 am > To: pd-list@iem.at > > Question: I'm considering a dual boot because my old laptop with > Debian died, and I got a new one, currently with XP (running blackbox > for windows though, thanks Frank!). However, one thing I recall is > that on my old laptop, the system was freezing until the kernel was > patched. Having to patch the kernel before anything works. I also > could never get that computer on the internet through USB wireless (it > had no built in wireless card), and these days I pretty much depend on > some sort of wireless connection to get on the internet, I'm mostly > working away from home. I found that Debian was impossible to use > without an internet connection, and it was quite a catch22 trying to > fix anything, when I couldn't search for info and apt-get things to > try to solve the problem. So, what I'm saying is, I WANT to intall > Debian, but I'm very afraid to do so and have the same kind of > probems. My newer computer (used one year) though, is a Dell Inspiron > 630m, which my old employer let me keep when I left, while the old one > was some PIII Toshiba. Can I expect an easier time with the install of > Debian on a newer laptop? My friend led me to believe the problems > were related to having an older laptop. Or should I try Ubuntu first > if I'm doing it myself, and wait for 6 months for the Debian until I'm > more comfortable with it all? I guess it's the hardware/wireless > config + kernel recompiling that I'm worried about. ~David On 4/18/07, > Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman > Haefeli wrote: > > > On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 17:01 +0200, Frank > Barknecht wrote: > > > Me, too. Debian rules. Other than that > pure:dyne rules as well. > > > > i agree, though ubuntu is also a > debian derivative, but sometimes much > > easier to use than debian > and from my experience comes with better > > maintained repos. as a > beginner, i'd still vote for ubuntu. > > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing > list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] can't run Gem in Fedora with generic graphics (no GLX shader)?
Oh yes, I had tried "disable-ARB" hoping that would turn off glsl :) I haven't tried "--with-glversion"... will do that next time I guess. thanks Miller On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 08:58:26AM +0200, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > Miller Puckette wrote: > > >> .hc > >> > > I agree with Hans-Christohpe. I finally got Gem running on my machine > > simply > > by deleting all the "manips" starting with glsl (just deleted the files and > > recompiled). The easiest thing would be just adding a configure switch, > > but it might be smarter to spin off code that has non-free dependencies into > > one or more separate libs. > > well, i have had a hard time with configure switches: i once added the > disable-NV and disable-ARB switches, which just delayed the problem till > the advent of the glsl-shaders; i don't think a configure switch for any > possible driver is doable > so i ended up providing a very generic configure switch > "--with-glversion" which should allow you to enforce that no calls from > openGL-specs higher than the given version number are used. > e.g. "--with-glversion=1.5" should disable all openGL-2.0 (and up) > calls, which effectively also disables the glsl-stuff. > in my experience, this works pretty well. > > chris has proposed this already for you, have you tried it and did it > not work? > > deleting files from the canonical source is definitely not the way to go > (on the long run), > > > mfga.sdr > IOhannes > > does anyone know (or rather: is there) a way to dynamically link objects > together and then strip all unused dependencies? > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Linux - which distribution to use?
Frank Barknecht a écrit : > Hallo, > Patco hat gesagt: // Patco wrote: > > >> It would be so great if there was a repository where we could find more >> .pd_linux files precompiled for all architectures, and the cvs or >> extended set of abstractions and extensions... >> my one ct >> > > You mean a kind of pd-externals archive: In fact I didn't mean a kind of archive but a kind of apt repository that would install or suggest the install of needed files for particular externals, installing an external would look like: apt-get install pd-nameofexternal or apt-get install pd-nameofabstractions It's true that having at least one mirrored external archive where we could find all architectures versions would be nice. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Linux - which distribution to use?
