Re: [PD] Zero delay feedback, with settable send?

2007-05-11 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
Kim Taylor hat gesagt: // Kim Taylor wrote:

 I have had success using throw~ and catch~, as the destination bus can
 be changed by setting throw~, BUT- throw and catch use a minimum block
 size of 64.

Hm? They don't, unless you do feedbacks, but then everyhting~ in Pd
has a delay of one block. 

See http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/techniques/latest/book-html/node120.html
and http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/techniques/latest/book-html/node121.html

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Re: [PD] Highlight modified abstraction instances with red

2007-05-11 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 20:42 -0700, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote:
 Just wanted to post an idea...
 It would be great if Pd highligted modified abstractions in red in
 their parent patch (that is, the one pixel bounding box and text.
 When I've modified one of a bunch of abstractions in a parent and
 close it without saving, I have to open each one to see if it was the
 one I modified.

you could easily come around this by letting the window of the instance
of your abstraction open, that you have modified. when testing is
finished and you decide to save changes, you know which one to save. 
however, i like the idea as well. a visual feedback in the parent patch
would be nice.

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Re: [PD] Connection with sensors - new devices?

2007-05-11 Thread Koray Tahiroglu
This firmware reads 2 ultrasound sensors at the same time, I guess it  
might read more with a little adjustment in firmware. Firmata  
Ultrasound firmware will be really great, I remember we had this  
discussion earlier, and there was some sort of problem to code Pulse  
in Pd_firmware.pde so that we could read ultrasound sensors through  
[arduino] in PD. Looking forward to test this library!!!


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On May 11, 2007, at 1:54 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:



Does this firmware handle multiple ultrasound sensors?  If so, it  
would awesome to make a Firmata Ultrasound firmware.  I just  
started making the Firmata protocol into a library so that people  
can write more firmwares and still use the same objects in the host  
software.  A multiple ultrasound sensor would be a great first test  
of this library, since it would only need to input data.


.hc

On May 10, 2007, at 5:27 PM, Koray Tahiroglu wrote:


Hello Kyle,

I am glad that those patches worked and helped you out with your  
project. I guess big thanks goes to Hans for them, cos during that  
time, I just modified his existing multi-sensor patches and  
developed them further to use in my project.


Koray.



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On May 10, 2007, at 11:38 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:


Thanks so much Koray, it works great!

I see you used the same Arduino code for the sensor as I had found,
and your Pd patch is very well-written and well-commented.

I appreciate this, because I did not want to try coding
microsecond-level events in Pd by porting the Arduino code and using
firmata, and I didn't want to use the SimpleMessaging library  
either.

This helps us out a TON!

~Kyle

On 5/8/07, Koray Tahiroglu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello Kyle,

Here I attach .pde files for arduino to read ultrasound sensors  
(they might
have already there in the arduino sketchbook already, but just  
sending to be
sure) and also modified Hans pd patches for arduino-pd  
communication. I

didn't test them lately, but they used to be working fine.

best,

Koray.





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tel: +358 50 939 02 33 ( in Finland only)
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On May 8, 2007, at 5:48 AM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:

Hi Koray~

I am working on a group project that involves Arduino and the  
parallax
PING ultrasonic sensors. Would you be willing to share your Pd  
patches

regarding this usage, as indicated in this email?

Thanks in advance!

~Kyle

On 12/22/05, Koray Tahiroglu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hello Hans,

I made couple of test patches just to see the range and the  
stability

of the values that I receive from sensors. At the moment, I am
testing ultrasound sensor and also self made solar panel board
sensor. After this weekend I will begin to construct my final  
patches

for a gig that will be on 14th of January. I can upload the patches
on PD site. During our Arduino+PD workshop two weeks ago, we
basically started to develop your multi-sensor patch, which  
actually

David had changed couple of things during a previous workshop in
Vancouver. All in all i think it is such a nice idea to make  
easy-to-
use framework for sensor boxes. Especially most of the Mac OS X  
users

have problems with comport communication.