a little bit old (feb 2006), but here's some .pd_linux for i686 - pentium4: http://www.workinprogress.ca/pd/pdlinux/ the thing is, some of the externals will not work because they need some libraries or the flext lib. pat ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] FTGL
Yes Im using the PD extended. Its a shame that this is changed. Sure there will be others with similar questions. Be happy to load an external version. Is there a compiled version for OSX somewhere accessible? Had a look on the site and there are no links anywhere... Thanks for the feedback. Best, T. On 19 Apr 2007, at 15:33, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > timon wrote: >> Hi, I posted a question last week on why [textextruded] wasnt working. I got the answer, GEM must be compiled with FTGL. So why was it changed in the first place? It seemed to be running fine (or sort of) and now it aint working at all. And sadly I dont know how to compile GEM with FTGL. >>> >>> please note that [textextruded] was only introduced into Gem >>> because of >>> FTGL (the old fontrendering library used was GLTT which had no such >>> thing as extruded text). >>> >>> so the answer is: in order to have [textextruded] working, you must >>> compile Gem with FTGL; there have never been another way to get >>> extruded >>> text. >>> >> >> The versions I have been using has all that working. And from what >> your >> saying, this version was compiled with FTGL.: >> GEM: ver: 0.90 >> GEM: compiled: Mar 8 2006 >> > > correct > >> >> >> This one is not: >> GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia >> GEM: ver: 0.91-cvs >> GEM: compiled: Apr 14 2007 >> >> So what your saying is that the current version of GEM is not >> compiled >> with FTGL. I guess what Im trying to get an answer to is why the >> current > > correct > >> version of GEM is not compiled with FTGL? Are there any plans for >> doing >> that (very impatient I know)? > > well of course; Gem's font support is designed to be compiled with > FTGL > on all platforms (btw, this was another bonus of using FTGL as it runs > on linux, os-x and w32) > > i don't know why your version of Gem is not compiled with FTGL, but i > doubt that i compiled it (so i am not to blame). > > if it is the version taken from pd-extended, than there is a reason > for > not having FTGL (well, even if it is not from pd-extended, i guess > there > is a reason for being compiled without FTGL; but in pd-extended i > happen > to know about it): > compiling Gem with FTGL requires FTGL to be available on the compiling > machine. > this is simply not the case on the pd-extended OS-X build-machine, > because there are no FTGL-packages available from fink. > while the (deprecated) GemLibs do have a version of FTGL checked > in, no > automated build-system is provided for it. > so FTGL gets not compiled on the build-system, which means that it is > not available for Gem. > > there are several things you can do about this: > - build Gem by hand (it is not that hard to do; you can find > step-by-step instructions how i did it in the gem-dev archives) > - try to get FTGL in GemLibs to be automatically build on the > buil-machine and make Gem use it > - try to get FTGL into fink > > > > >> Whats the reason for this grand change? Any future benefits? Will it support a full UTF-8 character map? >>> like chris has said, there has not been a grand change regarding >>> fonts >>> for years. >>> and yes, the text-objects in current CVS support full Unicode >>> (well not >>> full: only the first 65000 or so) characters. >>> >> >> With regards to full character set... I did some tests a while back, > > a "while back" is probably out of date. > i have (hopefully) fixed this within the last 2 weeks. > i have only tested it on linux, so i would be glad for w32 and os-x > reports. > > mfasdr > IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Linux - which distribution to use?
Question: I'm considering a dual boot because my old laptop with Debian died, and I got a new one, currently with XP (running blackbox for windows though, thanks Frank!). However, one thing I recall is that on my old laptop, the system was freezing until the kernel was patched. Having to patch the kernel before anything works. I also could never get that computer on the internet through USB wireless (it had no built in wireless card), and these days I pretty much depend on some sort of wireless connection to get on the internet, I'm mostly working away from home. I found that Debian was impossible to use without an internet connection, and it was quite a catch22 trying to fix anything, when I couldn't search for info and apt-get things to try to solve the problem. So, what I'm saying is, I WANT to intall Debian, but I'm very afraid to do so and have the same kind of probems. My newer computer (used one year) though, is a Dell Inspiron 630m, which my old employer let me keep when I left, while the old one was some PIII Toshiba. Can I expect an easier time with the install of Debian on a newer laptop? My friend led me to believe the problems were related to having an older laptop. Or should I try Ubuntu first if I'm doing it myself, and wait for 6 months for the Debian until I'm more comfortable with it all? I guess it's the hardware/wireless config + kernel recompiling that I'm worried about. ~David On 4/18/07, Frank Barknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hallo, > Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: > > > On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 17:01 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: > > > Me, too. Debian rules. Other than that pure:dyne rules as well. > > > > i agree, though ubuntu is also a debian derivative, but sometimes much > > easier to use than debian and from my experience comes with better > > maintained repos. as a beginner, i'd still vote for ubuntu. > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Linux - which distribution to use?
Hallo, Patco hat gesagt: // Patco wrote: > It would be so great if there was a repository where we could find more > .pd_linux files precompiled for all architectures, and the cvs or > extended set of abstractions and extensions... > my one ct You mean a kind of pd-externals archive: Just abstractions and precompiled externals, but choose your own version of Pd? That would indeed be nice. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Subject: Re: FTGL
timon wrote: >> GEM moved to FTGL years ago. This was not a recent change at all. > > Sure, but now its busted. Thats my point. From what I understand, the > current GEM version on cvs doesnt include FTGL. Yes? > neither does it include QuickTime or openGL (or linux, or a BIOS). the current GEM version (cvs) includes FTGL support. compile Gem on a machine with FTGL available, and you get [textextruded] mfga.ösdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] FTGL
timon wrote: > >>> Hi, I posted a question last week on why [textextruded] wasnt working. I >>> got the answer, GEM must be compiled with FTGL. >>> So why was it changed in the first place? It seemed to be running fine >>> (or sort of) and now it aint working at all. And sadly I dont know how >>> to compile GEM with FTGL. >> >> please note that [textextruded] was only introduced into Gem because of >> FTGL (the old fontrendering library used was GLTT which had no such >> thing as extruded text). >> >> so the answer is: in order to have [textextruded] working, you must >> compile Gem with FTGL; there have never been another way to get extruded >> text. >> > > The versions I have been using has all that working. And from what your > saying, this version was compiled with FTGL.: > GEM: ver: 0.90 > GEM: compiled: Mar 8 2006 > correct > > > This one is not: > GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia > GEM: ver: 0.91-cvs > GEM: compiled: Apr 14 2007 > > So what your saying is that the current version of GEM is not compiled > with FTGL. I guess what Im trying to get an answer to is why the current correct > version of GEM is not compiled with FTGL? Are there any plans for doing > that (very impatient I know)? well of course; Gem's font support is designed to be compiled with FTGL on all platforms (btw, this was another bonus of using FTGL as it runs on linux, os-x and w32) i don't know why your version of Gem is not compiled with FTGL, but i doubt that i compiled it (so i am not to blame). if it is the version taken from pd-extended, than there is a reason for not having FTGL (well, even if it is not from pd-extended, i guess there is a reason for being compiled without FTGL; but in pd-extended i happen to know about it): compiling Gem with FTGL requires FTGL to be available on the compiling machine. this is simply not the case on the pd-extended OS-X build-machine, because there are no FTGL-packages available from fink. while the (deprecated) GemLibs do have a version of FTGL checked in, no automated build-system is provided for it. so FTGL gets not compiled on the build-system, which means that it is not available for Gem. there are several things you can do about this: - build Gem by hand (it is not that hard to do; you can find step-by-step instructions how i did it in the gem-dev archives) - try to get FTGL in GemLibs to be automatically build on the buil-machine and make Gem use it - try to get FTGL into fink > >>> >>> Whats the reason for this grand change? Any future benefits? Will it >>> support a full UTF-8 character map? >> like chris has said, there has not been a grand change regarding fonts >> for years. >> and yes, the text-objects in current CVS support full Unicode (well not >> full: only the first 65000 or so) characters. >> > > With regards to full character set... I did some tests a while back, a "while back" is probably out of date. i have (hopefully) fixed this within the last 2 weeks. i have only tested it on linux, so i would be glad for w32 and os-x reports. mfasdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Linux - which distribution to use?
My vote goes for 64 Studio which gave me the best realtime performance / low latency out of the box without tinkering. It comes in 64bit and 32bit versions and is based on Debian too. There is an forthcomming Ubuntustudio project which should give better performance as stock Ubuntu but they are not finished or? Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Subject: Re: FTGL
> GEM moved to FTGL years ago. This was not a recent change at all. Sure, but now its busted. Thats my point. From what I understand, the current GEM version on cvs doesnt include FTGL. Yes? > Hi, I posted a question last week on why [textextruded] wasnt > working. I > got the answer, GEM must be compiled with FTGL.So why was it > changed in > the first place? It seemed to be running fine (or sort of) and now > it aint > working at all. And sadly I dont know how to compile GEM with FTGL. > > Whats the reason for this grand change? Any future benefits? Will it > support a full UTF-8 character map? > > Sorry for complaining, Id so love to try the latest releases, but are > stuck with one from 10 months ago... > > Cheers, > T. > ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] list without spaces