Koray.

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Hameentie 135C 00560 Helsinki Finland
http://mlab.uiah.fi/~korayt/
http://purenoise.uiah.fi:8000/
tel: +358 40 754 8449
fax: +358 9 75630 555


On Dec 21, 2005, at 9:32 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


 Do you have an patches that you are willing to share?  I want to
 see how people are using various boards with Pd.

 I will be working a lot with sensor boards in the coming months,
 including the Arduino, MultIO, and STEIM's junXionbox.   
Basically,
 I want to make an easy-to-use framework like the [hid] toolkit  
for
 sensor boxes.  So basically, I'll be making high-level  
abstractions

 to interface these boxes which output data in a floating point
 range of 0-1.  That means you can then use all of the mapping
 objects that I wrote for the [hid] toolkit.  Actually, I think  
the

 grand plan will be to make a separate library of mapping objects,
 and then librariess for HIDs, sensor boxes, etc.

 .hc

 On Dec 20, 2005, at 2:10 PM, Koray Tahiroglu wrote:


 I've been using arduino with PD heavily since the beginning of
 December, I am happy with the ready sensor connections as  
well as

 self made sensors. And Arduino is an open source microcontroller
 hardware, http://www.arduino.cc/

 cheers,
 Koray.


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Re: [PD] Highlight modified abstraction instances with red

2007-05-11 Thread Luke Iannini (pd)
Yes; this suggestion is for when I close the window inadvertently : )

On 5/11/07, Roman Haefeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 20:42 -0700, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote:
  Just wanted to post an idea...
  It would be great if Pd highligted modified abstractions in red in
  their parent patch (that is, the one pixel bounding box and text.
  When I've modified one of a bunch of abstractions in a parent and
  close it without saving, I have to open each one to see if it was the
  one I modified.

 you could easily come around this by letting the window of the instance
 of your abstraction open, that you have modified. when testing is
 finished and you decide to save changes, you know which one to save.
 however, i like the idea as well. a visual feedback in the parent patch
 would be nice.

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Re: [PD] Connection with sensors - new devices?

2007-05-11 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Yes, it seems better to code these microsecond pulses in the firmware
rather than letting Pd control this directly. Maybe at audio signal
rate this would be more satisfactory, I am not well-versed in this.

Our plan is to use 6 sensors, so we will attempt to modify the
existing ultrasound firmware to this end. I see no reason why it would
not work!

~Kyle

On 5/11/07, Koray Tahiroglu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This firmware reads 2 ultrasound sensors at the same time, I guess it might
 read more with a little adjustment in firmware. Firmata Ultrasound firmware
 will be really great, I remember we had this discussion earlier, and there
 was some sort of problem to code Pulse in Pd_firmware.pde so that we could
 read ultrasound sensors through [arduino] in PD. Looking forward to test
 this library!!!

 Koray.




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 Media Lab,UIAH
 http://mlab.uiah.fi/~korayt/
 tel: +358 50 939 02 33 ( in Finland only)
 tel: +90 533 712 8245






 On May 11, 2007, at 1:54 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


 Does this firmware handle multiple ultrasound sensors?  If so, it would
 awesome to make a Firmata Ultrasound firmware.  I just started making the
 Firmata protocol into a library so that people can write more firmwares and
 still use the same objects in the host software.  A multiple ultrasound
 sensor would be a great first test of this library, since it would only need
 to input data.

 .hc

 On May 10, 2007, at 5:27 PM, Koray Tahiroglu wrote:
 Hello Kyle,

 I am glad that those patches worked and helped you out with your project. I
 guess big thanks goes to Hans for them, cos during that time, I just
 modified his existing multi-sensor patches and developed them further to use
 in my project.

 Koray.