gottlieb wrote: > dear List, > > This is a pretty basic query, I think. > I am trying to make a sample-scrambler where I can nbavigate through a > large database of samples. I'm using soundfiler to load all the samples > and tabplay~ . I named all the samples array# (array1,array2,etc) I am > trying to use list to allow me to shift the numeric value at the end of usually you don't do it like that. > the array message, but how can I get rid of the space between 'array' > and the new number? Or, is there another way to do this? > several. [makefilename array%d] will give what you asked for. with older versions of pd (<0.40) you should probably use a naming scheme like 3array in order to be able to better modularize your patch. then you could construct the tablenames dynamically either with [makefilename %darray] or with [symbol $1array(, and you get the benefit of being able to easily expand the number of slots with stuff like [slot 3] which in turn calls [table $1array]. with newer versions of pd (>=0.40) you can also use $args within the symbols (e.g. [symbol array$1( mfga.sdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] FTGL
>> Hi, I posted a question last week on why [textextruded] wasnt >> working. I >> got the answer, GEM must be compiled with FTGL. >> So why was it changed in the first place? It seemed to be running >> fine >> (or sort of) and now it aint working at all. And sadly I dont know >> how >> to compile GEM with FTGL. > > please note that [textextruded] was only introduced into Gem > because of > FTGL (the old fontrendering library used was GLTT which had no such > thing as extruded text). > > so the answer is: in order to have [textextruded] working, you must > compile Gem with FTGL; there have never been another way to get > extruded > text. > The versions I have been using has all that working. And from what your saying, this version was compiled with FTGL.: GEM: ver: 0.90 GEM: compiled: Mar 8 2006 This one is not: GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia GEM: ver: 0.91-cvs GEM: compiled: Apr 14 2007 So what your saying is that the current version of GEM is not compiled with FTGL. I guess what Im trying to get an answer to is why the current version of GEM is not compiled with FTGL? Are there any plans for doing that (very impatient I know)? >> >> Whats the reason for this grand change? Any future benefits? Will it >> support a full UTF-8 character map? > like chris has said, there has not been a grand change regarding fonts > for years. > and yes, the text-objects in current CVS support full Unicode (well > not > full: only the first 65000 or so) characters. > With regards to full character set... I did some tests a while back, with the older version (see above) which I posted on the list (without much interest). The character mapping then was a bit messed up. Importing UTF 8 format into PD is fine, but spitting it out to any text object in GEM gets the characters jumbled up (the ones outside the first 128). Also, it was not happy doing japanese, which showed up fine in the symbol atom box. The only format it mapped correctly was Windows Latin 1252 (all 256 characters - not really the extended set I was hoping for). I did extensive tests on re- formatting the fonts as well. Again, this came out with the same result - correct for 1252 only. Beats me. Could this be an OS issue? Im on OSX - whatever latest update. T. > mfga-sdr > IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] list without spaces
dear List, This is a pretty basic query, I think. I am trying to make a sample-scrambler where I can nbavigate through a large database of samples. I'm using soundfiler to load all the samples and tabplay~ . I named all the samples array# (array1,array2,etc) I am trying to use list to allow me to shift the numeric value at the end of the array message, but how can I get rid of the space between 'array' and the new number? Or, is there another way to do this? thanks BG -- Baruch Gottlieb ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM: animations II
What's you opinion about this i have found? http://tfc.duke.free.fr/old/models/md2.htm Do you think it could serve to load 3d models with integrated animations in GEM? Im anxious to start developing ^^ >From: Cypod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Javier García" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [PD] GEM: animations II >Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:25:42 -0700 > >pix_image also only gives you a planar mapping for the uvs, not as >flexiable as some other programs, but its real-time, so you don't have >to wait to renders. > >This and the animation problem can largely be fixed by cutting up your >models and rebuilding then in pd > >On 4/18/07, Javier García <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Hi, >> >>I've been looking for information about the OBJ format which Pd uses to >>import 3d models. I've found out this format doesn't support animations, >>so >>if i try to implement code to load models with animations integrated I >>should forget the OBJ format, and remake the job about loading 3d models >>with another 3d format as base. >> >>I'm newbie in Pd, so what's it your opinion? >> >>_ >>Moda para esta temporada. Ponte al día de todas las tendencias. >>http://www.msn.es/Mujer/moda/default.asp >> >> >>___ >>PD-list@iem.at mailing list >>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > > >-- >B~ >www.cypod.co.nr _ Grandes éxitos, superhéroes, imitaciones, cine y TV... http://es.msn.kiwee.com/ Lo mejor para tu móvil. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Linux - which distribution to use?
Frank Barknecht a écrit : > Hallo, > Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > >> Unfortuntaely, Pd on ubuntu isn't quite that easy to install yet. >> > > $ aptitude install puredata > > Externals are harder. > > Ciao > It would be so great if there was a repository where we could find more .pd_linux files precompiled for all architectures, and the cvs or extended set of abstractions and extensions... my one ct ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Wiimote
Mike Wozniewski a écrit : > I think that the easiest way is to use GlovePIE, and route wiimote > messages to MIDI, keypresses, etc. > > see: http://carl.kenner.googlepages.com/glovepie_download > > -Mike > > Anyone has been able to connect pd and glovepie with a virtualmidi port? I've tried with mapple driver and pd extended 0.39-RC1, pd crashes when I open it if I do use the same MIDI input port as glovepie midi output device, and pd-vanilla gives a "PortMidi: `Host error'" message ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] FTGL
timon wrote: > Hi, I posted a question last week on why [textextruded] wasnt working. I > got the answer, GEM must be compiled with FTGL. > So why was it changed in the first place? It seemed to be running fine > (or sort of) and now it aint working at all. And sadly I dont know how > to compile GEM with FTGL. please note that [textextruded] was only introduced into Gem because of FTGL (the old fontrendering library used was GLTT which had no such thing as extruded text). so the answer is: in order to have [textextruded] working, you must compile Gem with FTGL; there have never been another way to get extruded text. > > Whats the reason for this grand change? Any future benefits? Will it > support a full UTF-8 character map? like chris has said, there has not been a grand change regarding fonts for years. and yes, the text-objects in current CVS support full Unicode (well not full: only the first 65000 or so) characters. mfga-sdr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] FTGL
GEM moved to FTGL years ago. This was not a recent change at all. On 4/19/07, timon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I posted a question last week on why [textextruded] wasnt working. I got the answer, GEM must be compiled with FTGL.So why was it changed in the first place? It seemed to be running fine (or sort of) and now it aint working at all. And sadly I dont know how to compile GEM with FTGL. Whats the reason for this grand change? Any future benefits? Will it support a full UTF-8 character map? Sorry for complaining, Id so love to try the latest releases, but are stuck with one from 10 months ago... Cheers, T. BotezCo Co/Timon Botez www.botezco.com +44 (0) 798 998 5052 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Test Audio: just trying to hear anything
On 19/04/2007, at 10.21, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: >> activated >> go to "Test Audio and Midi" >> I select "-40" and i >> dont hear >> anything... >> > > this might sound trivial, but: > try selecting "-20", probably -40 is just to low for your > soundcard/setting Or maybe see if the numbers in the numberboxes below - where it says "audio input (rms db) - are more then 0 anywhere. That would be like seeing if there is any sound that Andy talked about. I'm not expert, just a debug hint.. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] font size survey - please try it on your machine!
On 19/04/2007, at 3.28, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Actually, the patch itself would be better than a screenshot. I want to gather all the results into one patch. Ok. I've added to the 1st and 3ed test for Mac OS X extended-test7. And altered the size in the 2nd test for Mac OS X extended-RC1 and vanilla-0.40-2. And added the instructions to a subpatch. Attached. font-test-19-05-07.pd Description: Binary data ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] FTGL
Hi, I posted a question last week on why [textextruded] wasnt working. I got the answer, GEM must be compiled with FTGL. So why was it changed in the first place? It seemed to be running fine (or sort of) and now it aint working at all. And sadly I dont know how to compile GEM with FTGL. Whats the reason for this grand change? Any future benefits? Will it support a full UTF-8 character map? Sorry for complaining, Id so love to try the latest releases, but are stuck with one from 10 months ago... Cheers, T. BotezCo Co/Timon Botez www.botezco.com +44 (0) 798 998 5052 ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Test Audio: just trying to hear anything
Javier García wrote: > Frank Barknecht wrote: > >> I'm very sure, that ALSA is installed, otherwise you wouldn't have >> sound at all. For whatever reason, on some systems the kernel modules >> for the ALSA midi subsystem aren't properly loaded, this will lead to >> this error. You can fix this on a running system by "sudo modprobe >> snd-seq" > > Thanks, now there isnt any error message about alsa but i still dont hear > anything... > > I will repeat what i do. This my first step: > > I open Pd >> I push "compute audio" >> Media >> I found "default MIDI" hmm, you are basically not interested in MIDI (fixing this is just a side-product of your problem) but in AUDIO. as long as you have neiter "OSS" nor "ALSA" nor "JACK" activated (note: not all 3 options might be present on your system; and "ALSA" is NOT the same as "ALSA-MIDI") you will not hear anything. ALSA-MIDI is really just the seq-subsystem of alsa (for sharing midi data); it is definitely _not_ ALSA+MIDI otoh, ALSA is the audio-subsytem of alsa; you can well run audio over oss (or jack) and midi over alsa. > activated >> go to "Test Audio and Midi" >> I select "-40" and i dont hear > anything... > this might sound trivial, but: try selecting "-20", probably -40 is just to low for your soundcard/setting fma.dr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM: animations II