 -
 M.Koray Tahiroglu
 Media Lab,UIAH
 http://mlab.uiah.fi/~korayt/
 tel: +358 50 939 02 33 ( in Finland only)
 tel: +90 533 712 8245






 On May 10, 2007, at 11:38 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:

 Thanks so much Koray, it works great!

 I see you used the same Arduino code for the sensor as I had found,
 and your Pd patch is very well-written and well-commented.

 I appreciate this, because I did not want to try coding
 microsecond-level events in Pd by porting the Arduino code and using
 firmata, and I didn't want to use the SimpleMessaging library either.
 This helps us out a TON!

 ~Kyle

 On 5/8/07, Koray Tahiroglu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Kyle,

 Here I attach .pde files for arduino to read ultrasound sensors (they might
 have already there in the arduino sketchbook already, but just sending to be
 sure) and also modified Hans pd patches for arduino-pd communication. I
 didn't test them lately, but they used to be working fine.

 best,

 Koray.





 -
 M.Koray Tahiroglu
 Media Lab,UIAH
 http://mlab.uiah.fi/~korayt/
 tel: +358 50 939 02 33 ( in Finland only)
 tel: +90 533 712 8245






 On May 8, 2007, at 5:48 AM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:

 Hi Koray~

 I am working on a group project that involves Arduino and the parallax
 PING ultrasonic sensors. Would you be willing to share your Pd patches
 regarding this usage, as indicated in this email?

 Thanks in advance!

 ~Kyle

 On 12/22/05, Koray Tahiroglu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hello Hans,

 I made couple of test patches just to see the range and the stability
 of the values that I receive from sensors. At the moment, I am
 testing ultrasound sensor and also self made solar panel board
 sensor. After this weekend I will begin to construct my final patches
 for a gig that will be on 14th of January. I can upload the patches
 on PD site. During our Arduino+PD workshop two weeks ago, we
 basically started to develop your multi-sensor patch, which actually
 David had changed couple of things during a previous workshop in
 Vancouver. All in all i think it is such a nice idea to make easy-to-
 use framework for sensor boxes. Especially most of the Mac OS X users
 have problems with comport communication.

 Koray.

 -
 M.Koray Tahiroglu
 Media Lab,
 University of Art and Design Helsinki, TaiK
 Hameentie 135C 00560 Helsinki Finland
 http://mlab.uiah.fi/~korayt/
 http://purenoise.uiah.fi:8000/
 tel: +358 40 754 8449
 fax: +358 9 75630 555


 On Dec 21, 2005, at 9:32 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

 
  Do you have an patches that you are willing to share?  I want to
  see how people are using various boards with Pd.
 
  I will be working a lot with sensor boards in the coming months,
  including the Arduino, MultIO, and STEIM's junXionbox.  Basically,
  I want to make an easy-to-use framework like the [hid] toolkit for
  sensor boxes.  So basically, I'll be making high-level abstractions
  to interface these boxes which output data in a floating point
  range of 0-1.  That means you can then use all of the mapping
  objects that I wrote for the [hid] toolkit.  Actually, I think the
  grand plan will be to make a separate 

Re: [PD] Zero delay feedback, with settable send?

2007-05-11 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo,
Kim Taylor hat gesagt: // Kim Taylor wrote:

  I have had success using throw~ and catch~, as the destination bus can
  be changed by setting throw~, BUT- throw and catch use a minimum block
  size of 64.
 
 Hm? They don't, unless you do feedbacks, but then everyhting~ in Pd
 has a delay of one block.
 
 How true, I must have overlooked this...

It's one of the tricky things to get right in Pd. ;) 

If you really want to make sure not to pick up any unwanted delays you
need to use the double-subpatch technique described in Miller's book,
as the block-delay of direct connections depends on the order in which
you made the connections, and that's to fragile: editing can change
the order without you noticing it.

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Re: [PD] GEM mapping units to pixels

2007-05-11 Thread cyrille henry
hello,

i think you should also move the camera position.

if you use this : 
 dimen 400 300
 perspect 0 400 0 300 1 20
then you should also use somthing like this : 
view 200 150 1000

moving the camera far from the point you look at should reduce distortion.

cyrille

altern a écrit :
 hi
 
 I am trying to map GEM units to pixels so that i can position some
 videos in the GEM window using pixels values. For this I understand that
 i must match the projection values with the window size. So i am doing
 
 dimen 400 300
 perspect 0 400 0 300 1 20
 
 and i render all objects at z position 1
 
 translateXYZ 100 100 1
 
 However I am getting a weird result, the units are far smaller that
 pixels, so to move a video 100px in the x i need to change it x position
 by 300 units or something like this. So I am not sure about what i am
 doing wrong, I am familiar with OpenGL but i never played too much with
 GEM before so I am still getting into it.
 
 Another small issue is that I would also like to reverse the Y so that
 upper left is 0,0 and bottom left would be 0,200 for example, not sure
 about how to change this. I guess it is to do with the gemwin settings
 but i dont get it right.
 
 thanks
 
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[PD] GEM mapping units to pixels

2007-05-11 Thread altern
hi

I am trying to map GEM units to pixels so that i can position some
videos in the GEM window using pixels values. For this I understand that
i must match the projection values with the window size. So i am doing

dimen 400 300
perspect 0 400 0 300 1 20

and i render all objects at z position 1

translateXYZ 100 100 1

However I am getting a weird result, the units are far smaller that
pixels, so to move a video 100px in the x i need to change it x position
by 300 units or something like this. So I am not sure about what i am
doing wrong, I am familiar with OpenGL but i never played too much with
GEM before so I am still getting into it.

Another small issue is that I would also like to reverse the Y so that
upper left is 0,0 and bottom left would be 0,200 for example, not sure
about how to change this. I guess it is to do with the gemwin settings
but i dont get it right.

thanks

enrike


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Re: [PD] Zero delay feedback, with settable send?

2007-05-11 Thread Kim Taylor
  I have had success using throw~ and catch~, as the destination bus can
  be changed by setting throw~, BUT- throw and catch use a minimum block
  size of 64.

 Hm? They don't, unless you do feedbacks, but then everyhting~ in Pd
 has a delay of one block.

How true, I must have overlooked this...
Fantastic news
Thanks

K

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Re: [PD] Zero delay feedback, with settable send?

2007-05-11 Thread Georg Holzmann

Hallo!


If you really want to make sure not to pick up any unwanted delays you
need to use the double-subpatch technique described in Miller's book,
as the block-delay of direct connections depends on the order in which
you made the connections, and that's to fragile: editing can change
the order without you noticing it.


So you need order forcing (see attached patch).
You can get delays down to 1 sample with that method AFAIK.

LG
Georg
#N canvas 546 262 448 422 10;
#X obj 46 181 inlet~ signal;
#X obj 146 307 sig~;
#X obj 46 363 outlet~;
#N canvas 0 0 450 212 delay-writer 0;
#X obj 22 27 inlet~;
#X obj 52 87 delwrite~ \$0-delline1 2000;
#X obj 116 113 delwrite~ \$0-delline2 2000;
#X obj 22 159 outlet~;
#X connect 0 0 1 0;
#X connect 0 0 2 0;
#X connect 0 0 3 0;
#X restore 46 227 pd delay-writer;
#N canvas 0 0 450 300 delay-reader 0;
#X obj 38 165 vd~ \$0-delline1;
#X obj 38 191 outlet~;
#X obj 38 139 inlet~;
#X obj 35 39 inlet~;
#X text 34 61 dummy;
#X text 34 75 (to force execution order !);
#X connect 0 0 1 0;
#X connect 2 0 0 0;
#X restore 46 335 pd delay-reader;
#X text 55 266 - needed for right execution order !;
#X obj 180 181 inlet delay;
#X text 15 20 exact-delay~;
#X text 15 90 This patch is able to get a delay down to 1 sample because
of execution order forcing !;
#X text 15 48 in1: the signal;
#X text 15 62 in2: delay time in ms;
#X text 255 372 Georg Holzmann \, 2007;
#X connect 0 0 3 0;
#X connect 1 0 4 1;
#X connect 3 0 4 0;
#X connect 4 0 2 0;
#X connect 6 0 1 0;
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[PD] pix_record inverting image