Javier García wrote: > Hi, > > I've been looking for information about the OBJ format which Pd uses to > import 3d models. I've found out this format doesn't support animations, so > if i try to implement code to load models with animations integrated I > should forget the OBJ format, and remake the job about loading 3d models > with another 3d format as base. Hmm, that doesn't sound right. What kind of animations? If you're animating 3D objects, normally you're talking about skeletal animations - in which case, the usual way to do things is to have the model defined in one file (the .obj file), and another file defining the skeleton and the animation keyframes. -- Damian Stewart +64 27 305 4107 f r e y live music with machines http://www.frey.co.nz http://www.myspace.com/freyed ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Test Audio: just trying to hear anything
Do other applications make sound? Is the card muted by Alsamixer? Check the Alsamixer app and see. d. Javier García wrote: > Frank Barknecht wrote: > >> I'm very sure, that ALSA is installed, otherwise you wouldn't have >> sound at all. For whatever reason, on some systems the kernel modules >> for the ALSA midi subsystem aren't properly loaded, this will lead to >> this error. You can fix this on a running system by "sudo modprobe >> snd-seq" > > Thanks, now there isnt any error message about alsa but i still dont hear > anything... > > I will repeat what i do. This my first step: > > I open Pd >> I push "compute audio" >> Media >> I found "default MIDI" > activated >> go to "Test Audio and Midi" >> I select "-40" and i dont hear > anything... > > > > > > > >> From: Frank Barknecht <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: pd-list@iem.at >> Subject: Re: [PD] Test Audio: just trying to hear anything >> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 09:26:42 +0200 >> >> Hallo, >> Javier García hat gesagt: // Javier García wrote: >> >>> One thing more: when i open Pd, i push over the "compute audio" button >> (it >>> becomes purple color). I open "Media" and i find "default-MIDI" in >> purple. >>> If i select "ALSA-MIDI" the console shows this: >>> >>> "ALSA lib seq_hw.c:457:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No >> such >>> file or directory >>> Pd: system call timed out" >>> >>> I have supposed ALSA it not installed so I have write this: >> I'm very sure, that ALSA is installed, otherwise you wouldn't have >> sound at all. For whatever reason, on some systems the kernel modules >> for the ALSA midi subsystem aren't properly loaded, this will lead to >> this error. You can fix this on a running system by "sudo modprobe >> snd-seq" and make it permanent by adding a line "snd-seq" to the file >> "/etc/modules" to make the sequencer module load automatically after a >> reboot on Debian-based systems (like Ubuntu etc.) >> >> Ciao >> -- >> Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ >> >> ___ >> PD-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > _ > Acepta el reto MSN Premium: Correos más divertidos con fotos y textos > increíbles en MSN Premium. Descárgalo y pruébalo 2 meses gratis. > http://join.msn.com?XAPID=1697&DI=1055&HL=Footer_mailsenviados_correosmasdivertidos > > > ___ > PD-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 37: "Convert a melodic element into a rhythmic element" ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Linux - which distribution to use?
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Unfortuntaely, Pd on ubuntu isn't quite that easy to install yet. $ aptitude install puredata Externals are harder. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] can't run Gem in Fedora with generic graphics (no GLX shader)?
Miller Puckette wrote: >> .hc >> > I agree with Hans-Christohpe. I finally got Gem running on my machine simply > by deleting all the "manips" starting with glsl (just deleted the files and > recompiled). The easiest thing would be just adding a configure switch, > but it might be smarter to spin off code that has non-free dependencies into > one or more separate libs. well, i have had a hard time with configure switches: i once added the disable-NV and disable-ARB switches, which just delayed the problem till the advent of the glsl-shaders; i don't think a configure switch for any possible driver is doable so i ended up providing a very generic configure switch "--with-glversion" which should allow you to enforce that no calls from openGL-specs higher than the given version number are used. e.g. "--with-glversion=1.5" should disable all openGL-2.0 (and up) calls, which effectively also disables the glsl-stuff. in my experience, this works pretty well. chris has proposed this already for you, have you tried it and did it not work? deleting files from the canonical source is definitely not the way to go (on the long run), mfga.sdr IOhannes does anyone know (or rather: is there) a way to dynamically link objects together and then strip all unused dependencies? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