2007-05-11 Thread Tim Boykett


Hi all,

  I am using pix_snap and pix_record to get a series of images
with decoration into a video file. This is (surprisingly enough!)
working already, but with one interesting feature: the recorded
videos are vertically inverted! top-bottom exchange...

Hmm, any ideas what that might mean? I am using yesterday's
build for OSX PPC from .hc. The problem seems to lie with
pix_snap: if I connect the input pix_video straight to pix_record,
then it goes through right, gets recorded right, all is well.

  I build a capture with pix_snap.
If I look at the texture coming out of pix_snap by pix_texture-ing it
onto a rectangle, then it looks right.
It just gets turned upside down when it gets recorded.

Any ideas would be great. No huge loss, I am sure it a simple
post-processing thing to make it look right, but I would like
to know what is going wrong

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Re: [PD] OT - Pd on Leno

2007-05-11 Thread dafydd hughes
Hey Y'all

Thanks for the good wishes.

Yeah - it's a pretty good gig.  I'm feeling kinda lucky to be using Pd
on this gig - so far it's just a couple of synths and some effects,
but as time goes by I'm pretty sure I'll be able to start stretching a
bit (I'm still pretty new to the band).

Kyle: the band is all from Toronto, although lots of the folks on the
records are from Berlin and Paris.  And I gotta say, Berlin is wicked
cool.  I'm not from there yet, but soon...

If anybody notices we're playing in your town, please email me - I'd
love to hook up, and we generally have a couple of spots each on the
guest list.

Conan O'Brien on June 12!  Damn.

cheers
dafydd

On 5/9/07, Kyle Klipowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yeah man! I love Feist! I hope to join the Berlin diaspora myself
 soon. do you live there?

 ~Kyle

 On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks for sharing!
 
  Congrats Dafydd! Feisty!
 
  I didn't know you played with Feist - great stuff and would seem to me a
  very suitable outlet for you to do more audio experimentation while
  still in a pop format.
 
  Best,
  p
 
    Original Message 
   Subject: Re: [PD] OT - Pd on Leno
   From: Kevin McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date: Wed, May 09, 2007 3:00 pm
   To: Dafydd Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED],  PD-list@iem.at
  
   http://youtube.com/watch?v=rlxrjIMNIeg
  
   Excellent, band sounded great!  I can't wait to see you guys in Ohio.  So
   you're the one at the piano with the midi controller?  Looking smooth,
   Dafydd!
  
   Congrats again,
   Kevin
  
   On 5/8/07, Dafydd Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Hi folks
   
If you've got nothing better to do this evening, the band I'm touring
with is playing on the Tonight Show, and I'm using Pd for about 8 bars
of a mellotron flute sample.  Not nearly as impressive as Bjork's rig,
but what the hey, it's Pd in the pop world:)
   
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Re: [PD] pix_record inverting image

2007-05-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Tim Boykett wrote:
 
   I build a capture with pix_snap.
 If I look at the texture coming out of pix_snap by pix_texture-ing it
 onto a rectangle, then it looks right.
 It just gets turned upside down when it gets recorded.
 
 Any ideas would be great. No huge loss, I am sure it a simple
 post-processing thing to make it look right, but I would like
 to know what is going wrong

well, openGL originates the image at the bottom-left corner;
pixel-formats differ about this, some have the origin in bottom-left,
others in top-left.
for optimization-reasons, Gem only flags the latter images as upside
down and displays them correctly (with special code in [pix_texture]).

obviously there is no corresponding code in [pix_record]...

as a quick hack you can either flip the pixes after recording (with your
favourite editor), or before recording with [pix_flip]


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[PD] pix_multiblob cpu usage

2007-05-11 Thread nosehair911
I made a 400x300 motion JPEG-a movie 15 fps with 5 solid blue circles moving on 
a black background 
to test pix_mutiblob. I open it up with pix_film, flip it with pix_flip and 
send it to pix_multiblob.  I suddenly 
notices PD getting very, very slow.  When I look at the cpu usage in activity 
monitor (if you can believe 
activity monitor) I get 100-104% cpu usage.  I cant do anything else in PD 
because PD gets so slow.  I 
am using a dual 2Ghz G5 with ATI Radeon 9800 XT and 3GB of internal memory.  Is 
this normal? What 
can I do to lower cpu usage?  What else can I use within Gem to get the same 
results? I eventually want 
to be able to track 20-30 objects but It looks like it would be imposible at 
this rate.
Thanks,
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[PD] converting (hebrew) text to numerical values?

2007-05-11 Thread Cyrill
Hi list

I am willing to set up a patch that could convert letters to numerical values, 
so i could use
converted text to send data to other patches (and then produce sound). My 
problem is that i want
to work with hebrew, and i want pd to be able to differenciate between 
consonants and vowels, and
maybe even to be able to recognize roots within the word. As I am quite a 
novice concerning pd, I
have no clue about the most efficient way to convert letters into values, and i 
dont even know if
it is possible within pd?

Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Shalom

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Re: [PD] Zero delay feedback, with settable send?

2007-05-11 Thread Kim Taylor
Thanks for this, its cleared things up. Is there any purpose in the
$0-delline2 delay line though?

K

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Re: [PD] converting (hebrew) text to numerical values?

2007-05-11 Thread Bryan Jurish
morning Cyrill,

Well, the most elegant way to convert back and forth between numerical
(ASCII-like) values and text is Martin Peach's string patch to the pd
sources (search the PD-dev archives for string type for pd).  If you
don't feel like going that deep, you can use my [any2string] and
[string2any] externals (in CVS, or from me at
www.ling.uni-potsdam.de/~moocow/projects/pd).  Alternatively, you could
split symbols into single characters using [symbol2list] from zexy, and
then map these to numbers however you want (e.g. with [index] from zexy,
PDContainer, pool, [gfsm_alphabet] from gfsm, etc.)  You can do
character classification (and even substring classification) with python
(in which case you don't really need the string or indexing stuff), or
with a simple finite state transducer (gfsm again), although if you're
just interested in differentiating between consonants  vowels, you're
probably better off just using [route] here...

marmosets,
Bryan

On 2007-05-11 21:33:29, Cyrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] appears to have written:
 Hi list
 
 I am willing to set up a patch that could convert letters to numerical 
 values, so i could use
 converted text to send data to other patches (and then produce sound). My 
 problem is that i want
 to work with hebrew, and i want pd to be able to differenciate between 
 consonants and vowels, and
 maybe even to be able to recognize roots within the word. As I am quite a 
 novice concerning pd, I
 have no clue about the most efficient way to convert letters into values, and 
 i dont even know if
 it is possible within pd?
 
 Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
 
 Shalom
 
 Cyrill

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Re: [PD] Zero delay feedback, with settable send?

2007-05-11 Thread Kim Taylor
Actually, sorry- I thought I understood this but I've got a problem
with this method

Considering the patch posted by Georg Holzmann (the same principle as
http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/techniques/latest/book-html/node121.html)-
Surely if the block size is default 64 samples, the delwrite atom will
take at least 64 samples to write to the delay line... So the delread
(next in sequence) cannot read out the contents of the delay line
until AFTER this has happened?
I don't understand how a minimum delay of 1 sample can be achieved
(although I admit I have made it work in practice!!!)

Kim

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